The Multiverse Theory Died. A Single Page Killed It
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The most divisive theory on the channel was killed by a top secret page revealed in The Final Hours of Mass Effect 3 by Geoff Keighley.
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📖 Chapters
00:00 R.I.P. Multiverse Theory Page
00:27 The Beginning of The End
01:15 The Top Secret Page
02:15 Walters' Contradiction
03:05 Why I Believe What I Do
05:18 The Critical Mistake
06:45 The Heart of The Multiverse Theory
07:40 - The Bloopers To End All Bloopers
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I hope ME 4/5 is not another multiverse or time travel game. That plot has already been used a lot. Even if i don´t want that theory to be true, ty for your videos. I have a lot of fun watching them.
I never subscribed to this theory but i always loved how out there it was regardless. Also i loveddddd the Final Days of Mass Effect 3!
I appreciate that! Hopefully the new theory makes a bit more sense all around, even if parts of the old theory still remain.
YES the Final Hours was SO good!! Blew my mind how much they revealed their process for developing everything. The interviews were fascinating.
2:48 it’s Schrödingers Shepherd, Shep is both alive and dead until we buy the next Mass Effect game ;)
I love this so much 😂
I have the exact same thought.
You never disappoint with your well-thought-out content, young lady👍👍👍👍👍
I still think bioware never intended to bring back Shepard back. But hugely discounted fans' feelings for their Shepard and story after so much being put into the games and then, not understanding they "reopened wounds" with legendary.
Then again, here, fans are still talking about it years and bioware can have fans rejoice that their Shepard is back.
It's an interesting discussion for sure. I think they felt done with Shepard's story, but have heel-turned and are making moves to bring them back. There's a lot to unpack on the why of it though, so I might save my thoughts for a future vid.
@@paragonsevenI agree. And I’m not bothered by a change in heart by BioWare. I mean, that’s how creative projects work. Ideas shift and change in response to feedback all the time, and BioWare is also in a very different place than it was during ME3’s development. I’m much more positive about BioWare than many these days, but I recognize they need to play it safe a bit to help ensure success given everything that’s happened in the studio and in the gaming industry. I enjoy Andromeda, but public perception is still very negative on it, and I feel the game will need to harken more to the first three games. The project ultimately needs to perform well, and playing it a little too clever might backfire for them.
Shepard having a role (even if not our player character) might help win fans over. If nothing else, we really need some closure. Having Shepard take that breath in perfect destroy opened a door that can’t just be ignored. Whether that reflects the original intentions doesn’t really matter any more, as it’s now part of the game, especially after Legendary having the extended cut be part of the default experience for new players.
Even more so, and I admit this is sentimentality more than anything, I want something for the original voice actors. Even if it’s cameo roles or perhaps just archival vids. If the games move past the original set of characters, with the exception of Liara, I can live with it if we get some story resolutions. Selfishly, I want another adventure with the old crew, but I also know at some point the torch needs to be passed on. I definitely don’t envy the team having to balance all this.
@@UNCKayakfish I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said.
Just found your channel. I'm loving the speculation!
Hello, and welcome! If you liked this, beware of the other unhinged theories on the channel. 😁
Goodmorning from the east coast! Just wanted to remind you when Shepperd went to go kill the Illusive man, in one of the video's he states that there will be another AI called EVA and that she will be under control and loyal to his cause/Cerberus group. Your bloopers crack me up so funny.
I think I addressed this in an earlier comment somewhere, but Eva was the doctor who we chased on Mars and eventually became EDI's body. The Illusive Man in that video provided the explanation for why Eva existed.
Glad you enjoyed the bloopers, they were absolutely priceless this time around! 😂
I’ve always had a thought that, while it may disappoint some, it would be surprisingly easy to write around the endings and return to something resembling the status quo. Destroy? They rebuild, things are mostly normal. Control? Reapers rebuild, leave. Synthesis? They rebuild, and the effects of synthesis with the glowy green hive mind may not be permanent and passed to future generations.
