This is so good! I had no idea that the Fatimids started off by building a base of power in northwest Africa, and only later usurped the Abbasids in Egypt.
The Rashidun Caliphate: the amazing prequel The Umayyad Caliphate: the award winning Series The Abbasids: the villain spinoff series that was also successful The Fatimids: The Sequel to the Umayyads The Seljuks: the Sequel to the Villains spinoff Al-Andalus: the big yet irrelevant spinoff The Ottomans: the fanfic that became cannon The Arab Union: Studio’s last attempt at a cash grab that failed horribly
Hikma History and you have gained a new subscriber. Your content is amazing. Non-biased,informational,actual worth watching it’s everything a channel should be
Thanks a lot for the video sir. It is very unfortunate that people neglect the Fatimids and their contribution to Islam as a whole. The Fatimid era was also a great era for learning the neo-platonism introduced by the great Fatimid scholar Qazi Noman and Nasir Khusrow and others. It was an era of Islamic conversions and debate on the Fatmid Ideology that the historian Frahad Daftary calls a Ismaili era. And yes these Dais carrying the message of the Imams the so called Dawah Hadiyyah reached us my forefathers in Sindh and Gujarat. Multan was a bastain of Isamili Islam the Tibetans in their description of Islam they highlight all Isamili doctrines like Natiq,etc. making it clear that the Ismailis have a lot of contruibution to early Islam in the Sub continent. Especially my love to Imam Muizz a great poet and a scholar himself. I think you missed Imam Mustansir the great Fatimid Imam before the schism of the Nizaris and Mustallis. But thanks again. Today on the day of Ashura when our hearts cry out on the demise of our Imam Allah's blessing be on him, I pray of the rest of humankind and people like you who give their precious time and spread knowledge and help God himself acting as AnsarAllah may God increase our knowledge. And yes I am not a shia not a sunni I am an Indian very nativists but have a soft corner for the Imams whether Zaydi, Ismaili and also the Rashidun Caliphs and also the Prophet Zarathustra.
@@HikmaHistory Brother, I don’t want to create further divide between us Muslims, as there is already quite a bit. But what percentage in present era is of Shia and Sunni population wise worldwide ? Since you’re a student of Islamic history and surely follow recent times as well. I hope us Muslims unite and break the chains of firqa wariyat. I’m from Sindh and now understand why Multan has so many saints there.
You do not mention the Fatimid contribution to learning as it was the Golden era.who contributed to scientific research ( Ibn Sina , al-Qadi al-Nu‘man, Hamid al-Din al-Kirmani, al-Mu’ayyad fi’l-Din al-Shirazi and Nasir-i Khusraw, and scientists such as Ibn al-Haytham.. Kindly also reference Fatimid intellectual traditions.
What's funny is originally this video was meant to be about the Fatimid Golden Age where I would've spoken about cultural and intellectual progress! In Pt 2, I'll definitely mention it briefly.
@@Staerkebombe No, it was other way around actually, they all gave their true allegiance to Fatemid Imaams (Ismailis), rest everything was part of al-taqia. 🇮🇳
Nicely done! I was reading about the origins of the Nizaris a few weeks ago which brought me to Fatimids, and I was surprised how little I knew about them, yet how interesting they were. I await the next installment eagerly...
@@zulfiquarabbas9270 The Great Dai-al-Mutlaq Huzurala Aliqadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula (TUS) is the legitimate & truthful successor of the Ahl-ul-Bait (SA) & their great Fatimid Heritage. ❤🇮🇳❤
In terms of alternate history, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Abu Yazid succeeded in his revolt against the Fatimids, especially considering that his branch of Ibadism, the Nukkarites, didn't believe in establishing an imamate, but rather in a more horizontal form of rule, similar to a parlamentary republic.
Haha dude this was super difficult to research. A lot of the material out there falls in to these two unhelpful categories: anti-Shia Sunni rhetoric; pro-Fatimid (Ismaili) literature. Not looking forward to making the second part of this one...
@@HikmaHistory thats actually one of the big reasons why its soo difficult for me to learn about these times. Bias in academic sources for some agenda is abhorrent.
