@Elkanah Corcos She is a superhuman entity, by the standards of modern remnant. She is immortal(to physical damage as well) and possesses powers no human on remnant can match(except possibly Ozma/Ozpin at one point). On top of this, she does have some modicum of control over a force of nature on Remnant, the Grimm. She is a goddess by definition. Just not a very powerful one. Ozpin would have been playing at god when he teamed up with her, since he has no control over a natural force of remnant that has been seen yet.
I love Salem's backstory. It perfectly walks the line between making her a sympathetic character, but still firmly establishing that she has become a real monster in almost every sense of the word.
No, Salem is just mentally ill. Seriously, even ignoring the PTSD Salem likely gained from fighting monsters with Ozma and seeing Ozma die, how many mental disorders Salem would gain from being immortal like she was within the time span it took her to "sway the heart of man", and the mental disorders she would develop from being immortal in complete and total isolation (Solitary imprisonment does more in less time), she was poisoned by the corruptive pools that the gods apparently left behind for the lols and resisted the effects of all of that when she had literally any support, and she relapsed when she lost all of the support that she gained. What part of that is "real monster"? If she entered into the DC universe, objectively anything that worked on the principle of "destroying evil" would either cure her, or have no effect, since the Spectre thought that the Joker was innocent. Seriously, when considering the character like Salem, the question isn't what Mental Disorders she has, it is what Mental Disorders she doesn't have.
@@orekihoutarou6107 True. When I say monster, I mean what she's trying to do, or has done, to the people of Remnant. That's what I mean by walking the line. She started just as a grieving widow, but she never got through any of the stages of grief, stopping at denial. All of her actions leading up to the destruction of humanity were her own choices.
@@FallenOne669 No, all the actions leading to the destruction of humanity were those of the Spiteful Gods. The Gods are Bastards is a trope for a reason.
@@FallenOne669 I feel more like she got stuck in the bargaining and anger phases (she literally begged the gods to bring Ozma back), but other than that your analysis is spot on
@@orekihoutarou6107 I never got the sense that the gods were being spiteful until the Younger Brother destroyed humanity. They didn't bring Ozma back not out of spite, but because it would've risked the balance of the world. The Older Brother cursed Salem with immortality as a way to teach her a lesson about the importance of that balance. The Gods seemed to act more like parents attempting to teach their children than anything. Salem was the one who willingly tried to go to war with them out of spite for giving her immortality.
Wow, this song suits Salem incredibly well. I could almost feel sympathetic for Salem at this point. Almost. Her grief and rage led her down a very dark path from which there is no return. But she made her choices, and where she is now is a result of them. I think Ozma still feels something for her, but it's more a desire to bring her peace than any form of affection by now.
That's what I love about Salem's backstory. It would've been far too easy, and honestly lazy in my opinion to make Salem either a hidden hero or a pure evil monster. Instead, Rooster Teeth made her a sympathetic character that can't be saved from what she's done.
she can't be destroyed. so what are the options for her character? the way i see it their are 2 options. she can be imprisoned (temporary measure) or she can be redeemed imo the ultimate series plot point is that the question was how to kill/destroy her and not how to accomplish his mission
Same. If anything, it strengthens my resolve to blast her castle with a HAVOK nuke, so she might find peace. .... Do Charon-class frigates have HAVOKs?
This sent chills down my spine and I've noticed how Salem is actually something more akin to a murderous antihero than are typical comic book villain granted she's plenty evil but she seeks I suppose her own sense of justice granted we've seen a few villains like that before but the way she does things is quite different than the way we were used to I suppose I can't quite explain it but great AMV it captured many key elements and good timing.
you say evil, I say 'willing to do what is necessary'. She is basically attempting to commit a very elaborate suicide. only problem is to do so, she needs to take every living being with her.
@@rubywoods7976 Well...yeah. I'm refering to how he showed Salem in her fully corrupt form (You), the uncorrupted her (Me), and then the partially corrupted form (We). As if it was two sides of her becoming one, which fits with the lyrics.
@@RavixAryss fun fact the song was about venom from marvel not salem,go to jt music if want to watch the original music video. edit: the lyric who are you is about eddie questioning who the symbiot was(venom)and what are we is about eddie wondering what are they when they were merged as one,not that crap that you said.
