RUclips won't hold a creator accountable UNLESS they start causing their ad partners to withdraw from RUclips. In that case, their channel will go poof almost instantly.
No but the IRS frowns on multi-million dollar fraud, both state and federal. Rather surprising that no one is really paying attention to that since we are talking felonies involving prison time.
I feel like saying “retractions are the most embarrassing thing you can do” is what’s harmful in journalism. Retractions for misinformation should be normal and encouraged, yes try to get things correct the first time but encourage people to put out correct information when mistakes happen
It’s embarrassing because a journalist’s one job is to get shit right. They HAVE to take it down and make a retraction because clearly they suck at their job. If they’re encouraged then we can’t trust the news because people can just say whatever the fuck they want and there’s no accountability.
I really wanted him to stfu and move on after a minute. He made his point. We know it. He admitted fault. I was like "did we really need to keep going back to that?" lol
It is though, claiming such crazy claims with a horrible source just spreads misinformation, ruins your credibility and does more harm than good, corrections are definitely embarrassing.
If it was just a small mistake, sure, but this is crazy claims with no backing whatsoever, just a bunch of nonsense he spewed because he was in the mood to do so, so yeah it has to be shamefull in this instance.
Dude watched Squid Game for the absolute wrong reasons. He pretty watched it and said, “I’M GONNA RECREATE THIS BECAUSE IT’S TRENDY, I’M THE MOST SUBSCRIBED RUclipsR OF ALL TIME NOW AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME!” I know this comment is referring to the Amazon show he’s doing, but it’s clear that he’d be one of the villains in Squid Game.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@hqzdn0032 spamming this reply does not prove your point kid, it's more tiring being desperate for any hope that Mr. Beast can get away with what he did, best to admit you idolized the wrong person
@@afellowhuman8944 you are saying I'm look up to Mr beast but I never say I look up to him. he is just a person and at list I'm not taking someone allegations as fact
@@afellowhuman8944 you are saying I'm look up to Mr beast but I never say anything about looking up to him he is just a person and at least I'm not taking someone allegation as fact
I did not expect that within like 2 month I would go from "I do not care about this dude and his content at all" to "Man I really do not like MrBeast".
Honestly if he works with Logan and ksi there is no doubt in my mind he is a scmbag and deserves to be cancelled. But hey if someone dies at the beast games at least he has buddies who can film the body
@@Doctor_Glados I mean look at the criminal he worked with, you see him as bad as a scammer, I see him as bad as the guy with the record he knowingly put into contact with kids, when you put potential victims into reach of convicted criminals, you are as bad if not worse than that criminal
People said that Mr beast would get screwed over once Moistcritikal said something about it, but apparently Jimmy here screwed up so badly, that he skipped 3 entities stages and went on and got into beef with **DANTDM** of all people.
Id say its damaged since he jumped the gun and didnt wait for the fact check but everything else seems to be true so i dont think hes ruined. It was irresponsible though but hopefully he will do better in the future
it's not absurd it's about abuse YOU DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH we are talking about peoples lives here we all know how the internet is so do your due diligence.
I've been a long-time fan of MrBeast, but choosing to collaborate with 2 people who are KNOWN for scamming while being EXTREMELY CONTROVERSIAL is just plain stupid.
I don't think this is a valid reason to assume Dogpack lied about everything, everyone should always have a healthy dose of skepticism and just weigh what he says against the evidence he provides, but you're wrong in acting as if everything he's claimed shouldn't be believed.
Muta claiming he’s never made a false claim is also really weird. I sense some subconscious projection from that whole spiel, and maybe a hint of jealousy about the “new wave.”
Fr he made one mistake He said it was alleged and that there’s a lot of people with the same name Once it was confirmed to not be the guy he retracted the statement This is…weird for Muta
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd yeah, 100% agreed. this video was super weird. also the only thing retracted is the CHARGES but not the dv part. kinda funny after he says "have critical thinking" and here we are he doesn't.
- He covered up the fact that his friend is a predator while making that friend one of the primary figures on his channel that he knows has a target audience of children. - He allegedly hired, employed, and paid offenders / felons to work within his company as well as move those types of people around between his other companies when they caused problems instead of firing them. - He mistreats people that take part in his ”win money challenges,” as well as taking no safety precautions to the point where many people have had to go to the hospital both in the past and recently, and they are forced to sign an agreement before taking part in the challenge that states that they aren’t allowed to tell anyone anything nor sue Mr. Beast for the damages he causes to them. - He faked most of his videos and lied to everyone straight to their faces by claiming that everything is 100% real on multiple interviews when they aren't. - And in the midst of all of this, he decides it’d be a good idea to team up with one of the most well-known scam RUclipsrs ever who would sell his own audience off if he was given a good enough offer, as well as another RUclipsr who has such a big ego that if he fell off his high horse, he’d fall from the clouds, to make an unhealthy lunchbox that they market specifically towards children, and as a bonus, they decide to attack / harass DanTDM when he spoke out against them, and Dan is one of the oldest and most well-respected RUclipsrs ever. And that’s not even all of it. I wonder what he does next...