@@Brahmdagh bruh im algerian i speak fluent arabic , khalif in the littiral means the one that comes after the other one "succesor" and the khalifate is the whole number of succesors that passed decending from the same family*
Should have mentioned that Al-Hakim was most likely assassinated on the orders of his sister Sitt al-Mulk, who hated him because her her mother was christian and his brutal crackdowns on other faiths (including demolishing the holy sepulcher), she became pretty much the defacto ruler of the fatimids after his death as she was regent to her nephew, Really interesting figure Also ironically she cracked down hard on the Druze because they thought Al-Hakim was more divine than any of the other fatimid rulers
One thing you forgot to mention is how al-Muiz followed tradition by executing Jawhar after all the good he has done. I can never understand how these megalomaniacs think. If you don't reward your greatest allies and keep them close how will you be able to eventually delegate your power to trustworthy individuals? Every collapse of a nation can be traced to the same thing. A ruler killing his friends for fear of betrayal. Its sad and pathetic. Great video by the way. Keep it up
@@HikmaHistory Hmm that's what I was taught in school. He feared his overwhelming popularity with the Egyptian populace and 'dealt' with him. Evidence to that he never appears again in historical records
@@NTLuck " I can never understand how these megalomaniacs think " " He feared his overwhelming popularity with the Egyptian populace " you answered yourself :3
Hmm, we were taught he died of natural death. We should question our school teachings as well. Mostly they are funded to support one narrative over another.
I tell you something funny. I watched over 400 history documentaries on youtube to quell my thirst. The channels I watch were drained, so I thought myself about topics that would interest me. I entered "Fatimids" and then "Saladin" and found nothing appealing. Your videos did not show up! I found you soon after by some other means (forgot how exactly). And I'm happy about that, your channel is a precious addition to the existing ones 👍🏽
he is trying to say that sunnis accept the first 3 khalifas and the shia do not accept the first 3.... of course everyone accepts ali radiallahu anh as the 4th khalifa. i know his statement at 1:30 sounds very misleading
Oh snap, totally went over my head that it could be misinterpreted like that. I meant that they accept all 4 as opposed to Shia's who reject the first 3.
@@HikmaHistory Even The Zaydis doesn't necessarily reject the First 3 Caliphs either, while a lot of Ismai'li discourses with Sunnis happens more often than with Twelver Shi'as at times There's certain nuances of what happens in reality
In Ali Sallabi’s book about Saladin, he briefly talks about ubaydullah al-Mahdi and his rise, but the author claims in the book that the Fatimid caliph was secretly a Jew who lied and deceived everyone into believing him that he was a descendant of Fatima. Tbh I think this theory is too hard to believe. What’s your opinion on this?
Hikma History the source I found at the back of the book is called al-maqdisi quoted in: Sayyid, Tareekh Misr al-islamiyya p.70 and the second source is al-maqsidi, volume 2, pp.76 And I made a mistake before, the author claimed they were of Jewish or magian descent instead of the prophet’s family
@@mmmhhhh6305 Ali then Hussan then Hussain then Zain al Abdin- then mhd baqar then jafar Sadiq then Ismail then mhd bin Ismail then wafi Ahmed then taqi mhd then razin Abdullah then mhd Mehdi, he was the right descendant of prophet Mohammed, in ismailies only ahl bait and direct son or grand son can become an Imam and it's impossible for a jew to proclaim as imam, nawozbilah
@@syedmuhammadfaheem8662The Kutuma Berber tribes of Algerian origin (Petite Kabylie and Constantine regions) were the mainstay of the Fatimid empire, representing the army elite. The movement began in Algeria around 902, when the Kutuma Berbers converted to Shiism, and Ikjan city🇩🇿 became their stronghold to conquer the Sunni Aglabids of Tunis. In 909, they destroyed the Aglabids, then set about freeing Ubaid and bringing him to power, Ubaid the "mahdi", in order to found a caliphate together. It was thanks to them that the Fatimids were able to exist, playing such crucial roles as : - the liberation of Ubayd from Sijilmassa prison in Morocco . - or when they saved the Fatimid caliphate, which was hanging by a thread during Abu Yazid's revolt! - Not to mention the raids in Italy and the conquest of Sicily, the conquest of the Maghreb, Egypt and the Hedjaz, then the countries of the Levant. - Repressions against Al-Hasan al-A'sam and the Quarmati tribe ...
The shura for selection of abubkr and umar was not unanimous, they Forcefully took the seat. And went against the order of Allahج and the prophet, to have Aliس as his successor
@@Menes3150 i mean yeah but that's after conquering Egypt, but before that the capital was al mahdia in tunisia and even after conquering Egypt for brief time the capital remained in tunisia
Considering Muhammad and Ali are purely fictional, I wonder if the family of the prophet really means the royal Umayyad line. Since they fled west when the Abbasids took over, the Shia movement should have started in the west, and indeed it did, with the Fatimids. I am going to speculate that “Ali” is a memory of Abd-Al-Malik. The Abbasids knew there was an Ali in popular myth, and since he was an Umayyad, they needed to kill off the character’s line. So the Abbasids likely inserted stories in the Sira to make sure Ali’s line was dead. But the western Umayyads wanted to keep the legitimacy of Abd-Al-Malik alive, and so became Shia.
Imam Mahdi the imam of Ismaili Muslim and founder of Fatimid empire. Proud to be Ismaili Muslim and following the present imam of time. Shah Karim al husaini hazir imam
You forgot to mention that Al-Mahdi conquered the Ibadi Rustamid Imamate in Algeria and the remanents of the Iddrissid Kingdom in Morocco. Everyone overlooks those states.
