Zen 5 vs Arrow Lake CPUs - Specs, Price, & Release Dates
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Zen 5 vs Arrow Lake CPUs - Specs, Price, & Release Dates
AMD's Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 CPUs including the 9950X, 9900X, 9700X, and 9600X will be launching this year bringing anywhere from 10-40% more performance if leaks are to be believed. At the same time Intel will be releasing a major architecture update with their 15th gen Arrow Lake CPUs going by Core Ultra 200 now. This series of processors should include the Intel Core Ultra 285K, 265K, and 245K and also release this year with major IPC improvements. The only question is, which one should you buy, and who will have the fastest CPU in 2024?
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Dude always starts his vids like we just caught him doing blow off his desk 😆 🤣
🤣😂
Maybe he is...
Pulling his head out of his ass.
@@Max-fw3qywith that stache…definitely is 🤣
Dial back the excitement ha ha
So here are compelling reasons to get an AMD upgrade
1. You already have an AM5 system
2. Power Efficiency
3. X3D chips
4. No PL2 issues
The reality is we are at the point where performance per watt is the main deal. I have a backlog of games so much that the only reason I upgrade is to lower my power consumption at this point.
I can tell you that even the flagship processors are not fully keeping up with a 4090 in certain situations... Also, in the professional space we BADLY need more PCIE lanes
@@user-tc4tz8ww1z maybe a threadripper for professional use?
💯 same 👍🏻
5800X3D max uv & max UV 4090 here 😂🙌🏻
my money is still betting on the 9800X3D being the gaming champ again. i also wouldnt trust a new chip/gen, and their motherboards etc
No need to upgrade motherboard for the am5 chip 9000 series this is AMD not intel garbage which ask you to buy new motherboard with there series each year
@@wblebonit depends on what are you building I went am5 last year
@TheZerosd same happier then ever gonna skip the 9000 series as not a huge gain from the 7800x3d chip in my opinion
@@wblebon try reading again. Was obvious toward Intel
Don't be mistaken 7950X3D performs slightly better then 7800X3D and 9950X3D will have 3d v cache on both CCDs, thus it will become the gaming cpu champion 🏆 to beat the 15900KS.
Intel will have to prove performance and reviewers will need to validate settings.
I lost my trust with Intel.
I don't know why but I feel like this is karma for Intel..
For generations they have been making shitty processors with barely any improvement and priced more and more. Now Intel is in a sht position where their processors are not reliable and if they are it's just a matter of time when they aren't. They have been fooling us for so damm long now since Lisa Su stepped in for AMD everything about AMD has changed and improved so much to the points Intel is behind. They're so desperate that they opened new FABS and due to that the 15th gen will be hella expensive (as they need to increase prices to cover the costs) only the top products will be good anything mid-low tier are a waste. Intel will try to buy other company to cheat their scores from benchmarks to make them look good that's how dirty Intel is no wonder Jim Keller and Raja Koduri left Intel they lost trust in them and they know AMD's CPU are now the best in notebooks/mobile/datacenter/server/handheld/console and soon also desktop, but Intel is soo desperate that they need help and Nvidia has decided to help Intel
@winnb4968 you are drinking too much Kool-aid
Don't expect too much of this Intel Ultra CPUs, they already launched in laptops and they are pretty meh.
@@cemsengul16 Why. Amd has done some shit too
Definitely heading over to AMD this generation.
The 7800X3D has been a monster for me.
Upgraded from a second hand 2700x and 2x8gb to 4x8gb and 5800x3d on the same board. The upgrade was freaking immense with barely changing anything. I'm GPU bound with my RX6800 in almost every imaginable scenario.
The 9800X3D will bottleneck any GPU for a while at least in gaming, I imagine.
I haven't found a reason to go intel for a good 4 - 5 years now. AMD is as fast or faster with half the power and heat.
if they price it higher than every intel cpu i'd go for cheaper 7800x3d
If AMD can keep its processor air cooled frendly amd will win but if not ibtel will take over
5090 + 9800X3D for me
That is my goal as well
Idk...I feel 9950X3D might be a bit weak to pair with a 5090...but I guess it'll depend on the resolution of your monitor.
