Ryobi Zero Turn Mower and what you need to know before you buy
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- This is a second follow up video that I'm making on the new Ryobi Zero Turn Mower with joy stick. If you are thinking about purchasing this new mower, you may want to watch this so you know what to look for before and during ownership
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One handed driving leaves another extremity for beerage! And at 3:50 I visually confirmed beerage holders on the left. Unfortunately for me, my yard is tiny (yard size is indirectly proportional to junk size) and I ain't got no $$$$$$$$$$. BUT...I am loving battery powered mowing with my Makita 36v self propelled walk behind mower. No stink, no gas, no 2 cycle oil, NO NOISE! I am embracing the future and not looking back!! Thanks for this entertaining video Clint! HAPPY LABOR DAY TO ALL!!!!
Thanks for the awesome feedback and happy Labor Day Kraz 👊👊👊
Great video. I never expected to laugh while watching a vídeo about a lawn mower. I subscribed and look forward to catching up on the other vids!
Freaking awesome. Welcome to the channel Sol👊👊
It’s the future! Works great - I got the 42” and for a good deal! Keeping Gas and oil far away from farms, lawns and gardens is healthy and very 2024. 🚜
I have the 42” and I love it. No issues at all and no maintenance. I plug it into my wall 110 wall outlet. I’ve been using this thing since early spring and my electric bill has not budged 🤷🏽♂️. Simple and easy to use. Like he said, after maybe the first 2-3 cuts you really get the hang of the controls and it’s smooth sailing after that
How do you clean the blades?
It’s great! I also have the 42” - very easy to use. No chemicals and its sooo quiet
I think these are fantastic and appreciate your hands-on feedback. Like others say, though, I just can't justify the price, even of the smaller ones. I may look for someone's depleted lead acid 30 or 42" and pick it up cheap and perform a Lithium swap next year. Considering the JD I bought for $300 still runs like a top, I cannot justify $5k for a mower, even if it's this cool.
This is one of my favorite videos from you, though. Thanks for the details and looking forward to the Bluetti review!
This was a good review! 👍🏼
I like the fabricated 54” deck on that one.
...and great review, the kind of video I needed to see. Many Thanks!
Just bought one, oh yeah. Thanks for the entertaining videos.
Let me know how you like it Josh, and thanks for the comment brother
@ToolReviewZone for sure. I think the charging system and or batteries were off. I returned it and bought a Ferris 60 inch ISX800. The Ferris has a 27 hp and I would say the electric kept up with it Nad provided a nice cut even when my grass was way over grown. The Ryobi also did just as good if not better for traction, although it was on a dryer day. The sound on the Ferris is so much more.
Around 5:35. Weather and conditions also affect gas powered mowers. You'll have to use more gas on tall wet grass. You'll have to use more charge on tall wet grass. And, instead of having to run to the gas station for more gas (and oil), with electric, you just recharge right where you are at. Very convenient. Just like the 70% less maintenance. And, when Spring comes, you charge the batteries and slap them in and off you go. No Spring tuneup needed.
I have a Country Clipper Charger gas zero turn with joystick operation.. its a monster, like a riding a brush hog with a lazyboy on top, 10 acres in 2 hours, zero fatigue and while it will absolutely destroy brush, it leaves a beautiful cut in grass.. I have no idea why they aren't the talk of the world
I'll ha e to check them out 👊
I have used my RyeObie battry powered push for 2 years now and love it. I want them to make a electric bike that uses the 40 volt battery.
My 42" is coming... 05/22/2024. Have yet to unload it and put it together. Like an 8-Year-old on Christmas Eve.
I used to love mowing the grass until I injured my right foot in 2017. Since then it's been just a pain in the foot.
I've been looking into zero-turn, joystick, mowers for years.
Great video
I need this in depth of the review on the Ryobi lawn tractor.
Glad you addressed the warranty. 5 years sounds cool until you look at the price. The batteries should have a 10 year with up to 80% capacity type of warranty. Or number of full cycles. They are the biggest cost.
5yrs is pretty generous. If you’re smart, you’ll nurse them year 1-3, then absolutely abuse them, within warrantable usage of course ;-), to ensure they all fail within the next two years well before the 5 years is up. THEN, this deal makes good economic sense because you got a few more good years worth of batteries out of it.
