Best Class D Speaker Amp - But Is it Worth It? SMSL SA400 Speaker Amp Review

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  • @cheapaudioman
    @cheapaudioman  2 года назад +6

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  • @bobbytaco2424
    @bobbytaco2424 2 года назад +2

    Been running a Starke AD4.320 with a Schitt Saga preamp. Replaced my Adcom 5500 amp and was amazed. My Vandersteen Model 3's and 2 CE signatures don't need a sub anymore. Really opened them up. Class D has really surprised me.

  • @heathmccorkle4631
    @heathmccorkle4631 2 года назад +2

    I have had this amp for almost two months now. Paired it with it’s sibling M400 DAC, Quad S2s, and a single SVS SB1000 Pro (thank RUclips reviewers). In a carefully arranged smaller room, it’s blown me and all my audio-enthusiast friends away. I use it 70/30 music/movies in my home office. I rarely find myself in the larger media room of late. The amp was a bit of gamble when I bought it with not a ton of info out there, but after having it awhile, I’m not surprised it’s popping up on my RUclips heroes radar. Thanks for the review and sanity check Randy!

    • @anthony2010707
      @anthony2010707 2 года назад

      Hello Heath, what do you think of how hot it gets?

    • @heathmccorkle4631
      @heathmccorkle4631 2 года назад

      @@anthony2010707 Still going strong with no issues. It’s playing background music in my office all day. I did go into the secret menu and lowered the temp trigger for the fan just in case. The fan could be a little quieter, it’s small and is audible when sitting a few feet away at low volume.

  • @chrisAclaes
    @chrisAclaes 2 года назад +6

    Spot on. It’s hard to justify that price for a brand that isn’t established yet.

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 2 года назад +5

    Thanks Randy for another honest review! I do see SMSL trying to up the ante with the competition, but for $650 there are way too many options! Although in the end... the consumer wins!

  • @odwatchguy
    @odwatchguy 2 года назад +3

    Great review Randy. I was not expecting this to be so highly rated and compared to some really well know equipment. I guess that goes to the comparison of pricing and where it should be. Thanks

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад +1

      check Patreon. I sent you a message

  • @g.johnson9901
    @g.johnson9901 2 года назад +3

    This is a great little amp, comparable with $1000 to $1500 class A/B integrateds. I listened with KEF LS 50’s. Great value for the sound quality. The amp is clean and open, with no harshness. The heat is a non-issue, just set the fan to 45C, and the case is only slightly warm.

  • @philm6674
    @philm6674 2 года назад +2

    I had two SMSL amps. Both suffered from QC issues, volume chip on one, speaker terminals pulling out in the other. $650 makes me take pause. Thank you for the info! Great video

    • @scottlowell493
      @scottlowell493 11 месяцев назад

      Same for Topping, which has the lowest reliability and highest DOA rate on the market. Customer service is almost nonexistent.

  • @freezingCode
    @freezingCode 2 года назад +3

    I just built my first budget system after watching a ton of your videos. Ended up with the SMSL SA300 + Chromecast Audio + Neumi BS5's + JBL 550P sub. I then converted a spare Raspberry Pi into a Volumio machine and have been using that to stream local music from my NAS as well as act as my Spotify Connect device.
    Already looking for the next step. Don't have any major complaints with the sounds; I feel like the Neumi's have a dip in a certain part of the midrange that I only notice in a very few particular songs. I think my next step may just be replacing the SA300 with something a bit nicer that can apply a high pass to the bookshelves.

    • @Stevef2234
      @Stevef2234 2 года назад +1

      Wow, now thats a cool setup

  • @m3ntalify
    @m3ntalify 2 года назад

    Great content. Thank you for adding levity to audiophile... stuffing. :)

  • @peterrichard6988
    @peterrichard6988 2 года назад +1

    Great review and I agree with the comment that for this price and power, most will go with a more established brand 's A/B. I bought a Hypex Ncore NC252MP Class D amp from Audiphonics in France, 250W into 4 ohms and quality is top tier, with shipping it came out to about $750 Canadian. Small and light, not too much heat, you won't get near to that quality and power in class a/b for that price. I use a Marantz 2-channel receiver's preamp outs as my preamp so I still have a substantial Marantz in my rack with remote so it doesn't look too dinky. So my point is, go up a little bit in the Class D options for quality and power and you get into a good sweet spot, paired with a quality preamp with remote and you have super value and quality right there!

