Yeah, The NBA Doesn’t Like What The Oklahoma City Thunder Are Doing | OKC News (Hartenstein, Draft)
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The Oklahoma City Thunder have easily had one of the more impressive resumes so far throughout the course of the 2024 NBA offseason, the 2024 NBA Draft, trades, free agency, whatever you want to discuss. They have continued to surprise the majority of the NBA world with every move. Whether that involves the Alex Caruso trade, the Isaiah Hartenstein free agency signing, etc. The OKC Thunder will be looking a lot different in the 2025 NBA season, but while also remaining somewhat the same.
To start with the Oklahoma City Thunder offense, the additions of Isaiah Hartenstein and Alex Caruso do wonders for their depth and rotations. To pair them up with any of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Williams, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins, Chet Holmgren, Lu Dort, Jaylin Williams, etc, the versatility they’ll be able to throw at different builds of opponents in 2024 will be much needed. And then there’s a whole different conversation on the OKC Thunder draft picks of 2024 in Nikola Topic, Dillon Jones & Ajay Mitchell.
But then regarding the Thunder defense, this just jumped to a completely new level. The defensive paly of guards in Cason Wallace & Lu Dort was already phenomenal, but adding Alex Caruso to that is absurd. Then regarding Isaiah Hartenstein, he is nothing short of a two-way monster. Seeing what Hartenstein can do with Chet Holmgren in the frontcourt for Mark Diagneault will be very interesting going forward into the 2024-25 NBA season. And as we await the NBA 2024 summer league, we will get a glimpse at the OKC Thunder rookies as well.
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As a Thunder fan for years I’ve just watched no one really care about us in terms of competing. Now all this expectation is wild 😂 bloody nervous but so excited to see it start
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This season gonna be just as if not more exciting than last season
Yeah honestly I loved the thunder not getting respect and then proving everyone wrong. This year they need to show out big
You realize the thunder need to run with “a black mark on the nba” from now on.
Let’s go
Who gets on RUclips every day and searches OKC Thunder or Oklahoma City Thunder, just to see what’s being said about our team to prove to ourselves that this is real life?
Lol, that’s exactly how I found this video 😂
I stg every single day but I want to point out that tre hasn’t been in the team for a min also Lindy waters isn’t there no mo but love the video
I do this all the time lol
Thunder fans, obviously
Presti is an S teir GM
And his protege, Will Dawkins is GM of the Wizards. I'm hoping he can help turn that franchise around...he seems to be doing well so far.
Paul George is the most impactful Thunder player ever. It's the gift that keeps giving. He leaves the Clippers in FA and the Thunder own their picks for the next 3 drafts. Hilarious. Might have lottery picks for the next 3 years, with what appears to be a championship level team.
he should have his JERSEY RETIRED ahahah
Now we just need to wait until harden requests a trade before the deadline this year. The prophecy will be fulfilled
Kwahi will get injured in the olympics, wont play next yr, harden traded, and the prophecy fullfilled!
And the Best Part of that Trade...SGA
ALL that plus the draft picks... It's an embarrassment of riches here in OKC. Thunder Up!
I live in OKC. NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE A BETTER TEAM THAN THE 2011 THUNDER. HERE WE ARE!!! Thunder up ⚡️
I am surprised ppl didn't expect the best GM in sports to do it again. Die hard OKC fan, literally the most excited I've ever been for a team and upcoming season. And Russ is OKC's goat. Any true fan would tell you the same
1a. Russ
1b. Steven Adams
@@kendo79641c Andre Roberson
@@kendo79641c Andre Roberson
Dillion Jones hits this year and the MonStars are born
love this selection soooo much.
The most surprising thing for me is the fact that they still have all of their draft picks and i see them getting AT LEAST 65 wins
Best part is they have next 3 Clippers 1st rounders. If Harden or Khawhii get hurt, those could be top 5 picks any given year.
honestly its kinda sureal being from oklahoma, and having a basketball team that has a top coach in the league, and has probably the best GM in the league. feels like some of these people should be at the lakers or celtics, but no there at OKC? also to have the brightest future out of any nba team for years. like if over the next 10 years would you take the over or under on 1 championship? i would probably take the over ngl.
