We got 2 guys in the NBA top five in Steals (SGA and Caruso), + The Dorture Chamber, + JDub with a 7'2" wingspan... We will have a record number of deflected passes and steals. Perimeter D is going to be insane. And even if you get past that, you have Chet and IHart (in 6 weeks) swatting at everything near the rim... Thunder will have the #1 Defense in the NBA.
Not to mention Strokin Joe and Wiggs to fill out the rotation they literally have no weaknesses. They just need experience and good health when the postseason starts
Shoutout to your pronounciation of Hartenstein. As a German, it really is hard to watch some „experts“ remain pretty clueless when he is in the league for multiple years. Keep it up bro
It’s how I fell when people call Shai (short for Shaivonte) Shy. It drives me fucking insane. Especially when it’s done by people who cover the NBA for a living
As an American, I can’t stand it when people pronounce the W is Nowitzki like an American W sound and not an American V sound drives me nuts. As far as some announcers calling Hartenstein, hartensteen, they are just old. That generation in American does not know how to pronounce other other cultures words/names at all 😂😂
The Thunder had very few needs going into the offseason, but they were necessary to take another step: -Replace Josh Diddy with a high motor guard(Caruso) -Add a bigger body to clog up the paint in Chet's place(Hartenstein) To ONLY lose Josh Giddey and add these two guys in his place is masterful, OKC has such a bright future.
@@justap7164 the combination of both the biggest threat. But I can’t imagine a fully healthy team could be stopped. Maybe Boston. But Dallas isn’t as good defensively.
@@johnnelson3665 they’re still good defensively. I think too many people forget that they became a top 10 defensive team when they traded for PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford, and they’re still on the Mavs going into the season. OKC may have the better defense as of now, but I think Mavs have the better offense and are more experienced in the post season same goes with the Celtics. Don’t expect OKC to win it all when they don’t have enough of that experience yet
Only injury will keep them from the 1 seed. The only blip on their horizon is the fact they won't be able to pay everyone the stars will either have to take pay cuts like Brunson or even bigger or they will lose a few pieces. But they have been drafting so well and have so many picks I'm not even sure that is much of a problem in the end. They should do better next post season if healthy too I'd say conference finals or better should be the goal. Winning the chip may be a stretch given how young they are but yeah sky is the limit.
OKC can actually afford to pay SGA/JDub/Chet in a couple years and not be hurt too bad if they are willing go into the tax some. They can actually afford to accept IHarts TO and still be under the 2nd apron (which I bet they renegotiate). The only thing that could keep them from that is if both JDub and Chet make All-NBA and get bumped to 30%. Their saving grace will be having so many 1st's that they can continually keep the bottom 6 on rookie deals. Cason Wallace and Lu Dort coming up for deals when SGA gets a Super in 3 years will be the first real decision they need to make.
Yeah but the problem is that in the nba your primary ball handler has to be a really good scorer otherwise you can't afford to put the ball in their hands. I think Giddey is set up well to be the back up PG for a good team.
@@masonbarker7121 time will tell but i definitely want dallas to see okc again. it would be a matchup for the ages. i just think this mavs team is the best constructed roster luka has ever had in both ends.
Shai is damn near unguardable. I wouldn’t be surprised if OKC has a slow start in their first 10 games, just because everyone has to learn their role again and then they’re gonna take off. Especially after all star break
talent to talent, thunder are the one team that can match up with the celtics. it depends on the leap their starters make this season. but warriors will win the championship so doesn’t matter
@@ashinjoshi6875 they can’t match up with the Celtics. They would stomp on the Thunder if they even got past the Mavs and met the Celtics in the finals. And Warriors aren’t gonna win anything again next year. So keep dreaming because none of this will happen
We were #1 defense last year with chet on the court. Our defense dropped so much without him on, but now with Hartenstein being our back-up big, not to mention getting a all-defensive player in Caruso, I don't see us not being the #1 defense. SGA is great offball gettings steals and reading passing lanes JDub has a 7'2 wingspan, great offball, pretty good onball defender Caruso is him at defense Lou Dort is also him at defense Chet is himothy at defense Harteinstein is much better than JayWill at defense Cason Wallace can put on some locks Aaron Wiggins is a very smart defender Isaiah Joe is quick and is able to keep up pressure on defense, even though he ain't exactly mr. clamps. Unstoppable
Bruh, idk how long you or anyone in here has followed the Thunder, but up until last season, the Thunder have always lacked reliable 3pt shooters, or if they were good in the past for another team, they couldn’t hit shit in OKC. Anyways, we all desperately wanted to see Adams try to step out and hit a corner 3 every once in awhile so that we could play 5 out, but it’s like they just never tried. Anyways, I think it was the opening play of the Chris Paul era and they run down the court, CP3 kicks it to Adams in the corner and he fucking drains it. I don’t think he shot another 3 again all season 😂😂😂
you are not very knowledgable about basketball. To imply that Josh Giddey is not a good player shows that your insight into the game is shallow. He is 21, is tied only with michael jordan and lebron james in the number of triple double recorded by the time they were 21 and is one of the best passers in the game today. Carouso is phenomenal, but Josh is not a dog
The Giddey/Caruso trade was idiotic and with Hartenstein out for some time all of you out there who think that was a good trade are going to truly see how stupid it was because Hart isn't going to be there to make up for the difference between them which is a massive decrease in talent plus a change in chemistry. Caruso for his career doesn't even average 7 pts. per game and he won't come close to that in OKC and they didn't need him anyway because Wiggins is better than him. Giddey is going to go off for Chicago. You will all find out soon....
