The Mass Effect 5 Theories I’m Keeping vs. Throwing Out
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Here are all the 2023 Mass Effect 5 theories I'm keeping versus throwing out the airlock.
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📖 Chapters
00:00 The Multiverse Theory's Going Where??
00:36 ME3's Canon Ending is Not Destroy
00:56 Trailer Planet is Alchera
01:22 Teaser Trailer Wormholes
02:20 Mordin, Thane, and Jaal
02:51 SFX-5 & Mass Effect 5
03:10 Intercept Analysis Theories
04:05 Kallo, Ryder, and Drack
04:28 Connecting Black Holes
05:23 Jardaan are Prothean
05:48 Story-Related Theories
06:08 N7 Day 2023 Theories
06:33 Multiverse Theory?!
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The fact that Liara is coming back proves that they are canonizing some choices, as she could die in some endings if your military strength was low enough
I had the same thought....until I saw a Gamble tweet that might've implied there are multiple Liaras in an AU scenario. *insert crazy conspiracy guy GIF*
Legit though, I'd be fine with them retconning the final beam run squadmate deaths. And/or canonizing anything honestly. I'm just desperate for the next game. 🙃
@@paragonseven you’re lucky. You’ve only had to wait since 2021 😔
@@ripabner Not even, cause I played it August 2022. 🥲 I wouldn't be able to survive if I played it any sooner lmaoo
You have to remember the allusiveman said, in the video that there will be an EVA another VI made one that will be assured of getting the job done and staying loyal.
Eva was made to be a successor to EDI, then took over by EDI. So, highly doubt it's Eva.
In the scene with the Illusive Man in the Cerberus HQ (which what I assume you're referencing here), it was establishing the reason that Eva existed (Eva being the AI we chased on Mars). Eva was made to replace EDI, and hilariously, EDI eventually took over her metallic form as her body.
I still think the only way to work around the ending Is by making the Indoctrination ending at that point evry thing starts overyou could literally make a new ending💯👍
I mean the ME team had established that the indoctrination theory wasn't legit (albeit a very smart fan theory) after the release of ME3...so even though it's a great loophole, I don't think that's what they'll do.
The alternate universe is an over-used trope. I don't think it's going to go in that direction.
Glad to have you back!
Lovely to see you back and on good form 😊
As usual, I agree with everything you say, I just go along with you happily.
Certainly looking forward to your teaser trailer analysis and new name for multiverse?
Liara, as shadowbroker watching all this, shadow on window looking at relay, watching the cool trenchcoat person and ? reflected on the floor in the night club? Can't remember where I saw that written but I can see it.
Your theories mean we can have Shepard back and include Andromeda so I'm happy.
Will look out for your next video.
So what you're saying is there's alternate universe where the teaser trailer analysis had your face? The multiverse theory lives!!! 😊💜
Hahah I love this so much! 😂 It was actually this video that had cam footage, but I guess it would have broken the timelines or something so the footage had to die 🙃
Good to have you back
What if we're right? What if the fans completely figure out the plot of the game through hints and theorycrafting? How would that affect your enjoyment of the game if the major plot beats were something you'd guessed? Would you be happy that you were right, or disappointed that the writers didn't surprise you? I'm sure there will be tons of side content and expanded lore that will be complete surprises, but like what if we low key nailed it? I wonder how fans would react.
I like theorizing for a ton of things (like TV shows, movie series, etc.), and sometimes I've been right, sometimes I've been wrong. Either way. it hasn't affected how much I've enjoyed the eventual reveal of a story beat, it just makes the anticipation of it less boring. 😊
Welcome back! :D
I still think that we saw a new mass relay that was sent to andromeda shortly after the arcs left. That could connect the galaxies and make ME5 set after MEA.
Hmmmm....might need to chew on this. You know you just about had me convinced on the Mult-Verse.
But it's because I would love to have one of them be a Control- Dark Shepard (renegade/ruthless) leading the Reapers. Imagine Shepard mind, being to call on the knowledge of the Milions of Races over millions of years. All why knowing the strengths and weaknesses of Shepards' companions...bet Liara would reget giving Shepard to Cerberus then? (😉 Yeah, I know It was Miranda who put Shepard back together)
But hey, that's just me
-You know an "AI Shepard" (not to be confused with the Shepard VI ) would not be out of the realm of possibility in a synthesis ending?