Yeah me too if the 5090 has display port 2.1
I went from i7-2600 to Ryzen 5600. Back then I liked the top cpu but back then they cost a lot less. I do tend to do long with my systems.
May pick up a very cheap 7900(X)/X3D and then much later a 9900(X)/X3D to extend life if the 9900 cost too much to my liking.
8900 XTX + 9800X3D
It's neat that 5 Ghz plus is becoming normal. All those years of overclocking where 5Ghz was seen as the holy grail seem quaint now.
Overclocking doesn’t do much nowadays. It’s better to do a -30 PBO curve on AMD or standard undervolting for way better thermal performance and efficiency.
Yeah like we have stock 6.2GHz nowadays LoL
I dont know for now amd cpus look more reliable
They have been since 2018.
The PL2 stuff has been an issue since the 9900k. Intel is now incapable of telling the public if the Power limit should be 188, 253, or unlimited "if your board supports it".
After blaming board partners for causing instability and degrading.
@@skorpers And those are the core truths.
Understatement!
Amd just for the the chipset support on motherboard lasting till at least 2026
The fact that Intel is abandoning hyperthreading intrigues me greatly... In terms of performance and latency, either in games or even in productivity... If Intel wins, it will only be to our advantage : AMD's reaction could be interesting in terms of price and future processor. It's interesting to see both Intel and AMD moving their asses.
If only they could do the same for graphics cards. I'm really curious to see the evolution in 5 years of the CG and processor market even if I have the impression that Intel will no longer be on the CG side.
I like your work, thank you and courage. Lots of work and little thanks. Thank you for your work.
SMT causes a lot of bugs and gettin rid of them cost performance. Makes sense to get rid of it.
They may go rentable cores. SMT but adding a small core to execute. It did sound interesting.
I just want 24 core cpu with 48 threads. Amd has done it before, they just need to do it for consumers CPU.
So this channel is now a rumor channel or was it always like this?
Also, this is even worst because he’s just repeating rumors other channels already mentioned.
So not bullshitting but rebullshitting.
ill have to be hopping on that Christmas Sale of 30% bro! its the perfect time for me to buy all of my Christmas gifts!
When and where does this take place please…?
Thanks.
If you buy gears in december, You will be sorry! The prices drop -15%-20% in february-march
intel abandoning hyperthreading is such a huge downgrade smh...
We will see in October if tech Jesus criticizes them.
A downgrade not really if u turn off hyperthreading on a lot of intel chips they perform better
@@gradystephenson3346 its a downgrade in multi-threading performance which is needed for content creators/software developers. Sure it might help make gaming performance(single threaded performance) better allowing you to push overclocks higher but not everyone only uses their PCs for gaming
intel's desktop chips just get whatever tech decisions they make for laptop chips. you get the hand-me-downs
9800X3D and RTX 5080 will prolly be a dream PC for me, match with alienware AW3225QF (or future similar display with DP2.1 input) display
My last Intel build was an i7- 6700k/1080ti. It lasted a long time. This time I went AM5. 7900x3d/4090oc.
I think you are wrong on a few points. The socket is bigger " LGA 1851" One of the biggest sockets ever. and they need to compete, so they will just turn off hyperthreading sure.... but add more P cores to make up the difference which in turn will drive up the power requirements, the socket itself also is kind of a dead give away having so many more pins. They need that bandwith and power so yeah good try though
Also, I suspect Intel will have better video rendering performance for things like AV1 decode and encode and also as much as its overused now AI acceleration. AMD fanboys be bugging lol All I hope is to see some good competitive back n forth with these companies over the years so we all get better products in the end.
all i want is a decent gpu at 250.... but thats not gonna happen not even at 2nd hand.... ngreedia is nerfing the shit out of vram and amd is not there with dlls....
I feel you, I'm still on my 1080ti I got for like 350 many years ago. Thinking about getting a 6900xt for 500 bucks to double my performance.