Currently using Ego push mower and other lawn equipment and when those start to die probably jumping over to Ryobi as I am all in on the 18v tools and really like them. Neighbor has one of these (not sure of the exact model) but it has the joystick like this. He let me use it several times and I must say it seems really nice but that joystick is not much fun to use. I simply couldn't ever hold it steady. My yard is not on a slope and not very bumpy at all. But my arm was always moving around causing me to move the stick. Not concerned about lines in my grass but it really looked like I had few beers in me while cutting as the cut lines were all over! lol I've never used a zero turn with the dual handles so can't really compare it much. But at least having a free hand let me wave to everybody driving by!
No one cent spent mowing... I guess your electricity is free then.
He just uses a 100ft extension cord to his neighbors house. He'll ever know.
Solar.... Mines free as well. I have a ego riding mower though.
@@Gamerz00760 solar panels are free also.
@garylittle8985 you are really stretching now.
@@ToolReviewZoneno he’s not the truth just hurts you ! Thumbs down for lies 😂
So close to pulling the trigger on this, well the 42" version. It's now $3999 and can get 10% off. I mean kinda tough to beat that! So sick of my old rider, belts snapping, having to go fill up my gas cans, changing the oil, filters, winterizing it, Hot, loud as hell etc..On top of that, it's a rider and have to make a million 3 point turns on the thing.
ii would do it, peace of mind all the time so you never have to do anythin extra. i cant wait to get one.
Go for it. Just make sure your register those batteries as soon as you buy it. Otherwise they might play gotcha or shorten your warranty.
@@NickWindham Bought a 48" Ariens icon instead. Didn't like the joystick feel, when I sat on one on home depot and heard they have an issue in the heat and I live in Southern SC.
@@micker9830 Just Googled that one, NICE! Looks cool and should last you several years. I’m sure after you’re done with it, EV mowers will offer exponentially more bang for the buck than they do today.
Every Ryobi mower out front of my local home Depot has been sitting there for so long, they are all faded from the sun and no longer Ryobi color
Same with my local store in SC. I’m thinking that the warranty is no longer valid from being stored outside in the weather for months . Manual clearly states to store inside and avoid getting it wet. I wonder what Ryobi and Home Depot have to say about that.
I wanted one before they came out. I have 3 mowers that will crank up after sitting 3 years. They all have bad decks , and I have to weld a new one on. The bottom line for me is the deck quality and long-term availability 🤔
I have a 3 1/2 year old Ryobi electric zero turn. Less than a year into ownership it would not charge. Took it to Ryobi Authorized Service Center. They said they had no room for it and just left it outside. It was there for almost three months. They didn’t know anything about them our how to work on them, so they just threw parts at it until it worked. That’s fine for warranty work, but not on my dime. Next time it quit I took it to a different Ryobi Authorized Service Center. Same issue, they “thought” it might be a rear wheel drive motor, but not sure. Would cost about $450 to replace (out of warranty not). I took it home, bought the motor online and repaired it myself. It’s a great mower when it works, but they don’t know how to repair them. Just figure it’s junk after warranty runs out. And plan on waiting a long while if it goes to repair shop.
With lawnmower, batteries (for mower and charging), solar panels will be around 10k or more. Should recoup the savings on gas and oil cost in only 50 years.
More like 6
@@T_gaming28Who is spending $1700/year on gas and maintenance supplies for their riding mower?
@T_gaming28 6k is just for the lawnmower. Add the extra batteries, solar panels and the batteries they charge.
@@andrewjones9886 mower is down to $$k right now,
@@eosjoe565 Gas mower will run circles around these and are magnitude's cheaper in the long run, plus far more environmentally friendly. These people have absolutely no common sense or understanding of how any of this works out! Gas mowers use only $150-$300 a year in gas and every other year $80 tune up. Gas is the clear winner here and will outlast those batteries by decades!
My old clunker served me well but it's on the last few cuts. A 30" should work for me. I went to the HD website and there were quite a few reviews regarding (customers receiving) damaged, used or missing parts units. Anyone had an issues with the quality of the unit?
Most products are priced higher earlier in the life cycle. Let’s hope that holds, as it seems whether we like it or not electric is where we’re heading.
Agreed Ken 👊👊👊
I also wanna see a comparison between this Ryobi and whatever the top of the line EGO equivalent is.