Do you think the Fatimids were actual descendants of the prophet Muhammed? Or were they just some natives who claimed to be descendants of him for political power? Or were they Arabs who migrated there and claimed to be descendants of the prophet? I really don't know, what do you think #Hikma_History?
Probably impossible to confirm but I feel fairly confident that they were actual descendants of the Prophet. Something like that is taken pretty seriously so fabricating is a monumental task and really hard to pull off.
@@HikmaHistory the line of succession is still going with current imam being aga khan 4. And yes there are descendants of the prophet. Straight from ali and fatima
Excuse me but you can't say Ghilman soldiers are turks and others berbers.Ghilman are a term for slaves soldiers from different regions including not only Central Asia but Africa, Caucasus, and Byzantine Empire The rivalry is basically a racial rivalry between black and white peoples and is explained in the book of Thierry Bianquis "Damas and Syria under fatimid rules" in which he explains briefly at the begining of the book how black soldiers from south egypt (sudan) and others africans regions were not appreciated by Syrian people and the tension resulting from this cultural/racial differences. The thing that Ghilman had in common is that they were taken young, at age 10 apparently.
They fight them in sekelya and they win also they defend aginst crusades first attack and win and they fight against habasha in south africa read history
@@Nomadicenjoyerplus ofcourse no you should read history lol fatmids read much more wars also crusades didn’t take juresalem from fatimids they took it from abbasid
Imam al Muiz Qadi al Nu’man Dai Muayuddin Shirazi Hujjat Nasir Khusrow House of Wisdom(Dorul Hikma) and first world recorded University Al Azhar. Is there any other Muslim Ruler in the history of Islam that had Jew Vizier?
Fatimîd (Shiites = the Islam heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism) were more tolerant and advanced than Sunnis and the Sunnis were backward even at that time.
The Great Dai-al-Mutlaq Huzurala Siyadna Aliqadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula (TUS) is the legitimate & truthful successor/representative of the Ahl-ul-Bait (SA) & their great Fatimid Heritage. ❤🇮🇳❤
@@wasjucktdichmeinname2167The Kutuma Berber tribes of Algerian origin (Petite Kabylie and Constantine regions) were the mainstay of the Fatimid empire, representing the army elite. The movement began in Algeria around 902, when the Kutuma Berbers converted to Shiism, and Ikjan🇩🇿 became their stronghold to conquer the Sunni Aglabids of Tunis. In 909, they destroyed the Aglabids, then set about freeing Ubaid and bringing him to power, Ubaid the "mahdi", in order to found a caliphate together. It was thanks to them that the Fatimids were able to exist, playing such crucial roles as : - the liberation of Ubayd from Sijilmassa prison in Morocco . - or when they saved the Fatimid caliphate, which was hanging by a thread during Abu Yazid's revolt! - Not to mention the raids in Italy and the conquest of Sicily, the conquest of the Maghreb, Egypt and the Hedjaz, then the countries of the Levant. - Repressions against Al-Hasan al-A'sam and the Quarmati tribe. All the territories conquered by the Fatimids were controlled by governors of Algerian origin, such as : Asad ibn Abi Rashid: Governor of Sicily Ibn Menad: Governor of Magrehb. Jaysh ibn al-Samsama: Governor of Tripoli and Damascus. Ali ibn ja'far ibn fallah: Governor of Damascus and the Levant countries conquered by his father. I'll mention a few names of personalities of Algerian origin who held high positions: Ja'far ibn Fallah, Al-Hasan ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Khinzir, Ali ibn Ja'far ibn Fallah (the right-hand man of the caliph al Hakim) Ziri ibn Menad , Jaysh ibn Samsama , Safiyy al-Dawla, Salim ibn Asad ibn Abi Rashid, Abu Ali Ja'far ibn Fallah al-Kutami Jabr ibn al-Qāsim, Abu Muhammad al-Hasan ibn Ali Sulayman ibn Fallah Hisn ad-Dawlah Mualla al-Kitami ... When the Fatimid government decided to move the capital to Kairouan (a land conquered by the kutuma) a huge part of the kutuma tribe also settled there with Ubaid. When the capital was moved to Cairo (a land conquered by the Kutuma army led by Jawahr al Siquilli and Jafar ibn Fallah, a Kutuma Berber and future general), a large part of the Kutuma tribe settled in Cairo to continue governing, and founded the "El-Hai Kotamiy" district. "El-Hai Kotamiyine" as witnessed by Nashir Khusraw. More than that, the kutuma were known throughout the caliphate as Hezbollah. After the reign of terror of the caliph Al-Hâkim bi-Amr Allâh, when the kutuma demonstrated their powerful position within the Fatimid government, the jealousy of their opponents grew within the caliphate.