  • @dcmphoto7437
    @dcmphoto7437 2 года назад +6

    I don't mind class D amplifiers at all. If they have the soundstage and instrument separation, awesome. You're spot on about the price vs. brand reputation. But honestly, I've spent a lot on some big names and been disappointed, so why not try something new?

  • @MrRonnmaui
    @MrRonnmaui 2 года назад

    Thanks Randy, great review on the amp. Looks like a really nice amp. I bought a XTZ A-2 300 and am really impressed with it, but this one has a lot more features. Worth considering for sure, Thanks.

  • @act.13.41
    @act.13.41 2 года назад +5

    I think the Swiffer mop and liquid would make a good audiophile product. You know a clean floor is going to sound so much better without sawdust muddying up the sound.

    • @AndyBHome
      @AndyBHome 2 года назад

      I think the big issue is that people aren't even aware of *embedded* sawdust that you just can't get out of your wood, tile, or even vinyl flooring with non-audiophile floor cleaning products. Audiophile cleaning products remove sawdust that can't be measured with our current scientific knowledge, but you can DEFINITELY hear the difference. A truly audiophile floor cleaning will give you way cleaner sounding lows. It will greatly improve your noise floor too.

  • @doifeellucky
    @doifeellucky 2 года назад +4

    Happy with my Sabaj A10a for £120 for use in my office connected to a Zen DAC V2 from my PC.

  • @davida8682
    @davida8682 2 года назад

    I loved the grin after the Babbabooey homage.

  • @DougMen1
    @DougMen1 2 года назад

    Damn Randy! You're really cranking out new vidoes at breakneck speed! I can barely keep up. At what point do you run out of space for amps, DACs, headphones, and speakers, and have to buy a bigger house, build a storage shed in the backyard, or rent a storage space?

  • @noahman27
    @noahman27 2 года назад +2

    would be so nice if integrated amps had processor loops so i could connect my DBX Driverack PA2 (EQ, Parametric EQ also, sub harmonics, etc). Cuz I like to tweak!!! Also, for goodness sake, why does it not give you a high pass option when you run it with a sub. So frustrating. BTW, Randy, love this channel. Thank you for doing such great work.

  • @clarencehoover6748
    @clarencehoover6748 2 года назад +1

    Brought to you by Sith Audio Class A Dryer Vent Brush. When you don’t mind the heat and deserve nothing but the very best!

  • @christian2123
    @christian2123 2 года назад +1

    Nice review. I agree I think at that price point it needs just a little more somethin somethin. One or two more unbalanced inputs and an HDMI input would make this very compelling.

  • @RoyFJ65
    @RoyFJ65 10 месяцев назад

    I will be getting my first class D to add to my collection of Yamaha PC2002, P2200, MX-1 amps, wonder how they will sound with my NS-1000m but thanks to you will venture into it and find out. I have been using SMSL Sanskrit on my desktop with my HS7/HS8s combo and have been quite satisfied with the sound and now I upgraded to SU-1 thanks to your review.

  • @dgregory4178
    @dgregory4178 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if this has a high pass crossover on the speaker outputs when using a sub? I think this would be great amp if so.

  • @jordyvaneeken7462
    @jordyvaneeken7462 2 года назад

    Hi Randy, love your channel. Just want to inform you that the tabebuia eq setting is designed for the SMSL tabebuia speakers.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      well it sounds pretty good on other speakers too

  • @davidfairchild1640
    @davidfairchild1640 2 года назад +2

    I bought class D monoblocks from Nuprime and am very happy with them.

  • @brucemibus9523
    @brucemibus9523 2 года назад

    Been using class D amps for almost 10 years. Started with Rotel 1091, 500W 8ohm, B&O modules with switch mode supply. Bit bright, but totally effortless. Then went to Bel Canto uses same modules but standard psu. Different sound, much smoother and better midrange. Have now only used D class for bass units in a tri amped system. Recent class D sounds are improved, Mola Mola for instance, design by Bruno Putzeys, really good. Now use AB amps for mid and treble, Harmon Kardon Signature amps. Might be old, but still cut the mustard. PSU design is great, similar to the HK 8500 AVR but each amp board in this 5 channel has it’s own rectifier and filter caps. Used Krell 700W class A , with electrostatic speakers it is magic!

