Are you the type of person that never puts a hole in the wrong place? Well now you can with the new haas umc 750 ss. Just place your part in the right place and the haas software will automatically miscalculate your datums.
You talk about lean, but your tool oaths return to safety each time when you rotate?? Wastes alot of time no? If the cycle time is no issue then that's fine but I would of thought parts want to be on and off the machine as quick as possible.
@@mannycalavera121 I can understand that on the first post. The fat should be removed as part of proofing a program, production job or not. It's a CNC machine. It repeats to tenths. If it runs once it will run that way indefinitely.
The hierarchy of improvements in lean is Safety, Quality, Simplicity, Speed. Trading safety for speed means you'll never get caught off guard if you start in the middle of a program, slightly miss an offset, etc. Rapiding to Z8. vs Z3. is mere seconds added to the cycle time and not worth compromising safety or process reliability.
I'm curious - There's allot of double rapid moves or rapid moves which don't seem necessary, is that straight out of fusion doing that? I think you could shave allot of time removing those moves without pushing the tools harder
You guys have to try the quick disconnect from Prevost, they're self-venting, so they're really quick, and easy to connect vs the Japanese style. You don't get the pop, or have to push them as hard. www.prevost.eu/connection/quick-couplings-and-adaptors-for-compressed-air-2.html They make some of the best air guns, and fittings on the market in my opinion.
Awesome vid as always! Thanks for the tip on the Japanese QD, definitely going to be keeping that in my back pocket. I notice you don't have any kind of cap in it. No issues with coolant/chips going in the male QD?
Great video. Always good to see the manufacturing come back. My question is your price comparison to the import price. Please share that as still has always been the issue for American manufacturing. I am in Miami, FL.
Great video as always Jay, you production just keeps getting better and better! What do you guys do about the intersecting holes with regards to burrs?
Thread milling is always awesome! I hand drill tapped my first 9 fixtures when I got my tormach, now that how have the recipice set, copy paste for X thread size and go! So much better, and when I get my speedio here soon with a 4th axis and I am able to do fixtures with 4x the parts, no way I am drill tapping I think 5000 6-32 holes and 900x 5-40 holes, I could power tap them on the machine but reliablity is key, I trust the machine just not the smaller taps lol
Hi Jay. Nice work buddy. I absolutely love the Haas UMC 500. Such an awesome machine in a small platform. TBH, wish I had one in my home shop. Hope you're well buddy? Keep on ripping it up 🙂. Cheers, Aaron
Have you considered doing reverse roto vise's where the hard jaw is at the top, and instead of the hex sticking out you do an inset hex? Like the reverse Kurt vise's?
Really nice. For me, I don't like stickers. I think engraving your logo would be a much nicer touch. No sticker to buy and no sticker to fall off after they get soaked with 5 years of coolant. Can't wait to get some of your stuff.
Nice work Jay. Looks like your enjoying your latest purchase. Thanks for posting video,s on RUclips rather than staying silent like most manufacturers. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of those who watch. Keep up the Good work, you do well at it. All the best. Peter.
Where do you purchase your YG1 tool holders from? I am in the market for some Hydraulics and I am torn between the YG1 and the Schunk Tendo E Compact. Both seem to be within 30-50 dollars when factoring in both the holder and sleeve (at least from my perspective and pricing.)
hi Jay, congratulations for all your success! At the end of the video, I just wondering what is the cyan roll of paper next to the machine door for? wrapping the finished parts or something? Starting my own machine shop in Vietnam and hope to learn more from you! thanks a lot!
I know video editing takes some time, but I was wondering if you had plans to add feeds & speeds parameters to your videos? (SFM, FPT, IPM, & Spindle Speed)
If we shared F&S, half would think they're too slow, half would think they're too fast. No way to win except to dial in our perfect F&S for each part, for each machine.
"Modeled Threads" look good but is sometimes problematic on the CAM side. We draw to the minor and use "Pitch Diameter Offset" to specify the programmed size. Fine adjustments of the thread diameter are then done in the machine control using cutter compensation.
Nope, we just leave it open. Coolant wouldn't affect anything and the internals of the PPS Base have wiper seals. A super lucky chip that made its way all the way to the cylinder wouldn't be an issue.
If you were getting too cute with your clearances. Instead of having the valve stick out over the table. Practically get rid of that red hose (or have be extremely short), and attach it to the pro pallet itself. The valve sits on the table, and then 3D print a little cover to go over it, to protect it from chips. :)
I'm sure that reply was here somewhere. Can't see it. - What I meant was, the connector was already in the T-Slot, instead put it right next to the pallet closer, and on top of the T-Slot, so that nothing is protruding outside the Haas table diameter.
