Cometa Fenix 400 & Ultra Short Carbine review (.22 UK spec)-Big Dan's Airguns.
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- It's been a long time in the making due to the crappy weather which unfortunately rears its ugly head in the video but here it finally is, our Cometa 400 and Ultra Short Carbine review!!
Despite the weather these two rifles performed exceptionally well and are in our opinion some of the best break barrels on the market today. Both rifles come with two stage adjustable triggers, cold hammer forged barrels and to top it all off... a lifetime warranty!!
For more information or for purchasing either of these rifles get in touch with us at www.bigdansairguns.co.uk. RFD transfers available!
Bought a fenix 400 from Dan on the basis of this video and 2 and a half hours with Dan trying out various guns. I suffer with arthritis so having an easy to cock, accurate gun with a light trigger was on the must have list. This gun ticks all the boxes and thanks to Dan for his patience with a newbie asking all sorts of daft questions. His help and advice was invaluable, now all I have to do is learn to shoot the damn thing, lol.
I purchased a couple of these through my local auction house the first a star carbine about ten years ago and the second a standard 400 about six years ago, I stripped them both, and the carbine once degreased deburred and polished shot like a dream, would not part with it for all the tea. I did replace the spring, it was a second hand gun and relubed. The second gun I removed a nasty looking piston weight and reassembled. As I was content with the carbine I sold it on. What has surprised me is that it has taken so long for this great gun to be recognized, A tuners dream surely, this FWB copy not expensive, well built,even if in need of a little finessing a real unsung hero.
Hi David!
Absolutely spot on. These rifles are very nice to shoot straight out of the box but with some tinkering they absolutely shine. I love my Weihrauchs but my Fusion is every bit as accurate.
@@bigdansairguns83 I have been singing this guns praises for the last ten years, from Bisley to Newark, only to get looked at like I was short of a brain cell or two and got the usual reply " Oh yes a Spanish gun" In that derogatory fashion folk have. I would always reply " It's a better gun than you might imagine, give it a try" I think the big problem was the price point ASI pitched the gun at ten or so years ago, had they sold it at just over cost retail, the guns uptake would have been rapid and it would have found favour enough to push up the price. Added to that there was no publicity at least non that came my way. Perhaps they assumed the gun would sell it's self in a biased market place.
@@davidprocter3578 That's the exact same response I get until they try one. The other day I put my untuned Fusion through its paces unrested at 35 yards and managed two easy sub 5p groups... it doesn't get much better than that.
The issue is that some brands have established themselves as the "ultimate" company/rifle and any competition is inferior as standard, sadly many shooters are now in that mindset. People tend to say that rifle XYZ will be more reliable even if the Cometa is as/more accurate despite the fact that Cometa offer lifetime warranties on all products (even if some dealers refuse to honour that). Given the choice I know which rifle I'd choose.
Had a fenix 400 when I was a teenager. Absolutely great rifle, felt great to shoulder and smooth to shoot and once you get the feel for the trigger it was excellent. Powerful and accurate. The stock looked a lot nicer on mine than the one in this vid, like more polished. All in all in terms of what you get for the money they’re fantastic.
Cut the crap! They're rubbish guns..
Sorry I couldn't resist haha. Yeah they're an excellent bit of kit. I've noticed that they use a different finish these days compared to the older models and I agree I do prefer the polished almost gloss look.
They make a great rifle Cometa, every bit as accurate as Weihrauch in my experience.
Thanks for the comment matey.
@@bigdansairguns83 haha good one lol. Thanks mate, yeah I miss my old one. Great videos by the way really enjoy them 👍
The carbine look so like a Webley Tracker. A break barrel Tracker! Heaven!!!
Thanks Dan, Great review, I really liked the Ultra Short Carabine. cheers.
Hi Luis! That was my personal favourite too... I actually haven't taken that little scope off of it yet as I don't think I can bring myself to put the rifle away.
Impressive accuracy for those, especially in those conditions.
Always enjoy your reviews 👍
I have had a comets fusion for about 11 years now. It's decently accurate out to 3 or so. Nicely powerful at 24j
Fell in love with the USC! Thank you for the video Daniel.
Thanks Vaios you're more than welcome! The USC is my pick of the pair actually even though I usually like longer rifles.