I swear this episode brought me to tears. I also for once in my life felt bad for Ozpin. To be fair this is the only time I've ever felt bad for both the good and bad guys.
"This is the beginning of the end, Ozpin..." "And I can't wait to watch you burn" The woman said, watching behind. No one was listening, no one was there... But she knew. She knew her past lover was listening... And her eyes began to burn, full of hatred and disgust
After her backstory, Salem became my favorite character she loved lost and defined who she was regardless of what she did. This is the best Rwby Amv I have seen. My theory is no Salem can’t die but she can be saved and get the happily ever after she deserves and she reunite with the actual ozma
There is a very big chance that she will be saved, ozma/ozpin alrealdy asked jinn if salem can be destroyed but she said that salem can't be destroyed. So chances are his only option is to change/save her.
true, but the elder god said where you once found love and compassion, you will only find chaos and destruction... I think that's how it went anyway, but at the very least since she can' t die, they'll find a way to imprison her... although now that I think about it, ozpin cant destroy her... but maybe ruby can... I mean why would salem wipe out the silver-eyed warriors? or maybe ruby ends up destroying the grimm "inside" salem to save her, idfk, that's just my thoughts tho
sure your theory might be right about rwby, but the elder god is not a good indication. he was tricked several times and is clearly not all knowing or all powerful. (i don't think even the 2 gods together could kill salem even if they wanted to)
I genuinely love what volume 6 did to Salem. She went from a spoopy face in the shadows to a genuinely understandable character that embodies the concept of a moral grey area. You understand exactly why she does what she does, why she is rather forgiving to her closer subordinates despite their failures, and also see that everything that happened to her was a direct cause of her own actions.
this is really amazing, I love Salem and to see JT No Hero music with her kind of shows what she been through and why she is who she is. either way, please stay safe and have a lovely day/night (whenever you see this comment)
Total agreement, but you wanna know the funniest thing about all of this? Salem actually had a clear coherent plan to better humanity by introducing their magical genes into the population, Ozpin would rather have cruel gods.
I feel like that a comparison can be made between Salem and Venom: both are monsters in every sense of the word (Salem being a human-grimm hybrid of sorts while Venom is an alien symbiote,) both have redeeming qualities (Salem genuinely caring about her late daughters and treating her followers with some respect while Venom does care about it's host's safety) and both are capable of amazing and horrifying power (Salem being invincible and having god-like magic powers while Venom can use his own body as a weapon.) The big difference: Venom is anti-hero on his best days who only kills criminals while Salem is ALWAYS a villain, albeit a somewhat sympathetic one, who is willing to dispose of anyone she deems useless. Another one is well, Salem is of fantasy where as Venom is more within the realms of Sci-fi. Imagine what would happen if Salem were to ever get her hands on Venom or worse, CARNAGE!...Remnant would be FUCKED!
@@FirstArchon ...Valid point. A god like woman with control over grimm would can be deadly with an alien symbiotic organism. But then again, Salem is already so powerful so idk how strong of a symbiote would make a difference.
I love this amv!!! This song also seems this song can be for Salem, I mean if you actually look at the amv and listen to the song, then the song will seem it is for Salem. This amv is creative and I really love it! Apotheosis, thanks for making this amazing amv!
Je regarderai après avoir vu l'épisode 4 parce que le début me dit rien mdr. Mais par contre wow ! Les nouveaux épisodes sont tellement cools ! Je suis tellement hypée que j'arrive plus à en dormir... Je regrette juste d'avoir personne avec qui en parler x)
@-Mikki- W.L Bah moi pareil je les kiffe tous. Mais bon après je pense que j'ai une petite préférence pour Ilia, Emerald et Velvet. Bon ok, surtout Ilia, elle est géniale :3
'artisticly' animated lyrics are cool and fun...when they don't mix in with the background and go invisible along with the voice being reasonably hard to understand in places
Damn, you always are beating me with these songs before me. Do you have no life lol XD also I'll update this comment when I see it. Well this video didn't disappoint, it came out the way I thought it would and I love it. Typo was the best part of the video as you did very nice as for the scenes were good as well! I can see all the Salem videos coming. ;) Keep up the great videos!