I had a thought about this today how many they would possibly win in the next 10 years. Honestly with the trajectory, the hype and the picks, you’d say at least 2 would be a success
Yall had this before with KD, Harden and Westbrook. Don’t fuck it up this time I’m rooting for yall
@@dboii9741the comparison is so bad
@@Wrestle_Kingdom Not really. That was a damn good team and yes the owner f’ed it up.
@afroabroad it completely different because of how okc operates okc philosophy from coaching,development,and team building is completely than it was back then and okc have way more assets which was the main issue back then because they couldn’t build around Russ and kd with good role players due to lack of assets
What surprised me, is that they took arguably the best player in the draft in Topic with the #12 pick 😮
How did other teams let him slide to OKC🤦🏻♂️
Topic was the #1 in the OKC's scouting department board 😅 even with his injury.
OKC at this point on paper is looking like they could be the next version of the 73 win warriors. They are literally great at everything and bad at nothing. And still very young.
Very excited to see a Chet + hart from court. One thing I wanted to hear you touch on was the reality of Chet getting to be a help defender off of hartenstien. Chet’s a mobile defender who can guard bigger wings and his length as help defense is going to be devastating. I could see them eclipsing 65+ wins next season
What you think JJJ and Zac Edey + Brandon Clark going to do them? Lol have them for lunch and 💩 them out.....okc ain't built like that. Think about it if Edey man handled Cligan in the national championship game what you think he gon do to chet?
@@neanam Bro chet IS better than all
@@neanamdo you really think the grizzlies are okc’s main concern? Don’t get me wrong, I think Memphis will be a whole lot better than last year, but okc will destroy them
@@neanamI think Edey will be great but Chet is gonna be even better than he was this year, he’s consistently hung with the big guys all season, hell he was giving Jokic fits at times, sure they can back him down but his length is still very hard to get around lol
@@neanambro get your point guard to stop waving straps and I might think y’all got a chance against us what was y’all’s record last year? 😂
As a Thunder fan, if they truly aren't done, I'm curious what it is they add without changing the vibes and tight knit design of this team. I'm STOKED about both additions so far, and the Topic in the draft might just be high way robbery.
The okc thunder has officially become my favorites to win the 2024-25 nba championship...how does sam presti even do it dawg
We OKC fans are accepting all bandwagons at this time welcome to the squad fam 😂😂
@@jaebuudhatv8514 aye bruh lowkey this team is lowkey my favorite team since the lakers decided to do nothing to fulfill bron’s request to get a player he was willing to take a massive paycut from 50 mil to half of that 25 mil even someone like kobe would not have done that😭 (the lakers missed out on klay,debo,hartenstein and jonas) how do you have that good of a draft and that terrible of a free agency
He's the Howie Roseman of the NBA in Presti We Trust!!!!!
Lol Don't sleep on the Grizzlies....Zack edey gon kill chet GG JACKSON ja Morant Marcus smart JJJ and Bane.... Memphis got everything it takes to be the west favorite for the next 6-7 years
@@neanamwe will see, Grizz don’t have a lot of depth outside the guys you mentioned, but they should be pretty good barring injury
Tbh the rotations really are interesting, we have an honest 7 guys who could be starters, and that’s before touching Wallace, Wiggins or J-Will. Deep rotations all around for sure
You know how Mark likes to base his lineups on the team they’re playing anyways. This shit gonna be wild.
and buried on the bench is the 2024 G-League Finals MVP
@@zenchowbuddhapraying on that Ous arrival
@@zenchowbuddhai’d bet money that Ous starts next season on a different team. He was cut from the French team which may have been strategic so he could play on the Summer League team. He’s the same age as some of the guys drafted this year with 3 years of pro experience. The Thunder will trade him in the next 12 months to a team that’s rebuilding and maybe low on picks. Brooklyn, Clippers, Portland, and *Washington or San Antonio.