Beware on the power. I purchased my USC just before the second lockdown so did not get to use it for several months.
When I finally got to use it I put a tin through it and sent it off for a service and relube. It came back with a note informing me it was running at 13.8 ft/lbs. I am led to understand most are built for 20ft/lbs. Mine now runs at 10.8ft/lbs and is sweet. As for the plastic trigger? Who cares? I don’t, it works fine apart from the first stage
Great review, very fair and balanced. Keep up the good work.
With so many reviewers out there, I enjoy yours. I too am very consistent in my inconsistency’s, a trait I can live with.
Hi Ray!
Thanks for that it really means a lot. If you're as unfortunate as me when it comes to shooting Sir you have my utmost sympathies haha. Brilliant shooting one minute and then pants the next!
Great video as always . If i had to choose i would go for the Fenix 400 .
41:22 Dan, the model you looking for already exists, is the Fênix 400s Compact, I have one. And yes, this model come with open sigths.
Here in Brazil we have a local manufacture doing a aluminum trigger blade for this rifles at affordable price. Realy make diference.
Excuse my poor english, cheers from Brazil! 👍👍🍻
Hi TPERETTI!
You type in English better than I speak it mate haha. Those metal triggers would be beautiful on these I might see if I can get some sent over and fit them for those interested in the rifles.
Thanks for watching and for the info!
@@bigdansairguns83
Here the link for the page of the manufacture: quickshot.com.br/gatilhos/#1569861284912-8832c894-cc61
Good luck in the importacion 👍👍🍻
That usc imagine her with a Welch willy! This looks more sworded than it sounded in my head😊Great vid Dan nice to see you back
Hahaha yeah you've got to love that name haven't you. He's a lovely fella Will.
I agree though, I don't know if he makes any blades to fit the Cometa unit but my god how great would that blade look in there?
@@bigdansairguns83 oh yes !!!awesome Dan ,right next to that checking 🤤 I am dribbling
You cant beat a welsh willy! 🤣 them kits make any gun great.
@@stevejohnson1797 you ain't wrong steve
Thanks Dan ! Nicely done.
Thanks Alton!
just bought one from leicestsrshire air guns the trigger is great out the box znd well inpressed give my hw95 a run for its monsy great review thxs dan
Good review mate love my carbine excellent gun and very accurate
Hey Sam!
They're cracking little rifles aren't they. Cometa rifles are criminally underappreciated in the UK so I might push these a bit further to hopefully get them some attention as they're bloody fine bits of kit. I'm thinking another shoot off might be in order against the HW80K.
@@bigdansairguns83 yeah they are brilliant guns thanks for getting me the carbine mate it's my favorite spring gun along with my eclipse of course and the fusion I shot at your was an absolute beauty as well really nice guns and as you no I've owned hw in the past I'll open my own RUclips account so I don't have to use my wife's then next time you will no it's me mate😂
@@Dan-bt2nu Hahaha glad to hear it Dan. I won't lie I might reply to this post every once in a while just to see how close I can get to getting you killed.
"Thanks for buying the Cometa Advance Dan it means a lot".
Hola amigo, por no tener dinero para poder llegar a comprar un HW97, compre un Cometa Compact Fusion 5.5, se que no es lo mismo pero adoro mi rifle, bien sencillo y sumamente preciso para lo que yo quiero, recomiendo la marca Cometa a ojos cerrados que además tiene un gran respaldo, saludos desde Montevideo, Uruguay
Hi Dan, nice pair of rifles, I've always liked the look of the cometa range but was unsure as to their accuracy, I'd say you've answered that question, I'd like to see the carbine out in the field looks like it would make a great little hunting rifle at sensible ranges, surtainly has the power for the job also you may find a better pellet for greater accuracy. Nice 🙂 video this one was something a bit different in a good way cheers Dan atb Dave
Thanks David!
The Cometa barrel so far from what I've seen myself and from what I've heard from customer feedback is superb (I tend to use customers as guinea pigs occasionally... don't tell them!).
It was such a bugger that the weather didn't want to cooperate at all for us which really hindered our long range groups. If you want to see what a Cometa barrel can really do take a look at our Fusion review where we had calm conditions.. I think you'll be impressed. I know I was!
Great looking rifles. Love the carbine. Great video!