250 gets you a 6700xt I think, better card for 250 is hard to find I think, stay on 1080p if that's your budget. High refreshrate 1080p 👍
Intel Arc is now pretty decent after all the driver updates
30%+ IPC on the same node? Do you understand how wrong is that?
One will be out on time and on a new working smaller node from TMSC.. the other will be late, hot, use more power and be slower running on a not as good intel node. :) love intels naming on their new node.. hey guys lets call it 2nm haha
They now have 2 EUV nodes up and running, production has finally started for volume, I know because I've been involved with the vacuum electrical side of this project for the last 7 years,
well, intel's node has been more advanced than similarly named TSMC node so makes sense that they don't refer to real world values anymore. I would honestly be surprised if Intel cpu used less power than AMD one and if that is the case I don't think they would be ahead if both gained 25% performance. Intel bruteforced ahead of AMD:s X3D chips with insane power demand by pushing up to 300W to those chips, while for AMD it was impossible to go much over 120-170W spec because cache sitting on top of cpu core would burn up. it seems though that Intel chips didn't really like intel's plan and are now breaking up. Personally, I think intel cannot really cry about their partners going over the spec as they were happily watching those review benchmark been close or ahead of amd chips. If they had a problem with power values, they should have spoken then, not after users are noticing their CPU:s are malfunctioning months after the fact.
amd should be able to stage a laptop comeback with new chips and then own every mkt segment
The Bitcoin miners will snatch up all the 9950X processors before the rest of us can.
both are tied ....same performance and difference is vast when amd depend on intel x86 smt tech while intel went all pure 64bit only threading process is huge advantage for software and games execute code vs amd still relying outdated SMT that split the 64 bit to 32bit for memory address while executing 64bit code in lagging way that like all HT and SMT tech...all depend one thread at a time due the tech is not RISC. Intel know this well that SMT not gonna last forever when games are no longer accessing in comfort of 8gb vram instruction sets ....now they are asking 16gb to 24gb instructions to be process and copy to system ram in huge table size ....SMT barely can do 8gb at a time vs without -smt ...it can free its threads from waiting instruction to be process that can go up to 64gb table without wait...more the cores the better for threads can process in parallel same time...first time intel using paralleling threads not serial threads
They will end up being very close. Intel really needs a win and answer for the 3D V-Cache chips to stay competitive in the gaming market.
Because intel is now moving to a new socket, the prices for the new motherboards are probably gonna be pretty bad compared to AM5 which has been getting very affordable lately.
Yeah that's what will likely happen. Unless intel absolutely decimates the amd processors in all aspects, I don't expect intel to run and sell large volume until 2-3 months after the release.
I have a feeling that AMD is going to massacre intel this generation. They will beat them in single vision but destroy them in multi-threaded applications.
I think the opposite will happen. Generals always fight the last war.
What, no more 400w max power draw cpu's from intel? sadge :(
"INTEL" Too expensive/hot/power consuming!
Soo glad my 12700k is somewhat reasonable power compared to 13th gen
Don't be sad just yet, it's predictions not facts, he took them from ass just as his head at the star of the vid.
@@winnb4968 Arrow lake changing all that
Am5 for the win. AMD has got it right with supporting this socket until at least 2025.
short time
This gen and 11000 then end
Underrated analysis, best graphs in the PC news space.
I know for sure that intel will always be a better value than AMD, even if it means dropping margins. Why? They sell 10x the amount that AMD does.
Specially for the mobile segment. Intel got more than 85% of TAM. (total available market)
there will be no CPU to be on par with 5090, it will always bottleneck.. CPU at least 1-2 generations behind in term of performance
Get an AMD Epyc, 96 Core... no bottleneck.
Wrong. EKG Delta TEC 2 Custom Water Loop cooled 14900KS or the AMD 7980X or 7995wx Threadripper PRO can easily run an RTX 5090! 96 5.50 GHZ with EKG 7995wx. With EKG Custom loop, proper direct to die and a proper delidding, 6.90 GHZ all core, and two performance cores can clock up to 7 GHZ with 14900KS
Modern video card = 16 pcie lanes. AM5 chip = 20 lanes. Entry level Threadripper cpu = a lot more lanes. Starting to make a lot of sense.
it's weird because 7000 series have 24+4 and he specifie 20+8 on the next series of motherboard.