I love this video! It's amazing. It fits Salem perfectly! Salem is one of my favorites. Qrow is also my favorite along with Cinder Raven and Blake. Can you make one with Cinder, Raven, Blake, or Qrow? Sorry if I seem too much of a bother i just love the videos you make. They are amazing. :)
Hi ! Thanks for commenting ! I'd like to use "Time to die" (AC Syndicate) by JT Music for Qrow and Raven, but I think there's not enough scene of these two :x I have a song only for Cinder, but I'm not feeling inspired for now ^^ (Widowmaker RAP by JT Music)
That's a pretty good video, also sounds like from Venom. I still can't believe the girl in the tower is actually Salem, even her story was a trip with Ozpin/Ozma. 😯 But you hate to see the innocent ones turned bad and corrupted. 😇😈
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A princess, a lover, a heretic, a witch, an immortal, a mother, a goddess and villian.
Salem became everything, but not a hero to her own fairytale.
@Elkanah Corcos By definition, she was and well is a goddess. Just that there are even higher beings means that there are even more powerful gods.
@Elkanah Corcos She is a superhuman entity, by the standards of modern remnant. She is immortal(to physical damage as well) and possesses powers no human on remnant can match(except possibly Ozma/Ozpin at one point). On top of this, she does have some modicum of control over a force of nature on Remnant, the Grimm. She is a goddess by definition. Just not a very powerful one. Ozpin would have been playing at god when he teamed up with her, since he has no control over a natural force of remnant that has been seen yet.
But as we learn from several other story’s we are all the hero of our own story and just may be the villain to some one else
SPARTANT0001337 preach girl or boy 😂
@@avacado1235 girl?
I love Salem's backstory. It perfectly walks the line between making her a sympathetic character, but still firmly establishing that she has become a real monster in almost every sense of the word.
No, Salem is just mentally ill.
Seriously, even ignoring the PTSD Salem likely gained from fighting monsters with Ozma and seeing Ozma die, how many mental disorders Salem would gain from being immortal like she was within the time span it took her to "sway the heart of man", and the mental disorders she would develop from being immortal in complete and total isolation (Solitary imprisonment does more in less time), she was poisoned by the corruptive pools that the gods apparently left behind for the lols and resisted the effects of all of that when she had literally any support, and she relapsed when she lost all of the support that she gained.
What part of that is "real monster"? If she entered into the DC universe, objectively anything that worked on the principle of "destroying evil" would either cure her, or have no effect, since the Spectre thought that the Joker was innocent.
Seriously, when considering the character like Salem, the question isn't what Mental Disorders she has, it is what Mental Disorders she doesn't have.
@@orekihoutarou6107 True. When I say monster, I mean what she's trying to do, or has done, to the people of Remnant. That's what I mean by walking the line. She started just as a grieving widow, but she never got through any of the stages of grief, stopping at denial. All of her actions leading up to the destruction of humanity were her own choices.
@@FallenOne669
No, all the actions leading to the destruction of humanity were those of the Spiteful Gods.
The Gods are Bastards is a trope for a reason.
@@FallenOne669 I feel more like she got stuck in the bargaining and anger phases (she literally begged the gods to bring Ozma back), but other than that your analysis is spot on
@@orekihoutarou6107 I never got the sense that the gods were being spiteful until the Younger Brother destroyed humanity. They didn't bring Ozma back not out of spite, but because it would've risked the balance of the world. The Older Brother cursed Salem with immortality as a way to teach her a lesson about the importance of that balance. The Gods seemed to act more like parents attempting to teach their children than anything. Salem was the one who willingly tried to go to war with them out of spite for giving her immortality.
Wow, this song suits Salem incredibly well.
I could almost feel sympathetic for Salem at this point. Almost. Her grief and rage led her down a very dark path from which there is no return. But she made her choices, and where she is now is a result of them. I think Ozma still feels something for her, but it's more a desire to bring her peace than any form of affection by now.
That's what I love about Salem's backstory. It would've been far too easy, and honestly lazy in my opinion to make Salem either a hidden hero or a pure evil monster. Instead, Rooster Teeth made her a sympathetic character that can't be saved from what she's done.
she can't be destroyed. so what are the options for her character? the way i see it their are 2 options. she can be imprisoned (temporary measure) or she can be redeemed imo the ultimate series plot point is that the question was how to kill/destroy her and not how to accomplish his mission
Same. If anything, it strengthens my resolve to blast her castle with a HAVOK nuke, so she might find peace.