Thanks Mike!
Hi Dan, THX. That Ultra Short Carbine - why not in .177 ? Next time plse keep a BSA Spitfire ready at the side, in case that other Spit passes again ! Pity that you could'nt catch that Merlin sound some better ! So glad you are back and with such nice guns.
Hey Hendrick!
It's good to be back mate. That Spitfire was doing laps around here and the sound was absolutely beautiful. The sound of freedom as we like to say. It's too bad that the lapel mics blocked out some of the sound.
I used the .22 as we had both the 400 Fenix and the USC available in .22. That being said I do plan on reviewing the USC deluxe in .177 in the future.
The Cometas are fantastic mate and if you liked these you'll love the Fusion.
Nice to see you back.. after seeing that weight Deffo won't be buying the carbine.
Hey Yeti!
It's definitely more of a hunter than a target gun for sure. I think that's the reason why I fell in love with it a bit.
It's also excellent at killing shoes if you saw our final hidden footage. ;)
I bought a Fenix 400 (.177) about 20 years ago, not used it a great deal but it gets regular spring/summer usage these days. My point is, this year I thought the rifle was playing up (jamming) but it transpires that the superdomes I always used, are not what they were. The last batch were simply too tight on the skirt, causing the jam, so I am now a JSB Exact convert. Hope that helps someone else on pellet choice.
Well done! I know springers supposedly aren't that noisy and rarely does anyone measure decibel level, but it would be a nice add to reviews. I own 2 USA Weihrauchs, the HW30 is quiet about 75 to 80 decibels, the 50 is louder about 80 to 85 decibels, but both I can shoot in my yard.
Nice video, pal keep them coming, 😁👍
There you go, you asked for it and it happened.
Could you ask for me to win the lottery next? I'll share some of it I promise!
Nice review given the conditions
Thanks Mike!
The reason it took so long to get the video out there was because the weather has been utter tripe. Wind, rain, wind and rain and even thunder. In the end I didn't want to keep you all waiting so long so I bit the bullet and whipped the camera out.
Excellent review keep them coming 👍🏻
Thanks Simon!
Hello Dan. Thankyou for another great review on the rifles I haven't heard of before as a newby, the two Cometa's, .22. The ultra short carbine caught my eye, as it looked fantastic and reminded me of my BSA Lightning XL SE. All my life, I always yearned for a good quality,spring, BSA air rifle. However, after not having it long, then being told they were rubbish by someone I classed as knowing what they were talking about, I got shut, losing £150.
With great regret, as a novice, I thought if BSA could could make machine guns that fired bullets through the propeller blades of the Spitfire and Hurricane, making a great quality spring rifle should be a walk in the park. However, it doesn't seem so. As a young boy, I would have loved BSA to manufacture an air rifle that would have competed with the Weirhauch's. I don't think they did though, in my humble, novice opinion. The BSA R10's, to me, look gorgeous. However, I've heard they have problems with their regulators. This should not be, from a business that has so much history and expertise. The Weirhaurch's are around for years. They have no major problems and are bomb proof. I so wish BSA could do the same, it's so where they should be.
I love the look and performance of the Cometa USC, and it performed great for you, even in the wind. It frustrates me, as much as it does you, why they have plastic on such an able, heavyweight, quality air rifle. I'd love to know your thoughts on what I've written.
Thankyou for your time, Ian.
Like the look of the carbine.both seem quite.another great review.it was a shit day to do an accuracy review 😀.but thats Englands summer time.
Hey Bernie!
I didn't want to keep you guys waiting any longer so unfortunately I had to deal with what god gave me..... awful weather.
That being said the Fusion review which I'm uploading now had pretty much perfect weather so I can't complain too much.
My dad had a Cometa 300 a few years back. Built like a tank but I wasn't crazy about the trigger and the breech was very tight with all pellets. I must be the only person that likes Gamo triggers.
Great video. Totally agree with you with the bloody plastic barrel shroud and triggers. I just recently had the plastic barrel shroud on my Gamo CFX break and they want a stupid price for the replacement plastic crap. So I made an Aluminium one and fitted it. I am looking for a all rounder break barrel in .22 and the Cometa really caught my eye now. In South Africa we don't have power restrictions so would really like to see what the full power spec can do in .22 but to find one
Great review Dan, i do like the look of that carbine mate, having said that dont think you would go wrong with either of them mate, down to personal preference , Cheers
Hey Casper.