    • @Stevef2234
      @Stevef2234 2 года назад

      What is a good amp that is used for under $800?

    • @brucemibus9523
      @brucemibus9523 2 года назад +1

      @@Stevef2234 I am Australian, possibly not relevant for pricing from here. The HK signature amps are about half that price here, have nothing but good words. Second hand Rotel class AB from 90s to 2005 are great too. That price should get you something quite respectable. Wouldn't buy Emotiva sh.

  • @patricknieles3536
    @patricknieles3536 2 года назад

    Thank you for the excellent review (as usual). Now I am keen on buying a D-Class amp in the price bracket upto 300 $.
    My DAC/Streamer currently is a Arylic S50 Pro + and my question would be if you would recommend the SMSL DA9 or the Loxjie A30 ?
    I understand that the SMSL is more powerful but soundwise is there a big difference. I was planning to connect the amp to a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220 speakers.
    Your input woould ne greatly appreciated.

  • @jdlech
    @jdlech 2 года назад +6

    Class D engineering is really coming into it's own this past decade. And I predict that it will become the preferred home theater amp class in about 10 years. And it could possibly become the preferred audiophile class 20 or 30 years out.

    • @heron6462
      @heron6462 2 года назад +1

      Completely agree. I started with a NuForce DDA-120 (50 W) about nine years ago; I was very impressed at the time, but it sounds rather skeletal now compared to my current PS Audio Stellar S300. Both are Class D but the PS Audio sounds almost tube-like. I think that Class D has already reached the top audiophile level and that the next 20 - 30 years will bring only minor improvements.

    • @rickyblair8802
      @rickyblair8802 2 года назад

      It’s not gonna take that long

  • @emarshallp
    @emarshallp 2 года назад

    XTZ a300?????? I read several reviews, good ones. Excelent video as always !!!!!! Thanks Randy. Greetings from Argentina!

  • @stephenstevens6573
    @stephenstevens6573 2 года назад +4

    Dont sell the Crown short either, Randy...I know you said you didn't care much for it, but I swear to you, with my Maggie's? Its magical..

  • @Roof_Pizza
    @Roof_Pizza 2 года назад +7

    Someone told me to put rice in my speaker stands to deaden them, unfortunately they forgot to tell me to use uncooked rice. Took me a week to figure out where the rotting smell was coming from. I'd imagine it's the same with speaker stuffing.

    • @9mmmike642
      @9mmmike642 2 года назад +1

      Audiophile Cotton Candy has a decent shelf life for speaker filling.

  • @mikeday62
    @mikeday62 2 года назад +1

    I prefer bass and treble controls to presets. Toss in a midrange control and you're golden.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад +1

      It has all of that in addition to the baked eq's

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 2 года назад

    Any thoughts on how well this would work with say the Schiit Freya pre-amp? Never mind, too expensive.

  • @ltlai9465
    @ltlai9465 2 года назад

    Any chance to try their SP400 as Preamp together with SA400 as Poweramp, wonder how would they sound when in pre + power combo setup.

  • @ogogogogogog
    @ogogogogogog 2 года назад +1

    My current speaker are the Jamo s807s and the recommended wattage (i think) was 100w at 8 ohms. I was using the sa300 but I was getting a lot of noise and it just didn't get loud enough for me(If I remember correctly it was 40w at 8 ohms). This compared to the da-9 meets that 100w at 8ohms while the da-9 is only 50w at 8 ohms. Does it make sense to pay nearly $700 for that power or be underpowered with the da-9? I'm like big new to the audio world so all the help I can get I'll take 😅

  • @souravmajee4887
    @souravmajee4887 2 года назад +2

    The beauty of class D amplifier is it's fit into a small case and power consumption is ultra low compared to class AB amplifier. Class D is very efficient and doesn't heat up like the alternatives. Love class D

    • @AudioGuyBrian
      @AudioGuyBrian 2 года назад +1

      Unless you live in a Tiny Home or tree house even the heat from a high power Class A amp is not enough to even notice unless you put your ice cream right on top of the amp and could watch it slowly melt.