Have 30". Cuts well. 1.5 hour time at 15¢ /charge. Easy use & care. I prefer this over gas, but what issues will I meet, only question. I'm having trouble going down hill and it breaking away, sure would like help figuring that out. Price and support unstable, please figure this out to stabilize using battery. Thanks for video, your yard looks like mine, wonder how your hills perform
Seems legit. Basically just a giant downward facing cordless drill attached to a mower deck. Corrosion/moisture infiltration would be my only long-term worry and/or some kind of odd software glitch. Best of all is that it's quiet, which is great for owner and the neighbors.
I would wait a couple more years to let to price drop, as well, but the concept is sound.
Price definitely need to drop Karl 👊
I want the eco flow for our golf cart in Florida
Any maintenance on sharpening blades or one set last all year? Also did use battery bank to power blade sharpening tool.
I used a file
Sorry for being so abrupt but I can't find anything on how the 30 inch bagger works on the new Ryobi iDrive. Can you shed some light on the subject? I want to thank you for your awesome in-depth review of the 46 inch Ryobi iDrive! It's nice to finally see that somebody's using a rubber for this grass chute:-)
From what I have read, they baggers, especially the power boost bagger, suck on these.
I found the same reviews as micker98230. Not good. Some say you bag the clippings only to have to dump on ground and rake it up.
There’s no grease zeros on the front pivot wheels? Seems like there should be, everybody sooner or later. Breaks a blade spindle. Wonder what these are like..
Cliff, I truly appreciate your efforts in explaining the pros and cons of not only this particular lawn tractor but with so many other tools and equipment from different manufacturers in very simple to understand jargon and funny euphemisms. I don't have a need for this machine but am interested in the smaller 30 inch rider by Ryobi. I also like the push mower, but want caster wheels up front. I currently have a 30 inch cub cadet self-propelled push mower that I am pretty happy with.
As far as the casters go... cub cadet is by far the best I've ever seen. More lawnmowers need those!
Can you cut only on the 12v batteries?
Really mowing down competition with ease of use
What about the other riding lawn mower non zero turn ?
What about storing the mower in a shed or garage with no climate control? Won't the weather changes throughout the year from hot to cold ruin the batteries? I accidentally kept one of my 40v ryobi batteries in my barn through the winter and its dead. So i keep all batteries 18v and 40v inside the house.
What about winter storage in an unheated garage? The manual says take out all batteries if temp. below 50F and store in temp. controlled space. Anyone having problems, since Fall is here.
If your garage is attached to the house then it may not get cold enough in your garage to matter. Usually a little bit of heat escapes from the house into the garage.
they should have a notch in the joystick for all the way locks u in forward and back a bit allows u to turn u dont really want to be turning at full speed anyways
I live in a rural area of Wisconsin where people have acres of grass! I have yet to see a battery powered lawn tractor or zero turn mower in use. I saw one at Home Depot and the price was the deterrent. I could buy a lot of cans of gas before I would ever reach the $3000 or more price for an electric one.
It’s not just the cans of gas. You’re going to save 2x the amount you spend on gas over the course of 3 years. Plus you have to maintain and de-winterize your gas mowers…something you don’t have to worry about with electric.
@@BasketballBeastWiam No you're not. Gas is considerably cheaper to maintain, will run circles around that Ryobi, and last far longer! Your batteries have only a 3 year limited warranty and you'll be lucky to get a couple years out of them. At $2700 for a set of the 80v and $1440 for the set of 40v. You're nuts!!
@@EnufAlrdy909 you’re just wrong
Start saving as soon as you can for when it is time to replace all of those batteries. I love my walk behind battery mower, but man replacing those will be expensive to say the least.
Well they have over 5+yrs to save, because they are warrantied for that long, and the gas savings alone, would probably pay for them. In 5+ years, a new battery will be like $400 maybe less. Lithium is getting very cheap.
All these negative comments from ppl that don't even have one is what gets me
It's great right 🤣👊
Hi Clint! Matthew in Hudson, OH. Toolgirl’s hubby. I just bought the 42” version of this. How do you clean under the deck? Im guessing power washer is a non-starter! Wondered what you do - especially after mowing wet grass. Thanks!!
I read where someone said they used their leaf blower.
I power wash mine. Never had any issues with it. The blades and deck are basically the same as a gas mower. Hope this helps brother man from Ohio 👊👊👊
You say no maintenance? So there are no grease zerks anywhere? That generally indicates the spindles get replaced as an entire expensive unit, rather than greasing the bearings then just replacing bearings when needed. Or is it even more expensive and the spindles are direct drive electric motors as opposed to belt driven from a single motor? Lack of maintenance is cheap the first season, but maintenance gets exponentially more expensive as things eventually do need fixed.