As for Shepard’s survival, same thing. Destroy just allows that outright. Control, Shepard is alive still just as the overmind of the Reapers. Synthesis it’s a little funkier but maybe they survive in a manner similar to Keiji with his graybox. In either of the two instances where Shep is alive in a more virtual form they could be given a body just like EDI.
This would definitely upset a lot of people who would complain about the lack of impact their choices had but they could still have major impacts in other ways. Destroy wiped out synthetic life. In Control the Reapers survived. Synthesis even if it didn’t last forever would still leave a galaxy changed in its wake and maybe a bunch of glowing green old-timers walking around talking about the “good old days” when all were one.
I’m probably wrong about everything I just said, but look forward to being proven wrong by BioWare in the next game. lol
I love theories like this, and honestly think it's what they might go with in the next game. It wouldn't be too hard a stretch to have linearities between each of the endings, IMO.
With good writing everything is possible. I agree, that they can easily write the endings into the same or very similar state, just let a few years pass by. I think it's harder to implement other important decisions into the new story, like curing the genophage, geth-quarian conflict saving the rachni queen. Everyone is only talking about the endings but these also have long lasting consequences that can shape the galaxy in many ways.
Interesting idea that could work but it's not even needed in fact.
In ME2 players could perfectly well kill everyone Shepard included, those saves simply couldn't be transferred to ME3.
Simple as that all saves with bad destroy, control or synthesis are dead ends that don't get ported to ME4/5.
Now they just have to deal with perfect destroy and what to do about Geth and EDI and other potential Synthetic lifeforms that should have been destroyed.
And there are many ways to do so, they were rebuilt as you suggested or maybe the catalyst lied to try and avoid destruct. They might even have been temporarily disabled and just needed time to boot back on for example.
@@JezaGaia It crossed my mind too. Maybe we are overcomplicating this. They can do the same thing you wrote, about not being able to import a playthrough where Shepard is dead. But if Shepard is not coming back they'll have to deal with all the endings.
Shepard alive, groans, i hate it. I personally always thought that Shepard dying make perfect sense and is the only kind of ending that make sense. And also those idea of bringing back Shepard with Lazarus project again show how that was a stupid idea to begin with and kill all possible tension.
The lasers project was a plot device to print Shepherd back so long as there were still remains to work with.
The technologies that facilities Angarain reincarnation and Ket "exaltation" in combination allows for another option, though it would still require someone else to make the ultimate sacrifice for it to work.
This is an excellent point. Liara finding Shep's armor piece could bring a smile to her face because she's recently received information about the Andromeda galaxy's capability to "reincarnate" beings. Those scenes tied together could be the start of the game. Liara reincarnates you and there is your character creation for a new Shep.
Or perhaps,
The game starts with a new character somehow linking up with Liara, finding out the information about Andromeda's capability for reincarnation and the premise of the game is reincarnating Shep to lead the fight against a whole new big bad. It could be the start of a new trilogy that also ties Andromeda in. Perhaps the new big had is from the Andromeda galaxy Kett or Jardaan. Maybe we side with the Kett because the Jardaan return from wherever they've been and they're truly a horrible people. This would be much like how Liara made us think the Protheans were such a benevolent type and boy were we wrong after meeting Javik.
So the only ending where Shepard lives is the only one where he/she *CAN'T* be found alive.
Brilliant. 🤦♂
That is unironically brilliant
Yes!!! Thank you for a well-reasoned way to keep Shepard in the next game. I want that more than anything! :D
😅 You're the best Paragon7 (or was it Dame Edna?) who doesn't love bloopers 😂
Very interesting and well presented thoughts, as usual.
You've cheered me right up, I was starting to think perhaps Shepard might not come back 😭 then immediately I see you and absolutely Shepard is coming back 😁
May I recommend a paper shredder?! 🙃 poor multiverse theory, it didn't want to go.
Please don't leave us hanging on the cliff too long, my upper body strength is not good at the moment!
Also, I am nosy so looking at your very neat shelves, I can't see a special item I thought might be on show 😉
The dang page just wouldn't rip! 🤣 Solid idea with the paper shredder I'll do that next time lmao 😂
Next up will probably be a livestream next week but the following Monday (should) be the new theory reveal!