....
Do Charon-class frigates have HAVOKs?
POZ Gaming I think they have SHIVAs, I haven't brushed up on my UNSC Warship armaments in a while
Funny thing is, this is a song for Venom. Now I cannot think about Salem without thinking of Venom
This sent chills down my spine and I've noticed how Salem is actually something more akin to a murderous antihero than are typical comic book villain granted she's plenty evil but she seeks I suppose her own sense of justice granted we've seen a few villains like that before but the way she does things is quite different than the way we were used to I suppose I can't quite explain it but great AMV it captured many key elements and good timing.
you say evil, I say 'willing to do what is necessary'. She is basically attempting to commit a very elaborate suicide. only problem is to do so, she needs to take every living being with her.
"I won't be. Nor will you. Only we." I see what you did there. And I really really like it.
actually that is the song
@@rubywoods7976 Well...yeah. I'm refering to how he showed Salem in her fully corrupt form (You), the uncorrupted her (Me), and then the partially corrupted form (We). As if it was two sides of her becoming one, which fits with the lyrics.
@@RavixAryss fun fact the song was about venom from marvel not salem,go to jt music if want to watch the original music video.
edit: the lyric who are you is about eddie questioning who the symbiot was(venom)and what are we is about eddie wondering what are they when they were merged as one,not that crap that you said.
@@justinmacabio5522 he’s knows it’s about venom, he’s talking about the transition with Salem
I swear this episode brought me to tears. I also for once in my life felt bad for Ozpin. To be fair this is the only time I've ever felt bad for both the good and bad guys.
"This is the beginning of the end, Ozpin..."
"And I can't wait to watch you burn"
The woman said, watching behind. No one was listening, no one was there...
But she knew. She knew her past lover was listening...
And her eyes began to burn, full of hatred and disgust
After her backstory, Salem became my favorite character she loved lost and defined who she was regardless of what she did. This is the best Rwby Amv I have seen. My theory is no Salem can’t die but she can be saved and get the happily ever after she deserves and she reunite with the actual ozma
There is a very big chance that she will be saved, ozma/ozpin alrealdy asked jinn if salem can be destroyed but she said that salem can't be destroyed. So chances are his only option is to change/save her.
true, but the elder god said where you once found love and compassion, you will only find chaos and destruction... I think that's how it went anyway, but at the very least since she can' t die, they'll find a way to imprison her... although now that I think about it, ozpin cant destroy her... but maybe ruby can... I mean why would salem wipe out the silver-eyed warriors? or maybe ruby ends up destroying the grimm "inside" salem to save her, idfk, that's just my thoughts tho
sure your theory might be right about rwby, but the elder god is not a good indication. he was tricked several times and is clearly not all knowing or all powerful. (i don't think even the 2 gods together could kill salem even if they wanted to)
This song suits Salem's character really well, great video!
TyrianProtectionSquad for every like this comment gets another Tyrian stinger is saved
The song/rap is about venom (marvel) not salem.
This song really represents her and lost. Amazing. And today's episode was "WHAT THE HELL" really😅😆🤔
Holy crap it's like this song was made for Salem's backstory. Well done on this AMV!
I know right
Yeah but it was made for venom lol imagine Salem with the symbiote
Malware Anims no thanks, I choose life
V6 Chapter 3 was the best episode since V3. Such a satisfying and epic tale.
I agree !
I can agree with that statement.
I genuinely love what volume 6 did to Salem. She went from a spoopy face in the shadows to a genuinely understandable character that embodies the concept of a moral grey area. You understand exactly why she does what she does, why she is rather forgiving to her closer subordinates despite their failures, and also see that everything that happened to her was a direct cause of her own actions.
Perfect song for the right character
i've watched this probably 12 times already. This is amazingly timed
This song fits her perfectly. Well done.
Now i'm conflicted. Which does this Venom song match more, Prey 2017 or RWBY?