    • @lisar3944
      @lisar3944 9 месяцев назад

      the power consumption topic is so key (for some of us at least). I have the da9 and it pulls 2-5 watts during regular use in a mid size room, at reasonable volume for an apartment dweller. I'm reading reviews of "good" a/b amps and reading rave reviews that "it only consumes 25 watts when idle!" and I simply cannot comprehend how people afford their electricity bills :D (then again I'm in Germany where electricity is substantially more expensive, especially since the Ukraine invasion began) I *can* afford it but do I want to? Not really convinced this is a good use of resources. The small footprint is also a key factor as, you know, I live in an apartment (which is not large).

  • @darkpatches
    @darkpatches 2 года назад +2

    CAM: The Ted Lasso of cheap audio.

  • @snowrang3r657
    @snowrang3r657 2 года назад +2

    Great point of SMSL being like KIA. One thing they could do to help their image is probably come up with a better remote design, at least for the $500+ products, the A/B/C buttons don't help the image IMO.

  • @SovincPeter
    @SovincPeter 2 года назад +4

    We are coming to a point where DAC and amplification are getting near perfect. Active speakers are the next logical step. Having properly assigned amplification to each individual driver is the future. Digital crossover can be tuned to a perfection. The main reason for this not happening more than it is - is the money that can be made selling DACs and amplification.

  • @dazzlerweb
    @dazzlerweb 2 года назад +2

    waiting for an SA500 to pair with the M500

  • @johnmorgan6724
    @johnmorgan6724 Год назад

    . . . move over Swanson . . .
    - nice visuals, Randy .

  • @davidturner1721
    @davidturner1721 2 года назад

    I would ove to see you review the Topping PA5. It measured very well on ASR and I wonder how it compares.

  • @waldoyew4247
    @waldoyew4247 Год назад

    Does this get hot when using xlr connection or only when you use passive speakers

  • @jjavalon
    @jjavalon 2 года назад +2

    Tabebuia is the name of SMSL made speakers. I’d like to try a pair of those

  • @grantmiller6002
    @grantmiller6002 2 года назад

    Looking for a good amp for Polk R100 for nearfield listening to replace my D30 + PA3, would you recommend the SA400 or Maybe Aiyima combo or cambridge? Thanks!

  • @jojips8344
    @jojips8344 2 года назад

    Hai Randy🙋‍♂️
    Can you make a review for top five integrated amplifier 😁

  • @matthewhilty4209
    @matthewhilty4209 2 года назад

    I think you right on with telling us your thoughts about hi-end SMSL , You say it sounds great and is worth the 660 dollar price and I believe you but in my head I still think of Marantz, Yamaha or Parasound as my go to for mid priced stereo amps. SMSL is not a name I associate with quality reliable gear.

  • @xukenny1002
    @xukenny1002 2 года назад

    How does this amp compare to the emotiva basX a2 power amp? does it sound much better or about even?

  • @pavlo687
    @pavlo687 Год назад

    So, I have a question... if an amp, any amp, has USB, OPT, or COA inputs (which are digital), would it not then have to have some kind of DAC built in? I would want to be make sure I could bypass any built in DAC before I would want to buy an amp if I'm understand this correctly?

  • @balooo2863
    @balooo2863 2 года назад

    A very balanced review and the price mention is right on the money (pun intended).
    The SA400 is priced in the same ballpark as the Sonos Amp which has more power and more features,mind you some would say they serve different purposes but not really. Most folks stream SA400 cannot,the Amp can be hooked up to a phono or CD player what I am missing here? I have not listened to the SA400 so hopefully it is better sounding by a lot to justify the price.
    BTW I own a Sonos Amp and SH-9 headphone amp and extremely happy with both.

    • @monksalve
      @monksalve Год назад

      Sonos Amp has unavoidable latency, otherwise a a great amp.

    • @balooo2863
      @balooo2863 Год назад

      @@monksalve The latency is intentional to ensure multiple rooms/units staying perfectly synced. I've never had issues with the SQ because of the latency, common dig that does not mean anything in real use of the product.If used with a TV the latency can be ajusted to sync perfectly with your TV IF that is an issue in your system the settings are there most folks simply don't know how to use them.

