Destroying the "Flat Earth" With 1 Photo I Took From My iPhone - You Can Too
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2024
- In an informative and engaging episode of the Didache podcast, Justin Peters debunks the Flat Earth Theory using simple observations and scientific principles. He begins by addressing the surprisingly large following this theory has among Christians, expressing concern for the ridicule it brings upon Christianity and the misinterpretation of biblical texts.
Peters showcases photographs taken from his iPhone to provide an irrefutable argument against the Flat Earth Theory. He illustrates how the sun's rays illuminate the underside of clouds, an occurrence impossible in a flat earth model. He explains the scientific basis of light reflection and the shape of the Earth, encouraging listeners to rely on common sense, scientific evidence, and a correct interpretation of the Bible to recognize the Earth's roundness.
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Great work Justin.
If you think the earth is flat and you want to reach the lost, please keep the belief to yourself. The world thinks we’re nuts as it is without you confirming it to them 😊. Instead preach the gospel, as you’ve been told to.
Thank you so much, brother (Ray?). as to your comment - amen and amen!
🙌👍
And what other deceptions should we keep quiet about? Go ahead and measure all the distances and what not and find almost all of them have 666 in the calculations. That's just one.
@@user-hy2du8fg6l the book of Enoch is not scripture.
@@user-hy2du8fg6l the book of Enoch is not scripture.
Flat Earth Truth is an Awakening and I am thankful to be a part of it
Th flerf cult will never truly die.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper Helios Ball Licker will always be on his knees lickicking balls.
Only on the internet and in your basement. The intelligent and non gullible will carry on in the knowledge we live on a glorious rotating globe dancing around the sun.....
@@stanley626 Lord👹Helios👹Agrees
And how exactly will you benefit from this 'awakening'?
Genesis 1:6 “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”
The upper and lower waters are the sea and sky…. look at the Hebrews.. Mayim (waters) and ShaMayim (Upper Waters). Firmament means any Great Expanse.
@kelvyquayo really? So the air filled sky is now "upper waters" according to you?
This makes no sense, sorry.
Raqiya is a Hebrew word that has been translated as "firmament" (KJV, ASV), "expanse" (NIV, ESV, NASB), "dome" (NRSV), and "vault" (TNIV, NJB).
There's actually water above the dome or firmament.. there's no such thing as outer space
@@curtissleypen9395 No it makes perfect sense. Ever wonder why the sky is blue, in day light. That`s because there is water above the firmament. The Bible says it clearly. L.MichelleMcElroy, quoted the Bible. Do you believe the Bible or not.
I tried to get a Job at NASA.
They didn't have any space for me
😢
You should Apollo-gize for that joke.
probably have no time for you either. space time 😄
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Jesus has a space for you! He is going to make a new solar system and I believe we all will be able to be astronaunts if we go to heaven! We will get to explore it with Jesus! Can you even begin to imagine how exciting and wonderful that will be! I too was SO interested in all that when I was in elementary school! It was when Ronald Reagan was president and I watched as the space shuttle blew up in the sky after taking off!
@angelawindom4711 -
1 Corinthians 15:1-5
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
That's the Gospel right there!
Praise Jesus!
Praise the Father!
Praise the Holy Spirit
Earth is not a flying spining tilting orbiting water ball in vacuum...
No one says it is.
Because gas is easily contained without a container adjacent to an endless vacuum…oh wait…cuz gravity.
@@TheRealRenn Yup. It's like gravity acts as the container. Weird that.
@@TheRealRenn ....it stares them in the face but they will never get it....sadly. Just like that Tesla in "space".....they think they have the "science" when the easiest scientific PROVEN science is not even understood. Like a vacuum and what it actually is and how things behave in it
@@GuardianSoulkeeperyour kidding right? Cuz the religion of science opposes your response
Water is flat
No three words have ever been truer!!!
Even "Living Waters", right Ray Discomfort?
@@firmamental4900 uh?
@@user-kn2do4wq7b Ray Comfort runs Living Water Ministries and has his comment pinned at the top.
Ray's works salvation "gospel" is flat out wrong.@@firmamental4900
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “…who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast…”
Some verses you mentioned have portions of their text missing.
Psalm 93 (LSB) Promptly begins with: Yahweh Reigns, He is clothed with majesty; Yahweh has clothed and girded Himself with strength; Indeed the *world* is established, it will not be shaken.
Notice what it starts with. Half of the verses you mentioned refer to God's Sovereignty and how the World is FIXED to His Sovereignty and His rule. True Believers acknowledge this that the primary thing the World (Earth) is bound to is His Sovereignty, it is repeated in Psalm 96 and again in 1st Chronicles 16, LSB for Isaiah 45 mentions how God has *Formed* and *Made* the Earth.
None of these verses is talking about the "Earth" (our entire world by name). They're instead talking about the "earth" (land, country/territory/region or its people, ground, or soil).
@@ChipsAplentyBandwhat about Joshua’s long day then?? It clearly says the sun stopped and the moon. In no way did the earth stop rotating!
@@blueskyfanclub 1. Holding the universe in place is no big deal to God. 2. Inspiringphilosophy has a good video on this. Likely this is another case of modern English Christians applying our meanings to Hebrew literature. Context is key. Not just what is in the Scripture and surrounding passages/cross references, but also historical and cultural context.
@@TommyNitro of course God can do anything…He spoke everything into existence, but also He is not illogical. Hanging off a spinning ball is illogical. Man has convinced you it is logical.
Joshua’s long day is exactly what it says. The sun and moon stopped…if the earth stopped, God would’ve said that.
Satan has twisted and indoctrinated the minds of men to believe science fiction is true. There is a firmament, hard as molten looking glass. Why would He say it if it wasn’t true? God does not lie.
We know the world hate the truth and love lies....The world will reject Jesus and love the devil.
yet the earth is still easily verifiably a sphere.
How do you get water to stick to a ball
You dont. The 100% false manmade idea of the earth being a spinning ball is absolute unbiblical nonsense. It is the belief of the spiritually dead and blind, of the accursed of God.
Have a really really big ball that generates a large gravitational force.
@@MrEjwheeler And the centrifugal force?
Maybe God used some glue? 😂
@@adriel6421 ... is just 0.3% of the gravity.
Psalms 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth and proclaims his handy work.
Preach that
Wernher von Braun's epitaph.
the skies
הָרָקִֽיעַ׃ (hā·rā·qî·a‘)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 7549: An expanse, the firmament, visible arch of the sky
The first word is probably the one that is more commonly used to translate the word. So it's the expanse, or the stretch of the heavens. In other words, you are using a translation which has the word suited for your argument and you disregard the word in the original language. All so you could hold on to the hope of a flat earth. If only you would use Bible verses to hold on more to Christ than to flat earth. Oh well...
And where exactly does it say "flat" Earth?
@@cirjaonisim1113 wrong again it’s called raqiya and it’s like molten glass and spread out like tent. Man another ignorant fool trying to prove the earth is round and calling YHWH a liar . STOP
Psalm 104:5 He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.
And what "foundations" would that be, hmm? Because the "foundations" could be something that didn't move UNTIL after the flood. Considering that the Psalmist is talking about creation, then we know that isn't what "flat earth" is. And what is a circle in 3 dimensions? A sphere.
@@russwaddel08 tremendous.
The question is what are these foundations the Bible is talking about; believe me God is not building LEGOS; as a suggestion please read and study about the fine tuning of the universe (mathematical constants easily proven) which show nothing else than these foundations in which all natural world stands
@@nicons6713
Sounds like you rely upon your own understanding more thsn God's written instructions. We all have been conditoned to believe scientism and esteem the wisdom of men. ...What does God say?
@@russwaddel08 How can the earth be immovable until AFTER a cataclysmic event? Either it moves, or it doesn't. Also, there are many Bible verses indirectly revealing the concept of a flat earth after the Book of Genesis, of which many are in the Book of Psalms. You need to read your Bible if you have one and do some research in the Old and New Testament.
"Trust in the Lord, and do not lean on your own understanding". Proverbs 3:5.
Christians who refuse to understand biblical cosmology is weird to me
They either suffer from cognitive dissonance or are just plain cowards. I came from being a hard-core atheist or an agent of the devil to my creator and I can not understand, well I do really, why you get anti FEers that call themselves Christians. You would think they would welcome knowing for a fact they have a creator and Satan and his minions to fight against.
Because, in the grand scheme of things, cosmology is irrelevant.
Also, the way you said it makes it sound like believing in flat earth is a requirement.
See? This is why people look at Christians like they’re crazy. Because of people like you.
Yes, Justin and Ray Comfort, Ken Ham, and Kent Hovind are just a few of those Christians who deny God's word. I hope you're not one of them. There is nothing biblical about heliocentrism. God bless.
Very cringe. They are so smug about young earth at the same time.
This is why people look at Christians like they’re a bunch of weirdos.
Because of people like you.
The Bible is very clear that we are on a flat and immovable earth with a firmament above us. I will not deny what the Lord our God teaches us.