@@gredangeo I replied but then deleted because I misunderstood your suggestion. I later realized that by "valve" you meant "fitting" and I thought you were suggesting to keep a valve with an airline connected. We had an adaptor like the one you suggested but the chips kept collecting around it. The second version in the video keeps the face of the table clear of chips.
Honestly if ur so about being lean and the ammount of time ur already spending in machine. Why not just do a nice engraving and skip the sticker all together?
Lean has nothing to do with doing things faster... It's about cutting waste out of the things we do. The sticker looks awesome so it's staying. Brush up on your understanding of lean at piersonworkholding.com/lean
@@PiersonWorkholding i understand lean doesnt mean faster i never said faster by getting rid of the sticker u eliminate and op done by a person and u either elinate the machine making the stickers or if ur buying them u eliminate a vendor. And theoretically reduce the cost of production i didnt read ur post but im pretty sure all that deffintly falls under goals of lean manufacturing
@@PiersonWorkholding mayb u should google lean and ull relize ur deffintion isnt the same as most. ur system works and u and thats good, i relize now u answered me a the very beging u like the sticker, the end. Have a nice day
I like the way the post will rotate one way to do two parts then rotate all the way back around the other way to do the next to instead of simply rotating to the next one.
Yeah that is annoying, I haven't looked into getting fusion to stop doing that. What's worse is between tools on non-indexing tool paths like swarf, the post spits out G92.1 C0, changes tools and goes back to whatever C value it ended on, did that to ~ C 2000. for a program....
Yes, it's a love-hate relationship with the post. What's crazier is if you're at 359 deg and command it to go to zero, guess which way it will go? Yup, the long and stupid way.
@@PiersonWorkholding i know but if you do positional 5axis and drill 2holes in part 1 and 1 hole in part 3 then rotate the roto-vise and do 2 in p2 and 1 in p4 and so on
It’s because of the way autodesk’s post processor works with multiple patterned parts. It’s not very efficient, and actually can crash the machine if you only run two parts 180 degrees opposite of one another and don’t factor in the retract plane to clear everything.
@@PiersonWorkholding I don't know about that. I am getting ~.003 on position on holes on the opposite side of 2" block drilled at B90. Also working anywhere near the extent of Y travel and tolerances get really loose.
@@ericharvey2968 I think you need to run your MRZP calibration again. We recalibrated shortly after installation and found it to be off. We did it a month later and it was still dialed in with no changes needed. DWO is also a key factor to look into as well.
@@ericharvey2968 without knowing more about your setup I'd agree with jay that you've got an mrzp issue. For testing the rotary can you square up an edge and then rotate the rotary 90 to see how it's sitting?
Nice video I love seeing work holding it always give a new perspective. Have you thought of using small fixture plates instead of a vice? Why not go octagonal instead of square ? And if the part was set on a 45deg angle you may get two rows of parts that could get you 16 parts instead of 4 . Just a thought with out modelling it up but could be a good option.
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Are you the type of person that never puts a hole in the wrong place?
Well now you can with the new haas umc 750 ss.
Just place your part in the right place and the haas software will automatically miscalculate your datums.
Add the new pallet changer to this UMC and you'll essentially have a money printer. Great job Pierson!
You talk about lean, but your tool oaths return to safety each time when you rotate?? Wastes alot of time no?
If the cycle time is no issue then that's fine but I would of thought parts want to be on and off the machine as quick as possible.
I came here to make the same comment and you beat me to it. LOL. Didn't expect to see all that fat from a guy that preaches lean manufacturing.
@@mannycalavera121 I can understand that on the first post. The fat should be removed as part of proofing a program, production job or not. It's a CNC machine. It repeats to tenths. If it runs once it will run that way indefinitely.
The hierarchy of improvements in lean is Safety, Quality, Simplicity, Speed. Trading safety for speed means you'll never get caught off guard if you start in the middle of a program, slightly miss an offset, etc. Rapiding to Z8. vs Z3. is mere seconds added to the cycle time and not worth compromising safety or process reliability.
@@PiersonWorkholding there are so many things to put in place to eliminate everything you have mentioned. You are a smart man. Use your imagination.
@fordhoarder As you said "things to put in place" violates simplicity. You seem smart... what would you put in place?