As you said both are excellent rifles but I agree the carbine for me just comes to the shoulder so well. It even cocks so smoothly and easily too which you wouldn't expect out of a rifle with such a short barrel.
Thanks Casper!
great reviews you do, i am ordering a Cometa .22 model 95 as soon as they come in.airforce international.
Great review, hi from México.
Hi Jorge!
Thanks that means a lot amigo! We actually have some laminate stocked Cometa's coming in soon if you liked these. I can't wait to have a proper play with them.
Thanks Jorge and all the best from cold and rainy England!
great review,regards from Argentine,i have a cometa fusion premier.22,it is quite similar,as they say
Hi Sergio!
We're going to be reviewing the Fusion next as it's a beautiful rifle! We had a customer come down a while back and had a few shots at a target standing and leaning on his car and he was stacking pellets at 30+ yards.
I doubt I'll be able to do that but he was excellent haha!
@@bigdansairguns83 I'm looking forward to the Fusion, hell of a gun IMHO
@@bigdansairguns83 excellent,i eagerly await that review,i have suscribed your channel tank you!
Hi Dan iam whatching one of your older videos.?How far is the muzzle from the chronograth when your power testing.
I notice all the air rifles and guns resemble bolt action hunting editions. And a lot consist of wooden color or black. Wooden rifles look more classic, just like the old gunners in their younger days.
Oh gosh, you have a devilish taste in triggers... 🤣👍
I shall take that as a compliment....
I think haha.
Had airguns since 1960s DONT worry about triggers or balance just how they shoot ,stop moaning ,if you can shoot just do it 🇬🇧
I do agree to an extent. The weight/balance can put people off however usually when they're a tad nose heavy so I always mention balance.
That being said... if it's me shooting recreationally just give me the damn rifle and let me shoot haha.
Thanks John!
The higher power one twangs a lot.
Hi Sproosemoose.
The USC doesn't twang but you get that slight "ping" after the shot cycle. The cycle itself is more of a "boof!".
God I sound like an idiot typing that haha.
See dan the devil spirits drained those batteries never mock 666.cheers bud.good video..
Winston sir I'm so glad you could join us!
Yeah it was that and it cursed the weather I think too!
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying our reviews in the afterlife good sir and I hope the Spitfire cameo put a smile on your face. Now if you see him go give Hitler a good slap around the face for me.
Thanks bud!
Hi Dan, I understand that Cometa's are rough on scopes. Could you recommend a few scopes, or review scopes in general, for the Cometa 400? Thanks.
dan hello may i ask a question.
is the short carbine as good as you say i am so confused been caught out before any help would be very welcome from you thanx stef
I'd like to see the USC group on a nice day with pellets better then Hobbys.
Hi Gecko!
We need to retest them really don't we as the weather was awful. During my testing the Hobbies did the best but to be fair the wind was so bad that it might've just been luck at the time.
The wind killed that test Nice looking guns but come on (Plastic trigger) why it wood be so much more crisp with a metal one
Hey Jeff!
I 100% agree... imagine a lovely brass looking trigger on those guns with a metal trigger guard. They're still a nice little trigger regardless but it's missed potential for sure.
This review still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I had no choice but to film it then due to my schedule but I might have to sneak them in another video somehow. Maybe a USC vs HW80K
video could be good.. the new boy versus the legend.
Did you state the difference in length of both these rifles? There doesn't seam to be much difference, maybe 2 inches max?
An old school friend in the mid 80s had a ASI magnum not a bad gun. Not as good as my HW80 😁
Hi Wayne.
The 80 is prettier too... although credit to the Magnum many air rifles had the exposed front end back then. I'm very tempted to do a shootout with our beloved HW80 vs the USC. The 80 has the better trigger but down range that'd be damn close!!
Great video of the rifles but just for a change try and do the BSA meteor and the BSA supersport all the best untill next time
Hi Stephen.
Funny you mention that it was only yesterday I was chatting to a good friend of mine about doing some retro reviews on some of the old BSA's, Webleys, Diana's etc. We've still got to finish our underlever shootout too as we can't leave it at 1:1.
