Thrustmaster TGT II First Impressions On Gran Turismo 7 (From a Logitech G29)
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2022
- Thanks to NZGaming, I am able to give my impressions and review on the Thrustmaster TGT II wheelbase and wheel. What a nice step this is coming from a Logitech G29! I hope you enjoy the video and that it informs you on some of the feelings and features from this wheelbase.
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I had a chance to test both MOZA R5 and T-GT II on F1 22 on PC at a shop in Singapore. What you're describing is exactly what I experienced. Granularity in the FFB even when the power is turned down to something you would actually set for daily use, direct reaction to your wheel inputs etc. After testing both wheels at lower power -50% and then 40% gain on the R5 and 50% gain on the T-GT II, bought the T-GT II despite it not being DD.
I subbed quite recently after finding your gt7 guides. I really appreciate your no nonsense, insightful and straightforward approach to your videos
Also the timing of this is fantastic as I’m looking to upgrade to a wheel from controller
Thanks so much for your great advice. I have the same Logitech issues you mentioned and I am looking to upgrade without spending a shit load, I am buying a Thrustmaster from NZ Gaming thanks to your great review. Can’t wait to get it! 🤘🤘
I'm upgrading from a logitech wheel so this video is very helpful. Great review, thanks!
just discovered this, thanks you've cleared up my decision to upgrade to a TGT II. The spreadsheet is fantastic. See you out there from Rimsh0t
Good review straight to the main points.
Great video ! Thank very much
Great review! Thanks
Worth every cent for me, never had such an amazing experience, I have T150, T300rs, Logitec 920, g29 and g923... this is by far the best wheel on the market, specially for GT7. Although I did decide to upgrade the brake system. I've lowered my records for as much as 6 seconds right out the box (well with a little adjustment period of about 20min)
How did it compare to the T300RS? I have the TCLM pedals and am thinking about upgrading the servo from the T300, however the Fanatec DD stuff is supposed to be better but I don't know if its worth the upgrade since I already have TM ecosystem stuff.
Some people had had t-gt 2 calibration issues with the ps5. Have you had any
@@mudhippy it's worth the upgrade over t300...especially if you have the tm ecosystem. T818 is awesome too but it's for pc only so for gt7 tgt2 is the ultimate thrustmaster experience
@@artfull_dodger__ Nope - The wheel is awesome I can't imagine even a direct drive is much better. I just got the base.
You think this is better than Fanatec Gt dd pro for GT7? I can get either around the same price so not sure what to get🧐
I have the same setup, very happy with it
Sorry, but the 4 rotary dials that coordinate directly with the colour coded car adjustment settings has completely sold this to me!! 😍👌
I have t300 and I'm having problems with the ps2 connector (pause menu mid corner) between the wheel and the base. Seems like this wheel has the same connector. Can you confirm that please?
Someone figure a way to install the pedal t3pa on a Gt Lite solidly???Only 2 screw under the pedal to fix the set and the whole plate is not solid when hard braking....
What FFB settings were you running with the G29 with GT7? I was doing 4,4 but tbh with this being my first wheel I can barely read any of the detail and just feel a more generic force. Don’t know if that is my inexperience or the wheel 🤷🏻♂️ also, what cockpit setup are you using. Thanks for your content, much appreciated. I am slightly shocked your videos have been with a G29… now I can’t blame my wheel for my bad times anymore…
I’ve gone and bought the T-got 2 and was wondering if you can remember what ffb settings you used
Nice video! Was considering upgrading to the TGT II from a T300 RS. Sounds like it would be a nice step up from what I have now.
(P.s. have you tired out the 1 hour GR3 race at Spa? Would love to see you do a video on it!)
was it worth the upgrade? I am new to sim racing and confused between the two.
I have the t300 RS and my next upgrade wouldn't be the tgt 2 , but the moza R9.
Anyone know of a compatible hand break that works with ps5 and this wheel? Other than the thrustmaster handbreak/shifter. A little out of my price range.
Hey bro i just got the tgt-2 servo to use on ps5, do i update the firmware from thrustmaster website? The only driver available is for pc ? And the same for the sf1000 wheel ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Great review, TGT 2 is great probably the best thing you can get in NZ for PS.
you cant get the fanatec in NZ?
Has to be imported indirectly. Cant get it straight from fanatec
@@unleasheddrivers1281 facts. I was going to buy and have it shipped to my parents in the USA and then shipped to me.
The 4 knobs on this wheel is much better than 4-direction buttons on Fanatec dd PRO wheel. I mean why even putting 4-direction buttons there when all you can do is increasing and decreasing values.
Quick question how far do you have to screw in the screw for the wheel when put on
I think the yellow dial might be for the dirt rally car torque setting 🤔🤷♂️. Great video, thanks for sharing 😀👍
Great video. How would you compare the TGT 2 with the Fanatec DD Pro ? Looking to buy a wheel, however DD pro is never available in the UK. Is there much difference between those 2 wheels.