If you can even get the parts!
@ProblemChild-xk7ix
Good point, that's another popular trick they pull to make things disposable rather than repairable.
Just so you know, there are Ryobi service trucks all over the world to help repair these if something happens.
Glad that you’re happy with it. Those high prices does not bring joy to me, just😢. You’re talking about loose bolts, if that was assembled by a HD employe that explains not having tightened bolts. Any one buying a mower that’s preassembled from there better tighten every nut & bolt before first use. You said that you haven’t had any expenses operating the mower, so was the power bank given to you, if so great. Not everyone of your viewers have wads of cash that they can throw around
Well I’m sold.
I didnt spend one penny mowing either...my lawn is dead from this Texas drought.
Yup...nearly the same here in Kansas
I've generally been against these 80v mowers (and other brands cordless) because there just not economical. There is such a price premium that almost nobody would break even in a reasonable time, if at all, especially if batteries need to be replaced.
The Spring Black Friday deal finally made the ZTs price competitive with a comparable gas machine, but there's still the question of battery longevity.
Well, today I named to snag one of the 30" ZT on the close out deals they're running, for $799. At that price is worth a shot, even if the batteries need to be replaced in a couple years.
Fingers crossed...
Offer still stands...3.5 acres, southeast Ohio, ill even come get ya.
What's the off exactly 🤔
@@ToolReviewZone Lol! I commented on your first vid about having some “less than ideal” yard available for endurance testing! Was kind of in jest…kind of….😁
@@thadhaines1631 ohh ok 🤣 I didn't see that one 👊
I need one to replace the noisy 42” John Deere tractor style mower.
Smeeesh that like button. 👀👉🏽 👍🏽
I just got the 42” brand new for 900 and ryobi is sending me the batteries and charger for free.
the mower is real nass like. moist.😂
So I just threw out my back replacing the carb, starter and switch for my lawnmower. Also lost half a tank of gas as it turns out the gas tank is leaking... im tired of my lawn mower and so i think im going to go to the bank and get this bad boy
Yes. I am one of those people. 😃
EGO vs. RYOBI Z mover comparison?
how long does a battery last before they need to be repalced?
There is a 5yr warranty on the batteries, so at least 5 years lol. In 5+ years, those batteries will probably be half the price.
Sooo... what you are saying is that you spent at least $2500 (EcoFlow + solar panels) so that you would have $0 charging costs. That seems like a pretty big charging cost. Assuming you cut grass 7 months out of the year that is $357/mo to charge (granted it's only one year). For $2500 I could purchase 728 gallons of gasoline which, using about 30 gallons per season to cut my lawn equates to around 25 years worth of gasoline. It is almost a certainty that in 25 years you will have had to at least replace your set of 80V and 40V batteries a couple times at a cost of over $4000 (3 x $900 + 4 x $400).
But is your gas mower comparable in size to the Ryobi?
@@T_gaming28It's a bit larger. It's a 25HP John Deere garden tractor with a 48-inch deck and weighs about the same (~700 lb). I also use it to pull 500 lb. loads in a lawn cart and a 900 lb. lawn roller.
I didn't say it would cost you 0 dollars, I said it cost (me zero dollars) as I already have the solar setup.
@@eosjoe565 that Ryobi is a 52in and equivalent to 42hp
@@eosjoe565 I should also ask how big your lawn is
Call me fussy, but the joy stick is not for me. Also, how does it do for scalping the grass? With the joy stick and the deck raising handle on the same side, you can't raise rhe deck while mowing. The deck for my Exmark zero turn is lifted with my right foot making it easy to avoid scalping. Also, my Exmark is 20 years old and running like a champ. I wonder where that Ryobi will be in 20 years.
I want your entire setup.
Going up for sale in a year or two Amanda 😎👊👊👊
@@ToolReviewZoneHow do we get information about this sale? I love the concept of these things but not the price
I go to the homeless despot all the time and I’ve yet to see one of these in person. I’m 5’22” and 300ish lbs because I’m a maaan, will this mower fit someone my size?
The HD stores around me each show (1) in stock
The two stores close to me never have the 54", but always have the others sitting out there.