The Abbasids were not either. They stole the rule from the Umayyads and Andalusia as well, and the countries that rose after the Abbasids, such as the Ottomans.
Original ismailies (nizari ismailies) already left the egypt and founded Alamout dynasty in iran many years before the Salahudin came to egypt, he conquered over Bohras not over Nizaris
@@rizwankarim3257 Original Ismailis were prominent Fatimids and they believed and still believe Ubayd-Allah Ibn Maymoon al Qaddah Al Majoosi (May Allah Smear his face face with hellfire) to be the descendant of Prophet Muhammad, but is actually is a Jew and whose last Successor Al Adid was humiliated by SalahAddeen ( May peace be upon him) by systematic approach in Egypt. Most ismailis ran away and chased away from Egypt. They can be moslty found in Iran and India.
@@taifshams fatimid khilafat was founded by Abdullah Mehdi (R.A), he was 1st khalifa and 12th Imam of ismailies,. He was direct descendant of Moula Ali: Ali-Hassan-Hussain-zainul Abdin- Mohammed Baqar-jafar sadiq-Ismail-mohammad ibn ismail-wafi Ahmed-taqi Mohammed- Razdin AbdAllAh- Mohammed Mehdi Abdullah ( the first fatimid khalifa and direct descendant of Ali (R.A) from ahl bait he belongs to
What is the Fatimid's greatest legacy?
@Hassan A Great shout
Hitting them self...
@Hassan A This might be the one for me
Hassan A lol you are here
Hassan A
Turkish-Kurdish army destroyed Fatimids
fatimids struck some of the best dinars, including the ones imitated by crusaders in the 1100s
This is so good! I had no idea that the Fatimids started off by building a base of power in northwest Africa, and only later usurped the Abbasids in Egypt.
Yup. But once they got Egypt, they forgot about poor old Ifriqiya!
The Rashidun Caliphate: the amazing prequel
The Umayyad Caliphate: the award winning Series
The Abbasids: the villain spinoff series that was also successful
The Fatimids: The Sequel to the Umayyads
The Seljuks: the Sequel to the Villains spinoff
Al-Andalus: the big yet irrelevant spinoff
The Ottomans: the fanfic that became cannon
The Arab Union: Studio’s last attempt at a cash grab that failed horribly
This is an amazing comment.
Hikma History and this video is an amazing video
Thanks dude!
Hikma History and you have gained a new subscriber. Your content is amazing. Non-biased,informational,actual worth watching it’s everything a channel should be
Thank you dude, new video out Friday 2nd October. Medieval India/Afghanistan.
Thanks a lot for the video sir. It is very unfortunate that people neglect the Fatimids and their contribution to Islam as a whole. The Fatimid era was also a great era for learning the neo-platonism introduced by the great Fatimid scholar Qazi Noman and Nasir Khusrow and others. It was an era of Islamic conversions and debate on the Fatmid Ideology that the historian Frahad Daftary calls a Ismaili era. And yes these Dais carrying the message of the Imams the so called Dawah Hadiyyah reached us my forefathers in Sindh and Gujarat. Multan was a bastain of Isamili Islam the Tibetans in their description of Islam they highlight all Isamili doctrines like Natiq,etc. making it clear that the Ismailis have a lot of contruibution to early Islam in the Sub continent.
Especially my love to Imam Muizz a great poet and a scholar himself. I think you missed Imam Mustansir the great Fatimid Imam before the schism of the Nizaris and Mustallis. But thanks again.
Today on the day of Ashura when our hearts cry out on the demise of our Imam Allah's blessing be on him, I pray of the rest of humankind and people like you who give their precious time and spread knowledge and help God himself acting as AnsarAllah may God increase our knowledge. And yes I am not a shia not a sunni I am an Indian very nativists but have a soft corner for the Imams whether Zaydi, Ismaili and also the Rashidun Caliphs and also the Prophet Zarathustra.
Thanks. There will be a Part 2 (1021-1171) to this video!
Any idea about the Fatimid Da’i named Rajebal bin Sumar in Multan ...!?
Great to see your keen interest towards fatimids legacy and their contributions in Islamic world
@@HikmaHistory Brother, I don’t want to create further divide between us Muslims, as there is already quite a bit. But what percentage in present era is of Shia and Sunni population wise worldwide ? Since you’re a student of Islamic history and surely follow recent times as well.
I hope us Muslims unite and break the chains of firqa wariyat. I’m from Sindh and now understand why Multan has so many saints there.
You do not mention the Fatimid contribution to learning as it was the Golden era.who contributed to scientific research ( Ibn Sina , al-Qadi al-Nu‘man, Hamid al-Din al-Kirmani, al-Mu’ayyad fi’l-Din al-Shirazi and Nasir-i Khusraw, and scientists such as Ibn al-Haytham.. Kindly also reference Fatimid intellectual traditions.