  • @fuckugimmeausername
    @fuckugimmeausername Год назад

    Hi! Could you see something like this driving a Sonus Faber Lumina 2s?

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo 2 года назад

    Might be super cool if they could be bridged and run as monos

  • @mickeystewart4504
    @mickeystewart4504 2 года назад +3

    I use a couple of Crown xls 1502's class D and I prefer them over my 200 watt Emotiva and 170 watt Parasound.

    • @jamesbennett1634
      @jamesbennett1634 2 года назад

      I continue to be impressed by my crown xls 1002. Really like it, especially with lively speakers.

    • @mickeystewart4504
      @mickeystewart4504 2 года назад

      @@robertdevoy3119 make sure you ground components together(each other) and you have a good ground to earth. Hope this helps.

  • @francisdelacruz6439
    @francisdelacruz6439 2 года назад +1

    Build quality matters at this price. It should look it's price and SMSL looks like a cheaper option not the premium one. When maybe SMSL looks really expensive it can then compete in the higher price points.

  • @nunonobrega5090
    @nunonobrega5090 2 года назад

    Hi Randy and friends, I just ordered my Smsl Ho200 Amp and Smsl Do200 Dac, I could use some advice in what speakers do you recommend for this combo. It's for my desk so, size matters 😂 300€/$ top price also. My current headphone is the Sennheiser 599SE, and for gaming it's doing an average job, but I would love to get more imaging and soundstage, what is your recommendation for this features ? Price range up to 300€/$ also. Thank you for all and keep blasting this channel, you are awesome! Happy New Year!!!, filled with health and happiness.😉

  • @brentgaynor5232
    @brentgaynor5232 Год назад

    What is the crossover of the sw out? Nobody mentions this.

  • @francescotenti193
    @francescotenti193 2 года назад +2

    Priced at $600.00, 100 WPC, endless connectivity and controls, good looking and great sounding, I believe the Cambridge AXR 100 is a better choice, at least in my opinion.
    Time will tell if the SMSL will follow the success of the Korean car companies.

  • @jdm-uk-yank
    @jdm-uk-yank 2 года назад

    How would you compare this to the PS Audio Sprout 100?

  • @naastradamus
    @naastradamus 2 года назад

    Thanks Randy! Which amplifier would you rank better for soundstage+imaging between the Schiit Vidar and the Akitika you built? I just replaced my Elac Unifi 2.0's with some Wharfedale Lintons (90db & 6ohms with dips down to 3.5ohms). The new speakers are amazing but I'm looking to regain some of that magic Elac soundstage if I can. Looking to upgrade from my Aiyima A07 w/48V 7a PSU. It's fantastic, but you've got me thinking about the potential soundstage improvement via amplifier. Thanks!

  • @saedamad
    @saedamad 2 года назад

    Good morning from Singapore

  • @ar_xiv
    @ar_xiv 2 года назад

    Tabebuia or whatever is the name of their mini monitors, curious about those things

  • @mr.b4444
    @mr.b4444 2 года назад

    Great review Randy. This seems like a good unit but I have to say that I've been disappointed with SMSL. I own the DP5 streamer/media player. It sounds great but it has a crappy screen that doesn't show full album art. If you use this unit for playing FLAC files from a SSD as I do, the navigation is stinks and relies on a 3rd party app Hiby which is buggy as hell to navigate with. Their support acts like they don't understand you. I wish I could return the unit but overall it sounds good and the price was fair at $630 while other units that do the same thing cost way more.

  • @TomPalissade
    @TomPalissade 2 года назад

    Hi, I have been following you for a while, I enjoyed the arguments choices. I bought a Aiyma T9 and a pair of ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2. I have one question. would it be worth it to try either an Elac ELAC - Debut Reference DBR62 or an ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52 with that amp? Would the difference be significant? French here

    • @lisar3944
      @lisar3944 9 месяцев назад

      I would be interested in the answer to this one as I already have the DBR62's. I am considering an upgrade to my da9 and just not having any luck finding a class D that sounds better (yet).