Yes you have the electric to charge it and you had to buy the panels and charger
The big question I have is PARTS and SERVICE. I have a lot of Ryobi tools and like them but Ryobi does not have a good reputation when it comes to warranty and service. If you need a part where are you going to get it? I tried searching for availability for a deck motor and came up blank.
I spoke with Ryobi about this, and under the warranty, they will actually send someone to your house and fix it there for you.
Try Sears Parts Direct, they did have Ryobi Zero turn parts early last summer.
replace belts ? and blades ?
The battery mowers do not use belts
I WOULD NEVER BUY THIS MOWER, YET I OWN MANY RYOBI PRODUCTS !
Anyone paying MSRP for these 80v mowers is a fool. Home Depot frequently includes them in the Daily Deal for 20-35% off
Look like great machines, but that price... can still buy a lot of gas, and Tylenol for the common gas powered headaches. Ryobi could probably sell a lot more if the price was comparable to a gasser, not twice the cost.
Tell me your secret to getting free electricity to charge it, I have to pay for mine
I don't wanna be that guy but your thumbnail has a typo in it, didn't
I'm a fanboy, but I'm waiting to see what happens when something like a motor or whatever they call it breaks down and how hard it is to get repaired.
Ryobi lists service centers on their website.
@@dillonh321 I still look forward to hearing about someone's experience.
I have craftsman zeroturn I'm running it until it breaks these look nice but just cost to much i jave hadn mine over 5 yrs literally no issues but changing blades when needed people are too obsessed with technology and gadgets
Even with the seat all the way forward I still wouldn't be able to reach anything. I'm just to short.
Not sure how tall you are, but my son is 5'1" and cuts will it. 👊
My mower is coal powered
Are you kidding? $8,000.00 Mower, $ 2,000.00 Ecoflow, $2,000.00 Bluetti, and battery replacements of another $10,000 in a year or so!!!! I bought a John Deere riding mower in 2011 and paid $2,200 out the door. Filters and oil every 2 seasons plus gasoline , and I am still way under $3,000. Just not worth it my friend, and I really wanted to buy one of the Ego brand zero turns but I just don't see it. Small battery operated lawn care tools are great, but those mower prices are ridiculous.
Many variables: "are you smoking the grass"
Does it have beer holders? OOPS. Sorry!!bottle water holders?
Hehe, yes...two of them brother
LOL i remember ... sort of... in the loooong distant past... cutting grass.. can you imagine anything more wasteful?... well gotta go, got yard work to do... hah no i dont.. SFMF
We pay $0,08/kWh here in Quebec so it's not even worth it to have solar panels. That mower would cost nothing to use
6k for the 42in and 5k for the 30in. Way too expensive. The new Ego Tractor is $3,999 and Greenworks has a new 60v 30inch Zturn coming out for $3999 as well and a regular 30in 60v tractor for $3500. Ryobi best price check or we’ll see another fire sale on these like they did with the RM480 when Home Depot sold them for $500.
I have a gf that works at TTI. That’s the parent company. These mowers are NOT selling, production has stopped, they are having to take days off. Soon there will most likely be a huge layoff.
Does this come equipped with a feminine napkin dispenser for the individuals that purchase these? I do not know a single man that would buy one
I just got one brand new for 900, and I am in the 20th special forces group.
I’m not sure how more manly I could be. I don’t think my stingray corvette will mind this quiet and electric mower sitting next to it in my 3 stall garage.
Unfortunately, my Ryobi has been a pile of shit. It's only one year old and just had its 2nd motor controller explode with three-inch flames shooting out of it. At over 300.00 bucks a pop, I'd be better off with a gas mower, which I will return to after selling this pile of junk. After looking online, I see that it's a common issue that Ryobi has with these mowers, but don't worry; they always have over 300 of them in stock, but it will take a month to have them shipped to you. I really wanted to like the Ryobi, but it's dead to me now. The new controllers are identical, so the issue isn't even fixed. However, it does work really nice, like when it's not on fire. 🤣
I have a solution to the small compartment leave your phone in the house.
Then how would I respond to your comment 🤔 🤷
" I wish it was just like an inch bigger" says Mrs. Clint. 😂
Story of my life Bruce 😪
That's alot of battery's to repalce and they aren't CHEAP
You don’t think charging 80 volt batteries costs anything?
You didn't watch the video did ya?????
Not 1 Cent Spent ?......................... You Did Have To Replace That Bolt !!!