What men tell you. Do your own research
@@GuardianSoulkeeper I have done my own research and there really is a firmament up there, this is why they can’t shot a rocket straight up but instead as a bow. I think the name NASA given to it is “Van Allen Radiation Belt” and our Heavenly Father spent the second day on this, grandiose to put a human name on it.
What men say is the heliocentric model. Named after the sun god Helios. The whole solar system is is full of pagan gods. Saturn, Mars, Venus etc etc….these are named by men, not God. 🫵are the one believing what men say…God says nothing about space. Space is science fiction.
make everyman a liar @@GuardianSoulkeeper
Jonna, no, the Bible never says we are on a flat earth.
Please ask the Holy Spirit to guide you before opening your Holy Bible again.
Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
A circle is a 2 dimensional object where all points are equidistant from a single point IN A PLANE. A plane is a 2 dimensional object with ZERO thickness. SO, if we are going to take your absolutely asinine idea that the Bible is ALWAYS Literal, then we have to conclude the earth doesn't exist in our three-dimensional reality, because he said it's a circle. A circle has no thickness so therefore, NOTHING could inhabit it.
God is God so CERTAINLY He knows the difference between a circle and a disc, so why didn't He say disc? Is He a LIAR, is the BIBLE full of lies?
Now if you suddenly want to abandon your hyper-literalist view of the Bible, and say God MEANT a 3 D circle, well, THEN you have a sphere, NOT a Disc. A sphere is an object with all points equidistant from a singular point. Note the "within a plane" restriction is removed making it a 3d sphere instead of a 2d circle.
The Bible is FULL of figurative and picturesque words and phrases, because God isn't some boring, awkward, autistic AI robot that ONLY speaks literally. God uses absolutely EVERY figurative form of speech in human language in the bible and anyone with a room temperature IQ can figure it out. HINT, when it's books like Revelation, Psalms, Job and the prophetic ones, all symbolic and poetic books, you will see A LOT of figurative speech.
Jesus used PARABLES! Do you know what a PARABLE is? Hint, It's NOT a literal story. Also, Jesus said if you don't eat his flesh and drink His blood, you have no life in you. So, are YOU going to go to hell? Or did you actually eat His flesh and drink His blood?
Like a snow globe.
@@frankwalls9603
NO.
In the great tribulation the sky will be rolled up like a scroll.
@@frankwalls9603
yes it would have to be o I don't know a firmament of some kind
Now where would we find that word? FIRMAMENT
Joshua 10:12 At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel and he said in the sight of Israel "Sun" stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the valley of Aisalon. I wonder why God never told the earth to stand still.
Josh. 10:12 (KJV) is truth.
We are (OBVIOUSLY) NOT on a spinning ball/globe.
Water does NOT bend/curve.
We are IN a firmament. Gen. 1 (KJV)
Yes, the world is round. But we are NOT on a 'ball/globe'.
Simple logic prevails.
The spinning ball theory is about 400 years old I believe. - It is a new theory.
Mk.4:9 (KJV)
@tpv59 Isaiah 40:22 NIV
[22] He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
The word circle is round like a compass. A circle is 2 dimensional and a sphere is 3 dimensional. So they are wrong. We go by the Bible and they go by man.
@@MyHome7_CarlaThey go by SATAN'S lie.
@@subvertedworldyes you are right Satan being nasa
How foolish you guys are. What has Satan to gain from lying the earth is not flat when it is actually flat?
Flat earth Dave made a video to correct your thinking. You should go watch it and keep an open mind.
Just watched that. Excellent response.
eric dubay is the best for the flat earth
@@daviddegrote-ms8td Eric was one of the champs, watched a lot of his FE vids.
@@usd25674 DAVID WEISS / FLAT EARTH PODCAST ; you know him
The bottomless pit can only exist on a flat earth model.
But please address Justin's argument. Underlit clouds. How?
Check out Pastor Dean Odle and what he has to say about FE. And his debate with Pastor Greg Locke. Eye opening stuff.
Even if I had been a glove earther before that debate, Greg lockes approach would have completely turned me off from the idea. I don't wanna believe anything that man stands for
I am no Flat earther, however If I were to be perfectly honest here as someone who has studied scripture all my life up to this point, I'd have to say that I do not get a spherical globe spinning around in an endless void of space. The Bible seems to be telling us, in no uncertain terms, that we live on a still (as in stationary), plain, enclosed system. Not sure where to put this realization.
Agreed. Why would God's creation be 99.9999999% empty vacuum, freezing cold - a void of nothingness.
God made earth and everything else to serve it.
Correct. Everything the Round Earth Theory leads away from belief in biblical teachings. They try to make us all atheists, but, Jesus is still King, regardless.
A "round earth" certainly does devalue the importance of the earth being God's focal point in scripture. Jesus didn't go to any other "planet", and if He did, then scripture is a lie. I would say that Satan has certainly misused science to distract from just how important this place to God. I mean, His entire story takes place here! For our attention to be on these "vast galaxies" certainly does diminish our attention to Him, in my opinion.
Right, you cannot maintain any notion of the Earth moving, spinning, orbiting, etc, as no biblical text supports the idea.
Rather, I find numerous examples describing the sun on a "circuit" and the moon and stars likewise in motion. The more I read the bible for myself the more it exposes my perceived beliefs I was given at a young age.
Either you believe the Bible or you don't. Genesis 1:6 King James Bible
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
God is STILL illuminating the Firmament for Job 37.18 and 38ff, for David Ps. 19 and 150,
and for Ezekiel 1, dont'cha know! He shouldn't be "deceiving his prophets."
Why would you believe the bible?
It is a work historical fiction and nothing more
satan...t minus, nasa, has deceived the whole world just as it is written in Revelation.
Breaking the second Commandment of creating a ((graven)) image, getting everyone to worship it, while simultaneously calling the magical force that holds it all together ((gravity.)) "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
(Exodus 20:4-6)@@saludanite
Amen, it is as simple as that. Very disturbing to see learned men in Christ so deceived on a very simple literal description of God's beautiful creation.
@@davidjohnson1463 so you don’t believe NASA what about the 1000s of other companies and organisations all over our globe that confirm that concern we live on a rotating globe shaped planet.
Simple observation? When get up in the morning do you conceive your senses as being on a humongous-sized tennis ball that is spinning in a vacuum out of velocity that your mind can't even comprehend?
People who believe the earth is round also believe we went to the moon and can possibly step foot on mars.
I don’t believe we went to the moon but I do believe the earth is round.
Yes. And exactly why is that a problem. We can prove to this say that man was on the on the moon. And in a few short years (2026?) man will be on the moon again - that will be a bad time for flat earthers - real time, continuous video of the earth receding from view, and switch to the approaching moon. Manned test run, without landing,, is currently scheduled for October 2025. Good luck.
@@JohnSmith-ux3ttnever ever ever ever ever going to happen
How’d they get past the van allen radiation? And how did their aluminum foil craft withstand the atmosphere? Lol!
If we go to the moon for real, it will be because it’s inside it the firmament.
@@JohnSmith-ux3ttno…it will be a great time for flat earthers when, as you say we “return” to the moon because hopefully this time they will take an actual, real picture of Earth.😂😂
Biblical cosmology is Geocentric. The globe is HELIOcentric!! The globe model is sun worship.
Baloney. The Bible is silent about Earth's shape and about celestial mechanics because the name of our world-"Earth"-never appears in the Bible. Only the word "earth" (not capitalized) appears in the Bible and it refers instead to the land, to a country/territory/region or its peopld, to the ground, or to the soil. People, including your fellow Bible-believers like me who think flat Earth is a gross misinterpretation of scripture, are worshippers of the God of the Bible, not of the Sun. Heliocentrism as a scientific view is a celestial mechanics/physics model, not a religious belief system. Get a grip, please.
@@ChipsAplentyBand Heliocentric model is science fiction for the itching ears who believe whatever they want from the information that’s passed down to them. In Job 38:4-5 God mentions measuring the earth with a straight line. That doesn’t work on a globe model. Please let go of the ‘grip’ and try understanding things you can test and observe rather than accepting and regurgitating information passed down to you.
@@ChipsAplentyBand Just thoughts: according to the bible 'day' / 'night' happened before the 'sun' and 'moon' happened. see 'Genesis'.
This actually makes sense. The sky is actual quite bright and also quite dark. We have been told that the sun causes the sky to light up. Makes sense.
If this place is 'electric' then the sky may naturally have a fundamental 'half lit ' / half dark' cycle as it traverses over the earth.
If this place is 'electric' then the 'sun' can be considered positive and 'switches on the sky'. The 'moon' can be considered negative and will 'switch off' the sky.
As they travel around this place... The interaction between them and the 'sky' may actually be responsible for the changing length of days. see Seasons and Length of Day / Night. Clue: The Sun is the 'Greater Light to rule the day'. The Moon is the 'Lessor Light to rule the night'.
Therefore what the sun and moon actually do is 'modify' the 'standard' Day / Night cycle?
