What's About to Happen?! Pastor's BIG ANNOUNCEMENT
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- Registration for the first Hello Saints Virtual Summit is open! The summit will take place June 11th - June 20th and will involve two dozen Latter-day Saint and Protestant presenters. And it's totally FREE!
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Hello Saints! My name is Jeff McCullough and I'm a Christian Pastor.
This channel is devoted to fighting criticism with curiosity as I invite dialogue between mainstream Christians and Latter-day Saints. Are Mormons Christians? What do Evangelicals and Latter-day Saints agree and disagree about? Join me as I compare and contrast the lifestyle, culture and beliefs of Mormons and non-LDS Christians.
If you enjoyed this video, you might enjoy a similar video of Pastor Jeff and Joy attending Latter-day Saint church in Utah for the first time: • Our FIRST TIME at a La...
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What are you hoping to hear and see during the summit? You can register at www.HelloSaintsSummit.com
Love, acceptance and forgiveness
I just registered! I just can't wait to hear people expressing their beliefs in an informed, kind way! Will Joy be part of the summit?
I am hoping to hear faith promoting messages on both sides of the issues. You are doing a wonderful work, Pastor Jeff!
Yup!!
I look forward to Hannah Stoddard - she is the Joseph Smith expert, up there with Don Bradley.
I have lived both Protestant and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints experiences in my youth, and loved them both!! But I had a special experience at a very young age of knowing a difference in what I felt at a sacrament meeting. It was special, safe, peaceful and loving…among other things. I chose to listen to what was in my mind and heart, and joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have never been sorry. I feel the peaceful and purifying power of the atonement during the sacrament, as I repent and am cleansed from sin, because of Jesus Christ, our Savior and Redeemer. It has led me into life and salvation, and also exaltation as I live to be worthy of those blessings. Right now, what comforts me, is knowing that Christ is my friend…we never need to be afraid of him…and we can follow him by learning how to obey.
I love this. With so much increasing division in the world, the Body of Christ across all denominations needs to find more common ground to come together.
I can only speak for myself, but I have always been taught that scripture is the word of God; His mind and His will revealed to His children to guide them through this crazy life back to His eternal presence. If scripture is God revealing His mind and will to His children, then the canon of Scripture can never be truly closed, for God will never cease to guide us. God is truth. Whatever He speaks is truth. Whatever He speaks is scripture, for Scripture is by definition His word. Therefore, reason leads me to believe that the canon is open, and that God will continue to speak, teach, guide, and direct us until ALL of His purposes have been accomplished. I am so grateful that His word has not ended because I need Him to keep guiding me.
Of course God is still speaking and teaching and leading us, but His doctrine is unchanged because everything culminated in Jesus' perfect sacrifice for our sins on his cross. We are grafted in to a Hebrew story begun when God called Abraham, and said that Ab's faith was reckoned to God as righteousness. It's His righteousness that we put on when we choose to follow Christ, it is not our own righteousness because we have none. We are all sinners saved by grace.
This evangelical is pumped! I love my LDS friends!
And we love you!!
@@DavidPeel-fo9xv that’s exactly what I came here to say!
Beautiful Pastor Jeff. 20 years ago my parents attended the "Evening of Friendship" at the Tabernacle. And there was an electricity in the air when they came home talking about it. We have evangelical and LDS family. And I knew that event was massively going to reshape the relationship between the two parties. And this summit feels like the next layer of learning how to talk and see each other. High five Pastor Jeff. This is amazing! Praise God! 🙏
Put it this way, if everyone could understand each other, respect them for their view. Imagine our world where conversations could flow to solve problems. This summit could be a great thing.
What I want to hear from media influencer Jeff loud and clear in front of all his evangelical friends is this. I accept my LDS friends as fellow Christians and while we don’t agree on all points of doctrine we are all, as Christians striving to make the world and our communities more Christlike….
This!!!
Thank you brother for your gift of love and reconciliation to us
I’m not religious at all but I’ll be glued to this summit.
That’s so cool. Thanks for bridging the gap!!
I am looking forward to this summit. Ever since my mission I have been interested in learning more about the other faiths and learn of the similarities. I love this channel for that reason.
SWEET!!! ❤ SO EXCITED!
I pray that all will come to feel the love ❤️ and protection of knowing and following the Savior.
Love this! Thank you Pastor Jeff and all the others for making this happen :)
What a cool idea! Instead of "debates" that get contentious, having two presentations sounds like a better idea.
Been waiting for this week's video. Every new upload makes me so excited, so it's great to hear there will be an entire week of these!
Wow, you've been busy. Thank you for your time and hard work!
I'm so excited for this. I am an Evangelical with LDS family and friends.
Thank you for your efforts. Much appreciated.
Great News!
Sounds like a worthwhile effort :-). Thank you!!
