Variator Bushing Replacement : Removal, Installation, & Fit Info

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @dosbox907
    @dosbox907 7 лет назад +2

    unbelievably good video. i had no clue stippling had a word. I called it "jury rig fitting". ive used it a few times on vintage snowmobile bogie bearing replacements.
    but yeah, this is the most in depth repair video ive ever seen. you truly are a master of your craft.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  7 лет назад +3

      Thank you. I had no idea about stippling until a friend on the forum who is an aircraft mechanic and all around mechanical genius talked about it.

    • @josepeixoto3384
      @josepeixoto3384 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot It's similar to knurling done on a lathe

  • @IosuamacaMhadaidh
    @IosuamacaMhadaidh 4 года назад

    Always great content! Thorough and great side tips. I'm about a year in to scooting, beginning some mods and upgrades, and find these videos quite helpful. More helpful than probably 90-95% of all other scooter tuning vids. I've got an itch for a motorcycle now but I'll always keep a scooter for sure!

  • @Boviathan
    @Boviathan 7 лет назад +2

    I bought my cy50 T3 used with 49,000 on it and every weight thing had flat spots I fed a jump rope's rope down the spark plug hole with a bicycle spoke to keep the crank from spinning and break the nut loose of the variator

  • @BrendaEM
    @BrendaEM 5 лет назад

    Ah! I have that same great micrometer--AND- those same crappy telescoping gauges. I wish the face were just a bit harder.
    Good tutorial.

  • @rkstew
    @rkstew 8 лет назад

    very thorough and instructive, Thank you.

  • @herminigildodelacruzjr1752
    @herminigildodelacruzjr1752 7 лет назад +1

    as expected another great informative video thanks and god speed

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 5 лет назад

    As usual,great knowledge and valuable info here,thanks.

  • @robertengland9352
    @robertengland9352 2 года назад

    Excellent video buddy

  • @virentiwari37
    @virentiwari37 4 года назад

    It is very useful video for me.
    Thank u sir.

  • @sajmirbekteshi9113
    @sajmirbekteshi9113 2 месяца назад

    You are the best

  • @OldBoans
    @OldBoans 8 лет назад

    Great video. Thinking of looking at changing mine on my 100 yamaha aerox. Never opened it up since bought but it's only done 4.5000 miles.... It's alright but I think there is some slip or drop in acceleration. For now though. Thanks and excellent video. From Scotland. Happy New Year.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +TG Connell Thanks. Happy New Year to you as well! SOmetimes it's just easier/better to get an aftermarket variator, so explore your options.

  • @drdrew3
    @drdrew3 2 года назад

    The whole variator kit only costs $19 (rollers, pulley, gear, variator, boss). Just replace it every few years and save hours of labor. Takes 10 minutes to swap out for a brand new unit

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  2 года назад +2

      Not all variators cost $19 and you never learn anything if you don't try it. I fixed my Malossi variator that costs $100 with a $10 bushing after learning the process with this cheap variator and I've learned a bit about processes that I had never done before. This sort of thing isn't for everyone, but I enjoy learning and improving my skillset.

  • @maxtraveler8160
    @maxtraveler8160 6 лет назад

    Great video’s thanks
    I just got a 1999 zuma cw50 it was sitting in a bedroom closet since 2002! Had no battery or gas and is in perfect condition I did clean oil tank and bleed oil injector new battery and air filter
    It started on first try and runs fine (1250 miles ) now my concern is bearing grease on all bearings which is beyond my skill and would cost a lot. Will grease last this long I’ve put about 50 miles on so far with no problems

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  6 лет назад

      Grease can last a very long time. Not sure how it's doing around 20 years in. Most bearings are lubed by engine or gear oil. Others like front wheel and steering can be checked. There are service manuals available for those scoots. I would suggest finding one. Should be very helpful and give you step by step directions and specs.