There are clues: The sun and moon can both be in the sky together. As long as they are not to close to each other, it can be seen that the moon switches off the sky! i.e. It is night where the moon is. ;-/
@@ChipsAplentyBand the Bible is the Living Truth! And you believe men who are liars instead of the Truth!
@@greggblakesley4506
This is based in physics, which was largely invented by Isaac Newton.
Science was invented by Christians.
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of kings to find it out.
I almost feel bad for him watching this he made a video against the Bible and thousands of very simple test you can do to show the Earth is flat, easiest, no curvature over 30, 40 etc miles span. The fact that airplanes would fly right off the side of a ball. If they didn’t adjust for curvature, and every pilot will tell you they do not adjust for curvature, and so so so many other things this is what he has for proof. 😅
No where in Scripture is earth called a planet. That’s what science says. Common sense shows that all water is level and takes the shape of its container, and that people are not antipodal to one another. Furthermore, when the Bible says look up, to whom is it referring? I thought the Bible was true for all people in all places.
What follows the shape of the earth. A globe.
Level does not mean flat.
The bible is historical fiction made by man
You obviously have never been to the southern hemisphere.
It’s called scale. If earth were a basketball you would be the size of bacteria on its surface. The basketball would appear flat.
The bible is only true for those who believe it.
The rest of us see it as man made nonsense, a work of fiction full of nonsense and inaccuracy.
The earth is a rotating globe, there are thousands upon thousands of things that make this so. It is not a debate or even a question. The earth is a rotating globe.
Dang, I recommend your videos to my flat earth friend yesterday and today you’re claiming the Bible doesn’t say things that it clearly does. I don’t claim to have the answers to this, but there is plenty of references in the Bible backing up this claim from an unmoving earth with the sun and moon revolving around it and the earth being called a circle by Isaiah… to claim this isn’t in the Bible is just false.
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and I thought flat earth was on fire in 2016 - lol I'm amazed at how many people already know this and by how fast it's growing. 2 Thes 2 strong delusion" = spinning ball earth
@@zach3136
Mark 10:6 KJV
[6] But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
@@telefellavision annnnnd?
@@zach3136 I do believe Jesus Christ pretty much says it plainly that man and woman was created at the beginning of creation. Not some big bang and then we showed up from a pile of goo in the monkeys and then man which is what the globe is promoting. So essentially by believing in the globe you're saying that Jesus Christ doesn't know what he's talking about because he doesn't understand our science that isn't even science
Isaiah 40:22
[22]It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
Respectfully, a circle is not the same as a sphere.
@@juliesutton7125 It still has a round type of form.
A circle is round. The earth is round. But it is not a ball. Nowhere in the Bible does it speak of the earth as a ball or spinning and orbiting. It does however speak about the dome above the face of the waters and He hovered over the face of the earth. It does talk about the earth being still. Many scriptures speak of the flat earth.
Circle, not sphere.
@@johndeere2038r Nope. The biblical Hebrew word 'chuwg' means NEITHER 'disk' nor 'sphere.' It means 'circle' or 'compass' or 'circuit'-i.e., a round/looping path or perimeter of some kind. Isaiah 40:22 is not talking about the shape of our world/planet anyway. The word he uses ('eretz,' rendered in the English Old Testament as "earth"-not capitalized) refers to the land, a country/territory/region or its people, the ground, or the soil. Modern readers of the Bible in an English version easily confuse "earth" with the capitalized name of our world/planet, "Earth." But the world/planet name "Earth" NEVER APPEARS in our English Bible versions. Some Bible readers, unaware of or sloppy about the earth/Earth distinction in English, see "earth" in the Bible but think "Earth" instead. They INSERT "Earth" into their understanding of the text when they confuse "earth" with "Earth." A reasonable suggestion I've seen made by a Bible scholar for what Isaiah is talking about when he uses the phraseology 'the circle of the land' in this verse is the 360 degree circular sweep of horizon which always surrounds/encompasses us wherever we live or travel. That horizon is a round looping path/perimeter and it entirely fits with the local context as well.
I am a Christian and the Earth is indeed stationary and flat. IT is all throughout the Bible.
Over 200 verses.
@@lifeontheroad_probably not a good christian
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@@lifeontheroad_ There are bible verses that allude to the flat shape, but not over 200. That was a bogus list created by a new believer with a poor understanding of the scriptures, I checked them and most are not related to the shape of the Earth.
@@mynamemylastname7179
And good Christians should believe the sky is a vacuum full of little green men in spaceships
@@dazstudio68 nah that is for ret@rded christians good christians believe fluffy😇angels with wings flying around in the sky.
The scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports and confirms a Geocentric Model of the Earth, exactly what the LORD describes in detail in His Supernaturally Inspired Authoritative Word, not a Heliocentric Model that was fabricated throughout time by people attempting to discredit the TRUTH of God's Word...Why any so-called Bible believer would even question this is beyond me...???...
confirms a heliocentric* model of the Earth.
FTFY
You are correct. What all the fake christians that listen to this ungodly man fail to understand is, his religion is the Godless worlds religion of scientism. This man is not, and has never been a Christian.
Please provide one scientific proof of the globe👍
@@robertbrewster6890 A local horiozn
@@GuardianSoulkeeper you do realize that heliocentric model is named after the pagan god, Helios, right? And the whole solar system is full of pagan names like Saturn, Mars, Jupiter etc etc…that does not come from God. Space is science fiction. Made up just like the Big Bang
Sometimes we can see the sun in the clouds.
And sometimes we can see the sun with clouds behind the sun and in front of the sun.
Sometimes the clouds are so thin that they disappear from the sun, others are thick enough to cover the sun.
So?
@Zodiac4711 you misunderstood or your pride is in the way.
@@Zodiac4711satan...t minus, nasa, has deceived the whole world just as it is written in Revelation.
Breaking the second Commandment of creating a ((graven)) image, getting everyone to worship it, while simultaneously calling the magical force that holds it all together ((gravity.)) "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
(Exodus 20:4-6)
I have never seen the clouds behind the sun. Have you?
But please interact with his argument! Underlit clouds. How can this be?
Joshua commanded the sun to stop to continue the battle, he didn't comand the earth to stop rotating, The word planet is no where to be found in the original Hebrew scriptures, no matter how high you go the earth horizon will alwas at eye level because there is no curve. And there is much much more, search for yourself the evidence is extremely overwhelming, the bible talks about the circuit the sun and the moon travels ,also the dome or firmament but that is anouther topic for discussion.
Indeed the word planet is nowhere to be found. It's from ancient Greek "planeta" for "wanderer" meaning wandering star. Because those particular stars we now call "planets", happen to wander around the ecliptic instead of staying fixed like the other stars and constellations.
I'm agreeing with you. There is no evidence whatsoever for "planets" except false information from known liars.
Those wandering stars just so happen to look very different than all the other stars. If you’ve not seen Jupiter and Saturn through a telescope yet, ask to borrow a friend’s telescope. I wanted to cry the first time I saw Saturn with its ring 🪐
@@FlyTour69 All stars are angelic and the energy it gives our souls which will last for eternity. The earth is a motionless topographical plane with no measurable curvature that can be found and with a firmament that prevent any humans from getting out of this realm. The Sun light gives off a positive energy and controls the day and the moon light gives off negative energy and controls the night, both influence the ocean salt water which creates a electrical current causing tides twice a day and the land mass being neutral and acting as a giant battery. If you didn't know wandering stars were name after Greek Gods and none of them are terra firma and if you look through a telescope you will not see what you have been shown by NASA because they are liars . What you see from all stars are some form of energetic light each one is different and everything created by God is a electrical and not burning gaseous hydrogen with helium told to you by man.
Sorry Justin, after my own personal research I concluded the earth is flat. This does not make you a false teacher because you believe it’s a sphere. I have followed you for years and will continue to do so! Your one of the good ones and pray you keep strong
Yep - it's flat. I believed the "globe/planet" nonsense for 5 decades before I decided to test it - it failed in every area but the most important area was CURVATURE - the official CLAIM is that the radius of earth is 3959 miles - that is a very specific claim ---so when we attempt to measure for curvature which is commensurate with the the radius claim; it fails so massively that It's almost unbelievable that the world has gone this long without figuring it out - but with the indoctrination we were gaslighted with, most people just assume it's true (Appeal to Authority logical fallacy) - and therefore never test it.
So if you haven't tested for the claimed curvature which should be commensurate and consistent with the radius claim, then all you have is a religion - GO TEST FOR CURVATURE and then come back and show us your test and results so that we can go out and verify (they can't and won't do this but I still have to say it so that the impossible challenge is put out there - they never have nor will they ever be able to - because the earth is measured to NOT have any curvature.)
It's sad to see people calling themselves Christian while being so disingenuous and intellectually corrupt.
one more thing - WOW! 1,200 thumbs down on this video - hmmmm - gotta love it. and yes - they HIDE the thumbsdown now for this very reason but if you use a browser with an extension made for ute oob to show the thumbsdown then you can see it too...