  • @endrizo
    @endrizo Год назад

    have you reviewed the A2 model ??

  • @souravmajee4887
    @souravmajee4887 2 года назад

    Does it support 6 ohm or 8 ohm output. I didn't see any ratings on 8 ohm or 6 ohm output capability!!! It's says 4 ohm 230 watt output!!!!

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB 2 года назад

    sdb is a personal favorite

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 2 года назад +1

    I recall really liking a SMSL 400 DAC. A stack partner for the amp? Maybe if it sounds better than the built in.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      it just has bluetooth, Jim so no traditional dac. I'm sure there's a matching DAC i just havent seen it.

    • @fletchermunson6225
      @fletchermunson6225 2 года назад +1

      @@cheapaudioman I actually preferred it to the Ares but it was also expensive as I recall about $700. That said, things move on and at a used price I think it would be a killer deal. A Christmas present to old No. 1. Ones 😅self.

  • @kimbalxyz2
    @kimbalxyz2 2 года назад

    I agree with you about the price and how people view the company. If they would drop the price to $400-450 and get these into peoples hands, that could open the door for them.

  • @amazoidal
    @amazoidal 2 года назад

    I got a Parasound 2350 demo from Audio Advisor for less than $900. 600 x 2 really gets my two pairs of ELAC B6.2 thumping. Parts Express has a new high power Class D amp (1200 watts for $700) called the Dayton Audio APA1200DSP. When's the review on this?

  • @neilfisher7999
    @neilfisher7999 2 года назад +20

    I think class D amplification has gotten so much better that it compares extremely well with class A/B these days. I was a little skeptical at first, but I bought a Rogue Audio Hybrid Integrated amp which is class D amplification with a tube preamp section. It sounds amazing. It is $1500 so it isn't cheap by any means, but I compare it to expensive class A/B offerings from many of the Big Boy names in Audio at $2000 to $4000 and it holds its own very well. So it doesn't surprise me that there are class D amps out there in the $500 - $750 price range that sound extremely good.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 2 года назад +1

      SVS Soundbase sounds incredibly clean, and solid. Good across the entire range.

    • @AudioGuyBrian
      @AudioGuyBrian 2 года назад +1

      I'll bet I could build a class D amp for under $100 with nearly the same specs.

    • @neilfisher7999
      @neilfisher7999 2 года назад +7

      @@AudioGuyBrian okay, so go into business and start selling them. I bake some really good cookies, better than store bought. Lol!

    • @francisdelacruz6439
      @francisdelacruz6439 2 года назад

      Class D still has a sound that differs from AB amps. You can say the same with AB amps when you have tube in the chain and says it's even better. Less is usually better and rather than tube masking class d shortcomings maybe they should redesign class D to sound better to begin with. Price though very tempting.

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 2 года назад

      @@francisdelacruz6439 SVS nailed this one, it is worth the entry price.

  • @stevenveerhoff9208
    @stevenveerhoff9208 2 года назад

    At 650, how would this compare to the NAD D 3020 v2?

  • @nuttyl283
    @nuttyl283 2 года назад

    how about comparison with LM3886 very cheap amp 68w?

  • @pavlo687
    @pavlo687 Год назад

    Randy, you should affiliate with some coffee company so you can do ads for them! Since I found you, I've been drinking TWICE as much coffee!!

  • @endrizo
    @endrizo 11 месяцев назад

    should chech SMSL VMV top of the line 1000 dollars A2 class D amp. thanks

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 11 месяцев назад

    I have a DA-9 on my desktop, which makes my passive speakers into great powered speakers for a fraction of the cost. The SMSL amps represent the near future of audio. Small, efficient and powerful amps. Soon, class a/b will go the way of class A. D has a little way to go, but it will get there.
    Also, when you buy a Vidar, it's just am amp...nothing else. The SMSL is everything in one.

  • @4thewinir344
    @4thewinir344 2 года назад +2

    As one of those ‘new’ Kia customers…NOT lovin life as you describe. Wife bought a ‘20 Telluride in ‘19 with have put over 50k and already had it in shop to replace cv joints, AWD transmission slipping when accelerating into a turn or incline, high beams haven’t operated for months, washer fluid hose became disconnected and sprayed onto engine…Much prefer the well-built Mazdas I’ve owned - from a company that has been around a lot longer.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      Swing and a miss on that analogy. I’m sorry for your car issues.