Dan is silencer removable on usc?, to add a different one
Hi Dan,or anyone else…..can you explain why at the top/front of the stock,for-end,there are 2 machined pockets that I can’t possibly think of a reason why they are there.🤔 This seems to be common on most of their range of rifles.
Hi bud!
The small holes you see in the forestock are the screw holes to hold to stock into the action.
@@bigdansairguns83 Dan you seem to be misunderstanding me…..I’m not talking about the stock/barrel fixing holes on the side of the for-end but the machined pockets on the inside at the front of the for-end when viewed from above.They are not even symmetrical as one is deeper than the other.🤷🏼♂️
They are to accomadate sights when barrell bent on many makes of rifles
hey
the fenix 400 is a nice rifle. I'm thinking about buying one. Still unsure between spring or GP. I only have spring guns. Do you know the GP version
Hi Jeroen!
I haven't personally tried the gas ram version yet but no doubt it'd be an interesting rifle to shoot for sure. As far as I'm aware A-S-I don't import any of the gas rams to the UK as otherwise I'd happily look into one for you.
Thanks Jeroen!
hey dan, tbh those groupings even with the adverse weather they are still rabbit head size so I'd be happy with that. whats the length of the barrel of the usc without the mod on.
thanks for sharing
Hi Steve.
To be fair I wasn't that happy with this review simply because of the weather and that I know in calm conditions both of these could do some amazing groups. But it's probably been nearly a month since our last review so it had to be done.
When I get a spare minute I'll pop the silencer off and let you know.
@@bigdansairguns83 cheers dan
What cronograph are they using? Cheers.
Hi Garry!
We use the Caldwell chronograph.
As all ways grate informative videos, any chance reviewing a beeman cheif 2 .22 would be grate to see what they offer for 5he money
Hi Ian I'll see what I can do!
Very nice video.Which Cometa would you buy for yourself? Greetings from Niš, Serbia.
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Someone please make a short barrel carbine multi pump rifle.🙃🙂🙃
That would be excellent! The main issue you'd have though is getting the power up high enough especially if it's being used for hunting. Shorter barrels usually mean less air efficiency.
Hi buddy I like your videos now I love to take airgun shooting as a sport , I am beginners can you suggest me a good BB rifle please or a pcp gun , please do reviews of Hatsan BB and pcp guns ..
Hi Venkat!
Thanks for the kind comments it means a lot. We do have a Hatsan Galatian that we're waiting to review which is a lovely bit of kit.
For a starters rifle it all depends on your budget and roughly what you'd be looking for in a rifle. Would weight be a potential concern, overall budget and finally what you'd be planning to use the rifle for (hunting/target etc).
Thanks Venkat and let me know and I'll see if I can steer you in the right direction.
@@bigdansairguns83 Thank you Dan for your reply, I am looking for target shooting/ hunting as well , budget is £250 -300 . Many says Hatsan , gamo , AA, weihrauch. Confusing me , you suggest me a model and I will buy and practice, thanks.
Think I'd take one of these over the HW99S and I love my 99. Yikes
Hi Ed.
That's high praise as the 99S is a great little gun. The 400/USC are right up there with it though and I'd genuinely put the Cometa barrel on par with the HW unit.. it actually might be less pellet fussy than the HW barrel. The USC vs HW99s could be an interesting face off video in the future perhaps?
@@bigdansairguns83 Go for it, mate! That would be very interesting. I have an oldish Cometa 220 which is a bit... unrefined shall we say, but it's very accurate and one thing I really rate is that it's so easy to strip down whereas the 99 seems to take twice as long with all those square blocks and the nut in the trigger unit 🙄 I'd be interested to know if the 400 is as straightforward to disassemble. Cheers.
@@VortymLichbane Hi Ed!
The current opinion I've heard from the tuners that have had rifles off of us is that the Cometas are very very easy to strip.
A customer of mine fetched me his older 220 to shoot and you're right it's a tad bland in regards to styling but it was a damn sweet shooter. Apparently it'd never put a foot wrong with him neither. It's because of what people like yourself have said about Cometa that I decided to start dealing in them and trying to push them into the spotlight a bit. They're such a lovely gun.