  • @thedaydreamer7972
    @thedaydreamer7972 2 года назад

    Great video, such detail, when replacing the rollers, does it matter how they go in? I noticed that one side shows the shiny gold ring on the roller, does it have to be in a certain direction? TY again

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  2 года назад

      They're usually OK either way, but you could install them so the side with a coating is against whatever wall of the paths that it will contact when accelerating. So, whatever wall it will be slung into based on direction of rotation would have the coated side of the rollers facing it. That or check a manual, but most manuals won't bother to mention that.

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 3 года назад

    Any idea where to get cover bushings for 139qmb gy6? I even bought a new cover , but it has no bushings! My starter bushing is worm severely, it may stop working, and the previous owner removed the kick starter! I also need the kick starter components! They even removed the main Stand, who knows what else they have done, I was told it just needed a carb, and exhaust, but when I seen it had low compression, and oil in the exhaust port, I did a bbk, since it needed rebuilding anyway, great video!!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  3 года назад

      I think I answered this question, maybe on another comment, but it popped up again. Anyway, try PartsForScooters. Look at their diagrams and they have most stuff.

  • @georgejennings8026
    @georgejennings8026 5 лет назад

    Know of any reason gas gauge won't work ? Ive ruled out the sending unit . Whatever the problem its from the plug that the sending unit plugs into back to the gauge . Thanks

  • @j3fron
    @j3fron 5 лет назад

    Well what you need in order to make long last for that bushing is just only light coat it with high viscosity grease
    I mean very thin coat is enough
    And check it for at least about 4000km
    And Recoat it again if needed

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      I haven't had much luck with grease on these small scoots. Seems to just make stuff stick to it and then it doesn't work as smoothly. What would be great is a sealed variator like some big scoots have, where seals help to keep the grease in, but that would still leave some coating of grease on the boss.

    • @johnfloyd2551
      @johnfloyd2551 5 лет назад

      No matter how little grease i put on my variator, it always finds its way over to the inside of the clutch bell=slippage. Thats with a very thin film on the bushing.. once it gets a few miles on it it slips excessively on take off, take back apart and degrease clutch pads and bell

  • @awesomeluis
    @awesomeluis 3 года назад

    Thanks for such an awesome video, learned a lot! Out of curiosity, would you happen to know what bronze material your bushing is specifically?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  3 года назад

      As specific as I know is sintered bronze. You may be able to look for info on Oilite and find more detail.

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @thedaydreamer7972
    @thedaydreamer7972 2 года назад

    Hi, I have taken off many variatiors, Im tryn to get the variator off of my prescott 50i gy6 and the nut will not come off, I tried my usual torque wrench that always works and my buddy came by with large set of socket wrench and he couldnt do it, have you had a situation where you cant get the variator off and what did you do? Id hate to not be able to upgrade this scooter TY again!!!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  2 года назад

      I never use a torque wrench to remove fasteners. Install only.
      I use an impact wrench, or a good drill should do it these days.
      Otherwise, you'll need to hold the crank still while trying to remove the nut. Something like the affiliate link below is good to have around.
      amzn.to/3r43Sm8

  • @morkovetz
    @morkovetz 6 лет назад

    What is your opinion about using a needle rolling bearing instead of a bushing ? Do you think it will last longer ?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  6 лет назад +1

      I think it could do well with the radial load (spinning around), but the axial load (sliding in and out) may not be great for it. Also, can't really be lubricated unless you can machine it to accept seals on both ends.