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😆 🤣 😂 go debate a well researched flat earther they would tear you apart
Flat earthers couldn't tear out of a wet paper bag. Calm down.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper Justin Peters doesn't know the heliocentric spinning globe model but wants to rip apart the topographical level plane earth, because we are not living on a disk speeding through outer space at ridiculous speeds that is what is on the government control damage websites and there are many sites misleading people to believe the flat earth is psyop but opposite is actually true.
This just proves that More Information doesn’t equal More Truth.
Just shows that having lots of information doesn't mean globet_rds can cope with real life.
Br. Justin. please explain the firmament in relation to your "round earth" theory.
thank you
Firmament simply means sky.
@@AdrianP225Really... what bible translation do you use.
@@AdrianP225 Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. (8) And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. . . (16) And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. (17) And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, . . AV1611
If you believe those verses, you believe God set the sun, moon, and stars IN the firmament. You believe there are waters ABOVE the firmament (Gen 7:11 ¶ . . . the windows of heaven were opened. (12) And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.). With water above the firmament, you also must believe the firmament CANNOT be the sky or expanse of outer space.
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The Hebrew mean is a hard structure. The Bible refers to the firmament as a crystal like structure.
@@p-brane8358 I study many translations but in Hebrew it means sky / heavens.
Pastors who think they know everything and are smarter and wiser than God who breathed the Scriptures really annoy me.
Guys like JP and all his pastor buddies are only pastors to goats. They are not pastors of sheep.
You are incorrect. Justin Peters loves the Lord and preaches Christ from the hillside. Brother Peters has not yet awakened to this truth and remember believing in a flat earth is not a prerequisite to be saved. Brother Peters is a fallen being as we are. Be very careful how you speak of a brother of Christ. We are commanded to examine not to tear down a true brother.
@@ellachristina7730 Are you saying that he fits my general description?
Be not many teachers for they will be put under stricter judgment. James 3:1
If you are going to get on a channel like this and influence tens of thousands of people you better be right. Instead of humbly saying that he needs to do more research or have someone who teaches BC on his channel to have a respectable discussion he chose to be a gatekeeper for the other side. He needs to be respectfully rebuked as a brother.
The Gospel of the Kingdom is predicated on the Scriptures being trustworthy in all areas. Jesus rebuked Peter to his face and declared that he was speaking as Satan when he spoke the wisdom of man versus the eternal word of God.
Exactly ... and with the dismissive arrogance they carry theirself.. yet when they talk, they show just how much they don't know.
To keep it simple, everything God created AFTER day 2, was created UNDER the firmament lol only the stars are not under the firmament, but IN the firmament...
Their heliocentric model that they were taught and the creation that God explained to us is two completely different models. And one is true and the other is a lie. And we all can be sure that the story God told is the true model, which includes the firmament with water above it... not "space" lol no such thing.
Where did the water go, Justin... did that water just suddenly disappear...
Why is the sky blue, Justin... is it really due to some imaginary mirror particle..
Or is it because water is still above the firmament.
Let's talk about it, Justin.
Exactly ... and with the dismissive arrogance they carry theirself.. yet when they talk, they show just how much they don't know.
To keep it simple, everything God created AFTER day 2, was created UNDER the firmament lol only the stars are not under the firmament, but IN the firmament...
Their heliocentric model that they were taught and the creation that God explained to us is two completely different models. And one is true and the other is a lie. And we all can be sure that the story God told is the true model, which includes the firmament with water above it... not "space" lol no such thing.
Where did the water go, Justin... did that water just suddenly disappear...
Why is the sky blue, Justin... is it really due to some imaginary mirror particle..
Or is it because water is still above the firmament.
Let's talk about it, Justin.
♠️ NOT A HILL I WANT TO DIE ON, BUT YOU JUST DIED ON A HILL.
The documentary "Heliosorcery" is worth watching in my opinion.
Amen! It so ironically sad that Justin and some others in the comments think they are appealing to a higher and more logical source of reason and knowledge in "science" when it was the church itself that was most responsible for pushing heliocentrism (but literally heliosorcery) because of the threat of the printing press making scripture accessible to "commoners". Their exclusive control over belief in and access to God was being threatened, so sowing doubt about God's word was a very effective antidote. They worship Copernicus while unaware of the role he willingly played in the charade.
I'll find that.
The best!!
Links maybe?
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From Romans 3:4 Let God be true and every man a liar: Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, Until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. / No it was not too hard for God to have rather said "let the earth stop rotating. God's people were not bereft of God's Cosmology at the time of Joshua. /
Psalm 19:4-7 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, 5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. 6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. 7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
This is patently untrue. In a plane you will see that shadow is stretching out horizontally away from and below you. Also, the apparent light source drops down due to perspective. It is literally just like looking down a street with 20ft tall streetlights and they look like they are dropping down the further away they are. If you placed a 5 foot tall trash can halfway down the street it would block the light from the streetlights further away even though they are 15 feet taller than the trash can. Show some integrity and take this down and/or correct it.
The mountain's shadow is immaterial. The point is that the sun is lighting the underside of the clouds. Perspective can't cause a flat earth sun that should be physically above the clouds to light up the underside of them. Try it using your example. Hold a dinner plate horizontally in front of you and see if you can get a distant street light to shine on the bottom of it. You can't because even though you can manipulate your pov to make the street light visually appear to be behind or even below the plate, it's still physically above it.
This is cemented even further by images you can find on the inernet of clouds casting shadows on higher clouds above them, which is also only possible with the light source being physically below them.
Austin, you have the best FE arguments around, no question. I'm a fan of both you and Justin, but you will not get him on your level. It just won't happen. Knowledge gap is too big, and he could not give an answer to you. Any luck reaching out to Jason Lisle. He is one of a few people I think capable of digging into your better arguments and giving them a run for their money. If you haven't, try and reach out to him. Also, I know you have heard it all before, but I wanted to recommend "the forgotten trinity" to you. Even if you disagree, at least you will be disagreeing with what I consider to be one of the strongest biblical arguments for the doctrine of the trinity.
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If the op really is that skillful I very much look forward to seeing them post a response in this thread rectifying the contradiction I pointed out.
@@magnuswarsinski Yeah. I'm not FE, but Austin (WitsitGetsit) is for sure making the strongest arguments for FE. No idea if he can answer your point, but he has points that I have no answer for. Not saying there are not ways to debunk him....but haven't seen anyone do it yet. That's why I mentioned Jason Lisle. He is a Christian, and honest man, a dr. in astrophysics, and a young earth creationist. He is capable of answering....but may not even know Austin exists. Here's hoping they interact.
I provided the flat earth answer to this but its no longer here - gotta ask what dont they want you to see
People are coming to christ because of biblical cosmology.
And praise God for it!
The kingdom of heaven isn’t about what shape the earth is or how big and far away the stars are. When Jesus comes back this topic will be irrelevant and we’ll all spend an eternity worshipping Him and fellowshipping we each other, not arguing debates on the internet.
Coming to God because of a lie? This is sad.
@@MCToon God is not a liar. Satan is the god of this world. Satan is a murdering liar. Gods word tells us the earth is fixed, immovable, with a firmament above us. I believe Gods word over satanic nasa.
@@MCToon martin luther rose up against the roman catholic church, and capernicus.
Jesus said he would lead us to all truth. Be open to truth.
“There is talk of a new astrologer who wants to prove that the earth moves and goes around instead of the sky, the sun, the moon, just as if somebody were moving in a carriage or ship might hold that he was sitting still and at rest while the earth and the trees walked and moved. But that is how things are nowadays: when a man wishes to be clever he must needs invent something special, and the way he does it must needs be the best! The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth.” - Martin Luther
So Calvin next! Phenomenal!
Here's a quote from Calvin:
The Christian is not to compromise so as to obscure the distinction between good and evil, and is to avoid the errors of] those dreamers who have a spirit of bitterness and contradiction, who reprove everything and prevent the order of nature. We will see some who are so deranged, not only in religion but who in all things reveal their monstrous nature that they will say that the sun does not move, and that it is the earth which shifts and turns. When we see such minds we must indeed confess that the devil possess them, and that God sets them before us as mirrors, in order to keep us in his fear. So it is with all who argue out of pure malice, and who happily make a show of their imprudence. When they are told: “That is hot,” they will reply: “No, it is plainly cold.” When they are shown an object that is black, they will say that it is white, or vice versa. Just like the man who said that snow is black; for although it is perceived and known by all to be white, yet he clearly wished to contradict the fact. And so it is that they are madmen who would try to change the natural order, and even to dazzle eyes and benumb their senses.
@@flores5480 🔥 I wonder at what point they will realize this is the original understanding which has now been muddied with lies. Thank you!
Wow where did you find that?
@@vernonweaver8208 I'm not really sure, I found it on a page with quotes from Christian theologians down through the ages concerning our geocentric state, a while back. I save quotes like these for for reference when I encounter nay sayers. I'm sure a search would yield a good bounty.
We don’t care to be ridiculed or mocked as long as we ARE sharing Biblical truth !!!!!!
Mocked you shall be because there is no such thing as a biblical truth.
It’s a work of fiction for the weak of thought and the gullible.