What's funny is originally this video was meant to be about the Fatimid Golden Age where I would've spoken about cultural and intellectual progress! In Pt 2, I'll definitely mention it briefly.
@@HikmaHistory Thanks mention ..Safar nama book of Nasir - - Khusraw..wrote in that era when he came to Cairo.
Those are all Sunnis, living in the Caliphate. Rahmatullahi alayhim
@@Staerkebombe No, it was other way around actually, they all gave their true allegiance to Fatemid Imaams (Ismailis), rest everything was part of al-taqia. 🇮🇳
@@StaerkebombeNope
Nicely done! I was reading about the origins of the Nizaris a few weeks ago which brought me to Fatimids, and I was surprised how little I knew about them, yet how interesting they were. I await the next installment eagerly...
I can't wait until I get to the Assassin's!
The Nizaris are a lost cause, the Dawoodi Bohras of Subcontinent are the successors of Fatimid ilm
@@zulfiquarabbas9270 The Great Dai-al-Mutlaq Huzurala Aliqadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula (TUS) is the legitimate & truthful successor of the Ahl-ul-Bait (SA) & their great Fatimid Heritage. ❤🇮🇳❤
Quality overview man, thanks for your effort! Hope you continue this series in the future .
Appreciate that dude; pt 2 coming soon! What other Islamic dynasties would like to see covered in a series of vids?
Great video, very descriptive and entertaining, especially for a 20 minute video
My bro, thank you!
In terms of alternate history, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Abu Yazid succeeded in his revolt against the Fatimids, especially considering that his branch of Ibadism, the Nukkarites, didn't believe in establishing an imamate, but rather in a more horizontal form of rule, similar to a parlamentary republic.
Good point!
Thankfully those apostates did not succed.
Really enjoyed watching this! Thank you
Glad to hear it!
I find your videos super interesting and well put together (and I'm not even Muslim!) Peace and love to everyone
Thanks Chris!
Finally! I was gonna read a book about them but was feeling lazy. Thank you.
Haha dude this was super difficult to research. A lot of the material out there falls in to these two unhelpful categories: anti-Shia Sunni rhetoric; pro-Fatimid (Ismaili) literature. Not looking forward to making the second part of this one...
@@HikmaHistory thats actually one of the big reasons why its soo difficult for me to learn about these times. Bias in academic sources for some agenda is abhorrent.
@@ShahjahanMasood Yh man, takes a lot time to sift through all the biases and whatnot
@@HikmaHistory Which books/sources would you prefer regarding this period?
A small correction, but copts would have still been the majority during the fatimid times. They didn't lose majority status until the mamluk times
Amazing video as always sir
Why thank you!
Could you do video about Druze
Probably not directly about them but I am seriously interested in Levantine 19th/20th history, so I'll cover a lot about them e.g. Sultan al-Atrash.
i love that u got the pronounciations right , if i may i ask where u from
@@Brahmdagh bruh im algerian i speak fluent arabic , khalif in the littiral means the one that comes after the other one "succesor" and the khalifate is the whole number of succesors that passed decending from the same family*
Thanks, dude. I'll do a Q&A where I'll reveal all...
Should have mentioned that Al-Hakim was most likely assassinated on the orders of his sister Sitt al-Mulk, who hated him because her her mother was christian and his brutal crackdowns on other faiths (including demolishing the holy sepulcher), she became pretty much the defacto ruler of the fatimids after his death as she was regent to her nephew, Really interesting figure
Also ironically she cracked down hard on the Druze because they thought Al-Hakim was more divine than any of the other fatimid rulers
Gonna start Pt 2 off by talking a lot more about her!
I think the sultanate of Adal in the horn of Africa would be a great video cause I couldn't find an all around video on them
Definitely, getting more and more into Somali history recently.
@@HikmaHistory Somali history is underrated because of the distance between them and the centre of the Muslim world
@@alinur5568 Yh exactly, the same thing with SE Asia as well
@@HikmaHistory true
👍Good video
Thanks 👍
Good to be back
One thing you forgot to mention is how al-Muiz followed tradition by executing Jawhar after all the good he has done. I can never understand how these megalomaniacs think. If you don't reward your greatest allies and keep them close how will you be able to eventually delegate your power to trustworthy individuals? Every collapse of a nation can be traced to the same thing. A ruler killing his friends for fear of betrayal. Its sad and pathetic.
Great video by the way. Keep it up
Thank you. Al-Mu'izz never killed Jawhar. Are you confusing him with someone else maybe?