  • @kristibrown9211
    @kristibrown9211 7 лет назад

    Hey, I know this video is kinda old, but I am hoping you might still be monitoring the comments and may be able to help me. I have a 2014 TaoTao atm 50 a. It is my 2nd scoot in 5 yrs and I do all work myself. I have been having variator issues. I have now replaced it 4 times. It just keeps wearing out around the inner circumference, like where the bushing is. It ends up with too much play and causes rattling and if not replaced quick enough, will cause the belt to wear and eventually break. I have all washers and everything installed properly, and always make sure that I tighten the nut back down to the specified torque. I have, over time, in trying to troubleshoot this issue, replaced everything under the cvt cover with the exception of the crankshaft. Btw, when I first install a new variator, it will be fine for a couple of months, but around about 4-6 months in, that familiar rattling sound begins again and I remove the cvt cover and try to 'wiggle' the variator and, sure enough it has happened again! Do you have any idea what could be causing this? Its driving me crazy! Thank you in advance for any help you can offer!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  7 лет назад

      Do you feel a vibration at any point? Something similar to a tire out of balance? I had a problem with a shaft causing vibes and it was leading to premature wear. These variators are kind of junk, and that's why I added a better bushing, but they shouldn't fail like they will if there's some sort of external influence.

    • @kristibrown9211
      @kristibrown9211 7 лет назад

      90GTVert 90GTVert YES! I do! As a matter of fact I had my rear tire replaced and I thought that it might be out of balance, but I never related it to the variator problem because the tire replacement was after the variator problems had already started. So do you think that it is my crankshaft causing vibes, and therefore wearing out the variator? Or do you think that it is possible that my tire is out of balance (or rim may be bent, although, it doesn't look bent so it would have to be very slight if at all) could vibes from that cause wear on the variator? And btw, Thank you so much for your help!

    • @kristibrown9211
      @kristibrown9211 7 лет назад

      Btw, I don't know if this will help, but I do seem to notice that when I first put in a new variator and everything is good and tight, with no play, the vibration is much stronger, then as time goes on and the variator shows more and more play, the vibes lessen. At the point when the variator is really loose and must be replaced, the vibes are almost unnoticeable. Its like whatever is causing the vibes is restricted by the nice, tight new variator, and therefore the vibes are felt stronger, then as the vibes loosen (wear out) the variator, they dissipate. I hope that makes sense.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  7 лет назад

      I don't know of any super easy way to find out what the cause is. I inspected all parts of mine. I replaced bearings in the gearbox, checked shafts for runout, and all sorts of things.

    • @kristibrown9211
      @kristibrown9211 7 лет назад

      90GTVert Ok, well I will just have to figure it out by taking it one part at a time. Good thing variators are a fairly cheap part to replace! And I have gotten good at recognizing the symptoms as soon as they start so that I can get a new variator in there before it causes any belt damage. I will figure this out! eventually! Thank you so much for all your help!

  • @adibmeerza2911
    @adibmeerza2911 8 лет назад

    Superb video ! I want to ask,is it okay to make some dimple just like on the golf ball to the outer surface of the drive ball ? In my theory,I can store a small amount of grease in the dimple holes. I own a Yamaha Mio Soul 115cc. Cheers mate (:

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +Adib Meerza Thanks. Do you mean the drive boss? I think that would be a bad idea. It would sling the grease outward and be gone in short order, and likely end up on everything in close proximity.

    • @adibmeerza2911
      @adibmeerza2911 8 лет назад

      +90GTVert do you have a facebook account ? I like to chat with you. Im from Malaysia. Here,there are lot of performance part for our Yamaha scooter model. But not all of it is giving great performance. Im the type who like to DIY parts,like you did on your video. It will be great if I can chat with you. Thanks mate (:

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      I'm not a facebook fan, sorry. I have a forum. Myself and lots of people are active there. 49ccscoot.proboards.com

  • @johnfloyd2551
    @johnfloyd2551 5 лет назад

    New variator, less than 500 miles this bushing already has excessive clearance/play, it didnt have when first installed, im thinking quality issue, can anyone suggest the best brand to buy that wont wear the bushing out prematurely?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +1

      Most importantly, steer clear of the cheap stuff. Go with something not made in China, like Malossi, Polini, SSP-G, Naraku.