Bro it wasn't a talent issue with Giddey. It was lineup issues. The only time he gets was a positive player for OKC is when he had the ball in his hands. But this isn't the kinda team that needs a ballhandler. They have Shai, plus other players that are way more efficient Giddey. Call me crazy but I'd say that trade was more about team fit, rather than talent.
@@jaredammon1093 Again, how did OKC finish 1st in the west and go 57-25 and MASSIVELY exceed all expectations with Giddey in the starting lineup playing a big part of their success last year? I've yet to hear one of you give any sort of logical response to this question. Are you trying to claim that OKC would have won 80 games or some shit with a different player? You can't do any better than 1st place in the west man. Now they have broken up that team and they might not ever be as good again. Just watch what Giddey does the next few months and you're going to understand how good he really is.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg I completely agree Giddey a baller. And yes he did contribute to the teams overall success. Hell he carried a portion of the schedule when SGA was out. But let's not pretend that he didn't get exposed over and over by a lack of shooting or to be honest anything other than playmaking. He wasn't a great finisher or shooter, and a liability on D for this team. So he's limited to what he has already done, or been able to do if he was to stay. We've seen the full extent of what he'd be able to offer the roster. With the ball in his hands, he plays his best ball. But as I previously stated, that's not what the thunder need. And no I never said I thought they'd win 80 games lmao. All I did was point out the fit issue between what he provides and what the thunder needs. Unfortunately they just didn't fit together.
@@jaredammon1093 You people keep saying Giddey didn't fit yet with him starting and playing a huge role they massively exceeded expectations and finished 1st in the west. How are you reconciling these two points to come to the conclusion that it's logical? LMAO You're completely contradicting yourself. you're going to learn how stupid this trade was while Hart is out because now the team literally has swapped Giddey for Caruso and there's nobody to take up the slack. They will NOT be close to as good without Giddey and all of you will see that.
We got 2 guys in the NBA top five in Steals (SGA and Caruso), + The Dorture Chamber, + JDub with a 7'2" wingspan... We will have a record number of deflected passes and steals. Perimeter D is going to be insane. And even if you get past that, you have Chet and IHart (in 6 weeks) swatting at everything near the rim... Thunder will have the #1 Defense in the NBA.
not to mention the guys on the bench are going to learn from them
Cason Wallace is a great defender too and Wiggins is pretty good and you a have a hof charge taker in Jaylin Williams
@@seth52089that’s JWills main skill
Not to mention Strokin Joe and Wiggs to fill out the rotation they literally have no weaknesses. They just need experience and good health when the postseason starts
@@thatcherervin7501 Wiggins is Batman of the NBA
Sam presti is by far the best GM in the NBA he’s consistently reloaded and brought young talent to the big stage
Shoutout to your pronounciation of Hartenstein. As a German, it really is hard to watch some „experts“ remain pretty clueless when he is in the league for multiple years. Keep it up bro
I am german myself, but when you watch NBA games with german commentators, its even worse.
It’s how I fell when people call Shai (short for Shaivonte) Shy. It drives me fucking insane. Especially when it’s done by people who cover the NBA for a living
As an American, I can’t stand it when people pronounce the W is Nowitzki like an American W sound and not an American V sound drives me nuts.
