How The Fatimid Caliphate Declined | Fatimid Documentary (1021-1171)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory  3 года назад +15

    What do you think was the main reason for the Fatimid’s decline?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow 3 года назад +2

      Instabilty, lack of public support, child rulers, and Yusuf.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 3 года назад +3

      Because of Nuraddin Zangi

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад +1

      @@SamAronow Making me summon my deepest historical knowledge, I see you Samuel.

    • @McVaySwifty
      @McVaySwifty 3 года назад +2

      Cos they didn't have the almighty Saladin leading them from the start! :P

    • @mohamedmabrouk2797
      @mohamedmabrouk2797 3 года назад +1

      Too much greed for power in their religion

  • @LetsTalkReligion
    @LetsTalkReligion 3 года назад +34

    So clear and well explained as always, and such nice production too! Very happy to do this collab with you!

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 3 года назад +8

    This is such an underappreciated channel, the videos are very well researched and the production values are excellent as well.
    You deserve many more subscribers and I hope the algorithm treats you better in the future.
    Thanks for sharing these with us.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад

      I hope so too, Ross! Thank you for the kind words

  • @aqilhussain4305
    @aqilhussain4305 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video and thank you for doing this. It's a balanced and respectful view. Look forward to more.

  • @rdwwdr3520
    @rdwwdr3520 3 года назад +4

    This was such a great video and history lesson. I will binge on all your videos. Would you ever consider doing a video on the Almoravid/Almohad history?

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад

      Done both in some shape

    • @vaktus3380
      @vaktus3380 Год назад

      @@HikmaHistory Can you cover the almoravid conquests of Ghana empire and the Sudan, its a shame that afrocentrists have buried its legacy, read Sheryl Burkhalters and refutation against reinterpretations of Arabic historical works

  • @Johnny_angel555
    @Johnny_angel555 2 года назад +2

    your presentations are great.

  • @kmmmsyr9883
    @kmmmsyr9883 3 года назад +13

    - Fight between slave soldiers and free soldiers
    - State not being able to pay soldiers
    - Soldiers making extreme demands
    - Soldiers plundering ordinary citizens when not paid
    - Slave/free soldiers getting more powerful whenever someone of their own rise to power in imperial court
    - Decline of sultan's own authority
    - Women rising to power
    Fatimids were being Ottoman before it was cool

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 3 года назад +1

      Women rising to power is a bad thing ?

    • @M.H.S608
      @M.H.S608 3 года назад +1

      Not Sultans, their titles were Caliphs and Imams.

    • @elemperadordemexico
      @elemperadordemexico 2 года назад +4

      @@leaveme3559 yes

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 2 года назад +1

      @@elemperadordemexico I feel sorry for your mother

    • @karimmezghiche9921
      @karimmezghiche9921 2 года назад +1

      @@leaveme3559
      Yes because it led to the decline and destruction of the state

  • @ShahjahanMasood
    @ShahjahanMasood 3 года назад +4

    This is my favorite RUclips channel bar none. Islamic History is so overlooked.

  • @zxera9702
    @zxera9702 3 года назад +5

    Great video man the Fatimids need to get their act together lmao.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад +2

      Thanks man! Don’t be so harsh on them, they had a decent run haha

    • @zxera9702
      @zxera9702 3 года назад

      @@HikmaHistory True that.

  • @kellx1387
    @kellx1387 Год назад

    thank you important history

  • @Huzefakhozemasaifee
    @Huzefakhozemasaifee 3 года назад +3

    The Taiiyibis didn't necessarily want At-tayyib to rule. They we're ok with Hafiz's rule as long as he didn't call himself an Imam. Unfortunately, he did just that.

    • @karimmezghiche9921
      @karimmezghiche9921 2 года назад

      So the Tayyibi wanted to abolish the position of Imam?

    • @barrymoore4470
      @barrymoore4470 Год назад

      @@karimmezghiche9921 No, the imamate was of central importance in Ismaili belief, but a distinction was recognized between a temporal ruler, who could wield political or executive power, and an imam, who was invested with spiritual authority. The Fatimids of course combined the two offices in one person, but theoretically, they could have been divided, so that Hafiz could have ruled, while al-Tayyib would have inherited the imamate and embodied spiritual authority for Ismaili adherents, in turn passing on the imamate to his future son.