And don't worry, the framed picture will be there for my next video! I filmed this before it arrived. But definitely will be displayed next time! 💖
Livestream, that'll be fun 😁
I'll keep hanging for now.
Still not framed mine, I might copy yours next week!
Hope you have a nice weekend.
@@Jswin-fi2pn You as well, have a good one!
A cliffhanger? Not very Paragon 😂 I love it!
Even Paragons need a bit of Renegade now and then! 😁
@@paragonsevenAgain love it
If Shepherd needs to be reassembled AGAIN, they're going to just be Saren 2.0 lol
I pose a question about the N7 insignia Liara found? What if it's from Legion's armor instead of from Shepard's? Just thinking of alternate endings and stories. And yet another question what if it's from Alec Ryder's armor, after all we don't know what planet or galaxy that frozen planet is or in?
The specific piece is from an N7 helmet, but IIRC, Legion only used pieces of Shepard's body armour. As to it being Alec Ryder, the way Liara brushes the snow off the piece (the last little thumb movement), at least to me, says that it's Shepard she's looking for.
Question: how do they determine who got which ending because I lost access to my EA account years ago.
Simplest option that they've done in the past is the comic book style opening where you choose the options you want before you load into the first scene. They had this for ME2 and 3 if you didn't play the previous games.
Discovering your channel with this video. What blew me away the most on that page, is learning that Shepard is alive in Destroy. Officially, that is. 🤯
I mean... Shep isn't the only N7 soldier in the galaxy. Because of it, I've always thought that this gasp from the N7 soldier at the end of ME3, wasn't Shepard. Always assumed Shep dies in every endings. That this gasp was just put there to trick people, make them think this could be Shep, when in reality, it isn't. Perhaps, maybe it could've ended up being revealed as this N7 person gasping, is in fact the protagonist from the next game ( who was fighting on a planet, and got thrown to the floor due to the blast of an explosion ) . Something that we would've discovered while playing the next game, and not from the start ( or even trailers or anything ) .
All these years, being convinced it wasn't Shepard, and that they were just tricking us into thinking it is, thrown out the window. Oh well...
As for "Why does Shep have to die" . I'd say it has more to do with Bioware's way of imagining the franchise, rather than having any valid reason from a story-telling perspective. For me, it's just that they had said from the start ( ME1 ) that Shep's story would be a trilogy. So, no matter how it ended, ME3 was meant to be the definitive end for Shep's story. What best way to be sure to put an end to Shep's story, than to kill him/her ?... Problem is, that only works on paper, because of ME2's opening... 😅
Unless... Shep is disintegrated ( which is conveniently what we can see being the case in 2 out of 4 endings ) , I mean, that sounds to me like this is something even Cerberus wouldn't be able to fix, since there's nothing left of the body.
As for the 3rd ending. They could've said that the blast was so strong, obviously the body got disintegrated in the blast ( who could possibly not be disintegrated with such a blast ?... ) .
Which would've circled back to my theory of the N7 soldier gasping at the end, not being Shepard. That theory of Shep being dead in the 3 endings sounded like the most logical to me because of it.
For me, the reason Shep had to die, is because Bioware wanted Shep's story to be a trilogy, and nothing more. No future new stories with Shep. Moving on with a different protagonist. So, to ensure nobody would keep writing stories with Shep in the future ( once the ones who took that decision wouldn't be working at Bioware anymore ) , they had to kill him/her. For good this time ( meaning, in a way that nobody would ever be able to bring Shep back. Body disintegrated, nothing left of the body, problem solved, Shep can't ever come back anymore ) . Simple as that.
As far as the 4th ending, well... Sadly, that's the ending I always pick, as that's the only one that I find logical from a story-telling perspective, and therefore the only one I consider to be canon.
I like the idea that, the Council not believing Shep during 2 whole games about the invasion, brushing it off, caused the galaxy to not be ready to face it.