I have t-gt 2 with tlcm pedals and is good. I bought this instead of fanatec for two reason, first fanatec is always out of stock and second fanatec forum and reddit is full of ppl complain about dd base alignment problem and sometine some bad noise and non exist customer care, many mails wo respond. After all review that say fanatec is better i think it is but quality control no.
In new Zealand it's very hard to get fanatec as they don't deliver to new Zealand so for us to gt fanatec it's very very expensive
I’ve been thinking the same. Although for a very near price you can get the GT DD pro they’re bundle is always out of stock. Logitech have released their direct drive wheel but it’s price is around £1400 for the wheel and pedals (which incidentally they’ve increased twice from £1200 in the two weeks it’s been out), I personally think the Logitech g pro is overpriced compared to the competition.
I might end up getting T-GT2
What would be the best gear shifter for this wheel?
I had the chance to try out the moza w/wo the motion seat and also the gt2.
I bought the gt2.
I feel that when the force is too strong, you will feel exhausted after a few games. It’s not enjoyable.
Unless I’m going for real car competition or games competition utilizing these rigs, I feel that gt2 is good.
Also tried the g923. It’s really noisy and flimsy feel.
So GT2 is a good between.
Paid sgd890 for it.
And I’m good with the original pedals.
I’m sitting on a sofa and with the original pedal, when pressing the brake fully, I tend to shift on my sofa. So if u have a loadcell brake, you will probably need to buy those bucket seat.
Nice review mate.
Like deployed 👍
😎🎙🏎✅
Thanks so much mate!
How high is the latency for wheel rotation input? In the video the lag seems to be quite significant..
There's no lag.
Very good.
if you're running this wheel on PlayStation 5 make sure your number one controller is turned off or interferes with the wheel kicks it out and messes up the brake pedals I have load cell
TGT1 and TGT2，which one is better for GT7?
i want to know the difference between the t300 and tgt 2
Looking at the g923 but how loud are the Logitech wheels is my main concern
Yeah i cant play after my family sleep but its a good wheel i think.i dont know if i made bad decision by not buying t300rs.
What screen is that and also is it a ps5 ? Thanks man
Can the the TLCM pedals be connected directly to the TGT II?
yes
I recently upgraded from the G29 to the T-GT II and T-LCM pedals also. The difference is night and day. I always hated that "cogging" I got with the G29 although the wheel is so darn consistent and reliable. If you go into your controller settings from options (not T-LCM but PS5 controller) and turn the rumble effects to max, you'll feel different rumbles in your feet which is very immersive and I found myself driving on the shoulders and rumble strips just to feel it! I also added the shifter which is very heavy being mostly metal and makes the Logitech shifter very toyish. All up, I invested $1,300 AU into the TM system and it's worth every cent. I intend to change the wheel with the Ferrari add-on wheel in the future. 😁
Don't get me wrong, its an awesome ecosystem, but wouldn't it of been better to invest into a direct drive set up, because belt drive is out dated?
@@spencerl5315 Nope, the wheel is rated 6.6nm which is stronger than the DD Pro at 5nm (without the upgrade, at extra cost). I can't use it at max FFB. I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference between a T-GT II and DD Pro. They both work extremely well. Only really cheap and bad belt drives are outdated. The T-GT II is on another level.
Yeah CSL DD and V3 pedals would’ve been the WAY smarter route
@@boxboxbox624 You feel this way because you haven’t used DD!! In no way is Belt Drive NEAR DD!!! Good for u I guess!! As long as you’ve convinced yourself that spending that much on a Very Substandard Product!! 1300$ for Belt drive??? Wow!!
What rig are you running the T-GT2 on?
I’m I two minds whether to get either the t300rs or t-gt 2. Any advice
What do you mean
tgt2
I find it amazing that you only use a G29 to make videos with impressing results, must be pure talent! For sure you'll improve with that TGT II, enjoy!
Whats your setup?
Ok so I play on ps5. Would I still have update the firmware, drivers on a pc although I play on ps5.
Did you ever find out I’m wondering the same thing
You don’t have to update but I did
Huge difference, its a bit wasted on Console though. I moved to a TGt2 from T500, big difference and much better FFB on PC.
thrustmaster trying to sell off old stock before the new DD wheel comes out ? I have this same setup. it is way over priced and in Aus it is slightly cheaper than a Fanatec DD wheel. I regret buying this and not the fanatec dd
the DD is the obvious choice for GT7
I can’t find any Fanatec DD wheel in Australia at the moment. I’m wondering if the T300 is the better deal here at $599 on Amazon? Currently have a G29 and hoping it would still be an upgrade.
@@rover1374 you wont find it in Aus mate, you need to buy direct from fanatec, trust me, the thrustmaster doesnt come close
@@utrapzab yeah I just meant on the Aus Fanatec site I can’t find one. They have been sold out for months now! The availability of the T GT2 makes it tempting.