If you're telling people that the Earth is flat, then you are not.
Biblical truth is not flat earth.
The earth is a sphere.
@@vkaygee and how do you know less someone told you. Ha
Your phone has AI for space shots that you need to investigate. The Psalms tells us the sun goes in a circuit but the earth is on foundations. Hold water on a tennis ball and spin it. Does the water stay? These are the EASY questions
No these are stupid questions.......
There are thousands of photos taken from space and of space before CGI was even a thing.
The bible is a book of fiction full of falsehoods and inaccuracies. So hardly worth quoting from.
A tennis ball is tiny compared to the earth. For a start when you say spin for that tennis ball to rotate the same speed as the sun you would need to rotate it once in 24 hours. The earth rotates at 0.000694 rpm very slowly. If you knew basic physics you would know mass attracts mass.
So tell me where does that water fall to and stick to from your tennis ball.....??? Answer. On to another much bigger spinning ball so hardly the big gotcha moment you were hoping for...
Wait, the tennis ball has gravity? So cool!
You need to investigate the the thousands of pre- digital photos of and from space.
The bible also tells us snakes and donkeys talk. Hardly a reliable source of information.
Thanks for proving gravity with your tennis ball as the water falls to the much bigger spinning ball.
Oh I hope you took 24 hours to rotate your tennis ball because only then would it match the rotational speed of the earth.
no one can prove gravity as well. It's such a bizarre idea when you seriously think of it. @@LV4EVR
But please interact with his argument! Underlit clouds. How can this be?
If the earth were spinning fast enough, the water would be flung off, just like your tennis ball example. A great number of ideas in the globe earth paradigm are observable and measurable with simple experiments and some high school math. I'm happy to interact, happy to learn, happy to be proven wrong.
There's no such thing as gravity......density and Buoyancy.......you need to break the public school programming
"you need to break the public school programming"
Says someone just repeating idiocy they heard from other idiots on RUclips.
What does the g in the buoyancy formula stand for again?
@@MrEjwheeler _"There's no such thing as gravity."_
*floats away*
Correct! One has to be completely willingly ignorant to believe in gravity or in the 100% fake spinning ball earth.
In reality, there are people in their basements showing that mass attracts mass.
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AMEN!! 😂🙌 Well said!
I fly a Corporate Jet with a service ceiling of 51,000’. This is 10-15,000’ higher than the airlines fly. I have been that high on a bright clear day, and there is no curvature. It’s completely flat. Love you Justin, but you’re wrong on this one.
So how do the sun's rays illuminate the bottom of the clouds if the sun is 30-3000 miles above them? And how, exactly, do you explain the sun casting the shadow from Mt. Rainer on the bottom of the clouds? How?
@@JustinPetersMinMany have already answered your questions in the comments. Why don't you listen?
Thank you! Pilots know!!!!!!
Isaiah 40:22 (KJV)
[It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Circle is not the same as a ball . Isaiah used both words in his book. He knew the difference
I have bought pizza that when I look at it from above, it looks like a circle.
And did you notice how he says stretch it out and not around!
Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house
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Yes, that's God's judgment on Shebna. I don't see how it's at all pertinent to this discussion.
@@johndeere2038rNobody speaks ancient Hebrew, so try again. You're wrong. The word you're using comes from YIDDISH invented in the 19th century by a Lithuanian (fake) jew.
You are in error on this one Justin, i hope you are open to being corrected
If he was, he would quit using the excuse that he is "too busy" to watch a documentary about the subject....but has tons of time to explain things like how Kenneth Copland is theologically unsound
he doesn't care, he's a calvinist. calvinists hate the bible. they only quote and teach what their freemason calvinist forefathers taught.
But please interact with his argument! Underlit clouds. How can this be?
Bolivian Salt Flats mirror an area the size of Connecticut with zero measurable curvature.
So a part of the Earth is flat? So?
These completely ignorant people do not care what all the evidence says, they only care what their Godless priests (scientists) say.
The actual measurements that have been done confirm the surface matches the ellipsoid of the globe.
Yet I still cannot see Pike's Peak from any reasonable hill in Saint Louis, MO.
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Not a part of earth, everywhere measurements are taken there is no curvature. You can do this experiment yourself in Chicago, California, Timbuktu, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Galapagos Islands. So now with this information you still have to research this. Do your own observation utilizing math. The excuses for how this can be ( no observable curvature ) are... ________________________ ? ? ?
believing the earth is round is actually a theory too called heliocentric theory . An if you research that you’ll find out its not actually a theory but a religion. fact the bible is a flat earth book ! Usually i believe justin has discernment but on this subject he has none .
There are two theories that incorporate a globe earth: The geocentric model which places the Earth motionless at the center of all creation and was the model supported by the Christian faith for over a thousand years. The other is the heliocentric model, which asserts the Earth is moving, orbiting the Sun, but contrary to the namesake does not put the Earth or Sun at the center of the universe.
I won’t be surprised if you promote Big Bang theory and evolution in your next video.
@@heegmaster That'd be good. A lot of faithful don't seem to understand either theory.
Or the definition of "theory" for that matter.
No, it isn't. It's been proven to be a sphere.
Yahweh stopped the sun and moon for Joshua and not the earth
Just wondering if you’ve ever actually researched what the Bible actually says in regards to the shape of the Earth?
"stablished and moveth not"
The Bible never uses the world/planet name "Earth" in order to discuss its shape. The Bible only discusses the "earth" (land, country/territory/region or its people, ground, soil). Here's exactly where flat Earth Bible interpretation goes wrong: SEEING "earth" (not capitalized) in scripture but interpreting it AS IF it were "Earth" instead.
@@ChipsAplentyBand 😂 have you read the creation account?!
he doesn't care. he's a calvinist. they hate what the Bible says. thats why they make up their own imaginary doctrines.
Oof. Isaiah 40:22
Destroying? Please, try again.
This channel has a ton of material debunking Flat Earth: www.youtube.com/@DaveMcKeegan
he's a calvinist. they only pervert what calvin taught. they hate what the Bible actually say. his puppet master john macarthur said it'll be ok to take the mark of the beast because you can repent later.
@@RosV-vn7dx Yep. A bunch of experiments disprove this "undeniable visual evidence". You can do it yourself, or find them in this platform.
Yup. Destroying. Destroyed.
But please address Justin's argument. Underlit clouds. How?
Wow, Justin Peters is commanding Christians to stop proclaiming and believing the Bible in a literal sense… interesting times we live in.
Yeah, except I'm not. At all. Stay tuned.
@@JustinPetersMin FE
By two or three witnesses agreed a matter is established
Do your own Bible homework:
How many times does it say the sky will be rolled back as a scroll?
How many times does it say the stars will fall from heaven?
How many times does it say there’s water above the firmament?
How many times does it say the sun stood still, and even moved backwards?
How many times does it say the sun and moon move, not the earth spins?
How many times does it say the earth is still and immovable?
Fun facts:
There is no up on the globe model… how is heaven and Gods throne above us on the globe? How did Jesus ascend UP into heaven from a globe?
Are christians not supposed to love truth?
Are christians not supposed to test everything?
Isn’t it a requirement for christians to forsake all (Luke 14:33), including indoctrination from evolutionists forced on literally everyone?
Add to that the fact that there are countless experiments anyone can do proving zero earth curvature, and zero proof of axial rotation, and you got yourself a classic case of man’s wisdom vs Gods wisdom.
Repentance from the globe deception brings clarity and fear of God in a really real way, taste and see, it’s beautiful.
@@JustinPetersMin and Justin, please explain why you used a totally fake flat earth model that no one, not even non christian flat earthers believe, to strawman this subject?
If you have a strong case there’s no need for deception.
@@JustinPetersMin FE
By two or three witnesses agreed a matter is established
Do your own Bible homework:
How many times does it say the sky will be rolled back as a scroll?
How many times does it say the stars will fall from heaven?
How many times does it say there’s water above the firmament?
How many times does it say the sun stood still, and even moved backwards?
How many times does it say the sun and moon move, not the earth spins?
How many times does it say the earth is still and immovable?
Fun facts:
There is no up on the globe model… how is heaven and Gods throne above us on the globe? How did Jesus ascend UP into heaven from a globe?
Are christians not supposed to love truth?
Are christians not supposed to test everything?
Isn’t it a requirement for christians to forsake all (Luke 14:33), including indoctrination from evolutionists forced on literally everyone?
Add to that the fact that there are countless experiments anyone can do proving zero earth curvature, and zero proof of axial rotation, and you got yourself a classic case of man’s wisdom vs Gods wisdom.
Repentance from the globe deception brings clarity and fear of God in a really real way, taste and see, it’s beautiful.
How about saving everyone some time. Learn the globe model, then try to defend it for yourself, when you fail, then start doing some research to see where you really live.
That requires humility and the willingness to stop lying to themselves. Many indoctrinated to helios (heliocentrism) worship absolutely refuse to even look and will let their sin of pride keep them in a willing suspension of disbelief.