Should be awesome. We all have a deep love of God and our Saviour. Should be insightful and look forward to hearing more. carol
Hopefully you are at the point where you can call us your brothers and sisters in Christ as we are all Christians.
Is this ur version of a general conference? I can't wait ❤
Very good discussion.
That was a juicy conversation!
I saw the notification on my phone! I clicked so fast!
Hello pastor Jeff, I can see you are being put through it by many members on both sides. Just remember that Jesus is perfect and everyone else well you know the rest. I appreciate your honesty and intentions. Even if you stay Pastor Jeff all of your days and keep preaching of Jesus. You are so Loved by him ^ that created you and are doing his work. I would say that many don’t know him and his love.. possibly re direct your efforts and great intentions to those still lost and in vital need to hear the truth that Jesus lives. That’s all. I’m praying for you Pastor. 🙂🙏
Thank you for this comment!
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I am disabled future service for the church of Jesus Christ and would like to hear and share my testimony of the gospel
Add some point each of us will be backed against the wall of faith and have to make a choice on what we believe. Reason isn’t conclusive enough.
They did say that, one still has to have faith. We all can reason what we believe the scripture says, but we do need that confirmation from the Holy Spirit.
At the end of this mortal life, we will all serve Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Since he will be ruling the earth for a 1,000
years, he will establish his kingdom here on earth with his authorized servants, who are prophets, priests and priestesses
and his faithful followers. We will have that freedom to embrace his truths or remain clasped to our previous wrong
beliefs system.
Amen. In the New Testament, all believers, men, women, children, and even black people have been priests now for 2,000 years. God himself has made us priests.
I Peter 2:5, 9
Revelation 1:6; 5:10
Wow Joseph Smith Foundation I love listening to that channel
Interested to hear the rest. Complex subject that needs a lot more discussion.
Pastor Jeff, I would love a quick response video. Various people both inside and outside Mormonism have stated that your real motivation is to help build a bridge to help people leave Mormonism and transition into Protestantism. Would you say this is your ultimate end goal? With Mormons feeling okay to convert to Protestantism? Can you speak a bit about this claim specifically?
Considering that some here have stated that they thought his "big announcement" was that they thought Jeff was converting to LDS, I would say both sides will forever believe they are the more correct way to understand God, Salvation, Jesus, Holy Ghost/Spirit, revelation, modern prophets, salvation, marriage, etc., so that answer would be yes, for everyone involved in this project, deep deep down in their own convictions, whether LDS or Evangelical. Wouldn't you agree?
He’s stated his end goal which is to increase understanding of each other’s faith, increase mutual respect and communication and reduce antagonism. There is no direct conversion goal. That said I don’t like the fact that both sides (at times) express a need to be more True or Right than the other side. That stance creates a slightly distasteful underbelly to the whole enterprise. It’s like trying to respectfully understand a Yankee fan if you are a Red Sox fan. Emotions ultimately take over.
This is what I've gathered, after watching Pastor Jeff in guest appearances on podcasts and videos on this channel. I don't speak for Pastor Jeff and at the end of the day, it is speculation. But in hopes it could be helpful in some way:
1) My impression is that Pastor Jeff believes it is difficult, but not impossible, to be a saved, born-again Christian while remaining a practicing member of the LDS church. That the Lord looks on the heart, and that if the heart of an LDS person has come to an awareness of their need for a savior, and surrenders their heart to Jesus with the understanding that Christ's atonement alone is what saves them, then that is enough to save their soul in God's eyes. And Pastor Jeff would like to encourage this to happen for people who are currently in the LDS tradition and have no intention to leave.
2) In an early video, Pastor Jeff asked Protestants to consider the possibility that if they care more about being doctrinally correct or winning an argument than loving the person in front of them, they may not be in right standing before God. That if belief differences or cultural differences become so large or scary in their minds that they can't love a LDSaint or be in relationship with them, they're not truly following Jesus' teachings. So, I think Pastor Jeff has a concern for the souls of some Protestants who may be in this situation and is reaching out to them through this channel.
3) Given Pastor Jeff’s belief that Protestant doctrine is more true, and his belief that it’s difficult to be saved in the LDS tradition, he would welcome LDS people to investigate and embrace Protestantism. Not that he is trying to “convert” people, but that he’s trying to give friendship and kindness and accurate information, and let the Lord work in people’s hearts. This is especially important given the internal struggles happening within LDS culture right now and large number of people experiencing crises of faith. Hello Saints invites anyone interested to keep an open mind toward Protestant Christianity before they give up on organized religion altogether. Many LDS people may have grown up with incorrect ("straw man") understandings about what Protestants actually believe, and Pastor Jeff is working to get a more accurate, nuanced understanding of Protestantism out there for those who may, eventually, decide to change faiths.
@@tarabates7088 I think your assessment is spot on.
@@tarabates7088I think you all have a misunderstanding of our relationship with Christ. We all have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and that only through Him are we saved and are already saved (or born again as you call it)
Wow! What a fantastic idea!