Yellow dial is for Torque Split in 4wd cars
I tried it but it didnt work for that. It stayed as a general dial for all menus rather than specifically for torque distribution
@@unleasheddrivers1281 Oh right, that’s surprising considering the colour. I guess they needed one of them to go through the menus then lol
Yeah a bit strange, theres likely an option to set it in the menu but I'm still yet to have a deeper dive in. Clicking in the yellow button cycles through the MFD but only one way
If the torque split is an option with the car, it does appear on the yellow dial but not exclusively. It becomes one of the options on the yellow dial. Considering the times I've actually used that option, I'm okay with the config.
Y would you get that when you can get DD PRO 4 about the same price
I replied to another comment before, right now the low end Fanatec DD base is a good deal but it's so difficult to get anywhere as it's mostly sold out and being in New Zealand, you can't get Fanatec gear directly and so getting it over here ends up being more expensive
The DD Pro isn't the same price in our neck of the woods. The difference for me was a lot when adding load cell brakes and a shifter. Not to mention months of waiting for the DD Pro and also their hardware reliability issues, which they are slow to respond to, time spent in returns, repairs or replacement and going without during that time. TM are available everywhere without the issues mentioned. I did a lot of homework before settling on the T-GT II (pack... no pedals), T-LCM pedals and the shifter.
As long as your fanatec stuff works well it's fine. I sold all my fanatec stuff about 3 years ago because of super bad support. When they released the dd with 5nm with the "additional" 8nm power supply, they gave me the rest. I'd never buy fanatec again. Unfortunetly they deliver good but overpriced products (as long as it works and it's available on their crappy homepage) and licensed ps5 sim racing gear. As a ps5 owner you're quite lost 😂
For Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals I highly recommend 3drap elastomer mod. It transforms brake feel so much, I can't describe it with words. Just, it makes using loadcell brakes "like they are supposed to be used." I know the shipping costs are insane for such a cheap product, so if you can, look around if you can find something similar. I heard you can use skateboard bushings, so you can DIY T-LCM and have much better experience.
Or replace the whole spring crap with runber spacers nd wshers. Same effect for a fraction of the money
@@larsriemen9770 Maybe. But if you put just rubber, then ***I*** got the same feeling like I was pushing to a tennis ball. And I didn't like the feeling.
Actually I installed their elastomer a little differently. I used Elastomer, Red Spring and a lot of spacers, so that spring was around 50% squeezed. Brake was engaged (showing) at around 20% when not pressed on. I made that as a deadzone, so it became 0%. It made the brake pedal more stiff with less travel, but you can feel the progressiveness. And you can do "tap" (10%) in the middle of the corner, or 80% so that you don't lock the brakes.
Anyway, there are some "skateboard bushings" that people claim make them very similar to heusinkveld sprints. I personally didn't try this. But if it works for people, more power to them.
@@alpha007org fair enough. Wasn‘t trying to make definite point. Thing is though imho the rubber solution is legit, cheap and via the various available shore ratings extremely versatile. Also i used the very inacurate term „rubber“. After all it‘s about personal preference and obviously we both found a way to tweak what thrustmaster gave us to our liking ;)
@@larsriemen9770 Yeah, I understand. What's works for you, who am I to say it's bad?
I just wanted to add that 3drap solution is not good enough as they ship it. If you add spacers you can get even better feeling.
Maybe skateboard bushings are even better but I haven't tried them.
And there are probably a lot of different DIY mods that make your experience better.
3drap is just convenient. But shipping costs are almost more than that piece of elastomer.
@@alpha007org it definitely is very convenient.
Btw i found skateboard bushings to be too stiff for my taste. It‘s trial and error i guess.
Whats your take on life expectancy of the modded tlcm? Mine starts to become a little bendy and worn…feels like it began flexing though its screwed to the rig.
I never ever see RUclipsrs mention the biggest problem with Thrustmaster wheels , the overheating. Does this overheat ? Does it lose FFB when running for longer sessions?? Can you no problem run endurance racing and get 5hrs out of it without overheating and becoming a Useless plastic toy ?? Thrustmaster are known for having serious problems with overheating and I never see any RUclipsr mention this ... Guess they can't if they get it for free to review for videos .... Can u please tell me if this one's better at all and reliable?? I don't want to pay 1000$+ only to have it work for a couple of hours and then lose most of it's FFB
I've not had any overheating issues. I ran it for about an hour yesterday and it was alright. I can't comment for usage over an hour though.
I ran a 6 hour endurance on ACC and had no overheating issues.
I play for 8 hour sessions.. Few breaks in b. W.. It gets hot on one area of the base... But I haven't lost any ffb.
What I did do is get a small fan and clamped it right next to the grill opening . and make sure it stays cool.
I do the same with my pc n ps4.
why not a direct drive, that would make much more sense and has the same price!
Theres not many DD options available at this price. The Fanatec Clubsport DD base is a good one but it's not easy to find right now as they're mostly sold out.
Being in New Zealand, we don't have any direct access to Fanatec equipment either so it ends up being more expensive importing anyway.
Being in NZ, this is currently one of the best options we have, especially for Gran Turismo.
A normal t300 is a lot better than the logitecs
Logitec wheela are garbage there more a toy . Thristmaster all the way
the gloves is cringe ngl