-Shepard breath from destoryed means someone took Shepard off the citadel, and now the Companions are seaching cause they need Shepard to save the Mass Effect universe cause you know... Bioware messed up and killed Shepard off. (Sorry, that still sticks in my craw)
Can't believe you threw out the Mult-Verse Paragon, but now you have given me new ideas to think about 🤔 have to watch your video again
To clarify, I haven't completely tossed out all of the ideas in it, I'm simply reframing it (and re-naming it) so that it better suits the ideas that were the heart of it all along. Quite a bit of the main points are staying from the original theory as I'll soon be covering.
I don't think that Jardaan and Prothean can be the same. In Andromeda, it's stated that Jardaan tehnology is by far less inferior to the Prothean (it should be in one of the vault quests) it's more similar to the Human omni-gel but more advanced.
What do you think of the galaxies merging? An interesting vid as always. I also think worm holes could play a role.
I don't see the galaxies merging, that would involve a ton of death (smashing galaxies is not conducive to people surviving). I really feel like wormholes are the route they're gonna go for the Andromeda crew reaching the Milky Way again.
You’re back! :)
Great video. I take a bit of a different angle on the time travel theory. It's a stretch of current real-world theories, but that can be said of all of Mass Effect. Hear me out. If they could come up with an idea that bridges dark matter and dark energy and then use the dark matter from the Scourge in Andromeda as the basis for time travel, it could tie up loose plot ends from both the original trilogy and Andromeda. Plus, it would allow for an Angara to be present in the Milky Way, as it appears in the teaser, shortly after the events of ME3. As of yet, neither the dark matter of the Scourge nor the dark energy plot from ME2 have been explained. Taking this angle would allow for both to be further expounded upon, if not entirely explained.
Going thru a black hole? It’s just compact mass… It would be like crashing into the moon because you thought it would teleport you to somewhere else 😂😂
Surprisingly, it's a lot more complicated than this (and believe me, I also thought that going into a black hole meant certain death). There's a ton of current physics theories that predict that wormholes via blackholes *could* (emphasis on could) be a thing, and a lot of sci-fi books, TV shows, etc. use the concept frequently to either jump to far away places and/or alter time.
I prefer the concept of only wormholes for doing space-time stuff personally (as opposed to blackhole wormholes which is very confusing), but there is definitely a case for blackholes being able to accomplish the same type of things pure wormholes supposedly can do.
your back yes!!!!!!!
What about the potential for multiple protagonists and multiple antagonists(even having 2 of each is multiple to a degree).
From what I've seen, it's possible for both Shep and Ryder to co-exist, but I'd personally prefer just one protagonist (ideally Shepard).
Multiple antagonists have always been a thing in the trilogy (Saren & Reapers in ME1, Collectors & Reapers in ME2, the Illusive man & Reapers in ME3), so if the trend continues it's likely the next game will have multiple antagonists, but who knows?
Everything we've gotten so far has been extremely vague.
Imagine when the next ME game does come out and everyone goes back over these recordings and every piece of N7 day content and picks out things that they got right or wrong or didn't see coming. Theories that were way off or spot on. I hope you do podcasts with other ME content creators and a ton of your own videos when that day comes around Paragon7. I'll have my emergency induction port at the ready.
Oh those analysis breakdowns are what I'm looking forward to the most! I have so many ideas planned for if the theories are right or wrong and it's probably only going to see the light of day years from now. 😂
Ok hear me out... what if Conrad verner is the benefactor XD🤣
I'd laugh as long as Joker did after Shepard said that they could dance. 🤣
what about the fact that Shepard might have brother/sister?
Hmm I haven't really considered this (cause I haven't seen evidence of this anywhere) but that'd be one solid way to keep *a* Shepard's story going.
It is interesting to theorize. I like it. However, I personally think it will not be a multiverse thing in the next game. From a development point of view it is so so much work to work out in the end. Energy and recourse that can be spend to make one single better story.
But it doesn’t matter, it is out the airlock anyway
What if Liara's redacted role is Justicar
NO! Don't use the airlock! Use the launch tube for the Thanix Cannon. Too much?