Hey Jeff, I'm a Latter-Day Saint and have enjoyed your podcasts and the efforts to bring greater understanding between latter-day saints and other christian religions. Thanks for your efforts. Just curious if you will be bringing any general authorities (Prophet, apostles, sevenites) to the table representing the Latter-Day Saint views for your summit.
I'm excited for this! Faith and Politics, that will be an interesting one. Politics seems to be a topic that's not really discussed on your channel (which is wise). I am curious to hear what the speakers think about Christian nationalism.
Jeff, your definition of sola scriptura sounds more like prima scriptura. To me, those don’t seem mutually compatible. Which one do you believe in?
What happened to read recap and react? I think we need to cover the entire book of Mormon before we start discussing the religion.
Finished reading the BOM! Videos recorded and being edited. Stay tuned!
@@HelloSaints ❤️🌈 That’s awesome brother Jeff! Most people upon the initial reading are just beginning to get familiar with the surface story of the book just as with with all Scripture. There are five levels of teaching layered in Hebrew scripture that end at the mystery level….to understand the deeper levels, It’s going to take more than one reading just like the Bible. The chiasm’s that are interwoven throughout the entire book or nothing short of amazing considering the entire book was translated in just a short period of time, I’d love to see you do a video just on the chiastic structures that are quite prolific and still being found within the text. Would be a cool vid!❤️🌈
On FAITH & REASON; I found a great definitive statement in a book written by Elder Neal A Maxwell called “The Enoch Letters” where a fictional character is trying to explain to his friend why he is making the decision to follow the prophet Enoch.
“…while (this decision) is not at variance with logic and reason, it does not depend alone upon them either. Nor will the decision be made on a basis of mere feeling. It is a decision to be made by a form of knowing which lies somewhere beyond the realms of both thinking and feeling.”
When you said you had a big announcement I thought you were going to say you converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
That’s later 😉
Which sect are you? Gibsonite, Strangite?
That’s what I thought too , because it is undoubtedly THE TRUE restored Church of Jesus Christ.
@@jenniferthompson1204Which branch?
@@amybaker1880 Pretty sure we mean the “brighamites,” otherwise known as the “mountain mormons”
Edit: meant to say “pretty sure” when I put “pretty rude,” my bad guys. Autocorrect is praying on my downfall lol!
When are you going to finish reading the Book of Mormon?
Finished! Videos recorded and being edited. Stay tuned!
@@HelloSaintswhat are thoughts of 52 churches in 52 weeks and the Pastor you became a member after 47 years of looking for the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? What are your thoughts of NDE pastor who wrote the book Imagine Heaven etc
Reading the Bible is good enough, no need to go read a false book like The book of Mormon
You guys are about to give David Alexander a heart attack 😂😂😂
I wish he was a guest! He's amazing!
@@gingermcgovern5682 I think he’d be against all this. He has entertaining videos but I would also like to see him be more engaging with the other perspectives.
@@brg1213lol yes he’s still so new and thinks Jeff is building off ramps not bridges. David is so thrilled and happy to find the church that he can’t imagine anyone ever leaving! I believe him and David Boice and Jeff and others are each playing a vital role in the last days gathering! It’s been so interesting to watch!
@@gingermcgovern5682 interesting and entertaining. I see this from a Catholic perspective.
@gingermcgovern5682 I unsubscribed from David awhile back. He's so critical of others. He's hyper vigilant. You can see that when you learn about how he was a member of a very dysfunctional out in the mountains boondocks church that believed in abusing kids to do what the adults wanted them to do. A stick it to them with a rod kind of church in the wilderness. That's where he left his wife he never talks about. He is charismatic for a reason, he plans on being one of the top leaders in the church as to his fascination of the prophets and apostles. Listen carefully, he isn't just adoring them, he is making his rounds trying to know top people to become one of them. It has always been his goal no matter what church it's been. He has a great desire to lead and teach more than a humble follower of Christ. He really is about the fame and accolades.
Amazing! Can't wait!
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"Look at the big bang,"
That's a good show😂😂😂😂😂😂
P.s. I am not the official RUclips channel of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints."
How do I get involved? My RUclips channel is all about this content. You inspired me to make a RUclips channel to share my testimony of Jesus Christ and of the book of Mormon of the Bible.
I thought you were going to say that you are getting baptized. 😅
Pastor Jeff I love your conversations you bring up how LDS faith and Christian faith is very similar how you come together the Holy Ghost can work to help teach and learn from one another. Heavily father said I am the same yesterday Today and forever without changing. Christ is the head of his church and he has 12 apostles even in the beginning he had prophets Sears and regulators and 12 apostles that never changed until all the prophets and 12 apostles were removed from the face of the earth, created the great apostasy.