@@HikmaHistory Hmm that's what I was taught in school. He feared his overwhelming popularity with the Egyptian populace and 'dealt' with him. Evidence to that he never appears again in historical records
@@NTLuck
" I can never understand how these megalomaniacs think "
" He feared his overwhelming popularity with the Egyptian populace "
you answered yourself :3
Hmm, we were taught he died of natural death. We should question our school teachings as well. Mostly they are funded to support one narrative over another.
@@Sevenones we?
I tell you something funny. I watched over 400 history documentaries on youtube to quell my thirst. The channels I watch were drained, so I thought myself about topics that would interest me. I entered "Fatimids" and then "Saladin" and found nothing appealing. Your videos did not show up! I found you soon after by some other means (forgot how exactly). And I'm happy about that, your channel is a precious addition to the existing ones 👍🏽
Great to hear! Part 2 of the Fatimids coming soon!
They founded Mahdia a city here on the sea in Tunisia. Many people have their family name Ismail.
3:27 What is it with all the water on the map?
Ask Mother Nature
11:53 where's that from?
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WE WHANT MORE...
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The sunnis accept the first 4 khalifs not only the first 3. I think you are talking about the ibadis.
he is trying to say that sunnis accept the first 3 khalifas and the shia do not accept the first 3.... of course everyone accepts ali radiallahu anh as the 4th khalifa. i know his statement at 1:30 sounds very misleading
Oh snap, totally went over my head that it could be misinterpreted like that. I meant that they accept all 4 as opposed to Shia's who reject the first 3.
@@HikmaHistory Even The Zaydis doesn't necessarily reject the First 3 Caliphs either, while a lot of Ismai'li discourses with Sunnis happens more often than with Twelver Shi'as at times
There's certain nuances of what happens in reality
In Ali Sallabi’s book about Saladin, he briefly talks about ubaydullah al-Mahdi and his rise, but the author claims in the book that the Fatimid caliph was secretly a Jew who lied and deceived everyone into believing him that he was a descendant of Fatima. Tbh I think this theory is too hard to believe.
What’s your opinion on this?
I would need to know what sources he's basing his claims on but at face-value it sounds fallacious.
Hikma History the source I found at the back of the book is called al-maqdisi quoted in: Sayyid, Tareekh Misr al-islamiyya p.70 and the second source is al-maqsidi, volume 2, pp.76
And I made a mistake before, the author claimed they were of Jewish or magian descent instead of the prophet’s family
@@mmmhhhh6305 Ali then Hussan then Hussain then Zain al Abdin- then mhd baqar then jafar Sadiq then Ismail then mhd bin Ismail then wafi Ahmed then taqi mhd then razin Abdullah then mhd Mehdi, he was the right descendant of prophet Mohammed, in ismailies only ahl bait and direct son or grand son can become an Imam and it's impossible for a jew to proclaim as imam, nawozbilah
All propaganda, to smear the Fatimids claim.
Hi Hikma : ) Why do you think the Ismaelites found their followers in the periphery (Maghreb, Yemen, Bahrain, India, Persia) of the caliphate?
I am Kutami, but alhamdulillah we are sunni now.
who is kutami? Why did you convert to sunni?
@@syedmuhammadfaheem8662The Kutuma Berber tribes of Algerian origin (Petite Kabylie and Constantine regions) were the mainstay of the Fatimid empire, representing the army elite.
The movement began in Algeria around 902, when the Kutuma Berbers converted to Shiism, and Ikjan city🇩🇿 became their stronghold to conquer the Sunni Aglabids of Tunis.
In 909, they destroyed the Aglabids, then set about freeing Ubaid and bringing him to power, Ubaid the "mahdi", in order to found a caliphate together.
It was thanks to them that the Fatimids were able to exist, playing such crucial roles as :
- the liberation of Ubayd from Sijilmassa prison in Morocco .
- or when they saved the Fatimid caliphate, which was hanging by a thread during Abu Yazid's revolt!
- Not to mention the raids in Italy and the conquest of Sicily, the conquest of the Maghreb, Egypt and the Hedjaz, then the countries of the Levant.
- Repressions against Al-Hasan al-A'sam and the Quarmati tribe
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The shura for selection of abubkr and umar was not unanimous, they Forcefully took the seat. And went against the order of Allahج and the prophet, to have Aliس as his successor
Great and wondwrful collection ❤👍👍
Currently i' m reading this book, thank you for leading my short term memory to long term....
I have to think that the formalization of the madrassa response by Nizam Al-Mulk to fatimid dais is their legacy.
Shia Imams been using asymmetric tactics in ages XD still doing it today
infiltration 100
tnx great video
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Wasn't the fatimad empire basically an Egyptian empire
No it started in tunisia
@@hamzahammami22 yeah. but it was culturally and politically egyptian. I mean the capital was Cairo and egypt was the most important place
@@Menes3150 i mean yeah but that's after conquering Egypt, but before that the capital was al mahdia in tunisia and even after conquering Egypt for brief time the capital remained in tunisia
@@hamzahammami22 I mean yeah. But after that, the fatmids basically became Egypt because they assimilated into Egyptian culture
@@Menes3150 true true, so in conclusion, first it was a "tunisian" Empire but after conquering Egypt it became an Egyptian empire, sounds good to me 🙂
Hi name was
Al-Hakem (like In Red)
Not
Al-Hakeeem. (Not Reed).