Yep - that's the key to learning True Cosmology - I dare everyone reading this - go attempt to validate all the claimed "globe theory" attributes - If the earth were actually a globe and we could EMPIRICALLY prove that it was doing everything that the officials CLAIM it does - then there would be ZERO flat earthers in the world and it wouldn't be growing faster than anything out there...
Hi! The observation in the video is a great one for a discussion because it's so easily observed by anyone. How would you explain the underlit clouds? (Hi, I learned the globe model. It's actually very useful for predicting and explaining things. And the math involved is high-school level at best. I would be happy to explain and defend it, but I'm also happy to learn something and be proven wrong.)
@@lukejones5272 I'd love to show you Luke but they have me locked down here - figure out how to eemale me - and I'll explain all
@@zach3136 links, posts, articles, anything. Even a brief description of the model you prefer.
RUclips trying to control the narrative by referring to Wikipedia. 🤣😂
They side with Justin! 😄
I've watched multiple debunk videos and they almost always do this. I guess there is an algorithm checking for certain keywords.
@@THATjeffdelaneyYes! The world and all it’s corrupt systems do agree with a round earth.
... anytime you are in harmony with YT's "truth box" you should probably step back and re examine your position.
And Justin sides with God!
You can’t debunk anything Justin what you should do is study hard your Bible
So read Genesis 1st chapter again. The first day he created light. 2nd day he created the firmament. So he all day making the firmament. On the fourth day he created the sun and the moon. So how are you figuring the global model ?
And FYI we don’t believe that we live on a flat disk. That’s a lie. Funny you believe in something you cannot prove. Something you read in a book or were told by someone else. Yet you don’t believe what the Bible says. And the fact that you feel the need to be so rude and insulting is very telling.
Exactly! Memorizing lies at the Rothschilds institutes of indoctrination, doesn't make them true.
He must not believe the Bible 🫣
But please address Justin's argument. Underlit clouds. How?
Justin is arguing (proving) from an observation. Is there a FE model that fits the observations better?
Bible says earth is a stationary plane, trying reading it.
and my eyes say the earth is a globe. You are believing satans deception to make Christians look like utter fools
No they won't. The so called true Christians are really just narcissists. You have to believe as they do. Or you will burn in hell.
The bible also says donkeys and snakes talk go chat with them....
@@stanley626 No it doesn't, liar. You are just like the author of this video, a mocking clown.
@@stanley626 That's analogies, how is a fixed and immovable earth set between the waters above and the waters below an analogy for a spinning globe earth in outer space?
For someone who calls out false teachers and false teaching, for a living, you might want to study the Bible a little more on this subject. Will not YOU also be held accountable for what YOU are teaching? This is God’s creation we are talking about.
🌈 • The Hebrew word "raqia", translated as "firmament", is defined as a beaten out, extended surface, and a solid, vaulted dome.🌈
Can you send a piece to my address in Australia?
Psalm 104:5
1599 Geneva Bible
5 He set the earth upon her foundations, so that it shall never move.
You can't explain this away. It troubles me so called Pastors will preach to the church NASA propoganda and satans lies instead of just reading the word of God!!!!
Exactly. The earth is not moving. Bible says so in many places. Also explain to me where the foundation and pillars are in a ball.
@@sharondunasemant4130 well said! To believe the earth is a round spinning ball is akin to saying it's billions and billions of years old.
Amos 9:6 Geneva Bible 1560
He buildeth his spheres in the heauen, and hath layde the foundation of his globe of elementes in the earth: hee calleth the waters of the sea, and powreth them out vpon the open earth: the Lorde is his Name.
@@MCToon The KJ He who builds His layers in the sky, and has founded His strata in the earth.' Strata is dirt.
What is illogical reasoning to some is very logical to others. I can't really get on board with the sun being 96,000,000 miles away. I can barely see across the street but I can see something 96 million miles away? I don't see much value in mocking what sincere believers have studied with the help of God's Word. The Word does not describe a spinning hurling sphere chasing the sun. I believe the Word. I am a bit surprised at how hilarious you think it is that believers might be questioning the narrative that the world puts out there.
Because it's a lie and it keeps people from Christ. No sane person wants to follow a religion where it's leader forces you to deny reality to follow him. That's called a cult, and healthy people want nothing to do with them.
Nothing wrong with questioning the narrative, but the heliocentric model came LONG before NASA and all the deep state agencies that exist today. Also, Newton was a Christian and he saw physics as the study of how God created the universe and learning about how He designed creation would give us additional insight into the mind of God. HE knew the heliocentric model was right.
The problem with the Flerfs is they WANT to believe the earth is flat so they can feel superior, like they figured out something no one else has. It's that pride that won't allow them to accept the fact that they've been duped by the most ridiculous hoax EVER. There are plenty of RUclipsrs out there that have great videos proving beyond a shadow of a doubt the heliocentric model and indisputable proof of how the FE model does not work.
As an astrophotographer I have to deal with the heliocentric model daily. A German Equatorial mount would not work AT ALL in the FE dome model. Actually, there is nothing you could design that would allow for you to do long exposure photography (ie 10 minutes and more) if the earth were flat and space was a dome circling overhead. To do long term exposure you have to track the object precisely for that time AND correct for field rotation. A German Equatorial mount does that automatically with it's design. The ONLY way you could do long term tracking of an object on the FE model would be to be positioned at the north pole the center of the dome. As soon as you ventured from the center, there is nothing that by designed could follow the elliptical path that would be created by trying to track something off center from it's point of orbit.
The objects in the night sky(and the sun for that matter) ARC overhead, they do not circle overhead. Watch Orion at night. He rises from the east, laying flat on his back, rises to the south and is then vertical, but then goes face first into the western horizon. That is the motion of an arcing sky, not a dome circling overhead. If that were the case, Orion would skirt along the southern horizon on his back, the entire night.
As far as the sun, the fact that's it's size doesn't change as it arcs across they sky shows it's millions of miles away and not 2500 miles above us. IF the sun were that close, then it's size at the horizon would appear to be about a quarter of the size it is over head. As overhead it would only be about 2500 miles away, but at the horizon, about 5 thousand miles away.
The night sky is completely different for those in the southern hemisphere as those in the northern. We see completely different objects. That makes sense on a sphere, but not a disk with a dome.
A lunar eclipse is impossible in the FE model as there is no way to get the earth between the sun and moon.
The flight times in the southern hemisphere are completely off from the FE model, unless you want to believe those planes fly twice the speed of sound down there. The reason being, in reality, everything gets closer together as you go south from the equator in the southern hemisphere, but in the FE model they get further apart as you get aways from the equator. This happens when you splay the south pole apart to turn the globe into a flat circle.
I agree. Just bc we have a Biblical difference of opinion doesn't mean we should be laughed at or belittled like we are dumb.
@@MyHome7_Carla Believers should be encouraged to support each other. I don't know why this topic is so divisive. The Bible has a lot to say about it so I'm certainly not going to dismiss it!! Thanks for your comment!
You mean you don't think you would be able to see a sphere of fusing hydrogen which is 865,000 miles in diameter and has an apparent magnitude of -26. Which part of optical science tells you that you wouldn't be able to see it from that distance?
You can't fathom how huge it is compared to us and our planet. We can see it from that distance because it's just that big. If the Sun was small and close then it wouldn't have any capacity to give energy to the Earth, but thanks to it being a humongous sphere of fire the Earth has had endless free energy -- that's why we have plants growing and animals and all of that, life is always thriving. The law of entropy says that energy should eventually dissipate, but our planet is not in a state of entropy because we're always receiving extra energy from the giant fireball. (The Moon is closer and smaller than the Earth and it doesn't give us any energy like that.)
I am so so very disappointed…more than I can even find words for. I’ve looked to this ministry so often over the years for biblical guidance and truth from a pastor I have depended on. To see this post/ opinion/ about our perfectly designed beautiful stationery flat being so very obviously NOT investigated (and yet desperately trying to substantiate false Scientism)just breaks my heart and I know I can no longer support this ministry .
_To see this post/ opinion/ about our perfectly designed beautiful stationery flat being so very obviously NOT investigate_
the earth isn't flat. flat earth is an anti-science, anti-education cult of ignorance that preys on the gullible and delusional.
U wonder what he hoped to achieve with this video.. all he's achieved is to alert 1000s of people to the utter n0nsense and desperation of the spinning globet__dia heliocentric fake space religion.
@@johnqpublic7608 lol ... globet_rds 😂
@@unlimitedhangout5
you poor deluded dunce.
@@UnlimitedHangout
_"U wonder what he hoped to achieve with this video.."_
undoubtedly, he was trying to push back against the flattard idiocy that is being purveyed by conmen and loonies in religious circles.
A ministry that doesn't follow or use scripture 🤦♀️
You laugh, ridicule, and mock because that's all you have.
As a "minister," you will have to answer for this deception.
This Godless man is only a minister of the Godless worlds false manmade ungodly religion of scientism.
JP is not a Christian and has never been a Christian. He is and has always been a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Ah yes, because God will get angry at him for saying the earth is round!