But doesn't that belief negate the fact that Jesus is the final authority on truth and revelation, and that He sent the Holy Ghost to indwell us and instruct on on His truth, the truth that God has always been Love, that He is always Good, that He has always been seeking His people and providing for us, and that since He doesn't change there is no need for new prophets or new doctrine in how to believe? Hebrews 1: 1,2 In former times God spoke thru His prophets, but in these Last Days He has spoken through His son Jesus Christ, who is higher than men/prophets and angels and is the exact representation of God Himself.
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_GodThe fact that Jesus was the mouthpiece of God at that time does not eliminate the need for prophets, that would invalidate the prophetic work of the apostles after his Ascension. Be consistent
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God why is there a need for prophets and the 12 apostles at all? Christ has always called prophets and apostles why can’t he call them in the last days?
@@jessekoeven3757 You think prophets are necessary to invalidate former prophets? How does that measure up with how to tell a true prophet in Deuteronomy? You'd never know what is true at any one time. That's crazy for a God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever. How could Jesus call Himself the Way the Truth and the Life, that no one comes to the Father except thru Him, if prophets are going to come later and invalidate him? God would be a constantly moving target which is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught us about the love, mercy, grace, steadfastness, patience and forgiveness of our mighty one and only God.
@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God you misunderstood my previous comment. Prophets before Christ pointed to him as the way, Christ testified of himself as the way, and the apostles testified of him as the way after his death and Ascension. It is consistent with this pattern that modern prophets would continue the trend. It would be contrary to this pattern for Christ to be the end of it, especially as he told the apostles to continue the testifying work of the prophets and not do as you claim.
EDIT: In other words, if you are right, then Christ would not have called the Twelve and commissioned their work of testifying of him before the nations. He would have ended it then and there. The fact that he did not do this totally contradicts your claim. Please be consistent with what the scriptures indicate as truth.
Hi beloved LDS and evangelicals and other faith groups in this comment section. I’m a former LDS and now a Orthodox Christian. Feel free to dialogue with me here in the comment section and ask me questions if you would like. May God bless you all and Christ is risen!☦️ (feel free to ask anything I won’t take offence)
As a former LDS and has been the back and forth, I’m glad this is being facilitated-open and transparent discussions about core theology and doctrine is so crucial.
Awesome! Wish we had more events like this. Maybe this will be the start of new conversations like this
Maybe the next one can be in-person! 🤔
Awesome...but I really thought you were going to announce your baptism into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints...hopefully soon! ;)
anyone else having a problem loading the website?
Will attendees be able to interact with each other?
Pastor I would love for you to ask a mormon what exaltation is , and if it is required to be with Heavenly Father not just the son. ask them what salvation means and if it is the same as exaltation.
Jesus Christ does call his prophets. Eli, Elijah, Jeremiah, Noah, Isaiah, and others. Hay, He even made a donkey talk.
Nice pun!
Let's not forget that God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow...
Yes, I agree that God called His prophets in the OT up thru Jesus' personal prophet of John the Baptist, but Jeff is explaining that in these Last Days (before Jesus' return) God chose to speak only thru His son. Jesus is the pinnacle of revelation, and when the NT is read completely with the guidance of the Holy Spirit it is clear that Jesus has fulfilled the important functions of Prophet, Priest and King, which is why His sacrifice saves us completely. There are so many verses in the NT that make this very evident, but I start with Hebrews 1.
So Peter didn’t receive revelation concerning the spreading of the Gospel to gentiles and many other things after Christ’s crucifixion?
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God The problem with believing that God would quite calling prophets after Jesus Christ life ended doesn't make sense to me. I believe that Martin Luther was called to break th Catholic Hold for instance.
Surprised to see Pastor Dr. Jordan B Cooper on the thumbnail. Love his videos
Right on, brother! This is awesome, man!
thats awesome. I really feel like its a shame that Latter-day Saints and protestants don't get along well enough, we have enough enemies in the world. Christ wouldn't want his followers to have so much discord
These conversations will be so good!
I think that the Protestant tenets are not "different" but are incomplete and fit inside of LDS tenets which makes sense in that God has revealed more and clarified more in recent days. So the Protestant tenets (the ones not totally corrupted by man) are 100% correct because God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow - but they are incomplete.
Protestants, Catholics, etc. are not yet privy to these details because they are still holding on to only the old scriptures and artifacts. This would be like the faithful, chosen people of the Old Testament - clinging stubbornly to only the things of the old Testament - even as Jesus Christ, himself, in person, reveals "new" laws and details which eventually became the New Testament. It seems God wanted to move from a people preparing for a Savior, to a people who followed the Savior. If you only believe the Old Testament, then you miss out on SO MUCH INFORMATION regarding who the Messiah is, how he would have you live a life a faith etc. But if you only believe in the New Testament (and Old Testament) then you miss out on SO MUCH INFORMATION regarding who the God the father, the Messiah, the Savior Jesus Christ are, the role of families, the value of covenants, and how much he has loved and worked with people of faith throughout the whole world and not just Israel!