Had they believed Shep from the start, they would've had a chance of winning thanks to the Protheans. But, all that time wasted, caused the galaxy to not be prepared enough, and they all got "reaper-ified" ( as I like to say it ) because of it. Sure they had all the tools to survive it, but, way too much time was wasted at not getting ready for it. ( From a technical perspective, I pick refusal, but play it as if, just like the Protheans, they didn't have enough time to build the Crucible. Hopefully, Liara's beacon gives the next races a chance, and their governments will believe the Shepard of their time early enough to finish it, this time ) .
Makes Liara's beacon much more meaningful. And also, makes the Andromeda initiative much stronger from a story-telling perspective, since they're far away from their galaxy, and when they wake up, their entire galaxy has been "reaper-ified" , and they have no way to know about it, no way to know how things ended ( which was solving the issue of having to handle the different endings of ME3, so that was perfect ) . Far from their homeworlds, these people are the last hope of survival of their species, and they don't even know the weight that is on their shoulders. Gives a whole new impact, much bigger, to the Andromeda initiative.
Sadly for me, they picked "defeat the reapers" as cannon, which ruins what I've always considered to be the "perfect ending" ( from a story-telling perspective, that is, as it makes everything way more logical and impactful, than being able to defeat them ) .
Also, I wanna say I hadn't thought about the possibility of an alternate universe, but, I hope that won't be the case. 🤞
It feels like every single SF fiction has been doing it in movies and TV shows for quite some years now. Can't they have new creative ideas rather than always going to that one ? 'Cause it's getting boring. It's like "Meh, we don't know how to solve situations we've caused, or bring back characters we've killed previously, let's just play the alternate universe card and then it's free real estate 😃" . Ugh... Not again, please. It was cool the first few times, but it's starting to be ridiculous and lazy.
Anyway, cool video. Can't wait for your next video to hear about your new theory.
I like your idea about that N7 in the rubble being the new protagonist who also fought in London. Got inspired by seeing Shepard in action and after learning what sacrifice s/he made for the galaxy the new protag decided to carry on the Commander's legacy.
I don't mind that Shepard has to die at the end because it's the ruthless calculus of war. S/he had to make sacrifices throughout the whole journey and now the hero reached the point where s/he has to make an ultimate sacrifice. Can you make it? You or the galaxy.
I'm a little disappointed that s/he can survive the destroy ending. If you sacrifice yourself you get the opportunity to shape the galaxy in a way you think is the best (destroy, control, synthesis). But if you're unable to make the sacrifice you've lost the opportunity to leave your mark on the universe. You can only do what you did until this point. Fight.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m About point number 1: That alone, wouldn't mean it IS Shep though. As it very well could've been done intentionally to trick people into thinking it's Shep, when it's not. That point alone, isn't proof it is Shep.
About point number 2: As someone who plays on console, I didn't knew about that. Had never heard of it neither. If that's the case, then yeah, it could hint at being Shepard. But, that too, wouldn't be 100% guaranteed neither. I mean... The devs know some people likes digging in the game files, so, they could've put that name to the file just to trick people too. Just because they gave that name to the file, doesn't guarantee it's Shep. It's just a file name, in the end ( which they could've named "Jenkins alive" too for example, if they wanted to ) . Unless we actually see the character's face, we can't be sure it actually is that character. Could be a trick to keep the surprise for future games intact.
About point number 3: Ah... That one confirms Shep being alive a lot more then. Well, unless the devs lied to keep the surprise intact for future games. But, that seems unlikely. Because I highly doubt they had any idea what the story or characters of the next game(s) would be at that time ( 2012 ) . So, there would've been no point in lying to keep the secret about a future plot twist intact, knowing they had no idea of what they would do next, yet. That one seems like a much more valid point. Even though, considering there's probably few people remembering them saying this ( maybe I had heard about this back then myself, but simply don't remember it ) , they could go back on it and use what I've said about points 1 and 2 to justify that, in fact, it wasn't Shep. But, yeah, that seems very unlikely if they did confirm it's Shep, when they had no intentions to use a lie to protect a future plot twist at the time.