Amazing hahah, I even read this in Javik's voice. 😁
I think it's mass effect 4 since the third game said it was gonna continue and we get mordin and thane back that's nice a reunion all we need now is kaidan
Could that be Kalo from Andromeda?
I think the salarian in the 2020 teaser trailer is Kallo. Jury's out on the salarian in the 2020 Mudskipper photo lol
I think the Mudskipper salarian is a place holder, concept art for a salarian character. I don't think it was meant to represent anyone in particular. @@paragonseven
Wooooo new video 🎉
Against all odds this video finally got done! 🥲
Thane has a son. It could be him, perhaps?
Definitely considered it, and honestly it makes more sense, but if they are teasing Shepard's return, then the return of other characters who've died is in the realm of possibility. Not saying it's a good idea, but at this point, anything's possible.
@@paragonseven It's not Mass Effect with out Shepard. He can be cloned again, and Liara melded with Shep near the end of the final mission. I think she could have captured his soul, like what Spock did to McCoy, in Star Trek 3, in a flashback of Star Trek 2. That was a huge retcon. Nimoy was done with Spock after ST2, but the movie did so well, the studio begged him to come back.
Mas Effect with our Shep, is like Halo with our Master Chief. Sure, you CAN have a game without him, but if you want that game to sell......you have to have him in the game.
I'm personally not a fan of time travel or Multiverse, IMO a historical conceit should be held, also the Jaardan are Prothean I don't really care for, they should be their own thing
My fan idea'/write-up for what a Mass Effect 5 should be does a time jump to line up with Andromeda and teases a multiverse and all the main players think that with conflicting narratives of history all claiming the ME3 endings as true but there is a canon ending with a real history and then it's explained where the other two "timelines" come from which involves Dark Energy, vacuum collapse, simulation theory and the Lazarus project will be bought back into relevance.
With Liara at this being in late Matron /Early Matriarch stage being the main thrust of the narrative
In my opinion when it comes to multiverse and parallel worlds that's when a franchise starts losing all creativity and begins its downfall.
Are we gonna get a spider-man no way home kinda mass effect?
I wouldn't mind! But based on the general response to any multiverse thing ever (lol) it'll probably implode the fanbase 🙃
I really hope they stay away from multiverses. Also, time travel. Both concepts usually lead to frustrating twists or results in the audience feeling like nothing that happens matters.
It should be called mass effect 4 Andromeda is a spin off since it’s not called mass effect 4 and therefore we shouldn’t call the new one mass effect five
Ugh, I hate multiverses almost as much as time travel. If they want to do good sci-fi they will not use these tropes, these tropes are only good when they are the central premise of the story. That blurry image of maybe-Jarl also looks like Jar Jar Binks. Personally I don't see why the Andromeda crew couldn't build a mass relay to get back to the Milky Way. The protheans built one on Ilos and matriarch Aethyta preached about building new mass relays centuries ago. The know how to build new relays is there. And if the jaardan are protheans there might even be mass relays in Andromeda already. Though I don't like the idea that the jardaan are prothean, though there is some logic to the idea that at the height of the prothean empire they would have looked to invade and subjugate Andromeda. I would rather they find a way to use black holes as mass relay slingshots that allows an inter-galactic jump, rather than flying through a black hole to get to another black hole. That's not even how the science hypothesis works, you fly through a black hole and come out of a white hole. At least use existing black hole travel speculation. That's got to be another rule of good sci-fi, don't use existing science hypotheses plausibly, don't make up stuff unless it's 100% made up with no link to real science, like eezo and mass effects.
Its been so long since I played ME that I can sparsely recall the specifics but ME3s canon ending was ALWAYS synthesis. This was basically confirmed when the added DLC technically didnt change anything and only reinforced the synthesis ending
The truth is the ME3 canon ending is "The last temptation of the Shepherd" Or basically Babylon 5. Shepherd is essentially a religious figure there to guide humanity to the next cycle. This was confirmed by an off the record dev (fairly low level one) who when this theory was laid out refused to answer if it was right or not simply by telling me "thats too close for me to confirm or deny"
The ME3 ending was secretly brilliant as it was a meta ending knowing how people would react and they basically hit it dead on.