I understand better now why the barbarine navy was strong it seems that it had a powerful background, since the fatimids.
So roughly speaking, Shia≈Monarchist and Sunni≈Republican?
Haha that's one way of putting it. The Sunni became a monarchy after a while, as well.
I love that logic!
I'm stealt this hh
In the most basic standpoint
Well that's a gross generalization.
Proud to be Fatimid Syed
You said three rashidun caliphate there are four sayiduna Abu abkr and Umar Uthman and Ali may Allah ﷻ be pleased with them
When?
There are twelf shia waits for that last guy Sunnis doesnt know are they
Considering Muhammad and Ali are purely fictional, I wonder if the family of the prophet really means the royal Umayyad line. Since they fled west when the Abbasids took over, the Shia movement should have started in the west, and indeed it did, with the Fatimids. I am going to speculate that “Ali” is a memory of Abd-Al-Malik. The Abbasids knew there was an Ali in popular myth, and since he was an Umayyad, they needed to kill off the character’s line. So the Abbasids likely inserted stories in the Sira to make sure Ali’s line was dead. But the western Umayyads wanted to keep the legitimacy of Abd-Al-Malik alive, and so became Shia.
Imam Mahdi the imam of Ismaili Muslim and founder of Fatimid empire. Proud to be Ismaili Muslim and following the present imam of time. Shah Karim al husaini hazir imam
You forgot to mention that Al-Mahdi conquered the Ibadi Rustamid Imamate in Algeria and the remanents of the Iddrissid Kingdom in Morocco. Everyone overlooks those states.
I think its not true , Morocco never were ruled by Fatimids
@@marouanetalbi4762 it was, for a brief period though
@@marouanetalbi4762it was actually
How come they were/are called Fatimid? Fatima (rz) was married to Ali(rz). One can call them progeny of Ali(rz) if one wishes.
because Fatima r.a. was decended from Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam :)
To show a direct lineage with Muhammad to justify their rule. Muhammad did not have any descendants from his son's.
Do you think the Fatimids were actual descendants of the prophet Muhammed? Or were they just some natives who claimed to be descendants of him for political power? Or were they Arabs who migrated there and claimed to be descendants of the prophet? I really don't know, what do you think #Hikma_History?
Probably impossible to confirm but I feel fairly confident that they were actual descendants of the Prophet. Something like that is taken pretty seriously so fabricating is a monumental task and really hard to pull off.
@@HikmaHistory the line of succession is still going with current imam being aga khan 4. And yes there are descendants of the prophet. Straight from ali and fatima
Excuse me but you can't say Ghilman soldiers are turks and others berbers.Ghilman are a term for slaves soldiers from different regions including not only Central Asia but Africa, Caucasus, and Byzantine Empire The rivalry is basically a racial rivalry between black and white peoples and is explained in the book of Thierry Bianquis "Damas and Syria under fatimid rules" in which he explains briefly at the begining of the book how black soldiers from south egypt (sudan) and others africans regions were not appreciated by Syrian people and the tension resulting from this cultural/racial differences.
The thing that Ghilman had in common is that they were taken young, at age 10 apparently.
Fatimids didn’t do anything against crusaders
They fight them in sekelya and they win also they defend aginst crusades first attack and win and they fight against habasha in south africa read history
@@balkanj5604 Crusaders won most of battles against Fatimids
@@Nomadicenjoyerplus ofcourse no you should read history lol fatmids read much more wars also crusades didn’t take juresalem from fatimids they took it from abbasid
Mad video
Imam al Muiz Qadi al Nu’man Dai Muayuddin Shirazi Hujjat Nasir Khusrow House of Wisdom(Dorul Hikma) and first world recorded University Al Azhar. Is there any other Muslim Ruler in the history of Islam that had Jew Vizier?
Fatimîd (Shiites = the Islam heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism) were more tolerant and advanced than Sunnis and the Sunnis were backward even at that time.
Then it is authentic
Completely agree on how it should remain in the family but these Sunnis worship umar uthman and Abu bakr I have seen videos on RUclips lol
The Great Dai-al-Mutlaq Huzurala Siyadna Aliqadar Mufaddal Saifuddin Maula (TUS) is the legitimate & truthful successor/representative of the Ahl-ul-Bait (SA) & their great Fatimid Heritage. ❤🇮🇳❤
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Hhhhhh theyre not algerian algerians like Always make their own happinnes
@@wasjucktdichmeinname2167The Kutuma Berber tribes of Algerian origin (Petite Kabylie and Constantine regions) were the mainstay of the Fatimid empire, representing the army elite.