As far as some announcers calling Hartenstein, hartensteen, they are just old. That generation in American does not know how to pronounce other other cultures words/names at all 😂😂
In conclusion. we're cooked
Not me I live in okc
The Thunder had very few needs going into the offseason, but they were necessary to take another step:
-Replace Josh Diddy with a high motor guard(Caruso)
-Add a bigger body to clog up the paint in Chet's place(Hartenstein)
To ONLY lose Josh Giddey and add these two guys in his place is masterful, OKC has such a bright future.
Still a second round exit team. Until SGA gets traded.
and added those guys without losing any of our draft picks lol
@@carlocalingasan998lmao L bait
Injuries the only thing to stop them.
And the Mavs and Celtics
@@justap7164 the combination of both the biggest threat. But I can’t imagine a fully healthy team could be stopped. Maybe Boston. But Dallas isn’t as good defensively.
@@johnnelson3665 they’re still good defensively. I think too many people forget that they became a top 10 defensive team when they traded for PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford, and they’re still on the Mavs going into the season. OKC may have the better defense as of now, but I think Mavs have the better offense and are more experienced in the post season same goes with the Celtics. Don’t expect OKC to win it all when they don’t have enough of that experience yet
@@justap7164 who is guarding SGA?
Only injury will keep them from the 1 seed. The only blip on their horizon is the fact they won't be able to pay everyone the stars will either have to take pay cuts like Brunson or even bigger or they will lose a few pieces. But they have been drafting so well and have so many picks I'm not even sure that is much of a problem in the end.
They should do better next post season if healthy too I'd say conference finals or better should be the goal. Winning the chip may be a stretch given how young they are but yeah sky is the limit.
Yea hartensteins injury might limit them a little
It’s easy to sign in Oklahoma because taxes are much lower. I think it helps in terms of keeping players
OKC can actually afford to pay SGA/JDub/Chet in a couple years and not be hurt too bad if they are willing go into the tax some. They can actually afford to accept IHarts TO and still be under the 2nd apron (which I bet they renegotiate). The only thing that could keep them from that is if both JDub and Chet make All-NBA and get bumped to 30%. Their saving grace will be having so many 1st's that they can continually keep the bottom 6 on rookie deals. Cason Wallace and Lu Dort coming up for deals when SGA gets a Super in 3 years will be the first real decision they need to make.
@@hestilllives192 Hope it's not KD-RUSS-Harden 2.0. Everyone was saying the same thing about them before they
get 0 championships from them.
Curuso, Isaiah will make the OKC MORE SCARY
They fixed their rebounding as well !
Goddey was a primary ball handler, that was the main issue. Giddey isn't a bad defender or shooter.
Yeah but the problem is that in the nba your primary ball handler has to be a really good scorer otherwise you can't afford to put the ball in their hands. I think Giddey is set up well to be the back up PG for a good team.
He is a horrible shooter and defender. I watched almost every OKC game last year. He was a detriment to the team.
@@blaynebittencourt5076 i could not disagree more.
whoever is the backup pg #8 or #13 or sum but hes real good back up. aggressive, effective
#22? Cason Wallace, #8 is JDub and #13 is Dieng (a 6’10” Forward)
Gave us the second most back 2 backs, and Dallas like 30th, or 29th in B2Bs. Nba wants that playoff rematch. We want that playoff rematch. 😈
Young legs home. Hopefully they hold up
mavs gonna steamroll okc. thunder fans better hope luka hobbled again.
@@urihamilton1077not a chance bro. 2024 is a different ball game
@@masonbarker7121 time will tell but i definitely want dallas to see okc again. it would be a matchup for the ages. i just think this mavs team is the best constructed roster luka has ever had in both ends.
How would you feel if they got Steve Adams in defence? Can't happen but that would rock
Huh
Honestly, I’d love to see Chet at 5 and ❤ at 4. Then we pull Chet, slide ❤ down to the 5 and plug in J Will at the 4.
Shai is damn near unguardable. I wouldn’t be surprised if OKC has a slow start in their first 10 games, just because everyone has to learn their role again and then they’re gonna take off. Especially after all star break
Someone has to hold beer to Luka's Mavs, of course.
Ma boi shai is a baller 💪🏿
talent to talent, thunder are the one team that can match up with the celtics. it depends on the leap their starters make this season. but warriors will win the championship so doesn’t matter
Comment of the day bro. Let's go Dub Nation❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@@ashinjoshi6875 they can’t match up with the Celtics. They would stomp on the Thunder if they even got past the Mavs and met the Celtics in the finals. And Warriors aren’t gonna win anything again next year. So keep dreaming because none of this will happen
We don’t call him Maple Jordan for nothing
We were #1 defense last year with chet on the court. Our defense dropped so much without him on, but now with Hartenstein being our back-up big, not to mention getting a all-defensive player in Caruso, I don't see us not being the #1 defense.