About the 4th ending. Yes. I do know about that, which saddens me. Doesn't change the fact that, for me, it's the only ending who actually makes sense. Can't expect to defeat the Reapers, when the galaxy starts building the Crucible so late. Too much time has been wasted sweeping Shep's claims under the rug to succeed. Once the Council realizes Shep was right, as soon as the attack starts on Earth, it should be too late to stop Reapers. They're already here, and way too powerful to be stopped.
Considering how much time was lost, we shouldn't have the choice in the first place. It should be automatically too late ( there should be only ending 4, endings 1 to 3 should've never existed, for me ) .
The way I see it, is that it has always been what the trilogy was saying to the player.
We learn about the Reapers, but the Council doesn't believe Shep, because of that, they don't get prepared for it. Vigil tells us about the Citadel being a relay, but because the Council hadn't believed us about the Reapers, they got taken by surprise when Saren and Sovereign arrived to open the relay, the same way Protheans were taken by surprise back then. Luckily, Shep being aware about it, was able to be fast enough to stop it. Buying us time to prepare for the invasion.
But the Council still doesn't believe how real this is, and swipe it under the rug once more, causing this time that Shep gained by defeating Sovereign to go to waste because no one is getting prepared for the invasion.
Then, in Arrival, Shep once again saves everyone ( at the price of many Butarian's lives ) and buy some time. But, once again, it goes to waste as still nobody believes Shep nor gets ready for the invasion.
Finally, in ME3, as Javik's story shows, once the Reapers are here, it's too late. There's no stopping them anymore. All we can do, is to leave behind us enough intel to help the species from the next cycle. The same way the Protheans did, by creating Vigil and the beacon on Eden Prime to warn us, as well as leaving the plans for a device to defeat them in hopes the next cycle will succeed at building it. Then go into stasis and hope to survive into in the next cycle, the same way Javik and the scientists on Ilos did.
Our cycle found the plans, understood how to build the device ( which is one of the way we're helping for the next cycle ) , but it was too late. And, why was it too late ? Because our government ( the Council ) didn't believe in the threat and hadn't prepared the galaxy accordingly. Which is what Liara's beacon is for. Being the Vigil of our cycle. Tell the next cycle about the Citadel being a relay and how to shut it off, giving them the plans of the Crucible with all the instructions on how to build it, and most importantly, tell the next cycle something like "Do not make the same mistake than we did. Do no waste time not believing in this threat, because, we learned the hard way how very real it was" . All of that combined would've been what helps the next cycle to defeat the Reapers, this time. 'Cause we couldn't due to how much time had been wasted.
That's the way it should have ended, imho. It wasn't about defeating them, but, about courageously continuing to fight no matter what, so we can give the next cycle everything they would need to defeat them. That's the way I've always seen it, at least. The Protheans gave us a warning about the invasion as well as the plans for the Crucible. We're giving the next cycle intel about how to build the Crucible, as well as the wisdom of not doubting how real that threat is, and start preparing from the start, unlike our cycle did.
Just because it's the least picked and/or liked ending ( which, I can understand why, as people always wants a happy ending ) , doesn't mean it's not the one who is the most logical from a story-telling point of view.
"What blew me away the most on that page, is learning that Shepard is alive in Destroy"
"Shep isn't the only N7 soldier in the galaxy. Because of it, I've always thought that this gasp from the N7 soldier at the end of ME3, wasn't Shepard"
What evidence on the channel convinced you otherwise? I also was wondering about that for a short period, but it's really much simpler than that. The clip playing in the end depends on Shepard's gender chosen by you. Also, in game files these two clips are called: "End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik" and "End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik". That was more than enough for me and sorted things out immediately
So will there be an option to choose the ME3 ending players got?, or will the new game load ME3 save instead? having such different gameplay is a bit confusing... I intend to play the trilogy and andromeda again as I want to see if what I am thinking will make sense or not....
I think we'll load our Legendary Edition save, or have a menu to select the options we want carried in.