  • @dudiflug3804
    @dudiflug3804 2 года назад

    I have a hard time deciding I bought the SMSL DA9 and the right channel does not work I have no power to send it back to China and be without any amplifier at all so I am thinking of ordering the SA400 but I'm scared ... my speakers are paradigm studio 40 v3

  • @TheHope12322
    @TheHope12322 2 года назад

    I like external power supplies in case it goes out.

  • @ltlai9465
    @ltlai9465 2 года назад

    Hi Randy, what do you think when this amplifier match with their own M400 DAC and the Denafrips Ares II?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад +1

      I don't have the M400. It was a great match with the Denafrips. I had to use some of the internal EQ to get the sound just right

    • @ltlai9465
      @ltlai9465 2 года назад

      @@cheapaudioman great to hear that, will arrange to go my friend shop and request him to setup the similar system: SMSL SA400 + Denafrips Ares II + Elac 😄

  • @billyhowell2010
    @billyhowell2010 2 года назад

    Sprout100 has equivalent power. I paid $699. It has a DAC built-in. And the remote is milled aluminum.

  • @RanTausi
    @RanTausi 2 года назад +1

    Watching first. have a nice weekend Randy

  • @08jamu
    @08jamu 2 года назад

    Tabebuia is SMSL's passive speaker lineup.

  • @roberthart9886
    @roberthart9886 2 года назад

    Have you compared it to the LSA Warp-1 @$1099?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      I have not. Although I would like to

  • @SyzygyNoon
    @SyzygyNoon 2 года назад

    I remember when I bought my Xbox 360 on day-one in 2005, and $300 seemed like a lot of money. That was the threshold (for me) in regards to a normalization of what I thought of as almost too much. Now, it seems like $300 is kind of the starting point, and $600 is the sweet-spot. Am I Mugatu?

  • @user-wp1ir3et2u
    @user-wp1ir3et2u 2 года назад

    Hi Randy . Just because power is not everything this amp is not that competitive at 600 USD.[600 euros in France]I 'd like to have your opinion on the new TOPPING PA 3 S [150 euros in France]Thanks in advance and keep up the good work .

  • @georgemiller8329
    @georgemiller8329 2 года назад +1

    I cook my audiophile stuffing on top of my tube amp!

  • @StonedRambo01
    @StonedRambo01 2 года назад +2

    Yeah at that price I'd go elsewhere. Great review

  • @08jamu
    @08jamu 2 года назад

    Can it drive speaker with recommended amplifier power of 50-125 watt per channel @4 ohm without causing any damage!!!!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      Yeah. Just don’t turn it up too much

  • @Yiannis2112
    @Yiannis2112 2 года назад

    With Yamaha, Cambridge Audio, NAD, Vincent and of course Rotel, all having amps at this price, its hard to persuade someone to get this instead.

  • @garyarnold5699
    @garyarnold5699 2 года назад

    How do you compare the sound (not features) to Schiit Vidar/Aegir?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      I haven’t heard the Aegier yet. It’s hard to make a direct comparison because of the EQ settings the 400 has. I think the Vidar with a Loki or lokius wins but then it’s more expensive too

    • @garyarnold5699
      @garyarnold5699 2 года назад

      @@cheapaudioman thanks for the reply. I just returned a Ragnarok2 (that I really liked) to get a Frey+ and Vidar or Aegir. This little SMSL sa400 is real interesting. With eq setting do you feel it may sound better than Vidar without eq?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад

      @@garyarnold5699 no. The “direct” mode isn’t Quite up to par with the Vidar. They’re getting closer though

  • @therealboofighter
    @therealboofighter 2 года назад +1

    At what price point does something become no longer “cheap”. Also what is the bottom of being “Hifi”. Asking as a noob.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  2 года назад +1

      Hifi is whatever you want it to be, brother. I love the Aiyima A07 which is $80. Many great options available that sound great. I don't put a label on anything. As long as you enjoy music through it, it's hifi

  • @robh9079
    @robh9079 2 года назад

    I don't think you've reviewed Sith Audio's Soylent Green yet - Charlton Heston Approved

    • @takeiteasy6154
      @takeiteasy6154 2 года назад +1

      That's a great film, underrated, audiophile soundtrack!