SGA is great offball gettings steals and reading passing lanes
JDub has a 7'2 wingspan, great offball, pretty good onball defender
Caruso is him at defense
Lou Dort is also him at defense
Chet is himothy at defense
Harteinstein is much better than JayWill at defense
Cason Wallace can put on some locks
Aaron Wiggins is a very smart defender
Isaiah Joe is quick and is able to keep up pressure on defense, even though he ain't exactly mr. clamps.
Unstoppable
I bought the jersey anyway
Bruh, idk how long you or anyone in here has followed the Thunder, but up until last season, the Thunder have always lacked reliable 3pt shooters, or if they were good in the past for another team, they couldn’t hit shit in OKC. Anyways, we all desperately wanted to see Adams try to step out and hit a corner 3 every once in awhile so that we could play 5 out, but it’s like they just never tried. Anyways, I think it was the opening play of the Chris Paul era and they run down the court, CP3 kicks it to Adams in the corner and he fucking drains it. I don’t think he shot another 3 again all season 😂😂😂
A team like OKC has to lose one or two conference finals or actual finals before they can win a championship.
Why? Says who.
They don’t have too but 1 or 2 deep playoff runs would definitely help them.
G
you are not very knowledgable about basketball. To imply that Josh Giddey is not a good player shows that your insight into the game is shallow. He is 21, is tied only with michael jordan and lebron james in the number of triple double recorded by the time they were 21 and is one of the best passers in the game today. Carouso is phenomenal, but Josh is not a dog
Josh giddey is not very good at basketball. Horrible at defenses, horrible at shooting. He can pass really well but that's about it.
70 wins EZ
@@SGAKillinEm1 more like 60. They’re gonna have flaws and won’t be that insanely good in the regular season and postseason
The Giddey/Caruso trade was idiotic and with Hartenstein out for some time all of you out there who think that was a good trade are going to truly see how stupid it was because Hart isn't going to be there to make up for the difference between them which is a massive decrease in talent plus a change in chemistry. Caruso for his career doesn't even average 7 pts. per game and he won't come close to that in OKC and they didn't need him anyway because Wiggins is better than him. Giddey is going to go off for Chicago. You will all find out soon....
Bro it wasn't a talent issue with Giddey. It was lineup issues. The only time he gets was a positive player for OKC is when he had the ball in his hands. But this isn't the kinda team that needs a ballhandler. They have Shai, plus other players that are way more efficient Giddey. Call me crazy but I'd say that trade was more about team fit, rather than talent.
@@jaredammon1093 Again, how did OKC finish 1st in the west and go 57-25 and MASSIVELY exceed all expectations with Giddey in the starting lineup playing a big part of their success last year? I've yet to hear one of you give any sort of logical response to this question. Are you trying to claim that OKC would have won 80 games or some shit with a different player? You can't do any better than 1st place in the west man. Now they have broken up that team and they might not ever be as good again. Just watch what Giddey does the next few months and you're going to understand how good he really is.
@@joeldriver-sp2rg I completely agree Giddey a baller. And yes he did contribute to the teams overall success. Hell he carried a portion of the schedule when SGA was out. But let's not pretend that he didn't get exposed over and over by a lack of shooting or to be honest anything other than playmaking. He wasn't a great finisher or shooter, and a liability on D for this team. So he's limited to what he has already done, or been able to do if he was to stay. We've seen the full extent of what he'd be able to offer the roster. With the ball in his hands, he plays his best ball. But as I previously stated, that's not what the thunder need.
And no I never said I thought they'd win 80 games lmao. All I did was point out the fit issue between what he provides and what the thunder needs. Unfortunately they just didn't fit together.
Booty hurts this guy
@@jaredammon1093 You people keep saying Giddey didn't fit yet with him starting and playing a huge role they massively exceeded expectations and finished 1st in the west. How are you reconciling these two points to come to the conclusion that it's logical? LMAO You're completely contradicting yourself. you're going to learn how stupid this trade was while Hart is out because now the team literally has swapped Giddey for Caruso and there's nobody to take up the slack. They will NOT be close to as good without Giddey and all of you will see that.