There is a "build your previous playthroughs" for your ME playthroughs online that was shipped with Andromeda, in the same way the Dragon Age Keep does for DA2/DAO. It was never properly implemented, but I imagine it will be for ME5.
It was expected that there’d be no multiverse in the next game
Can you make a video ranking Shepard's strongest squad mates want to know your opinion.
Also what if in the next mass effect game you could start the game with a new protagonist or with Shepard, everybody wins. You can start with a completely new protagonist or continue with Shepard.
I'd love to do a strongest squad mates ranking, not sure if I've been varied enough in my choices, but regardless should be fun! I'll add it to my backlog of videos, or even cover it in the livestream next week. 👍
The problem with having two different protagonists is the changes in the dialogue. In Andromeda with Sara/Scott, the dialogue was basically the same in all cases. But imagining Shepard talking to Liara vs. a new protagonist...the writers would have to write multiple versions of the same conversation to the nth degree. Which is why I think it's just going to be Shepard again.
It's also just a piece of armor that is found.
Schrödinger’s Shepherd
2 things keep bothering me every time I'm in Mass Effect geek out/hype mode.
1.) The tweet on 'N7 day' that Gamble put out that said "look closely :)" with the trailer attached. I feel like there is still something big there that we are missing, and I hate it, lol
2.) The other tweet he (Michael Gamble) put out that said, "If only they knew where we were going" that could be so many places, but I keep trying to narrow it down, like - what planets (in the milky way at least) could it be? It would (almost) have to be an unexpected and barely hanging on planet after the reaper war, right (i.e. Thessia)? Rannoch was struggling with the sun, so could that be where we are going? What if Gamble is teasing a trip to Protheamon? Shepard to Andromeda? What if it's a hint from a movie/book/show/song that could guide us in the right direction? I might be reading way more into those specific tweets, but those are the ones that live in my head rent-free the most, lol
Everything Gamble says on Twitter lives rent-free in my head. 🙃
It was always an interesting theory but then it takes away some amount 'agency ' (similar to how the two-part End Game did with Marvel) of what we enjoyed.. Struggled over with choices.
Press the "just reset " button.
Either way, if ME5's not done correctly, it'll be the worst parts Anthem, Andromeda x 3 because lore broken and Bioware probably sold off for scraps.
I don't mind what they do, (mainly) but they've gotta expand, have great writing, visuals and combat improvements... Not only for us, they owe it to the originals, the old Bioware team themselves also
Knuckles. You doin good.
But like... what if all endings still require Liara to get the other Shepard and perfect destroy just give you an extra scene in the beginning of the next game where they're transferring old Shep's memories/ soul to new shep before they succumb to their injuries and that saves you from doing a bunch of time consuming fetch quests to restore new Shep's memories.... like a continued reward for doing all the war asset leg work...
I LOVE this channel.
I have the same n7 banner hanging up
Did you consider the possibility of Shep's child.
That wouldn’t work because not everyone romanced Liara thus Shepard never “impregnated” her in various playthroughs
I just finished legendary (again) and I noticed that they removed the illusive mans cut scene where he takes control of the reapers. I started wondering about that… not sure why they would do that… did they do it so that the players didnt feel like they supported cerberus with control ending ? Just so weird.. maybe control ending is the way into the next game, because the geth are alive and no green eyes so far… Anyways why would there be reapers on that planet where shepard died in me2, what are they doing on a planet with no life? What if they are alive/active and just waiting for liara to arrive (as allies).
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m ammonia and methane, She is not able to breath there 😊 No idea why they failed to include a mask of sorts in the teaser.
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I'm glad they're not going to be messing with the multiverse. I still think indoctrination thoery is the best ending idea. The final battle was a battle of wills on whether we fell to indoctrination or not. This also leaves a more open ending to allow previous decisions to matter, be able to proceed in the milky way galaxy, and bring your Shepherd back.
u the best!
Damn there goes my hope of a Mass Effect and Dead Space crossover
Was Dead Space even made by BioWare or EA?
Or his body was recreated making him somewhat a hybrid and he has been in hibernating only the events of five.
Let's be honest, that theory never made sense.