Hallelujah
All the churches/ministries/ministers do not understand, follow, nor teach the truth of the Bible. They are all just the sellers of the Godless worlds religion of scientism that they call Christianity. It is all a den of thieves as JP is a perfect example of.
Two words. Rob Skiba.
Six words: Mary Morse Baker Glover Patterson Eddy.
Samuel Rowbotham😎
RIP Rob!
He passed?! @@ZZ442
What about him?
Is that why there are 200+ Bible verses that state the earth is fixed and the sun and moon are moving? Very poor video trying to debunk by saying the sun cannot illuminate the underside of clouds yet you believe the sun is 93m miles away doing that very thing. Poor Jistin, really poor. You have obviously done little or no true objective research on this. I think ill go woth scripture 1st then what my senses clearly show me.
Well done. You're much more polite than my resonse. I cannot understand for a minute why Justin would make this video. It's lost him my follow at least.
@@danielforde-pogson there's that astrophysicist who is a Christian moving in Reformed circles....i forget his name now.....James White also had him on.....ALSO, the "astronaut" Jeff Williams spoke at MacArthur's church.....
Check my response....not polite at all
The bible also talks about the four corners of the earth. Does that mean it's a square?
@@spykelexis 4 corners = 4 quadrants
There are many examples of such translations in the Bible, not just related to Flat Earth.
Thanks for asking
The Earth is flat covered by a dome....
How far the flat plain extends, who knows?
But as to that part inside the firmament, 4 quadrants.
@@leonpetersen7346 - Maybe if someone could produce a workable map for their FE hypothesis, it would receive more than just a bit of a laugh.
One thing about this vid that im so happy to see is just how many people have come to see the bible says the earth is flat and IMMOVABLE.
In 2016 when i was shown this truth there wasn't that many who saw the truth.
Yeah, turns out when people are just taught to believe something without supporting evidence, they take that evidentiary standard elsewhere and are pretty gullible as a result.
what next Justin??? "this picture is to prove that men have been to the moon and back??"
So, you're calling the Christian astronauts that went to the moon and back liars? And the Christian Pilots I know that see the shape of the earth as they fly, and the fact that they can fly around the whole globe and arrive back to their starting point without seeing the edge, liars?
It's interesting that the FEs I know are fine with insulting everyone else as faithless and dumb, yet when real evidence is given to debunk their theory they cry unfair.
God made the earth and everything in creation. That is the whole truth and the only thing we need to worry about defending.
Pray for discernment. The Bible proves a level and stationary earth.
Where??? Sorry it's not there. Make yourself a telescope. The ancient astronomers had this figured out thousands of years ago based on shadows.😂
No it doesn't.
You are seriously deceived and blaspheming God's name.
You are misrepresenting the Scriptures.
@trevrockrock16 I ask for God's discernment daily. But it doesn't take a genius to know the Earth is a sphere. If you stand on Lake MI, in MI and look towards Chicago, you can't see the bottom 3rd of the buildings. Unless you're on a 200 ft cliff in Grand Mere Park
You can destroy the globe model with God’s word.
Wrong.
and you can see the curvature by flying on an airplane. or let me guess, you think planes are fake?
@@GOATCommentor no you can’t. And where in the Bible does God describe a spinning ball flying through space? Theres hundreds of proofs for a stationary flat earth with the sun moon and stairs revolving overhead, but the only proof we have of a globe is NASA and their CGI pictures. Earth is the center of creation with Gods throne overhead.
@@GOATCommentorruclips.net/video/vbEyeXQ_fcA/видео.html
@@GOATCommentor well, no, you can’t actually.
The belief in a globe model, and that’s what they call it a model, is it a scientism religion. Is a difference between science and scientism (which is a religious belief system)
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@@GuardianSoulkeeper I do seem to miss out on post people do I only have a cell phone that is unfortunate
Please go and take photos at sunset again, multiple times, with different types of clouds, including thick clouds. That would be more proof than just one photo of these thin clouds that the orange light passes through.
Ask Kat Kerr the next time she flys back from heaven from her visit to Jell-O land with Santa Clause.
What a complete nutcase she is.
😅😅😅
Sad, but funny too.
Kat Kerr HATES FE because she hates the truth.
She is a major nutcase.
I have never heard a weaker defense of the ball earth. You got to try a little harder 😂
Click play.
He mentioned not one bible verse for his evidence...... That speaks volumes...! #GlobeIsDead
@@stephenmorrison335 Yeah. It shows the bible is irrelevant.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper Similar to your opinion I suppose.
@@stephenmorrison335 Probably why I didn't bother sharing my opinion.
Justin's most popular video has 11k comments in 3 yrs. This stupid little video has 5k comments in 3 days. People are waking up to truth.
Yes, thankfully people are waking up to what the earth that God made actually is. Sadly however, JP will never wake up to the truth, he is not of the truth, he is and has always been a godless man of the Godless world.
Amazing ain't it 😂 j dawg hasn't converted a single non globet__d to globet__dia, but HAS made THOUSANDS suddenly question it who otherwise wouldn'tve lol...brilliant.
I noticed that there's a lot of activity from religious nutjobs in this comment section compared to more secular videos. Just goes to show how gullible the faithful can be.
@@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445he can't wake up. he's a calvinist. his puppet master john macarthur is a freemason like his father was.
David Wiese from DITRH on RUclips proves Justin is wrong.
You've been debunked by David Weiss. Maybe you should interview him so you can school him
I want to see that, please do.
So does Taboo Conspiracy ruclips.net/video/IHAtHTxH6Jo/видео.html
Some clown lied about what this guy said and that's debunking to you?
Try thinking for yourself. Don't get your education from online trolls.
@GuardianSoulkeeper some clown? David weis is an expert on this topic and would destroy him with empirical truth. Your globe picture says alot.
@@Yanel5795 Weiss is a clown. Just because he is well rehearsed doesn't make him an expert.
Be harder to trick.
We see way too far for a curved earth.
This channel has a ton of material debunking Flat Earth. Particularly "seeing too far".
Enjoy: www.youtube.com/@DaveMcKeegan
We don't see far enough for a flat Earth.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper Vision is limited, and this has been used to successfully promote the earth as curved.
@@lovesandservesjesuschrist6752 Stop 'debunking' flat earth, and prove the globe instead.
@@vaulteddomeNot so limited we shouldn't be able to see landmarks from known distances.
Justin has been great with exposing false teachers. It's disappointing and a shame he's not using his platform exposing the global lies.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Justin Peters himself is a false teacher to be completely rejected. Get away from this man.
Amd he's a closet calvanist like macarthur. Calvanism is false and justo refuses to face that fact.
@Clouseauish he's a calvanist thats why.
@@truthisloveistruth9 what has he said that makes him a false prophet. Need to no the video title.
God is not the author of confusion so scripture would not describe a flat earth with a solid dome if it was untrue.
Just to add to your comment:
satan...t minus, nasa, has deceived the whole world just as it is written in Revelation.
Breaking the second Commandment of creating a ((graven)) image, getting everyone to worship it, while simultaneously calling the magical force that holds it all together ((gravity.)) "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."
(Exodus 20:4-6)
@@davidjohnson1463 and the word "nasa" is actually in the bible! it means "to deceive" and is found in Genesis 3:13, can be simply checked by going to blueletterbible and checking the original hebrew!
Fortunately, the Bible doesn't describe a flat earth.
fortunately? @@statutesofthelord why fortunately?
@@statutesofthelord did you miss Genesis and the Firmament?? That separates the waters from the waters???
Good to see the comments show that people are willing to believe the Bible and an overwhelming amount of physical evidence. However I’m sure it’s difficult to let go of the world and it’s doctrines.
All I see is satans deception in using flat earth crap to deceive Christians and make them utter fools to put off any new converts.
@@GOATCommentor Did you know that Copernicus was working for the Catholic Church when he invented the spinning ball 500 years ago ? You can find his book online, he has letter to the pope of Rome when they were coming up with this lie. Then 100 years ago another Catholic priest invented the Big Bang theory. There is a deception going on for the last 500 years, it's called the heliocentric model, made up by one man and used by fake science to convince people the Bible is wrong.
Heretic's, Justin Peters, and Ray (Dis)Comfort.
But please interact with his argument! Underlit clouds. How can this be?
Also, please be careful calling a fellow servant a heretic. You would not want the same judgment thrown at you for similar level ideas.
@@lukejones5272
TRUTH, matters. His ridiculous assumptions are LIES. Scripture confirms geocentric earth cosmology.
The establishment has been pushing the GLOBE agenda since Copernicus. It's a LIE.
Sorry if you've been duped; But Justin Peters has a responsibility to the people who listen to him. His ministry is now skewed with misinformation. That's his problem, and NOW he needs to REPENT.
Only thing this pic proves is that we do not live on a ball spinning 1000mph...you need a science lesson with Caleb 😵💫
It's not spinning at 1000mph - it's rotating at 0.004 degrees per second.
@@thedubwhisperer2157What's your evidence of that?
@@c-LAW A clock.
Are you talking about KKKaleb? The cross burning, Jew hating flerfer?