  • @ThecrosseyedTexan
    @ThecrosseyedTexan 2 года назад +3

    This thing is pressed excessively considering the amount of class a b amplifiers that are out there. I don't see them selling a lot of these at least not to me LOL

  • @Mometic
    @Mometic Год назад +1

    I bought it. It's hard to find this clean of amp with this much wattage at a price point under $1,000. I was looking at wireless active speakers, but really couldn't find something that had this much power to really give me some punch. I combined this with my PSB CS1000 speakers for a weight room and am really blown away with the imaging and punch. Very clean, very airy combination and while I wanted AMT tweeters I'm happy with the amp and titanium tweeters for those clean highs

  • @wheezin_the_juice
    @wheezin_the_juice 2 года назад

    They really need a few more features like hi-pass, a streamer & better EQ/balance controls for this market point they want to be in or drop the price to $400ish and throat punch errybody til their gear & designs are ready to stomp the hi-end world
    I got a steal on a good pair of towers(JBL580s) & with my very limited budget($4-500ish) for now I'm still waiting to find a nice int-amp so I can enjoy'm. The markets sooo close to being there, but it's tuff as I've been lookin at them in a box for a yr now & I don't know/trust 2nd hand market yet. The price jump on new TA1 puts that on edge but it still don't tick enough boxes at msrp. Somebody will fill that market void soon 🤞🏼😅

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 2 года назад

      I would not want my streamer in the same box as my power amp. Not a recipe for good sound....

  • @chutgowdingo-loon3212
    @chutgowdingo-loon3212 2 года назад

    Tabebuia .... Hallelujah !!!!

  • @dillonquackenbush3895
    @dillonquackenbush3895 2 года назад +1

    I’m hungry so Sith Audio stuffing sounds good. Buh dum tss.

  • @wojciechczupta
    @wojciechczupta 2 года назад

    I bet Behringer A800 is the king of cheap class D. It costs 250 bucks and outputs 400 W into 4 Ohms... and OMG it delivers with tough speakers. I can't believe there is anything that can beat it at even 500 usd new if high power is required.

  • @robertgruber982
    @robertgruber982 2 года назад +1

    Had a 60 or 80 watt per channel Rotel class A/B integrated that people raved about. Cost probably close to a $1000 in the early 2000's. It was driving a pair of 4 ohm Swan Diva 4.1 speakers. Never sounded as good as it should have to my ears. Bought a Crown XLS 1002 after watching some RUclips videos and it blew me away how much better it sounded. Speakers finally woke up and the proverbial veil was lifted. Ended up with an XTZ A2-300 which was bit more refined than the Crown. Put a $30 chinese tube preamp in front of it and it sounds fantastic. Class D is a wonder for power starved speakers. I think it's funny that every Class D review on the internet starts with "it doesn't sound like Class D"...

  • @freezingCode
    @freezingCode 2 года назад +1

    These journeys we go on together are costly.

  • @westsider1442
    @westsider1442 2 года назад +2

    I've been hearing great reviews about class D amps. I was set on buying a class AB but I think I might actually buy a class D one.

    • @AudioGuyBrian
      @AudioGuyBrian 2 года назад +1

      Class A/B Sounds better.

    • @overnightdelivery
      @overnightdelivery 2 года назад +1

      @@AudioGuyBrian I was skeptical about D sounding any different than AB, as I'd used D for over 10 years and it sounded fine. Then I recently did a comparison of a modern D and an old AB on the same set of speakers. The old AB was night and day better across the board. I couldn't believe it. The AB literally sounded 20Hz deeper in the Bass department and Treble sounded cleaner too. Changing Bass and Treble did not improve the sound quality either. I'm afraid inferior stuff is getting pushed just because it's cheaper for manufacturers to make, while selling for the same price and making huge profits.

    • @cb2000a
      @cb2000a 2 года назад +2

      A good class D amp sounds amazing. And they don't have to cost a ton of money. I would rather have a good system that gives me true sound at a lower volume level than one that blows your ears off and causes listening fatigue.