Nope, already had an extra one that fit perfectly
@@ToolReviewZone 😎👍🇺🇲
6.8 or 0.68 acres?
I think I said .68 acres in the video. I wish I had 6.8 acres though 😕
Does the deck remove easily like the tractor verision?@@ToolReviewZone
@@YoungMoonShepherd very easy removal
I don’t trust any battery powered equipment bigger than a drill. Not really into having my garage burn down due to incompetence within the education/engineering field these days. The older the tools the better in my opinion.
😂
Because gasoline in contact with a hot mower isn't flammable????? Walk behind battery mowers use batteries the same size as in a drill. Plus...only an fool leaves the batteries in the mower when not in use.
@krazmokramer some of the bigger battery mowers such as the Dewalt one that burnt up at a equipment expo have built in batteries.
@@stevendavis2244 Did not know that. I stand corrected. Thank you.
That mower shouldn't have been shown there. It was a demo unit only and wasn't ready for prime time
Moisttttt
So your electricity just falls from the sky?
just too expensive for a 54 inch...........i bought a 54 Husqvarna for 3,500 !
It is to expensive not to many people can afford it. It’s nice until you hit a rock and bust the deck and the blades
Um, if you hit a rock with any mower you need to worry about the deck and blades 🤣
if they ever get past the high cost and greed for common sense, then electric can flourish !
Did not spend ONE PENNY mowing this year? Really?? Did you get the power to charge the battery from the neighbor using an extension cord? If you charged the batteries, you did spend more than a penny. LOL
Didn't watch the video did you??????
Not one cent except the 4 thousand dollars on the mower. Twice the cost of a gas model.
2,000 bucks is a lot of gas bruh. And that’s just for new stuff. The second hand market for these doesn’t exist.
The new 54" is only $4999, they dropped the price $3K.
@@micker9830 a 54” deer is 3700. A 54” craftsman is 3200.
So…. Do some math. How long does it take you to spend 1300 in gas on a mower?
There is no way it will ever make financial sense for the average person. Please take special note of the word “average”. There are certainly use cases where it can make financial sense.
Please also note I am not “knocking” electric mowers. Simply pulling on the “not one cent” metric that implies there is an average net cost savings. There isn’t. Generally.
@@Tinker3504 Its not just about gas. Its zero maintenance, no oil, air/fuel filters to clean or replace , gas to go buy, belts snapping off mid mow and having to wait several days for a new one, then have to put it on. No worrying about winterizing it. It's very quite and no exhaust smell or heat coming off it in the summer. That's worth extra to me. The 42" is the same price as the gas powered ones.
@@micker9830 right. You listed all the other things. Things that cost very little in both time and money.
So again, it doesn’t make financial sense, but I understand why someone would buy one. Especially if they can’t/don’t want to turn a wrench here and there. I was only addressing the “not costing a single cent” comment. Nothing more and nothing less.
It cost him at least 120,000 more single cents lol
This thing uses car batteries , takes hours to recharge , 5,000.00 , not buying that
Too expensive.
keep it, THERE IS NO CLIMATE CHANGE
Well now this is a interesting video and a very interesting machine. However, I definitely think I would pass. Anything that runs on batteries is prone to eventually fail. And like you say, those batteries are very pricey.
Anything that runs on gas will eventually fail. Everything fails. The batteries have a 5 yr warranty. In 5+yrs those batteries will be much cheaper. The big ones are only like $600 something each now.
I am "absolutely" positive that you DID pay to charge the batteries!!!!
Oh yeah, how is that?
Complete waste of money and all but useless on anything other than a perfect lawn. Just one of those 80v 10AH batteries is $900 and there are 3. Add in the 4 x 40v 12AH batteries and those are $359 each! I have gone through half a dozen of the 40v 3 and 4AH batteries for my Ryobi weed eater and have had major headaches with failed batteries and returns. You'd be 1000 times better off buying something like a Bad Boy gas mower!! Lithium ion batteries are not environmentally friendly and are far worse than just running a standard gasoline engine!! BTW.. None of those batteries (3 year limited warranty) are stocked at your local Home Depot and you're responsible for all shipping fees if there is no Ryobi service center close by. It's also only about $80 and an hour of time to do a tune up on a gas zero turn mower every other year or so. I'd love to be able to enjoy using one of these, but they're just nowhere near as cost effective as a good gas mower!