*Sarr Connection
the most underrated thing is us drafting nikola topic. i understand we have all these signings, but adding a player like him to a guard filled roster makes this pick low risk, high value (relatively in a weak draft class). if he pans out to be 75% of the player he could be, his trade value could be used for even more picks or just kept.
He’s got a ton of fucking potential
I expect OKC to have a 62-win season.
To save his legs, I see Caruso spelling SGA in the 2nd Quarter, and playing the bulk of the 4th Quarter. This will change in the playoffs.
As for Hartenstein, I see him as either starting or coming off the bench for Chet as the other team's lineups dictate. The coaching staff has demonstrated admirable flexibility in their thinking and in their strategies.
Jdub is the ball handler when sga is out
Chet is usually the first to sub out anyways. Why? Because you want him to play when SGA is resting. Why not start the twin towers for the first 5 minutes of the game?
i think the finals will be OKC vs Boston for awhile like it was Warriors vs Cavs. just based off last seasons performance, the experience gained form that, and the free agency moves OKC are the best team in the west
not gone lie Memphis just drafted that big 7.3 player on top of that team being heathy now with Ja back..They line up again okc will be a great game to watch
OKC and Dallas Mavs have been the slam dunk massive winners in free agency so far, with Philly Sixers a close second.
OKC vs Dallas will be massive fight in the Western Conference finals. Boston vs Philly will be a massive fight in the East.
Been a fan since the start of the Tunder. 12 LONG years since we had a taste of the chip. Seeing it come closer and closer over the years is just unbelievable. Trust in Presti. We WILL be winning the chip within the next 1-3 years!! #ThunderUp !!!!
Thunder building a dynasty out there
Until they run up on the Grizzlies
West power rankings:
1)Thunder
2)Wolves
3)Mavs
East power rankings
1)Celtics
2)76ers
3)Bucks
They will go down as one of the best defensive teams in the modern era for sure.
The Memphis Grizzlies yeah for sure. Think about it JJJ and Marcus smart already won defensive player of the year in recent memory... add in Zack Edey 7'4 300lbs pound frame throw in GG Jackson Brandon Clark....I can see Memphis keeping teams under 100 more than any other teams..
Chet is going to get murdered by Edey...what Ja is going to kill y'all with the pick and roll.
@@neanam lol
As a Thunder fan who saw it all, Miami vs OKC finals, Westbrook emerging, KD leaving, Westbrook MVP, MVPG, Hoodie Melo, then the slump we had starting with CP3 and Steven Adams(who we had with Westbrook and KD before). We had Isaiah Roby starting in a few games 😭. As a Thunder fan, it feels so good to finally have what we have built over the ages.
This team has 2 complete lineups now. If the team they play are Big dominate, then IHart and Chet start. If it’s Small ball heavy, then it’d probably Shai, Caruso, Dort, Dub and Chet with your next team coming in with Joe, Wallace, Wiggins, Jalin Williams and IHart. This is a beautiful time to be a Thunder fan.
TOPIC is also a great PICK
As a Thunder fan, I would love to see Hartenstein starting at the 5 and sliding everyone else in the starting lineup down a position. PG-SGA SG-Dort/Williams SF-Dort/Williams PF-Chet C-Hartenstein. Rebounding is what cost us most games.
What is chet/harstentin going to do to Edey/JJJ?
Nothing ...
Edey a 7'4 brick house and JJJ is already a dpoy
@@neanam honestly, not worried about the grizzlies too much. I don’t think edey translates to the nba well. But I’m excited to see the grizzlies back with Ja.
It’s all about health. And we know SGA takes a beating. I hope he continues to stay healthy.
Run up on the Grizzlies
ring(s) on the way!!!!!
This offseason has been unreal. Definitely the best roster the Thunder have ever had. I hope they get a championship this time around!
As an Oklahoma resident and Thunder fan. Im convinced Presti has had secret cameras in GM's homes and office for years and is just now using "footage" to get what he wants.. 🤣. Presti is the man and this team looks just plain scary now.
Presti is amazing. Being a Bulls fan, I'm jealous.