Still keeping most of its main points in the new theory though. :)
@@paragonseven I think I just figured out how we would be able to get to dark space using a possible rebuilt relay. Isn’t the Citadel a mass relay to dark space which isn’t that kind of a hop skip and a jump to the Andromeda galaxy? Could the relay portion be rebuilt in an effort toto connect to dark space?
@@samuelchambers4036 Dang good point. Definitely something the ME team could play with, although I'm not sure the distance of dark space to Andromeda. It'd definitely shorten the time to reach there though!
@@paragonseven in andromeda they had to go through several relays to leave the Milky Way. Which leads me to another conclusion. What if the relay they are building is part of a new network to slingshot us to andromeda in order to build a relay there. It would allow travel back and forth. Something we couldn’t do until we killed the reapers and learned how they built the relays.
@@samuelchambers4036 Sure, why not? The new human-built relay is very confusing, especially its purpose...I honestly can't rule out anything about where it leads at this point.
Maybe Liara picking up the n7 insignia is a metaphor that the writers are continuing with Shepards story
Also considered this, but Gamble has hinted waay too much on Twitter that everything in the trailer has meaning.
They could bridge the dark energy stories and dark matter stories between the Milky Way And Andromeda to explain time travel. Then, they could go back and 'grab' Shep, regardless of end choices in in ME3. Need a Shep, grab a Shep.
It would tie in the dark energy plot of the ME trilogy and the dark matter plot (the scourge) from Andromeda.
I don't expect this, but it would take care of many issues.
Need a Shep, grab a Shep though 😂 I'm reluctant to believe in time travel cause it'd essentially mess up the future timeline when you hop back. E.g. if you bring Shepard back from when they first died, they wouldn't have stopped the Collectors, so when you return to the future, the world could be without humans cause they all got harvested.
Granted, my explanations for how Shep is gonna come back are unhinged, so who knows?
@@paragonsevenBecause it would fit the lore and close holes that have yet to be resolved. The better question is why not.
Thank god
Maybe Shepard died naturally, and Liara has found a new a threat and needs the Galaxies greatest war hero to return. She decides to travel to Alchera and recover some form of DNA sample then we see her pick up a piece of N7 armor and smile. We need more info from Bioware.
I've never understood the reasoning of needing to go to a planet where Shepard previously died for DNA when the Normandy has plenty of DNA samples hanging around.
Heck, Dr. Chakwas probably has DNA readings on everyone already. So I can't really get behind this particular theory.
The thing is that the Alchera DNA is pure, no Cerberus modifications.@@paragonseven
Why would she do that when she has Shepard’s old N7 armor on display in her apartment?
@@axelnilsson5124 Any DNA on that armor would be so old and deteriorated. The DNA she would find from the Normandy crash site would be perfectly preserved because of the frozen state it would be in.
I think narratively destroy is the best ending to continue the series from. Although control could work too. Either way IMO their should be a retcon about why the reapers were doing what they did. Basically just bring back the Dark matter plot line and rip off Xeelee Sequence.
just wait, they'll surprise us with something silly like making the ending that shepard was indoctrinated, none of the endings were real and someone else defeated the reapers lol
I always choose Control because I want the blue (paragon) ending.
Stop Hiring FOX MULDER! Just keep him on speed dial. It saves you money. 😁 That aside, it's a great video.
Have to say it's refreshing to see players like Paragon making new theories and revising old ones instead of throwing out a bunch of useless questions out of spite. 😅
Bioware might be trying to return to form here, and we won't know until the new game releases
Revising and refining theories are a must! Sticking with something that doesn't work based on the evidence at hand isn't the way I like to theorize.
thank god w, multiverse, well the mainstream version of it, has abused to hell. we all saw how that played out in recent times with the entertainment. main thing for me is giving us a great well written story. but for the sake of the topics in the vid, for some weird things to happen, they can always play around meridian from MEA, confirmed both galaxies will converge. meridian, a dyson sphere like structure that houses untold levels of energy can be used in said plot, of the convergence. add to that the scourge and we can have it as the so called over arching plot/antagonistic force. hope they could be influenced by the expanse books/show, no spoilers but basically make the scourge or whatever entity it is, be somewhat akin to the protomolecule.