Today, we are a worldwide people preparing for Christ's return. For nearly 200 yrs, the heavens have been re-opened and Jesus Christ has restored a church where he has revealed so much more which has brought clarity and correction to old Scriptures and continues to reveal so much more every day. Those people who believe in the Old Testament and the New Testament but not other Testaments are missing out on SO MUCH INFORMATION!
The Old Testament is the word of God
The New Testament is the word of God
The Other Testaments are the words of God (Book of Mormon being one of them)
The more holy Testaments we have inspired by God of God, the Messiah, the Savior Jesus Christ - the more we can more fully understand. The less testaments a person has faith in, the less they understand of God, the Messiah, the Savior Jesus Christ and what they would have us know.
Its not about "understanding God" (with your intellect) it's about knowing God with and in your heart. John chapter 3. Revelation 3:20.
That's applying your modern understanding to ancient texts. Israelites believed that our thoughts came from our hearts.
Look it up! Its very cool.
Remember, we want you to listen and learn, not just constantly try to prove us wrong.
@@JIKOKALOL
It's funny how Protestants always tell me that my heart deceives me.
Well said!
@@Misa_Susaki Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. Who can know it?
Can’t see the free videos, help! Want to watch, yes I registered.
Email hellosaintschannel@gmail.com
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' foundational history is comprised of pretty much every sect of Christianity (especially early Methodists, Presbyterian, Baptist, Pentecostal and others) who accepted this Church and were sanctified, blessed and accomplished incredible things as they exercise phenomenal faith in building the Kingdom. This Church is phenomenal and never ceases to amaze me. Leo Tolstoy called it "The American religion" and the passages of scripture in the Doctrine & Covenants regarding the divinely inspired Constitution of the United States of America certainly are a part of that. So is the journey of the Church in America from East to West. Virtually every single convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints first 50 plus years were Bible believing Christians and that includes Joseph Smith, Jr. Dr. Hugh Nibley said that the Restored Church of Jesus Christ grew up in the shadow of the Protestant Church just as the early Church grew up in the shadow of the Synagogue during Christ's mortal ministry.
This isn't for me. Why would anyone waste so much time learning about stuff they already know?
Not everyone knows “everything” like you, brother
Respectful interfaith dialogue is something that has been lost between our denominations for almost 200 years. It is time for us to celebrate our common ground instead of isolating ourselves ideologically.
@@thestickofjoseph haha let me know if you learn anything from this, I'll be over here listening to true prophets
@@jessekoeven3757 I agree. That's why I'm on Reddit constantly having dialog. You don't need to listen to pastor Jeff, his mission is to change your beliefs
@@thestickofjosephI am disappointed with your response stickofjoseph
The truth is, if you don't discover that LDS has an infinite truth of the divine, you aren't asking the right questions. I am not a spiritual person at all, but an overwhelming religious experience proved to me that their story is true. I know it, and I know that God knows I know it. I have no alternative but to follow if I'm to be honest to myself. The same is true for you and I know you will soon find that out. There is no other answer.
You felt the devil pretending to be a spirit of light.
Thanks for sharing your spiritual experience from God the Father and our Savior Jesus Christ.
@@Joshe.67 you're wrong
This type of spiritual arrogance is really a barrier to true interfaith conversations
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Well said. I am ex LDS. It is a cult, not biblical Christianity.
While I am sure the summit will be a success, as considered by the organizers, I suspect viewers will simply see the two different "Standards" or "Rulers of Measurement" between traditional Evangelical Christianity and the LDS faith's version of Mormonism. Since none of the LDS presenters are general authorities, whatever they share isn't considered official - unless they are sharing official Conference talks, and then providing supplemental commentary. If what the viewers take away from the presentations is the clear differentiation of Standards of Measurement on doctrinal and theological topics between the two faiths, then I can see a successful outcome for the 10 day event.
Nevertheless, I do wish you all the best on this summit.
I was thinking the same thing when the speaker in the clip was answering about the LDS belief of becoming gods of their own planet just made for a good musical, when in fact it is a teaching of the LDS church and my LDS neighbor believes it (the she said it may take millions of years!). I wonder how much more confused people will get who don't understand how LDS beliefs are sort of wide open after a person testifies that the BoM is true and Joseph Smith is a true prophet. Aren't those the actual crux of the differences we have and from those differing foundations are all other truths or false beliefs, and whether those beliefs are key to God's true eternal salvation or not?
Whewwwww I was horrified when I saw the title of this video at first because I thought it was going to be your conversion into the LDS faith 😳
What did y'all think he was going to announce?
When are you going to read Mormon, Ether, and Moroni?
I believe this causes more division. Having race discussions similiar has done nothing for race but grew the pockets of the promoters.
Bummer, was hoping for the announcement you're getting baptized in the church. Hopefully soon. :)
I can't get in.