  • @iliassaleh9324
    @iliassaleh9324 3 года назад +1

    Great vid. Can u do a video on the Ahmad shah durrani

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 2 года назад +2

    The Banu Hilal invasion was the beginning of the end for the Maghreb, particularly because they destroyed a lot of the agricultural infrastructure of the region, as Ibn Khaldun himself narrates, which forced many settled peoples into nomadism. It was also important because that began the arabization process of the region, which is still ongoing and has led to the marginalization of the native Berber/Amazigh population.

    • @izfe830
      @izfe830 2 года назад

      Not really.banu hilal allied with zeneta who are amazigh

    • @karimmezghiche9921
      @karimmezghiche9921 2 года назад

      You're forgetting that after the Banu Hilal invasion the Maghreb had its strongest ruling dynasty ever, the Almohads.

  • @thestrangerofmountains
    @thestrangerofmountains Год назад +1

    And then the chad sultan Saladin came with his uncle Sherko under noureddine Zengid and said, "It's time for a change of management."😂

  • @gadyariv2456
    @gadyariv2456 3 года назад +4

    seems to me this overview isn't critical enough of the historical narrative. especially when it comes to the blame put on sub-Sharan Africans during Rasad time. it's the 21st century we should have a more critical approach to history, did Rasad promote Africans over Turks and Berbers, or maybe she wasn't prejudiced against them like previous rulers, so Africans could get positions they couldn't previously, and the Turk and Berbers jealously viewed their lose of privilege as favoritism? who is the chronicler, who wrote the narrative, and what is their agenda? we can't take it as gospel without critical examination.
    I'm very suspicious that Rasad, as a black woman that held an immense amount of power is depicted negatively by Muslim historians because of their biases against sub-Sharan Muslims and women in power.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад +2

      Pretty specific thing to focus on. Regardless, with that kinda outlook we'd be stuck doing historiographic analysis all day long. Of course there are issues of subjectivity with every historical source ever.

    • @gadyariv2456
      @gadyariv2456 3 года назад +1

      @@HikmaHistory No needs to get that far. But the narrative as you told here is very biased against Rasad.

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 3 года назад +1

    great documentary as always.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 года назад +1

    What about Manjutakin ?

  • @IDK-ue1gy
    @IDK-ue1gy 3 года назад +1

    Someone should make a rap for the mad caliph

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 3 года назад +3

    Will there be a video about the Mahdist State of Sudan? I never see anyone did a video about Muhammad Ahmad al-Mahdi and the state that he established before.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  3 года назад

      That's an interesting shout tbh, never thought about it before. Thanks!

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview 2 года назад

    Who were the majority: black African or berbers?
    If u switch allegiance to abassid, does that mean u hv to become Sunni too?

    • @karimmezghiche9921
      @karimmezghiche9921 2 года назад +1

      It depends on the period, before the Fatimid conquest of Egypt the Berbers were the majority of the army and remained so for a few decades after the conquest. But afterwards the Black slaves became the majority because it was much cheaper and easier to recruit them.
      The Abbassid Caliph was the religious head of Sunni Islam, so if you were to swear allegiance to him it means that you have converted to Sunnism.

    • @zxera9702
      @zxera9702 Год назад

      No, I don't think you have to become sunni to pay allegiance to abbasids.The Buyids,a shia dynasty protected Abbasids from the Fatimids

  • @samiuddin4172
    @samiuddin4172 Год назад

    the only empire who created cario city from scratch

  • @IchigoKurosaki-nu8bo
    @IchigoKurosaki-nu8bo 3 года назад +2

    Why did you say that the majority of the citizens inside the caliphate were sunnis? It depends on the period, but I do not think it is true. We have no real evidences supporting either a sunni or shia majority before the decline of the caliphate. Maybe after the decline peoples were more inclined to become sunnies but it is only a supposition.

    • @karimmezghiche9921
      @karimmezghiche9921 2 года назад

      We do have some evidence, during Al-Hakim's reign the citizens rebelled because he made the decision of cursing the first 3 caliphs, if the citizens were Shia they would have been fine with it.

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 2 года назад

    Ethnic riots always screw Empires over. America should learn that lesson, or risk ending up like the Fatimids, Austria-Hungary, the Ummayads, or the Mongols.

  • @tajduinkhan6976
    @tajduinkhan6976 2 года назад

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  • @syededits2545
    @syededits2545 3 года назад

    Theif