Anyone notice that Justin Peters has not provided 1 verse of scripture to back up his spinning, wobbling and tilty ball in space?
Because no such citations exist, obviously lol.
@@unlimitedhangout5 yep.
In this instance I have to agree with you. All the verses point to a flat dommed earth. You must understand that pastors are fallen as we are. This does not mean he is not a True Biblical Christian because he is. It means that for whatever reason, his eyes to this truth have not been opened. And, remember, believing in flat earth is not the corrnerstone in being saved.
@@ellachristina7730 On the contrary. To denigh the "creation" of God Is to denigh the handy work, as it is written. When one rejects the truth of the scripture they are to be sent out from the brethren.
I did notice that! Give him time. He's still looking.
What on God’s stationary FLAT earth, happened to you Mr Peters?!?!? 💔
there is no such thing as _"god's stationary earth"_ that is the ignorance of imbeciles.
My GOODNESS Justin Peters! A mind to 'think' is a gift from God, use it. Perspective is a basic principle of physical foundational empirical science. The claim made in your video is a sad example of a careless attempt to decieve and enslavew humanity.
People who believe the earth is flat may get ridiculed but you’ve got the devil cracking up hard, believing his lies and teaching against the truth
Amen !!
Preachers like this are so pathetic
@@zach3136 he is brainwashed, like the rest....how about applying "study to show yourself approved" before teaching....myself, and others, like you, been looking into and studying this since 2015
It’s sad when pastors resort in battles they know nothing about. He needs a better understanding that he may see his error.
@@TruthisinChrist2746 Like actors and politicians, because of the nature of having a presumed authority over others; the position of being a preacher attracts a certain kind of narcissist - I'm not saying ALL, only that there seems to be a noticeable predisposition towards narcissism.
Narcissists refuse to be WRONG and therefore often find themselves burning down their own creations in the process of attempting to appear correct and intelligent to others...
Is a bit strange..a guy whose niche is exposing false teachings takes this stance. The Bible has 200 verses supporting a stationary plane. The Matthew 1537 Bible clearly says it's flat. I'll pray for Justin Peters, Apologia, and Comfort who have been influenced or compromised on this truth.
I literally just said the almost exact same thing to my friend 😳
Thankfully I no longer watch Mr Peters as much as I did when I was on my first year of being Christian. And same with Mr Comfort too, who keeps telling everyone, when he’s out in the streets evangelizing that he “no longer sins,l at all or at least willingly!” 😳😓😬
@@theprayingiguanabengalmommaMr Comfort does sin...he doesn't keep all 10 Commandments, and he celebrates Christmas and Easter and all that jazz. Not Biblical!
I'm so glad you said "supporting" and not "proving"....many folk don't know the difference.
I'm a flattie, but i have issue with MANY of the verses used....
For instance, in JOB 37:18 it is ELIHU speaking, NOT GOD....
He is not contradicted, nor is he castigated along with Job's other 3 friends.....but it is NOT GOD's words. Not conclusive then.
The highest points should go to the verses stating "immovable" earth, and "set on pillars",
God's OWN WORDS regarding "boundaries for the oceans" ( also in Job ) should also get a LOT MORE WEIGHT.
wrt Apologia....i think it was James White who interviewed the Christian Astrophysicist ( i just CANNOT remember the guy's NAME!!! )...anyhoo...at least James White did not take the attitude that JP does here.......
Unbelievably, though, the SCIENTIST (!!!) made the example of "ships over the horizon".....yeah, atrocious, i know. The struggle is real.
Also says Angel's at the 4 corners of the earth
Man, I really thought you were legit. Shame
Sorry that you're confused by this. The shadow on the clouds from the sun's light is due to the mountain passing through the clouds. If this were a shadow caused by a sun going around a globe, you'd see earth curve shadows on the clouds every single day. Taboo conspiracy does some great videos on this.
He's so confident he will never have a live discussion with some real flat earth researchers. We have been waiting for him to accept the 3 Bitcoin proposition. He wind 3 Bitcoins if he can provide 1 globe proof. He owes $0 if he can't. Who wouldn't accept that?
I would love to see that! I’ve offered to speak to him and share all I know including my videos/imagery from my p900 full spectrum and p1000. Crickets. Sad to see Christians bash others but will not step into a debate.
@@nothingnewunderthesun8042 Video footage of objects over an expanse of water with those two cameras obliterate the globe. Especially objects whose location can't be questioned (like oil platforms). It's not even remotely close. Hypnotic effect of the constantly reinforced indoctrination from cradle to grave.
You must also believe that man walked on the moon 😂
And that our next destination is Mars and Elon musk is a great guy
They have pictures of the shadows of the flags on the moon.
@@giocatore_83 that’s literally not true ! You got a lot to unpack friend, good Lu k in your research
@@giocatore_83those photos were created. Plus, the flag was waving from wind..there's no wind in space!!
I write this to Christians. Take whatever position you want on this topic of the Earth. One thing is absolutely clear and irrefutable. The Bible is Hebrew and comes from their culture. Hebrew cosmology was 100% flat earth. Hebrew and Jewish cosmology are systematically flat earth. Period. So the question becomes why did Jesus, the Son of God, come to the Hebrews 2000 years ago and never correct the cosmology? The second irrefutable fact is that the Bible absolutely describes over and over a motionless, flat earth under a solid firmament... this is in 100% alignment with Hebrew cosmology. So believe what you want about the earth (and that is what you are doing .... choose your BELIEF). But to state that the Bible is not a flat earth cosmology is to twist and distort what the Bible actually states, clearly, repeatedly.
It is very straightforward.
Anyone claiming otherwise is distorting what is actually written in the Bible and adding in the darkened human beliefs of today to appease a secular, demonized world. It is a misguided attempt to make the Bible fit into today's religion of scientism and its atheistic and distorted definitions of 'science' and 'reason'.
The Bible is a flat earth cosmology. If you don't believe that cosmology then you simply believe that the Bible is in error. It just is what it is. Deal with it as a Christian as you will.
BTW Justin, don't get involved in this topic without actually doing your own research first... a lot of it. It is simply embarrassing when people do these simplistic videos with the mistaken arrogance that "flat earthers" must be crazy and stupid and unresearched. It ends up making you look bad and you seem like a nice guy (most glober zealots are extremely arrogant and obnoxious). This simplistic argument has already been dealt with many times with endless pictures and analysis. Everyone needs to do their own research and you have to dig for it. Know that all 'flat earth' experiments and channels are highly suppressed by RUclips and Google (of course right, we know what Big Tech really is... don't we??). So you have to dig for it now or search using a real search engine.
TIP: Find the YT channel @whitsitgetsit and study for yourself. Think for yourself.
Very well said. A qualification of a leader / pastors is "being teachable" this is written in the hearts of the sons and daughters of God. ( Used to be in scripture and is now preserved in the body of Christ ). Where there is a lack of genuine humility PRAY, believe that God is working on removing these prideful areas out of all of His children. Who is really a follower of Jesus, is known perfectly by Abba. Somehow God is going to reconcile all things back to Himself. Astounding days to live where once again The Word of God is made more sure to those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
where is the spherical atmosphere? Cloud formations suggest a dome over a disk not a globe.
YES, how would there even be pressure if there was nothing between us and "outer space" lol
@@eruantion Top of Mount Everest, air pressure 30% of sea level, but no container.
Why do you think you need a container for 30% -> 0% when none is needed for 100% -> 30%?
@@Zodiac4711
The vacuum of “space” would suck earth every from earth.
It was round now they say it's a pear. Hahahaha It's flat!
Evidence?
Another Globe Gobbler for Jesus who has not read his Bible...
Flat earther here. Yes I subscribe to Biblical cosmology
Hi Flatziod, maybe you could discuss this on your show, and post the link here?
@@exploringtheplane Already doing it live now lol
ruclips.net/video/u2t4iVvxmfY/видео.html
@@FlatzoidsPerspective Very cool, I'll watch it later, thanks!
1 Chronicles 16-30 Tremble before him, all the earth. The world is firmly established. IT CANNOT BE MOVED.
You have no idea what that scripture passage means, do you?
@@krakoosh1question? Multiple times in the Bible it says the earth did not move, so what does it really mean?
@@robert7879 They chose to believe NASA instead of the Holy Scriptures. Blessings, stand strong.
@@trevrockrock16 no it doesn’t. Read the context
Whether the verse is literal or abstract, the earth is firmly in it's place in the universe.
If we live on a ball, roughly 50% of all shooting stars should appear to go upwards. They all go downwards.
Explain.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper if you live on a spinning ball, up and down is relative. If you see a shooting star fall, someone should see that same star going up relative to their position. But you never see that.
@@BrokTheLoneWolf Down is towards Earth. If shooting stars are going up, they're coming from the Earth?
@@GuardianSoulkeeper on flat earth yes. But on your ball your up is down for someone in China.
Do you think a shooting star flies through the earth so that it can fly up on the other side?
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I suggest anybody reading this comment needs to watch the documentary Helios sorcery to understand where this is coming from and why they are teaching it