    • @johnfloyd2551
      @johnfloyd2551 5 лет назад

      Im running ssp-g exhaust and ncy cdi and direct coil.. got a bando kevlar belt, not sure what possesed me to skimp on tbe variator.. guess i was trying to saveca little $$..but Yeah, im not gonna lie i went with a 20 dollar one, i pull the cover, a week later, about 150 miles give or take on it, i was upgrading to a kevlar belt, was suprised and dissappointed that the bushing already had excessive play in it, also the slides were already spliting, i was stuck with no choice but to continue to run it a few more weeks,but im looking into buying a quality naraku one. On another note I wish there was better cooling options for the cvt, on my qmb139 engine, the little plastic disc fan over the drive face seems useless.. very inferior compared to the aluminum fan on the 150s and other motors, i.m.o

  • @kp-pi2zo
    @kp-pi2zo 5 лет назад

    I have been noticing a very distinct sound from my variator section. Its like metal on metal kind, smthg that one gets when the bendix doesnt fully recoil. Although in my case it does. My concern is that the theres too much play between variator bushing and boss. Although its done just 25000km and is stock honda. I have no pick up or speed issues . But this sound is worrisome. What are the symptoms of a worn variator bushing??? . If lets s say the play is less, what affect will it have on performance and why. ?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      When my bushing would wear out, it and the boss would be obviously scarred and I could see discoloration and dust on them. The variator would then have trouble moving freely and acceleration would suffer quite a bit. If it wore very slowly, like over 25,000km, then you probably wouldn't have all of that dust and maybe no really obvious signs of wear because it was likely slow and steady. You should be able to tell if the play is excessive just by feel, but if not there are specs in the vid as well as info about measuring.

  • @94f1senna
    @94f1senna 8 лет назад

    Hello mate, your voice has changed, what would make my peugeot speedfight 2 ac 50cc not pull to full capacity. the scooter is holding back sometimes and other times revving fine, belts and clutch and varitor are all OK, carb is fine, I have gone thru everything and cleaned repaired and renewed. so any ideas. could it be electrical. cheers Mark.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +94f1senna Carb tuning is my first thought. Especially if you notice differences with weather changes.

  • @Music-qe1gt
    @Music-qe1gt 8 лет назад

    i have quad but has the same engine as your I was wondering what is the best setup so I can get a good take off because at the minute it take about 5 second to hit powerband it a 100cc and has all malossi parts on it pls help

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +Music I'm guessing this is a Minarelli powered youth ATV then? I have a few types of engines in different scoots. If you've got the Malossi OR in that list of parts, it should just be a matter of time spent tuning. Try different sets of clutch springs and see if that gets it into the power quicker. If you can't make much progress there, it may be the roller weights need to be lighter or you could try swapping torque driver angles. Things like ditching the starter clutch and e-start and switching to a light flywheel or inner rotor help it respond more quickly, but if you've already got a pile of nice parts I'd definitely invest some time into fine tuning.

  • @markleemhuis8318
    @markleemhuis8318 8 лет назад

    Can you do a how to about adjusting a 4t carburator???

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад +1

      +Mark Leemhuis Maybe this will be of assistance :
      ruclips.net/video/K5j8gHg5kMc/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/MLpkf2LINzo/видео.html
      www.49ccscoot.com/faq/carbtune.html

    • @markleemhuis8318
      @markleemhuis8318 8 лет назад

      Thank you very much!!!

  • @Parkittaja
    @Parkittaja 5 лет назад

    My malossi multivars bushing is not rolling good, moped wont run with ou pushing it and giving throttle. Variator is almost brandnew. Only 1500drived. Can i fix it?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      Sure. I've done it to my Malossi OR vari. Same as shown in this vid, just different bearing size.

    • @Parkittaja
      @Parkittaja 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot Can you please write shortly how i can fix it? Like do i heaten up variator and put bushing in it or? Do i put oil on bushing?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      @@Parkittaja Have you watched the video? That explains the whole process in detail. Must be heated/pressed. Oiling won't get the bushing in there.