With the current Intel instability issues, I wouldn't dive head first to a new, untested architecture. AM5 is looking to mature nicely and predictably.
If we get more juicers that aren't low wattage, powerful and good at idling. I'm just going to buy a AMD Ryzen 7 5700X and call it a day.
Aww man if only there were good games to play. Gaming clearly can’t keep up with all of the hardware we get.
Ditching my 4070 rig and going to a minty fresh APU for my gaming.
Some of the Zen 5 bits are obviously inaccurate. Like Zen 4 pcie lanes are already 24+4. Also too many people are misatributing the x3D issue with both CCDs not having the extra cache being the source of consistency issues. The issue was always a thing for dual CCDs CPUs in certain games because of game threads getting bumped to the opposite CCD that didnt have its cache populated, before X3D was a thing. More empty cache is still empty, which is why dual x3d didnt provide any benefit. The 7950X3D only trades about 8% performance in any other workload you would be considering a 16 core for vs the 7950x. It makes no sense to wish for a future iteration to give up more.
I miss the crisping feature of the i9 in the upcoming generation
big jump from 10nm to 2nm equivalent logic node size, ditching the useless hyperthreading, faster e cores, 8000mt/s ram sweet spot!! This could be very good
Just wait for x3d chips. They will absolutely smash intel in terms of gaming.
Intel, new chip socket means new motherboards. Need to wait and see, could be 6 months to work out the bugs.
Seems like Intel are starting to actually competing and being an actual choice over AMD next generation. Interesting.
😂😂😂😂
@@Manicmick3069 ?
He’s laughing at you because you’re already making a choice based off of a video listing nothing but rumors. That and the fact Intel’s latest chips are extremely unstable and you’re ready to go buy a new chip built in a brand new architecture that hasn’t been tested and no one knows anything about. Good luck fella.
Given Intel's recent issues and problems? I wouldn't touch them for even half the price. Ryzen 9000 is already cemented in for me. Only question is, which model? 9900X or 9950X?
Same brother.
ASRock, Gigabyte, MSI (not you ASUS, you're dead to me) get on making some 1DPC/two slot memory motherboards for X870E, stat.
this guy is too much
he totally changed his intro
meaning the way he starts his videos
he also changed his look or appeareance
the whole thing went from
elvis intro to pancho villa with the moustache
😁😂😭
👍🏻
Why do reviewers have to keep pretending anything Intel launches is exciting or relevant?
I feel like he is a Radio DJ in the Capitol Wasteland.
The whole premise of Intel having lower latency because of monolithic design is as flawed as it gets. First of all p cores and e cores are on separate tiles. Second is that latency is directly related to cache speed and since that node looks like immature thus they need to lower core speed doesn't sound like all of sudden gonna have faster cache.
Then another out of hat assumption that Intel gonna have lower TDP. They drop HT and lower cpu clocks because because the node is so awesome they now want a perf per wat win? Hahaha, sure do.
My 7950x has 24 pcie 5 lanes direct to the CPU. Some x670e boards were designed for that. I don't think they can lower the direct cpu lanes in the 9950x.
9950X might also be the same if not I expect 28 lanes
I’m on a 9900k. But I know zen 5 is gonna be monstrous
I spilled a smoothie into my pc the other day. Only fatality so far is the ram. Safe to say I'm watching the market for a new build this year...
RIP 3080
I do not understand, who ever buys an intel CPU. AM5 has a better and lonnger term support, sso with a decent board the users do not have to replace their MOBO, just replace the CPU in it. And I am sure, that this time around will all 7000 CPUs be cheaper and then much more poeple will buy them with AM5 MOBOs. What is important, the PCI-E 5.0 support and VRM cooling. I on my side would only buy a Gigabyte board. I see, that even at AM4 they still have a very good support and very few HW defect.
I'm very excited for Intel A20, A18 and beyond.
It seems the blue giant is finally waking up and is coming with a vengeance. I hope Intel continued their GPU card line as well. We need more options, especially in the GPU side as Nvidia prices are going sky high.