Hell yes!
Well that kinda sucks. I mean I see why they wouldn’t do it but it would be still been cool to see what ifs
Even though the point might not be a multiverse, I do think aspects of the theory might still apply. Stay tuned for the teaser trailer breakdown 2.0. 👀
Honestly, I wish Shepard’s story was done. Dead or not, the series - and fans - need to move on; I don’t want my dead Shepard resurrected, nor do I want someone else’s brought back to 100%, all because apparently nobody in the ME universe can “do what Shepard does”.
Let’s let Shepard rest, because they earned that.
They tried. It bombed. Mass Effect is Shepard's story and I think many fans agree. The best way to save the franchise is Shepard's return. That's the only trick up their sleeve that can save Mass Effect after the Andromeda fiasco.
My perfect ending is perfect destroy. Shepherd lives I put too much into that to let femshep die. Reapers are guaranteed dead end of story and its just picking up the pieces and rebuilding. Also I left a theory awhile ago that you liked about an arms race possibly happening. When the races picking up the pieces of Reaper technology to rebuild thier ships and armies. But I would another theory operation paperclip but it's mass effect with all those Cerberus scientists, doctors, engineers etc. Look it up ww2 if your dont know. We already saw this In 3 with Jacob, Miranda, Dr archer, Dr Bryn Cole and those Cerberus scientists you save.
I wish I could get excited about ME5. ME was my favorite franchise, and up until 2012, I would play it at least once a year. Sadly, with the shitty end of ME3, the disaster of Andromeda, and EA being absolute garbage - I have zero hope that this will be at all good.
You know… COULD be multiverse… OR… Shepard did have a clone. It’s possible the clone didn’t die. It’s possible the clone survived and has been wandering the Galaxy thinking about what made the real Shepard so great: they have the same training and everything. It wouldn’t need a multiverse for that.
But then there was no reason for reapers to land, or fight on Alchera. There were no beings there to reap!
no instagram?
Nah, if I added another social media platform, I'd lose the remaining chill time I have during the day. 🥲
i hear you @@paragonseven
Time travel and/or multiverese is a bad fit for Mass Effect IMO, it's too overdeterminate and I generally prefer a single conceit of history in speculative fiction
I get why people would want it because people want to see the results of the each potential narrative to play out which is a big if not main appeal to the franchise itself.
I came up with a few ideas that allow me to have my cake and eat it too with respect to that, so I'm excited to see what you come up with.
While my opinion for the ME:A here is kinda off topic, here it is. That fan art with the ME:A race in it, i think it is not so much Bioware combining both galaxies, but just stating that ME:A will be part of cannon and the whole Milky Way will know that thousands of people left/ran away. Now they could than condemn them for it or just act like yeah i could see doing it with how everything appeared to be going. It also would give Bioware a way to give an overall picture of how long the war lasted. You can't just build massive ships in mere weeks, not sure if that was ever hinted at. Another way for Bioware to expand on the original trilogy. Also, SHEPARD MUST LIVE AND BE THE MAIN PLAYABLE CHARACTER OR I'M DONE WITH BIOWARE! Bioware screwed us all over with the crappy trilogy endings and with that crap with ME:A so no more chances from me. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!
Its pronounced Geoff "Kee-Lee". Love you bye.
Appreciate it, pronouncing names is definitely not my strong suit. 🙃
Please stop calling it Mass Effect 5. It's no more Mass Effect 5 than GTA: Vice City was GTA 4. Andromeda was a spin-off, not a sequel.
BioWare is the one calling it Mass Effect 5. She's using the correct naming according to the actual devs.
The Mass Effect team released a concept art piece on N7 day 2022 for the next game which had a hidden hint on one of the buildings that said SFX-5. In the BioWare: 25 years book, it's revealed that SFX is the codename used in the early days of Mass Effect. So, I assume they're hinting at the next title being Mass Effect 5.