I'm curious - There's allot of double rapid moves or rapid moves which don't seem necessary, is that straight out of fusion doing that? I think you could shave allot of time removing those moves without pushing the tools harder
Great video 👍 Maybe delete the Pierson badge pocket and engrave Pierson instead.
If I could, I'd subscribe again just for the "subscribe if we've earned it"!
You guys have to try the quick disconnect from Prevost, they're self-venting, so they're really quick, and easy to connect vs the Japanese style. You don't get the pop, or have to push them as hard.
www.prevost.eu/connection/quick-couplings-and-adaptors-for-compressed-air-2.html
They make some of the best air guns, and fittings on the market in my opinion.
Good to know. We'll look into it.
Awesome vid as always! Thanks for the tip on the Japanese QD, definitely going to be keeping that in my back pocket. I notice you don't have any kind of cap in it. No issues with coolant/chips going in the male QD?
Great video. Always good to see the manufacturing come back. My question is your price comparison to the import price. Please share that as still has always been the issue for American manufacturing. I am in Miami, FL.
Great video as always Jay, you production just keeps getting better and better! What do you guys do about the intersecting holes with regards to burrs?
So sick! Nice job that roto is PERFECT for this!
Thread milling is always awesome! I hand drill tapped my first 9 fixtures when I got my tormach, now that how have the recipice set, copy paste for X thread size and go! So much better, and when I get my speedio here soon with a 4th axis and I am able to do fixtures with 4x the parts, no way I am drill tapping I think 5000 6-32 holes and 900x 5-40 holes, I could power tap them on the machine but reliablity is key, I trust the machine just not the smaller taps lol
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Thanks for this video. Do you have a reseller for your products in germany?
We only sell direct and ship daily to Europe. Visit store.piersonworkholding.com
Hi Jay. Nice work buddy. I absolutely love the Haas UMC 500. Such an awesome machine in a small platform. TBH, wish I had one in my home shop. Hope you're well buddy? Keep on ripping it up 🙂. Cheers, Aaron
Thank you Aaron! Cheers!
Have you considered doing reverse roto vise's where the hard jaw is at the top, and instead of the hex sticking out you do an inset hex? Like the reverse Kurt vise's?
Really nice. For me, I don't like stickers. I think engraving your logo would be a much nicer touch. No sticker to buy and no sticker to fall off after they get soaked with 5 years of coolant. Can't wait to get some of your stuff.
Nice work Jay.
Looks like your enjoying your latest purchase.
Thanks for posting video,s on RUclips rather than staying silent like most manufacturers.
Unfortunately you are at the mercy of those who watch.
Keep up the Good work, you do well at it.
All the best.
Peter.
Another great video Jay!
Where do you purchase your YG1 tool holders from? I am in the market for some Hydraulics and I am torn between the YG1 and the Schunk Tendo E Compact. Both seem to be within 30-50 dollars when factoring in both the holder and sleeve (at least from my perspective and pricing.)
Our local supplier - pmindustrial.com
It makes a lot of sense using a 5 axis to make a small part with 4 sides needing to be done, 3 sides a horizontal would be good.
hi Jay, congratulations for all your success!
At the end of the video, I just wondering what is the cyan roll of paper next to the machine door for? wrapping the finished parts or something? Starting my own machine shop in Vietnam and hope to learn more from you!
thanks a lot!
Nice video Jay, You did a goo job on your process explanation, I think you are liking your new machine
Did you have to do any offset adjustment when machining the part or was everything done with one offset?
I know video editing takes some time, but I was wondering if you had plans to add feeds & speeds parameters to your videos? (SFM, FPT, IPM, & Spindle Speed)
If we shared F&S, half would think they're too slow, half would think they're too fast. No way to win except to dial in our perfect F&S for each part, for each machine.
With the thread tool in 360. I'm guessing you have to tick the "modelled" check box to produce thread in a CNC?
"Modeled Threads" look good but is sometimes problematic on the CAM side. We draw to the minor and use "Pitch Diameter Offset" to specify the programmed size. Fine adjustments of the thread diameter are then done in the machine control using cutter compensation.
Jay- love seeing your UMC-500 in action showcasing your products! Keep innovating!
Thanks for sharing your process Jay. Do you normally cover the male air connection to prevent swarf or coolant form entering?
Nope, we just leave it open. Coolant wouldn't affect anything and the internals of the PPS Base have wiper seals. A super lucky chip that made its way all the way to the cylinder wouldn't be an issue.
@@PiersonWorkholding good to know, thanks!