    • @Parkittaja
      @Parkittaja 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot Sorry my english is bad

  • @georgejennings8026
    @georgejennings8026 5 лет назад

    Would it be ok to place small amount of grease on boss?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      If it's not a sealed bushing area (like my TMAX that has a seal on each side of the variator) then it will likely attract dirt and dust. You can try it and see how it goes for you, but I haven't had it do anything good for me with unsealed variators. If you try it, the idea would be to wipe it down and just leave a film. Anything more than that will sling out and cause belt slip.

    • @georgejennings8026
      @georgejennings8026 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot ive been inspecting my belt and was just wondering . haven't done it . going replace belt soon thinking about experimenting with roller weights . thanks

  • @crisrose9707
    @crisrose9707 6 лет назад

    my ped has done 14000 miles... should I take a look at the variator?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  6 лет назад

      You should take a look at pretty much everything at this point.

    • @crisrose9707
      @crisrose9707 6 лет назад

      well that sounds like fun :) the ped is a 2003 piaggio liberty 50 2t. It might take a while to get round to sorting it out though :/ it runs good though.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  6 лет назад +1

      Even the big scoots like my 500cc TMAX that tend to take mileage better usually have something like a 12,000 mile service where a lot of things are to be checked/serviced. The idea is to keep on top of things while it still runs well to avoid it not running well. Find a service manual for it if possible, or even an owner's manual, and it should detail what they want checked/replaced at what intervals.

  • @anthonybianconi2185
    @anthonybianconi2185 5 лет назад

    3:09 what are those holes in the side plate for?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      The drill indentations? Those were from me trying to balance it.

  • @user-qx7rx1je2o
    @user-qx7rx1je2o 4 года назад

    Καλημέρα.!!! Από τί μέταλλο εκτός από σίδηρο, μπορώ να φτιάξω δαχτυλίδι;

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  4 года назад

      What ring?

    • @user-qx7rx1je2o
      @user-qx7rx1je2o 4 года назад

      Το δαχτυλίδι που αλλάζετε στο κέντρο του βαριατόρ- επειδή θέλω να κάνω μία μετατροπή και πρέπει να γίνει αλλαγή - θέλω να ξέρω αν μπορώ να το φτιάξω στον τόρνο μπρούτζινο ή χάλκινο.- Ευχαριστώ πολύ.!!!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  4 года назад

      @@user-qx7rx1je2o Yes. Bronze would be great. What I used is an Oilite bronze bushing or bearing. They are a good choice if you can find one that will fit because they are oil impregnated so they lubricate a little.

    • @user-qx7rx1je2o
      @user-qx7rx1je2o 4 года назад

      Ναι.!! Ευχαριστώ με βοήθησες πολύ.!!👌👍

  • @sisano_2162
    @sisano_2162 8 лет назад

    90GTVert do you know the name of the 2 stroke OIL you use for your VENTO TRITON R4 49.9cc and where i can purchase the oil.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +Onasis Becerra I like the profile pic! I pre-mix all of my two-strokes and use AMSOil Saber Professional because its' alright at relatively lean mix ratios. There are lots of good oils out there. Just make sure you choose something that is safe for pre-mix or injection, whichever you use. Some oils work for either.

    • @sisano_2162
      @sisano_2162 8 лет назад

      Mine is oil injection could I still use AMSOIL saber professional even though mine is oil inject.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  8 лет назад

      +Onasis Becerra No, I don't think it's a good injector oil. They offer other 2T oils that are injector safe though.

  • @bigcrain89
    @bigcrain89 6 лет назад

    Where did you get the bushings from?

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning 6 лет назад

    Buy a Honda or Yamaha scooter and just ride it.

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?

  • @Cmartinhewitt
    @Cmartinhewitt 8 лет назад

    I have a Tao Tao my air /fuel mixture screw keeps vibrating out based on it needs to be set so far out to start do you have any suggestions?