Will you do some Islam / Muslims afterwards ?
Oh bummer thought he was going to announce he is joining the church like the 52 churches guy 😁
Protestants talking about how “the church decided which books were inspired” makes me chuckle. Which church? 😉 (spoiler alert…Catholic)
Yes... this is what was being talked about. That clip was a soundbite.
Scientists have already had to alter their theories of how the universe came to be because of new info coming in from our probes. Eventually, the Lord will teach the truth of earth life & salvation to all. Our job for now is to live by faith and love all around us.
I thought you were gonna say you were getting baptized. Lol.
He's already baptized!
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God I mean getting baptized in the LDS church.
This comment is for the Latter Day Saints. 1 Nephi 13-14. 2 Nephi 26-29. These chapters clearly state that Christ is the head of one church and satan is the head of another. To think there will ever be a bridge built between us and mainstream Christian’s, or that they will ever accept us is no different than thinking that Jesus Christ and Satan will hug it out and come together. This so called bridge building is nothing but an attempt to lure us off the covenant path. If Christ and Satan will be enemies until the very end, then their churches will be also. If your a Latter Day Saint who watches this channel, please wake up.
@nashmcintosh2578- Hello. I am a Latter-day Saint and am fully awake. I do not consider non-members my enemies. I do not feel that Jeff's Hello Saints videos are leading me off the covenant path. If you have ever seen "anti-Mormon" content on other channels or other videos by non Latter-day Saints that attempt to explain "what Mormons believe" then you know that sincere and accurate dialog and respectful conversation is sorely lacking on social media and is very much needed. I welcome the reciprocal opportunity Jeff is providing to fight criticism with curiosity. I don't see this any different than a missionary in the field trying to explain what Latter-day Saints believe or me asking my non-member friends to help me understand what they believe. Latter-day Saints want to share the Gospel with others. If non-members are closed minded to learning more, no one would ever get baptized as a Latter-day Saint either.
@@micheleh3851I understand this point of view. However, the difference is that when it comes to our missionaries, they are dressed a certain way with name tags and everyone who sees them knows exactly who they are and what their goal is. Trying to evangelize is one thing. What Jeff does is talk about building bridges and understanding one another, while undermining our church authority and attempting to sew doubt in the minds of the saints at the end of every video. Your testimony may be strong. But what about the youth of our church who may not have built a strong testimony yet? Jeff is selling a version of salvation that is attractive because it requires faith and nothing else. Our own scripture talks about charismatic people like this who would build churches up to themselves and deceive many with their speaking.
@nashmcintosh3851 - Building bridges means the communication goes both ways. I think Jeff has been very forthcoming what Hello Saints channel is about. Are you also encouraging LDS youth to avoid all friends and interactions with other youth that aren't Latter-day Saints? Hmm, that sounds like what Latter-day Saints experience from other religions who teach their kids to avoid us. I stand by what I said. People of different religions can find common ground in Jesus Christ and Christianity.
@@micheleh3851Im not suggesting that people can’t be friends with people of opposite faiths. Im suggest that over the last couple years, we have watched this man undermine our church leaders time and time again, Try to point out what he perceives to be flaws in the Book of Mormon, Admit to previously being a Mormon basher, also admit in his video about what hello saints is really about that his goal is to drive into us a belief in Christ the he believes is rooted in truth, in other words, (conversion). And post a video about Christianity and the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints possibly merging together, where he said that our reliance on words from our prophet would have to go before we could ever merge together. Also, he’s a pastor who moved to Utah. In your experience, why do pastors move to Utah? Usually it’s their agenda. I’m not saying I want division. We are supposed to be gathering them into the fold. But converting them to the true covenant path is not the same as building a bridge between the church of Christ and the church of the adversary. Jesus and Satan will be enemies until the very end. To suggest that their churches can come together is to ignore the latter day scripture we have been given. If mainstream Christian’s ever accept us as one of them, it means we are in apostasy.
Get Catholics and Orthodox involved next time please!
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@@HelloSaints We are all going to need each other as the immoral cultures of the world gain more power over our governments.
Please differentiate between the beliefs of mormonism vs the LdS church.
Mormonism is a misnomer for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that originated from the enemies of the Church who wanted to convince others that Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints weren’t Christian’s. Because the nickname was based on The Book of Mormon which readers knew testifies of Jesus, many Saints weren’t bothered by it and started mocking their enemies in the way they referred to them as “Mormons.” Eventually it became a matter of pride to identify oneself with the Book of Mormon, and for many years members of the Church also casually called themselves Mormons. But in doing so they ignored the fact that the Book of Mormon itself records Christ’s teaching to only call the church in his name and not after a man like Mormon. So, in order to avoid condemnation for forsaking the teachings of the Book of Mormon modern prophets have reemphasized the need to call the Church by it’s full name or to abbreviate it as the Church of Jesus Christ, The Church of Christ, Christ’s restored church, etc.