This is perfect I’m a jt music fan rwby fanatic
this is really amazing, I love Salem and to see JT No Hero music with her kind of shows what she been through and why she is who she is. either way, please stay safe and have a lovely day/night (whenever you see this comment)
This amv is simply brilliant and I love every second of it 💙 The editing is great and the song fits perfectly
Funny... she is the princess that became the evil queen because of her prince charming.
Whoa this is great! The song fits the character arc really well and I love love love what you've done with the editing. Great job!
this song fits well with her character.
YES. YES TO EVERYTHING. THANK YOU
Oh my gosh, THANK YOU SO MUCH~!
This is _b e a u t i f u l~_
Oh my god that was actually spot on song for Salem wow and the edits daaaaamn bravo you picked the best ones!
We ... are Salem!!
this is a ospin diss track
And the gods
Thanks for the heart
That was just so...epic! I'm speechless!
Ahhhhh this is so good! This song is definitely perfect for her!
venom would be badass in RWBY 👍🏻👍🏻
*"Now lets eat all their heads and pile them in the corner"*
Wow amazing thus really fits Salem perfectly!
I like that you actually put effort into your amv's unlike others who just speed up a certain part of an episode.
I appreciate your comment, thank you very much ! :3
Beautiful just Beautiful
Another epic video...this song is perfect for Salem and her story great job
Why do I think the song "Ready as I'll ever be" from Tangled would fit Salem and the rest of the RWBY cast?
Salem And This Song Really Fits Perfectly!!!
Hell yeah! I have been waiting for a Salem AMV and you just went above and beyond with it 😁This is excellent!
This is spectacular I love RWBY
Ozpins a fool. I would follow that woman anywhere
I know, right? Salem is beautiful, both before and after what happened to her.
Total agreement, but you wanna know the funniest thing about all of this? Salem actually had a clear coherent plan to better humanity by introducing their magical genes into the population, Ozpin would rather have cruel gods.
Megatron:(to Ozpin) Such heroic nonsense...
Yeah that’s always smart follow the crazy hatful evil lady
This song fits her perfectly I know many others have said this but this was my first video of yours I've watched and I have to say perfect 😄
This might be the best RWBY AMV I have found to date.
Your edits always make my day better
AMAZING😍😍😍😍
This was very cool!
*WE ARE SALEM*
Once again Apo, you outdid yourself \@.@/
I love this song, I loved The Lost Fable, and love this video.
I've never thought half of JT music's goes so well with RWBY
This was amazing
This is very cool...I love the good AMV about RWBY I tried something with Roman some time ago
Love this so much!
Salem and Ozpin are damned good characters imo.
Awesome vid btw.
10/10 best amv ever
Brings forth the nature she always had. Perfection!
I may be late but, keep up the fantastic work, it's amazing, and I love it.
I have no clue who this is but it machima’s song makes this so freaking deep
This is such a perfect fit for Salem. I feel bad for the things she has been through, and the dark path she is walking on now
Well done, it certainly fits Salem like a glove.
I feel like that a comparison can be made between Salem and Venom: both are monsters in every sense of the word (Salem being a human-grimm hybrid of sorts while Venom is an alien symbiote,) both have redeeming qualities (Salem genuinely caring about her late daughters and treating her followers with some respect while Venom does care about it's host's safety) and both are capable of amazing and horrifying power (Salem being invincible and having god-like magic powers while Venom can use his own body as a weapon.)
The big difference: Venom is anti-hero on his best days who only kills criminals while Salem is ALWAYS a villain, albeit a somewhat sympathetic one, who is willing to dispose of anyone she deems useless. Another one is well, Salem is of fantasy where as Venom is more within the realms of Sci-fi.
Imagine what would happen if Salem were to ever get her hands on Venom or worse, CARNAGE!...Remnant would be FUCKED!
i want this to happen
@@FirstArchon As do I
is remnant not already fucked though?
@@FirstArchon ...Valid point. A god like woman with control over grimm would can be deadly with an alien symbiotic organism. But then again, Salem is already so powerful so idk how strong of a symbiote would make a difference.
@@Kingcole6 the increase is realtive to starting power so the increase is would be insane
I love this amv!!! This song also seems this song can be for Salem, I mean if you actually look at the amv and listen to the song, then the song will seem it is for Salem. This amv is creative and I really love it! Apotheosis, thanks for making this amazing amv!