@@bigdansairguns83 Absolutely! Being a cheaper gun, I've never worried about getting it wet or dirty, so it's a real workhorse. That's not to say it's abused but it's no cabinet queen!
@@VortymLichbane Spot on and that's the type of rifle I like. No offense to the high powered laminate stock target rifles etc but I prefer rifles that you can actually put to work and not be frightened to death of marking it 24/7.
Greetings from Ukraine!an excellent device for little money, I have it in plastic, but caliber 4.5, Dan, can you tell me a link or a store where you can buy a barrel with a 22 gauge clutch, grateful in advance
Bsa barrels ??
Hi Phil!
Nope. Cometa make their own barrels. One of the easiest tells is that they don't have the "Hammer forged barrel" logo stamped into the barrels like BSA.
Dan any chance you could do a review on the snowpeak p35?
Hey CRB15.
We'll never say no we'll see what we can do!
Can you make a Weirhauch HW90 review please.
Hi Tyson!
I'll see what I can do.
@@bigdansairguns83 Great I love them, I have two, one in .177 and a . 22 silencer version, in my opinion they are a very underated rifle, very accurate and fast lock time, some people hate them I don't understand why? Id like to see a in depth review like you do in your videos, great chanel by the way.
cometa is great airguns,,only the weichrauch is better!!!!
Hey bud!
I think my top three new springers companies are: Weihrauch, Air Arms and now Cometa. I'm genuinely tempted to do a shoot off between my beloved HW80 and the USC it'd be neck and neck.
I do like these cometa 400's but I don't think they have the best barrels in the world the one I had was super fussy and not up to the accuracy of say a remmy express/sabre and I've seen a few people say the same thing.
When more expensive than a hw99s the accuracy shouldn't need to be questioned.
Hi Matthew!
When did you have accuracy issues with the Cometas? I've admittedly not been trading with them long but each one has been incredibly accurate and not pellet fussy at all.
I did hear from a buddy that a few years back they made a carbine that didn't group well but I'm wondering if they've changed something during the barrel making process.
I'd happily put either of the Cometas against any HW springer. The only thing Cometa lack compared to HW's is the Rekord trigger which I still say is the best trigger on the market.
@@bigdansairguns83 it was a few years ago now to be fair bud, it wasn't a one off incident tho as when I researched it I found a lot of people had created threads on forums with the exact same issue, mine wasn't a carbine it was a cometa 400 galaxy, very nice to look at but would only produce 20mm groups at 30 yards and I tried a lot of pellets lol, my weihrauchs and Webley longbow at the time would produce single hole groups.
The trigger tho was sweet after a polish and if I remember right I changed a spring for a lighter one which eliminated the creep.
Also I had .177 not .22 as I like the girly cal lol.
My own 400 USC and has excellent accuracy and isn't pellet fussy at all. I have settled on H&N Spitzkugel jbut it shoots FTT, Hobby, Superdome and Meisterkugelen equally well. The Spitz are just that wee bit different to the norm.
Its trigger did have a gritty feel which disappeared during the first tin of pellets.
A tremendous air rifle all round
The carbine seamed to have more of a twang than the Fenix 400.
Dan, does this review still need the promised revisiting during a nice weather spell, then?
Study the still images and look: the scope rails are rather short with no end stop...
Hi Hendrick!
Well we did re-visit the USC with our USC Lam video but once again the weather was a bit pants wasn't it? We may give it another look.
Cometa scope rails are a bit short but they do have arrestor slots built in. To be fair I didn't have any issue with scope creep.
Thanks Hendrick!
Many thanks, Dan ! Very good info again !!!
You're too hard on yourself Dan! Both of those groups at 25 yards are great for offhand groups! All kill shots I would think!
Sure two went through one.
Far too many times you're backlit and I can't see you or the gun 😢
You got caught out 2 or 3 times with the safety.....that's why i hate automatic safety's.
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Go buy yourself a weihrauch and live happily ever after
Weihrauch are cracking rifles but I think you're underestimating Cometa. They'll also give you a lifetime warranty which Weihrauch will not do themselves. That's a huge win for Cometa.
Talk less Shoot more.Thankyou,just my opinion.Be Blessed
As soon as I heard plastic, that was it ....not buying.
How much Velocity .22 pellets 20 grains?
Sure two went through one.