That hand jointer you are holding is called a dummy jointer. It's made to make dummy joints, more or less for looks only. I personally have 1/2" jointers I use. By doing what your doing you are actually weakening the concrete slab in general. My advice is just saw cut and pick up a nice V wheel to pretty them up with a day or 2 after you pour.
I have MANY times used the spin screed chairs and 1/4×2 steel for control joints in thick slabs. You just grease the steel good and pull them out right before final pass with steel trowel
Not completely sure I understand the question but if it is just a color change you are after I would think a good quality paint might be a good approach. I am sure you can find something with a concrete color and could possibly even texture it to have somewhat of a concrete pattern.
your concrete pad looks awesome. it keeps growing and spreading like it's alive haha. maybe it will wrap itself around the sides of your house one day.
My guess is the concrete company will come back tomorrow to cut in the control joints in the concrete driveway. They can be cut in if not grooved in during the pour process, however the cuts should be made as soon as possible.
Thank you for the comment, I assumed the structures were deep enough in the concrete that they would likely not be seen even if there was a crack. Will see what happens over time, so far so good.
Or you could have just poured the whole thing the same thickness and left the joint groove out... That's not a big slab. I've done dozens that size and haven't had any of them crack, and I'm driving a crew cab Silverado on them regularly.
I do concrete for a living that idea doesn't work no need to put a piece of wood in the concrete because it'll rotten and be even weaker, that's why you have your hand jointer give it one pass to open it and then a second when its hard enough for that one last pass
Thanks for the concrete tool tip. Looks like the concrete control joints shown in the video are performing well. I have noticed there is a crack along one of the grove lines thus far.
Haha he has no experience clearly the concrete has already set that is why you had to stamp the tool into it. You should be able to drag it like a edger….🤦♂️
Not a good idea. You are separating each piece concrete, making the entire structure weaker. Sure you control the cracks, on a tiny piece of sidewalk, but now you created an opportunity for shifting and settling because it’s no longer one piece. Would not recommend
In this application, I actually preferred the overall concrete patio to be broken up into sections. If for some reason if one concrete section is stressed in the future from something like a growing tree root or elevation change the surrounding concrete sections will not be impacted.
That hand jointer you are holding is called a dummy jointer.
It's made to make dummy joints, more or less for looks only.
I personally have 1/2" jointers I use.
By doing what your doing you are actually weakening the concrete slab in general.
My advice is just saw cut and pick up a nice V wheel to pretty them up with a day or 2 after you pour.
Thanks for your inputs
I agree with you.
I have MANY times used the spin screed chairs and 1/4×2 steel for control joints in thick slabs.
You just grease the steel good and pull them out right before final pass with steel trowel
Thanks for sharing the tips. The steel plate for concrete control joints sounds like a great practice.
I always enjoy your tips!
Thanks as always Glen, Bring your gloves for the retaining wall project!!
Concrete will attach in top of paint.? Is for my chiminey I painted White now I wantes concreate look. Chimney is made rock s???
Not completely sure I understand the question but if it is just a color change you are after I would think a good quality paint might be a good approach. I am sure you can find something with a concrete color and could possibly even texture it to have somewhat of a concrete pattern.
your concrete pad looks awesome. it keeps growing and spreading like it's alive haha. maybe it will wrap itself around the sides of your house one day.
Thanks Chris, I think the concrete patio has steadied its growth rate however now we may be doing a retaining wall or a terrace configuration.
My driveway doesn't have any control joints and was poured today. It is fairly large. Is this normal?
My guess is the concrete company will come back tomorrow to cut in the control joints in the concrete driveway. They can be cut in if not grooved in during the pour process, however the cuts should be made as soon as possible.
@@MrKistel ok thank you for the reply. I'll keep an eye on it. Hopefully tomorrow
@@usheringtaurine5158 did they go back and cut them or did they take your money and run?
But, when it does crack it will be visible. The normal method hides the crack
Thank you for the comment, I assumed the structures were deep enough in the concrete that they would likely not be seen even if there was a crack. Will see what happens over time, so far so good.
Or you could have just poured the whole thing the same thickness and left the joint groove out... That's not a big slab. I've done dozens that size and haven't had any of them crack, and I'm driving a crew cab Silverado on them regularly.
if I thought I could have mixed the concrete fast enough I might have done that.
As a concreter for 44 years that's not how you do it pass the dummy joint then saw cut it the next day
Seems like the saw cut concrete joints are the cleaner way to go
I do concrete for a living that idea doesn't work no need to put a piece of wood in the concrete because it'll rotten and be even weaker, that's why you have your hand jointer give it one pass to open it and then a second when its hard enough for that one last pass
Thanks for the concrete installation tip. The inserts seem to be working well for this concrete patio,
Sorry bud this video on concrete was not your fortay
Respectfully thats a cheap groover. 304 or 305 kraft groover will make it crack. That toy groover u have is trash. Respectfully..
Thanks for the concrete tool tip. Looks like the concrete control joints shown in the video are performing well. I have noticed there is a crack along one of the grove lines thus far.
Haha he has no experience clearly the concrete has already set that is why you had to stamp the tool into it. You should be able to drag it like a edger….🤦♂️
Not a good idea. You are separating each piece concrete, making the entire structure weaker. Sure you control the cracks, on a tiny piece of sidewalk, but now you created an opportunity for shifting and settling because it’s no longer one piece. Would not recommend
In this application, I actually preferred the overall concrete patio to be broken up into sections. If for some reason if one concrete section is stressed in the future from something like a growing tree root or elevation change the surrounding concrete sections will not be impacted.
You must have never worked with concrete eh