In a few years, I could see Intel competing in the top tier GPU category.
Well be getting the ultra 9 285k when released
same
For gaming, people should wait for the X3D versions of the AMD CPUs and they will again destroy Intel Arrow Lake. Let's just pray Intel will not overcloock the new CPUs out of stability out of the box this time and show they can be solid CPUs.
Hello. Can you help me? I need a pc for Professional Content Creation/RUclipsr (Mostly videos for RUclips & TikTok). I do mostly video editing, Premiere 45%, mostly 1440p but may do 4k for some clients) and play (mostly Fortnite 40%, no need 4k for this game, higher frames the better, may need 4k for other games) and do design (illustrator and Photoshop 15%). I will be always record when playing and may stream sometimes. I know intel is better for Premiere but I want to go AMD route for various reasons.
Is the 4080 super with 7950x3D the best option for my use case? Or should I wait for the uncoming cpus?
How much value will you get out of the time between now and these releases with and without a computer?
Well just wait to end of year and you will get rtx 5090 or 5080 with ryzen 9950x3d will be insane performance over that you point out
I am gamer doing basic video editing and have rx 6950xt with 5800X3D I am happy with it, was thinking about 7800x3d but decided to wait.
Great....another rat kid RUclipsr streaming Dorknite
Intel is better for workstation use
change your name to "mentally challanged"
Gen 13 and 14 were pretty much jokes in front of gen 12 so amd is easily gonna keep the lead if it goes forward...
Just when you thought Intel's Naming scheme couldn't get any worse they go and call it "CORE ULTRA 9 285K" It better be good I swear! I doubt You couldn't get any worse Intel....... That's not a challenge BTW.
I think they're gonna be the same but the power draw on intel is gonna be lower. The whole point of this rebrand and new tiling design is about to get lower design costs / power draw, if intel doesn't meet that goal Ryzen would be the best choice
So, we claim intel will HALVE power usage while keeping single clock at stupidly high ?
that sounds like assumption they changed everything, and it will work from the start.
IMHO we are 2 gens away from that, first with significant shift will most likely have speed regressions in MT, and most likely st as well, but power draw will be ok (finally).
then next gen will give them 15-20% on both st and mt.
Im going to be happy if 9000 series are on par with 7000 x3d for gaming perf.
All I wanted is a good all rounder CPU that can do both gaming and work, and with a good thermals and power consumption, especially during idle/low workload.
Elec bill is one thing, but having your CPU hitting high temps most of the time wouldnt be good in the long run.
I hope AMD can delivers, or maybe Intel going to pick up their pace. We'll see soon.
Lets go INTEL!!!
I been Ryzen since 1st gen (I pre ordered a 1700x and X370 Crosshair Hero), upgraded to 3900X and then to my current 5900X. Not gonna lie, I’d love to see Intel with similar power draw and performance with Ryzen.
I’ll never go Intel as long as they keep using insane amounts of power cos I live in UK with insane power costs.
Actually hoping that r5 8500F is going to be a good upgrade from r5 3600
Looking forward to a more efficient CPU that runs cooler. Only time will tell.
I was thinking about going to intel for my next build. Looks like I'm going to now.
Absolutely, I need the PCIe lanes !
Instead, you should probably wait for both products to come out and compare their reviews.
I am happy with my 9900k and 5900x system, no plan to upgrade at all
They should also increase the pcie lanes a bit like 25 at least instead of the 20
too easy for AMD tbh
All I want is to play GTA 6 with 90 fps or higher, do you think these will help
5080 9800x3d
Does new socket type require a new AIO cooling system?
Do you really think Zen5 is going to change the number of PCIe lanes?
I5 245F and arc B760 going to beat the R5 9500 and a RX 8600?
Intels bios is going to be a little bit better??🤔 yeah i don't think so.. To be honest i dont see intel doing so well this time around the 285k or whatever they really name it is going to pull to much power again so that can compete against the 9950X3d or 9800X3D the next-gen Ryzen cpu's are looking way better then what you are calming as every leak that has been reported has said intel maybe in trouble this time around as there has been reports of 40-50% in the new Ryzen cpus, as well as other leaks of AMD have it's own big.little really hope intel has a good cpu to compete i truly do. But you sound like a intel shell trying to hype them up and not talking about all the leaked info out there.