Hey Jay, what are you keeping in the boxes on the tray to the left of the door?
pallet pool with these would be nice
You could definitely speed the whole program up a bit
There are other channels pushing tools to their limits but we're a real shop that values a reliable process.
If you were getting too cute with your clearances. Instead of having the valve stick out over the table. Practically get rid of that red hose (or have be extremely short), and attach it to the pro pallet itself. The valve sits on the table, and then 3D print a little cover to go over it, to protect it from chips. :)
I'm sure that reply was here somewhere. Can't see it. - What I meant was, the connector was already in the T-Slot, instead put it right next to the pallet closer, and on top of the T-Slot, so that nothing is protruding outside the Haas table diameter.
@@gredangeo I replied but then deleted because I misunderstood your suggestion. I later realized that by "valve" you meant "fitting" and I thought you were suggesting to keep a valve with an airline connected. We had an adaptor like the one you suggested but the chips kept collecting around it. The second version in the video keeps the face of the table clear of chips.
@@PiersonWorkholding Oh, ok. Cool, thanks. :)
What type of holder was the short 3/8" end mill in?
It's an SK holder.
Honestly if ur so about being lean and the ammount of time ur already spending in machine. Why not just do a nice engraving and skip the sticker all together?
Lean has nothing to do with doing things faster... It's about cutting waste out of the things we do. The sticker looks awesome so it's staying. Brush up on your understanding of lean at piersonworkholding.com/lean
@@PiersonWorkholding i understand lean doesnt mean faster i never said faster by getting rid of the sticker u eliminate and op done by a person and u either elinate the machine making the stickers or if ur buying them u eliminate a vendor. And theoretically reduce the cost of production i didnt read ur post but im pretty sure all that deffintly falls under goals of lean manufacturing
Eliminating waste is the goal of Lean. Eliminating intentional design elements is not. At least read our page before commenting on Lean.
@@PiersonWorkholding mayb u should google lean and ull relize ur deffintion isnt the same as most. ur system works and u and thats good, i relize now u answered me a the very beging u like the sticker, the end. Have a nice day
I like the way the post will rotate one way to do two parts then rotate all the way back around the other way to do the next to instead of simply rotating to the next one.
Yeah that is annoying, I haven't looked into getting fusion to stop doing that. What's worse is between tools on non-indexing tool paths like swarf, the post spits out G92.1 C0, changes tools and goes back to whatever C value it ended on, did that to ~ C 2000. for a program....
Yes, it's a love-hate relationship with the post. What's crazier is if you're at 359 deg and command it to go to zero, guess which way it will go? Yup, the long and stupid way.
@@PiersonWorkholding ruclips.net/video/vupmJflbAIE/видео.html is this can solve this problem ?
why do you not machine the holes on the backside at the same time as the front that would save you some cycle time because you do less repositioning
Pretty cool! I must say I would go nuts with all the extra index moves and extreme clearance moves if I wanted to run that part as a production piece.
@markus Metzger Good idea but the holes don't line up.
@@PiersonWorkholding i know but if you do positional 5axis and drill 2holes in part 1 and 1 hole in part 3 then rotate the roto-vise and do 2 in p2 and 1 in p4 and so on
It’s because of the way autodesk’s post processor works with multiple patterned parts. It’s not very efficient, and actually can crash the machine if you only run two parts 180 degrees opposite of one another and don’t factor in the retract plane to clear everything.
@@gamingpc3475 OK thanks now I understand
Hello Jay , Awesome video - how is the accurancy of the rotational axes on the UMC 500 ?
Very accurate! The UMC uses glass scales on the B and C for high accuracy positioning.
@@PiersonWorkholding I don't know about that. I am getting ~.003 on position on holes on the opposite side of 2" block drilled at B90. Also working anywhere near the extent of Y travel and tolerances get really loose.
Following up on this, have you inspected your parts on a cmm? I doubt those holes are where you think they are.
@@ericharvey2968 I think you need to run your MRZP calibration again. We recalibrated shortly after installation and found it to be off. We did it a month later and it was still dialed in with no changes needed. DWO is also a key factor to look into as well.
@@ericharvey2968 without knowing more about your setup I'd agree with jay that you've got an mrzp issue. For testing the rotary can you square up an edge and then rotate the rotary 90 to see how it's sitting?
Nice video I love seeing work holding it always give a new perspective.
Have you thought of using small fixture plates instead of a vice? Why not go octagonal instead of square ? And if the part was set on a 45deg angle you may get two rows of parts that could get you 16 parts instead of 4 . Just a thought with out modelling it up but could be a good option.