@@explorerofmind Who used the term Mormon? That's exactly what I mean about mixing up terms and definitions. Telling me how you choose to be called isn't differentiating the Utah Church from the many others that believe in the BoM.
@@amybaker1880, You’re right, there are many others who believe the Book of Mormon also. If they also follow the Book of Mormon, they won’t call it Mormonism, they will call it Christianity.
Well I guess presidents like Gordon B Hinckley and Thomas S Monson were doing a "victory for Satan" since they were all for being called Mormon. Check out Connor Boyack's recent Sunday Musing on the feud between Hinckley and Nelson.
@@explorerofmind They don't name it, society does.
Make sure to include the Book of Mormon evidences on the topics …
As a former Evangelical Christian Pastor, i was taught and trained to hate the Mormons for teaching weird and unbiblical teachings. I was taught that they are not Christians and they doctrine is from the devil. One day, while reading the New testament, i came across this verse in the Bible " Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" I told myself, I am a Pastor, why would i judge this Mormons as devil, when i haven't pray to God about their doctrine. I will use all my energy and all the knowledge in the Bible, and i will pray to the God of the Bible, if The Book of Mormon is from devil. I began to plead with God, begging Him to please answers my prayers because if will judge the Mormons to be of the devil, and found out that i was wrong, the same judgment will fall unto me. The answer is now a history. I testify that Jesus Christ lives, and by the power of the Holy Ghost, i know the Book of Mormon testify of the divinity of Jesus Christ that He was the God of Israel. By reading the Book of Mormon, a person will get closer to Jesus Christ by keeping His commandments through loving our neighbors and serving with no expect in return. I am now serving in the Church of Jesus Christ, voluntarily with no paid ministry or paid clergy. Its all donated labor voluntary services, unlike when i was a Pastor, we get paid and have salary. I testify that the Prophet Joseph Smith is called of God and was a Prophet. I sustain the living Prophet today who hold the keys of the Priesthood, and that is President Russell M Nelson. Im grateful for my upbringing as Evangelical Pastor, for if not so, i will not be a Latter Day Saint today and known the glorious restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Your pursuit has influenced me to reciprocate your efforts to understand evangelicals. To my relief I have found some reason. But those tracks of reasoning always run into a wall of forbidden knowledge, blasphemous to ask. A wall that keeps you all in, seemingly fearful that any outside influence requires repentance. I think that that is literally damnation.
I am curious Jeff, have you been influenced in your pursuit? And did you have to step over some of the things you were taught to do that?
Would you encourage your children to play on the freeway? Some things are warned against for our own good. The Bible is full of "be not deceived", and "test the spirits", and "beware those who want to put you back under the law that Jesus has already fulfilled". We're not fearful of outside knowledge or that it is forbidden, we just have heard and seen enough to know that that "extra knowledge" leads to no good thing for living in the freedom of love and life for God's glory alone, and not the "what I have done for God lately-type thinking."
There seems to be a fundamental disconnect on your part, Pastor, where you seem to think that it's an either or about the nature of God. Let me put it plainly. We, Latter-Day Saints Believe that God is a transcendent being who has a physical body of flesh and bone, but that the physical nature of His substance is that it is in a state of Immortality, and incorruptible. His Body and Spirit are united together in such a way that He has properties of both a physical body and a spirit. This is not uncommon among Evangelicals to have an inadequate idea about the sacred nature of our bodies, because sin often enters in, and that they have a very Greek perspective, where Spirit is superior to flesh, because of its undying nature, and their limited imaginations on the subject because of life's observations, and prophets are quite uncommon among men so revelation comes infrequently. However, we learned from the empty tomb is that Jesus Himself took his Body with Him when He was risen again to life by the Father. The apostles could touch Him, but Jesus came into the room without using the door as well, He being transcendent was able to enter in by another way, like a spirit does. Jesus' Body is now a permanent addition to his nature, and will never be separated from it again, in His great word, He says, I am alive forevermore! It is because of the sacred nature of our bodies that we are commanded to keep them pure, because our bodies are on loan to us, as a Gift to us through the plan of Salvation, and everything we put in our flesh will have an affect on the purity of our spirits.
I totally agree with your description of God's transcendent yet mortal body, but only in Jesus Christ, who emptied Himself of His god-nature to become a man as taught in Philippians 2:6-8. God the Father is Spirit and always will be spirit, as is the Holy Ghost who comes to live inside of any true believer.
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_GodIf God is a spirit, why the need for the separate person of the Holy Ghost?
@@jessekoeven3757 Exactly what I said above, the Holy Spirit is God who indwells all true believers as in Acts at the birth of Jesus' true church. Jesus calls Him the comforter, the one who comes alongside of us.
@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God if the personage of God the Father, dwells within each believer, what is the role of the Holy Ghost? Would his position not then be rendered moot by the presence of the Father and the disembodied Son?