Well, considering that the 13th & 14th generation of Intel i9 has a near 95% failure rate when it comes to stability- be a smart consumer and stick with an AMD build..
I do not believe that intel will make there next generation energy effectively like ryzen 9000s.
Performance from intel may pass non x3d CPUs for gaming but will not pass 9800x3d.
5090 arrowlake waiting
my guess 9% average
Should i wait for the x3d versions or get them as they lunch since its alr a big preformence leap even without x3d (i will probably pair it with a 5080)
You could get a new one and sell it when the new x3d comes out. Otherwise just wait if you don't want to through the hassle. You're going to want an x3d when it comes out regardless
@@RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW should i just buy a 7800 x3d? Its prices would lower
@@izak.barnesthe question is do you need a 7800x3d right now? Do you have to play the lastest AAA games while you have dozens of backlogs?
@@suparibhau ill get it for work and aaa games but when the new stuff drops
As always, waiting until q4.. because you'll need a car payment loan for the higher prices and lower interest rates of Q4... Welcome to your $3000 desktop upgrades... btw start picking 3 levels of socket 18xx boards to review and see pricing on...
Arroh yeah this is gonna be awesome!
Hope he doesn’t break his neck one day
Ryzen 9000 will be on 4nm, with the IOD @6nm.
Consider this information just came out and it's already wrong on some things.
Im debating goin 7950x3d or waiting for the new gen. Have 12600k with a 4090 right now
If youre just playing games get 7800x3d or just wait. If you need productivity then get 7950x3d.
Lol... i have exatly that, 12600k and 4090.
Since I play 4k res decided not spend money on CPU for now.
After 13 / 14th are problematic i wait a year because its new technology. my 7800x3d serves mi till then (First AMD chip for me)
Did you get shadow banned or something, why are the views so low!
He's hard to watch, man.. this guy is way to over dramatic in expression.
Are you blind. He makes up a lot of theories now with WHAT IF events with no evidence most times or random twitter posts as evidence, then makes detailed vids on it like it is real.
700$ oo şeeet
What’s the point when there will be no 5090s released this year?
I hope this is a joke.
Because idk
Who else's waiting to see i9-15900K VS 9800X3D?
hope intel new socket not bent again
fucking large video boooring
AMD 👍
Intel may be close but at 3x the power 😂
They seriously need to think less about benchmark numbers and more on actual stability and how long the product lasts for before needing to be replaced for a new chipset.
Not 3x, more like 1.5x-2x, but that's also still massive lol. Arrow lake is expceted to bring a massive efficiency uplift like meteor lake, but we can only wait and see...
@@JynxedKoma definitely. Been saying that for ages. But all they care is market buzzwords like “best gaming CPU” etc etc, doesn’t matter if it has instability issues due to immense power consumption
Bro, can you get me a flagship PC?
while amd gonna be all alone with outdated flaw intel SMT open door malware when nobody is using it since IBM abandon entirely of smt-4 was terrible idea for cooling methods ...that requires nitrogen cooler...its huge risk for folks want to download games from steam and sharing data to helldivers 2 servers ...chinese already crack the SMT code now...good luck users
Am I the only person that gives 0 f*cks about power draw?
I certainly care about having a silent PC
Some people care about it because of cooling. My 7800X3D is an extremely low draw so it always stays cool. I have my Merc 310 7900XTX overclocked but it's got such a good cooler that at roughly 450w it doesn't get hot even running Gray Zone Warfare at 4K Epic settings. If cooling was an issue, I'm sure I'd appreciate a low power draw more.
Prob don't pay electricity bill
Not at all. Lots of morons out there don't care how much wattage they waste, and heat they generate.
It's not just about the cost of the electric bill. I have no problem paying for my electricity but I am sick of the heat my 14900k and 4090 rig dumps out into my room.