The movement began in Algeria around 902, when the Kutuma Berbers converted to Shiism, and Ikjan🇩🇿 became their stronghold to conquer the Sunni Aglabids of Tunis.
In 909, they destroyed the Aglabids, then set about freeing Ubaid and bringing him to power, Ubaid the "mahdi", in order to found a caliphate together.
It was thanks to them that the Fatimids were able to exist, playing such crucial roles as :
- the liberation of Ubayd from Sijilmassa prison in Morocco .
- or when they saved the Fatimid caliphate, which was hanging by a thread during Abu Yazid's revolt!
- Not to mention the raids in Italy and the conquest of Sicily, the conquest of the Maghreb, Egypt and the Hedjaz, then the countries of the Levant.
- Repressions against Al-Hasan al-A'sam and the Quarmati tribe.
All the territories conquered by the Fatimids were controlled by governors of Algerian origin, such as :
Asad ibn Abi Rashid: Governor of Sicily
Ibn Menad: Governor of Magrehb.
Jaysh ibn al-Samsama: Governor of Tripoli and Damascus.
Ali ibn ja'far ibn fallah: Governor of Damascus and the Levant countries conquered by his father.
I'll mention a few names of personalities of Algerian origin who held high positions:
Ja'far ibn Fallah,
Al-Hasan ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Khinzir,
Ali ibn Ja'far ibn Fallah (the right-hand man of the caliph al Hakim)
Ziri ibn Menad ,
Jaysh ibn Samsama ,
Safiyy al-Dawla,
Salim ibn Asad ibn Abi Rashid,
Abu Ali Ja'far ibn Fallah al-Kutami
Jabr ibn al-Qāsim,
Abu Muhammad al-Hasan ibn Ali
Sulayman ibn Fallah
Hisn ad-Dawlah Mualla al-Kitami
...
When the Fatimid government decided to move the capital to Kairouan (a land conquered by the kutuma) a huge part of the kutuma tribe also settled there with Ubaid.
When the capital was moved to Cairo (a land conquered by the Kutuma army led by Jawahr al Siquilli and Jafar ibn Fallah, a Kutuma Berber and future general), a large part of the Kutuma tribe settled in Cairo to continue governing, and founded the "El-Hai Kotamiy" district.
"El-Hai Kotamiyine" as witnessed by Nashir Khusraw.
More than that, the kutuma were known throughout the caliphate as Hezbollah.
After the reign of terror of the caliph Al-Hâkim bi-Amr Allâh, when the kutuma demonstrated their powerful position within the Fatimid government, the jealousy of their opponents grew within the caliphate.
The Fatimid state expanded thanks to the Ketama tribe of Algeria Kabyle
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Al Hakim also abolished slavery.
Fatimids👉❤
الفاطميين عرب حجازيين 🇸🇦
كانوا بربر وجميع المصادر السنية أنكرت أن ينتسب المهدي للعرب
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map is very very wrong. an insignificant useless state
Fatimis were never a caliphate!
The Abbasids were not either. They stole the rule from the Umayyads and Andalusia as well, and the countries that rose after the Abbasids, such as the Ottomans.
Al-Qa’im: Sacks Genoa
*happy Venice noises*
Salah Ad Deen ended their legacy Alhamdulillah
Original ismailies (nizari ismailies) already left the egypt and founded Alamout dynasty in iran many years before the Salahudin came to egypt, he conquered over Bohras not over Nizaris
@@rizwankarim3257 Original Ismailis were prominent Fatimids and they believed and still believe Ubayd-Allah Ibn Maymoon al Qaddah Al Majoosi (May Allah Smear his face face with hellfire) to be the descendant of Prophet Muhammad, but is actually is a Jew and whose last Successor Al Adid was humiliated by SalahAddeen ( May peace be upon him) by systematic approach in Egypt. Most ismailis ran away and chased away from Egypt. They can be moslty found in Iran and India.
@@rizwankarim3257 What do you mean?
@@rizwankarim3257 Ubayd Allah im talking about and ubayd allah you are talking about are two different personas buddy
@@taifshams fatimid khilafat was founded by Abdullah Mehdi (R.A), he was 1st khalifa and 12th Imam of ismailies,. He was direct descendant of Moula Ali: Ali-Hassan-Hussain-zainul Abdin- Mohammed Baqar-jafar sadiq-Ismail-mohammad ibn ismail-wafi Ahmed-taqi Mohammed- Razdin AbdAllAh- Mohammed Mehdi Abdullah ( the first fatimid khalifa and direct descendant of Ali (R.A) from ahl bait he belongs to
They were hilarious, especially Al Hakim lmao