@@jessekoeven3757 Be careful as you are approaching the mystery/understanding that God is a triune being: Father, Son, Holy Ghost. All the same, all equal, all relating in love all the time, all with different manifestations. God is not from some other distant star and was never a man before He was God. He is the God of all, there is none other as the Bible says. The three were there from the beginning in Genesis, being, loving, creating, speaking, hovering. Merciful and Gracious and Mighty is He.
The collection of 66 Books (the Bible, the Book of Books) were properly recognized by the early church as the complete authoritative canon of Scriptures not to be added to or subtracted from. From Wikipedia: "A biblical canon or canon of scripture is a set of texts which a particular religious community regards as authoritative scripture. The English word 'canon' comes from the Greek, meaning 'rule' or 'measuring stick'." The Books underwent stringent rigid spiritual tests to be approved as inspired by God.
"The early church councils applied several basic standards in recognizing whether a book was inspired by God. They were the tests of canonicity : was the Book inspired by God. Was the Book authoritative; prophetic; does it have the authority of a spiritual leader of Israel like an Old Testament prophet, king, judge, scribe, or a New Testament original apostle of the church or an associate; is it authentic with a consistent revelation of truth; is it dynamic with life changing power; were the contents of a spiritual nature; was there evidence of divine inspiration? These books were not included in the canon of Scriptures being rejected as being not inspired by God since not passing the rigid tests required) The Catholic and Greek church accepts them: Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, Song of the Three Children, Story of Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasses, 1 Maccabees and 2 Maccabees. Luther removed 1 Esdras and 2 Esdras altogether." Wikipedia ( cults always rely on other writtings from their founders they say are of God but they do not pass the test Bible books pass. The founder of Mormonism Joseph Smith was no holy man of God. He had lengthy rap sheet. He had like 40 wives and even married a 14 year old girl if my memory serves me correctly. This is not a picture of a Bible prophet. One way or another cults always say their way is the only way. However the Bible always affirms His witness to the truth through multiple witnesses like through many protestant churches and many in the Catholic church who had discovered the true Way.
So, your “biblical” standard says that Men of God can’t have multiple wives? Does that include Abraham who had 2 wives and a concubine?
Does it include Jacob who had 2 wives and 2 concubines and who loved the pretty younger sister more than the older one that only had nice eyes?
Does it include David who had 700 wives and 300 concubines? Should we consider all the writings of David and miracles that happened to him in the Bible to be fake?
The King James Bible describes Moses as having married a Midianite as well as an Ethiopian. Does that mean that we can’t trust the Books of Moses that make up the first 5 books of the Bible?
What about the Angel in Genesis 16? He told a woman to return back to her husband and his other wives to be part of an abusive polygamous relationship. Was he a fake Angel?
I can respect your opinion about polygamy, but don’t pretend it comes from the Bible when it doesn’t. I have too much respect for that book to let statements like that go unchallenged when I see it.
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Will David Boyce be invited?
I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting David yet. Hopefully someday!
@@HelloSaints I’d love to see a convo between you two
Sadly I don't believe that you have held those who are speaking to what the Mormon church holds as truth and doctrine. These people who you have on your channel all have nuanced beliefs and statements that are not fully held within their own churches teachings.
Be aware that Joseph Smith actually added verses to his own Inspired Version of the Holy Bible (I'm not talking about BofM, DOC and Pear of Great Price). Look at what verses he added to our previously written books of the Holy Bible, W H Y he added them and then consider this warning God gave us:
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:6
I was shocked to see all the words he added to Isaiah, even including a prophecy about himself! No wonder the LDS church no longer uses his "inspired version" but chooses to stick with the KJV, it's just too embarrassing, I think, otherwise, why NOT use the version your prophet penned?
@@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God Maybe some Mormons here could answer that for us.
@nrtnrt6676 To answer your inquiries. The JST was commissioned by Jesus Christ to expand the scriptures, increase understanding, and improve uniformity between the testimonies given by the Bible and the rest of Canonized Scripture. The truth is that many records were lost or deliberately destroyed between the various disasters wrough upon the Kingdoms of the Hebrews throughout their history in both the Old and New Testaments, as such, their testimony is incomplete and their God desired that incompletion to be corrected. Thus, he inspired a prophet to restore that which had been lost.
@@jessekoeven3757 Thankyou Sir, May i ask why you think parts of the New Testament were lost and also when they were lost?
@nrtnrt6676 mostly the OT. The New Testament is modified primarily for understanding purposes. Many modern readers and scholars tend to observe the NT through a hellenized lens since most of the surviving manuscripts are in koine Greek, when it would have been written in Aramaic or Hebrew and faithful Jews tended to eschew all things Greek, including their philosophies, including a disanthropomorphised view of deity.
When are you going to finish reading the Book of Mormon?
He answered elsewhere that he's finished it, recorded it and is editing it now!
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