Imagine a Team playing against OKC ... At backcourt ur gonna survive the defense of Wallace,Caruso & Shai... In the wing u have to go through Dort & Wiggins if luckily I get passed u had to deal with Chet & IHart.... Damn Nightmare ... Thunder Up
1. Shai, Dort, Caruso, Jdub, Chet.
2. Cason, Joe, Wiggins, Jay will(maybe deing), hartenstien.
63 wins
Just think about the lineup versatility they have:
They could go traditional: Isaiah-Holmgren-Dort-Williams-SGA
With AC as their 6th man. All their wings can move up or down a position so it works seemlessly.
Or small-ball:
Holmgren-Williams-Dort-AC-SGA
Which is gonna wreck any smaller team in the league.
Today's NBA is about matchups and OKC just added to their flexibility to go big or small or combo of both. Not only that, bringing in another big allows Chet some down time bringing his minutes down per game and over the stretch of an entire season. That adds up to fresher legs down the stretch.
record: 63-19
starting: SGA, LU, DUB, CHET and HERTEINSTEIN
(caruso 6moy btw)
Thunder Up!⚡️ with our assets and young core that we have.. we can definitely make a push for the Finals
Starting 5 should be
Pg Shai
Sg Dort
Sf Jdub
Pf Chet
C Hartenstein
And put Caruso at the 2 if they wanna go small
Definitely another 50-win season. 1.Shai 2.Caruso 3.JDub 4.Chetty boy 5.❤Stein
With Dort starting over Caruso for lower center of gravity offensive guys.
I'm with you. I can't wait to see how freaky coach Mark gets with the lineups. Wouldn't be surprised if he tries Chet at SF😂
As a Knicks fan seeing Zay walk hurts. However the NBA is a business and we wish him nothing but the best.
As a thunder fan , i believe the lineup should be
Pg: Shai Sg: Caruso Sf: Dort Pf: Jdub C: Chet
Then off the bench we have
Hartenstien ,Wallace, Joe, and Wiggins
I think we will have some trials with our lineups throughout the season but i think hartenstien may actually disrupt the offense a bit at first only because usually shai will only have one defender in the paint even remotely effecting his shot and now with hartenstien being a rim roller he will have 2. But i think with the addition with Hartenstein we will have a lot more three pointers attempted due to offense rebound kick outs so i’m excited for that but initially i think he should be in a bench role playing about 24-28 minutes a night.
Also Hot take 🔥: I think okc needs one more playmaker off the bench with the loss of micic last year , if we can make the money work , Lonzo ball could have a bounce back year and come to okc in limited minutes !
Very excited to see this team get to work & i think they’re setup to matchup with boston, hopefully they can get there !
A player who makes 29 million is not coming off the bench.
@@TheJudgementofDogit’s not about starting, it’s the minutes. iHart needs to come off the bench primarily so we can always have a good center out therr
Disagree.Imo it will be Sga Dort J-Dub Chet Hartenstein starting. Caruso at Pg in the 2nd unit.
The thunder are the deepest team in the league. It’s crazy
I think in the regular season, Caruso and Hart are going to help tremendously. And will also help in the playoffs. But if the thunder are truly ready to make or win the finals, then JDub and Chet are going to have to take another step forward offensively to give Shai some help.
Hartenstein and Caruso are going to start so Dort will get moved to the bench. I would imagine both will get around 25 minutes per game and neither one is much of a scorer so you can look for more points from all three of the big dogs SGA, Chet and JDub. I'm looking forward to seeing how everything gels in the first couple of months into the season. We'll all know pretty soon what the potential of this team is. I hate losing Giddey but Hart fixes a huge problem and if Caruso can average around 10 like he did last year that would be perfect.
67 Win warrior year
If we get Lauri i’m gonna spazz
The best thing Sam did was to not lose any draft capital.
Caruso will come off the bench regardless. I think Joe & Hart will alternate being the 5th starter based on matchups. SGA - Dort - Dub - Chet will be the consistent 4
60+ wins
Bro, when did they get Wiggins??
I really thought it was the end when OKC got rid of Westbrook and PG, boy was I wrong. We’re title contenders now!