Thanks !
Apotheosis your welcome! ^^
Wow ! This is a masterpiece! Good!
Still one of the best amv’s I’ve seen
This song is SO DAMN PERFECT for Salem
This works pretty well
Nice work buddy :3
Killed it
2:15 to 2:25 is my favorite part, I think it’s really cool
Such Talent T.T
Yeees the vemon song it works perfectly with the grim too. You are too clever. You amaze me every time.
dang. it's like this song was written for her. great job. it's awesome. ;)
Je regarderai après avoir vu l'épisode 4 parce que le début me dit rien mdr. Mais par contre wow ! Les nouveaux épisodes sont tellement cools ! Je suis tellement hypée que j'arrive plus à en dormir... Je regrette juste d'avoir personne avec qui en parler x)
Venez sur le discord de la chaîne si vous voulez ! Il y a un canal français ;)
@@Apotheosis yep !
Mais j'adore Salem(at least I'm trying😗😝😝)
@-Mikki- W.L quel est ton perso préféré ?
@-Mikki- W.L Bah moi pareil je les kiffe tous. Mais bon après je pense que j'ai une petite préférence pour Ilia, Emerald et Velvet. Bon ok, surtout Ilia, elle est géniale :3
Very impressive
I have to say your amv's are pretty good im enjoying them
'artisticly' animated lyrics are cool and fun...when they don't mix in with the background and go invisible along with the voice being reasonably hard to understand in places
Oh please Salam just needs a little 😉 😉 and she good...How long is her dry spell now?
YES!!!!!!!! I WAS WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN!!!
Amazing AMV love it ❤💜💟✌💪
O My Lord! Combine this Evil song with this evil character, you get this amazing piece of work! 💕
Damn, you always are beating me with these songs before me. Do you have no life lol XD also I'll update this comment when I see it.
Well this video didn't disappoint, it came out the way I thought it would and I love it. Typo was the best part of the video as you did very nice as for the scenes were good as well! I can see all the Salem videos coming. ;)
Keep up the great videos!
I have no life
@@Apotheosis I knew it. XD
@@Apotheosis Updated Comment with some ❤❤❤
I.... Love it
All of your AMVs are absolutely amazing. What do you use to edit?
Thank you very much for your comment ! I use Sony vegas pro 13
Cool,nice.
All for one x rwby villano a héroe ❤❤❤
There's a song called Godhunter by the Aviators, which I think suits Salem and Ruby. Possibly even Ozpin.
I love this video! It's amazing. It fits Salem perfectly! Salem is one of my favorites. Qrow is also my favorite along with Cinder Raven and Blake. Can you make one with Cinder, Raven, Blake, or Qrow? Sorry if I seem too much of a bother i just love the videos you make. They are amazing. :)
Hi ! Thanks for commenting ! I'd like to use "Time to die" (AC Syndicate) by JT Music for Qrow and Raven, but I think there's not enough scene of these two :x
I have a song only for Cinder, but I'm not feeling inspired for now ^^ (Widowmaker RAP by JT Music)
@@Apotheosis its okay. :)'
You crank out top quality AMVs like it's nothing! Way to rep the RWBY queen!
Aaww thanks !
Cool
That's a pretty good video, also sounds like from Venom. I still can't believe the girl in the tower is actually Salem, even her story was a trip with Ozpin/Ozma. 😯
But you hate to see the innocent ones turned bad and corrupted.
😇😈
Make an AMV on Lullaby Of A Deadman. Because it fits Ozpin and Salem
This works...too well
"Swallowed, Consumed..."
Salem was LITERALLY consumed by her inner darkness.
This is why Salem to me...is RWBY's sole likeable villain after Roman's death. Her backstory really makes me sad.
Impressive!
Salem Go! #WouldYouKindlyHelp #LoveLustBalance
This made me like Salem as a villain actually
Another thing be honest everyone would you Date/Bang/marry Salem?
Probably date or marry her
I'd do it.
I'd date her but that's pretty much it
I choose just talk.
One night stand
After seeing Salem's story, I feel sorry for her,
Well, in some way
wicked awesome!
One question...
*Why TF does this fit Salem so well?!?!*
This song totally fits her life style!