So technically there should be no ME5 unless its a "time travel episode" or prequel going into the franchises past, a "falliout" title that explores the IMMEDIATE fall of the galaxy and doomed people trying to basically survive Armageddon. or it simply should not exist.
ANYTHING involving Shepherd or any of the cast from Me1-3 is NOT respecting fans or the franchise. Sorry. Its a direct insult and undoes basically everythingthe first 3 games set up. So even though there MIGHT be room for "wormholes" as essentially being untapped structures that Mass relays are built around, the concept of wormholes and alternate realities is so off base that it again nullifies the relevance of what the first 3 games set up.
So If any of that is in the game, Sorry bioware.. I wont be buying ME5 and I guess Ill just have to wait for Dreadwolf instead. They should have seriously let the property die and start over with a spiritual successor without all the baggage that will piss people off because it WILL nullify canon to make its new story. Some way or another.
Meaning no disrespect but why are you attempting to decide for the rest of the community what we are and aren’t supposed to feel? Am I less of a Mass Effect fan because I would like to see more of Shepard and her crew? Am I less informed for choosing a different ending? And it’s BioWare’s story, not ours. How would it be disrespectful for them to take another path that doesn’t match your very particular personal preferences? I don’t think you meant it this way, but it comes across as a very entitled and possessive way to view the franchise.
It seems you want to wall off potential plots based on your own preferences. That is your right, but you aren’t allowing BioWare any maneuver room in a creative sense as you are putting your headcanon over not only the game, but everyone else’s own opinions. Citing snippets of random devs does not make a convincing case for a canon ending. And without starting yet another ending debate, but your evidence is lacking and seems based off of misremembering matters. I’m not sure what dlc has to do with anything either. If you mean the extended cut, I would note that epilogue slides often are rendered non-canon in BioWare sequels. See the Dragon Age games for examples of this. And canon is routinely changed: see the Terminus systems changing in meaning as well as other aspects of the universe. Changing canon to improve a storyline is neither good nor bad, but is a tried and true part of writing.
Once again, I mean no disrespect, but I just can’t agree with this. On a brighter note I am very excited for Dreadwolf. I love Dragon Age as much as Mass Effect.
@@UNCKayakfish No disrespect taken. Its the internet... we all know the going rate for opinions from random asshats on the internet. Myself included.
But I digress....
Well that would probably be because there WAS a canon and intended ending to and they delivered it. So while I can understand fans desire to continue the story, that continuation HAS to come at the expense of what has already been established and retconing as they go. Remember, this is EXACTLY why they tried to move the franchise to Andromeda in the first place. Not to distance itself from the backlash of the ME3 ending, but the ME3 ending did not leave pathways forward. So the setting HAD to change.
I am not trying to "decide for the community" I just have an expectation for the franchise to remain true to what has already been established and sorry, Milky Way ME did NOT leave many if ANY legitimate avenues to go forward. Effectively that galaxy was "destroyed" in all 3 endings. Certainly none where people are fishing around for Shepherd relics and potentially resurrecting him... again. Literally making ANY ME game set in the MW outside of one set BEFORE the events or concurrent to the events of ME1-3 MUST break the established canon simply to exist..
Its sort of like building the base of the pyramids... Only to let other people take over production and finish the top half with mobile home trailers stacked on top of each other instead of stone.
Its not my personal preference. Its going to be another dev team stomping on canon like Mario through a field of mushrooms and what details we have about ME5 already confirms that.
@@ViroVV Thanks for the reply. I’m not convinced, especially by the implication the current team is stepping on canon as opposed to broadening horizons. But, agree to disagree and appreciate the tone of the conversation.
It can be a prickly subject, and it’s nice to disagree without going too far.
Either way, we should know more after Dreadwolf releases. I suspect BioWare is very hesitant to make any major reveals that might suck the oxygen out of the room until after Dreadwolf is out the door. Speaking of which, my expectations for the game are reasonably positive but I am beyond excited at the prospect of a new Dragon Age game. I’ve been waiting since Trespasser in 2015 to continue that story, and the light is at the end of the tunnel finally.
Oh I'm glad you don't believe in multiverse. And I really hope devs don't go down that route. It's primitive anyway
It's a tad bit confusing but I still believe that a multiverse is possible, just not at the heart of the main story that they're going to tell. Full thoughts on everything soon.