In Presti we trust.
The league is cooked! Thunder up ⚡️🌩️
Trade for Lauri and make the super team I stg
problem is....the west is so stacked...every post season series ends in 7 and then meets the Celtics which is fresh off of four sweeps again. East got weaker, west gets stronger....West burn themselves out and play tired or injured against a 1st seed ECF
🔵🌩️🌩️🌩️🌩️🟠
TH🌩️NDER 🆙
Chet,J-Dub,Dort,Joe,SGA
Hartenstein first off the bench for Joe followed by Caruso & Carson in for Chet and Dort followed by Wiggins in for J-Dub now that leaves back Dieng, J-Will, k-Will rotating that last 10 & 11 spot with spotted minutes here and there to the rook Dillon Jones
This Hartenstein stuff is actually insane. You will see -- "league's top frontcourt"??????????
We gettin that chip next season
Grizzlies got a stronger team..
67 wins
Shai, Caruso, Jdub, Chet, Iheart
Based on last season's rotation, I-Hart and Caruso will probably play off the bench. Shai plays the whole 12 minutes in the first, while JDUB, Giddey, Dort, and Chet will sub out. With the new addition of I-Hart and Caruso, they might play with Shai in the first and then Chet and JDub in the first 6 minutes of the second quarter. So basically, Chet and Hartenstein will be playing at 4 and 5, because most of the time, JDub was the ball handler. With that being said, if Chet can't hold back the defense inside, Hartenstein will play a significant role and probably will play at the 4th, same goes with Caruso because Joe is not that consistent during crunch time (It was always JDub, Shai, and Chet who delivers at the end). With this team without any liabilities anymore, I'm hoping that OKC will win the 2025 Championship.
Giddey?
@@jtmichaelisme I was stating the rotation last season
60 wins is possible for the thunder 2024-2025
Might sound delusional. Okc gonna be 65-17 starting line up easily is gonna be shai, dort, dub, chet, Hartenstein. Off the bench (let me be delusional) Westbrook, Wallace or Joe depending on if we need scoring or defense at that moment, Wiggins, caruso, j will.
Sam is cooking
OKC, Dallas, Minnie are gonna be battling for the #1 seed next season. The Nuggets have fallen off and are in tier 2 with the Pels, Suns and Clippers
DENVER lost 2 important players but as long as JOKIC plays the entire season they are a top contender..he is the main reason why players around him look great.
OKC has now TOPIC at PG and he didnt mentioned that as well...thats a tall PG who cant now guard tallers PG and let SGA rest.
Glad y'all sleeping on Memphis lol
This video has me hype as fuck
How rarely does a super young team stick together? With the exception of Giddey. Who obviously was not liked after what he did off the court. Caruso is a great defender and a great shooter as well. It seems like the perfect marriage on paper. But yeah you gotta prove it next year.
I think Hart will average 23 minutes per game while starting most of the season.
They would still get swept by the Mavs, who now has Klay.
Knicks are definitely going to feel that L this season
trading SGA for Trae makes OKC a finals winner, not contender
TRAE is the outside threat and intimidation that OKC needs, plus his play making is just as good
SGA isn’t a three point threat like he needs to be…he’s a little too mid range oriented
he’s a bucket tho, but the 3PT threat elevates teams from contender to winner…
😂😂 You gotta be a little kid right?
Trae is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.
@@kendo7964 watch OKCs downfall be SGAs lack of 3PT aggressiveness …just watch 🤷🏽♂️‼️
@@Felipe-cu2ok he owned NYC before Brunson came in town…Randle couldn’t even out master little Trae🤷🏽♂️
Them and the Sixers won free agency
The way you guys are talking you think ya’ll just picked up shaq Hakeem or Tim Duncan or something you over paid for a back up center that’s all he is a backup just hope he has the same chemistry like he had in NY remember he developed under the Knicks coaching staff if the Knicks had the money he wouldn’t be there you over paid for a journeyman center period and it was a contract yrs for him of course he’s gonna play hard to get the bag it’s still Dallas and Minnesota and don’t forget Memphis Denver and your coaching staff don’t even know if he’s coming off the bench or starting you paying him big bucks he should be starting he left to get paid and they were desperate he had 1!! Good 1/2 yrs because a starting center got hurt and you empty the safe Wow!!!!
That's a hell of a first sentence! Cormac McCarthy would be proud. lmfao Also "empty the safe" at 3yr/$87M? Nah.
I can’t sleep until we beat the mavs in the playoffs
Grizzlies definitely not worried about what okc is doing....they not built like that when it comes to Memphis
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give up bunch of 2nd round picks right?
Presti will use Hartenstein to trade for Giannis next year
Straight up trade without giving up any 1st round picks😆.
It'll be genius if they can find a way to keep the NBA from screwing OkC out of another title. 🤔
As a thunder fan, I like the ESPN projected starting 5 where they had a lineup of SGA, Caruso, Jdub, Chet, and I hart. Chet can shoot well so he would be a perfect stretch 4 while I hart can rebound well.
Dort is the starter and Caruso is his backup. ESPN smoking something lol
caruso has more offense than dort. caruso 6th man is lethal
they line up reminds of the memphis lineup with smart from last year and drafting that giant ass center
They could go anyway they want. SGA, Caruso, JDUB, Chet, Hart , Dort will all play 28+ min a game. Then they have Joe, Wiggins , Wallace in the reserve unit.
We probably won't know the starters until Opening night, and it might change as the season goes on. MD will experiment, but we know he will do some thins like play SGA the whole first, and sit JDUB at some point in the first, and bring him back with the second unit. Chet will likely play 60% of his minutes at Center, and 40% at PF. Meaning one of Chet/IHart will be on the court at all times.
@@pepperflu742 He really doesn't with Dort hitting 40% from 3 its pretty even between them
55-27. Win WCF
I lived in Seattle and am still mad at these guys for taking away our team.
You and Klay should hold each other and have a tantrum
You realize y’all voted not to keep your team right? You can’t be mad at us when y’all are the ones that made them leave
Oh so you dont know what youre talking about is all youre saying
You’re a grown man and still mad that your city didn’t support the team which led to the NBA approving the move.
Seattle made Seattle lose their team😭
Kyle Anderson doesn’t what he does
Reigning is for entities who have accomplished things twice in a row or more. For example, the Chiefs are reigning champions. A title fighter on his 2nd or more defense is reigning. Entities that have earned something once are labeled as 'defending'. Idiocracy, here we come.
Starting 5 PG mvp Shai SG Caruso. Sf Dort. PF J dub. C Chet I hart 6th man and I think Okc wins maybe 66 games like 59
O City or no City 😂❤
67-15
Only to get bounced out by Memphis or Dallas 😂
On top of all this Clippers lost Paul George and OKC still have 3 Clipper picks that will be falling into lottery position when the Clippers implode.
OKC will smoke Denver now. Since our GM is about as competent as a bag of rocks
I don’t think hartinstine is a good fit with the thunder. He fit really well with the knicks.
Over hyping these guys
Youngest team ever to win 57 games. And then they remove their weakest starter. But health always decides a season. This team could win 65 games if healthy. They are the Celtics of the West.
🙄
we got Ous just waiting to come off the bench
As a Mavs fan, I’m not worried about OKC. The lack of help for SGA was embarrassing in the Mavs thunder series. Chet and Williams are 3rd and 4th options…. Y’all need a real 2nd option
Bruh
@@alberto6262 Shai is all by his lonesome. The thunder have great role players but need a 1-2 punch… they’ll be a great regular season team again for sure.
That’s hilarious considering mavs lost all there defense this offseason. Giddey for AC alone changes that whole mavs series. IH is just the icing on the cake. Mavs should be very worried about OKC
The new twin towers
All these bandwagon OKC fans, hilarious
🙄
And you prefer to stick with a team even though they are horrible. So horrible that even members of the team want to leave. I don’t understand the devotion to one team. Most of the players don’t even care about that city.
Is OKC the whitest team in the league? lol
Thunder is a trash team....