I mean you can hate on him for everything but one thing if someone's a felon that means they pay their debts to society and they deserve a second chance not a third or fourth but they do deserve a second chance.
Seems like he always has like that! Also he tried to scam His fans with Crypto in the pasta, he has only stoped because His manager though It wouldn't look good for him!
@@hexxinthat would fly normal circumstances however, the main issue is a few of these offenders charged because they were under age why is that important? Because beast is children’s entertainer
@@hexxin As a felon myself, you do not deserve a second chance until years later AFTER you pay your debts and build up trust again. Even then, if you're a sex offender, you don't deserve a second chance in the slightest. Who TF hires those kinds of people TO WORK WITH KIDS?? ARE YOU REGARDED?
Sorry Mutah, but as a "normal, critical thinking" person I'm not going to immediately disbelieve everything that Dogpack says because he made a fuckup. It was alleged, he even tweeted out that he wasn't actually using That Surprise Witness as a prime source when he went into Twitter beef with your bro Nick Deorio, and he actively apologized and made a point to correct the narrative, something many drama RUclipsrs refuse to do. It's insane how immediate the popular Drama RUclipsr clique turned on Dogpack, despite this misstep not even being remotely as bad as they make it out to be. Should that vid have been posted? No. Was it a mistake? Yes. Is it damning against any other claim ledged by Dogpack? No. Nick's been salivating for a gotcha against Dogpack since day 1, don't get roped in by his thirsty ass
Are people actually shitting on dogpack for ONE screw up? Like yeah, that's bad, but it's not NEARLY enough to discredit every other claim he's made. Now if something came out agaist his primary sources? Yeah then he's toast
@@raghnall847 as someone who has never seen him before, one major screw up like that IS enough to make me never watch him. "I'm gonna post a video making allegations based purely on rumors and guesses!" woo! good for you, ima toss you in with the twitter and tick tock users
@@raghnall847 i mean when someone claims to be supporting or striving to find the truth in a matter, only to promote ideas that they cannot prove, they've basically killed off whatever credibility they had, completely of their own accord, for no reason whatsoever, making them unreliable
It's concerning to see the disparities between what is marketed and the real facts. The selling of health products to impressionable youngsters needs stricter regulations and actual scientific backing.
Tbf I don't think any of the three stooges are claiming it's health food Just that it's healthier than what they're competing against, lunchables, which is still a questionable claim since it comes with prime and feastables lmao
all ads targeted towards kids should be banned. all medical ads banned. all recreational drugs ADS* banned. Woah writing laws is so hard! edit: recreational drug ads, not drugs
Their products were tested already. They actually are *slightly* healthier than normal lunchables as well as having slightly more calories(more food). That being said, as a snack, it still pretty unhealthy when compared to the multitude of snacks that are available to eat.
@@Monicat03which, assuming its FOR LUNCH, could be a bad thing. Little timmy needs good healthy food, and although an apple is healthy, there isn't quite enough "food" there. And lets add prime in those stupid things, surely that won't push the kids into a frenzy "isn't prime also REALLY bad for them?"
because it had nothing to do with the video. also luvs2, that is a very chronically online take. you should chill out for a bit. maybe think about the "narrative" you are alleging for a second and compare it to the entire rest of the video.
@@logandarnell8946 it does have something to do with the video?? He went through one part of that video that was a mistake that he said was alleged, and ignored the true confirmed part of the video. I still watch Muta but this video was kinda a miss due to ignoring stuff
It does however call into question all of his “alleged” claims. There’s already enough proven stuff to destroy Mr beasts reputation, but it showed that dog pack is willing to throw allegations without verification.
I haven't believed Dogpack since he showed up on Ludwig's stream and couldn't answer a single question that Ludwig posed and his pompous attitude. Literally the questions Ludwig asked were completely unrelated to his time working for Mr. Beast and the only response being the equivalent of "you work for the enemy"
Mr. Beast and other creators making products to sell to their audiences isn't wrong in itself, the issue lies in honest and ethical advertising and business practices.
Yup, nobody got mad like this when Prime released. Because they weren't like "Kids you NEED to buy this, gatorade is mid! Prime is way healthier than x product". They advertised it as it is, without this huge "it's the healthiest thing out there" branding. If you want to attack a leading market giant like that, then you better make sure your product is exactly what's advertised. Parents pick up on this whole "Lunchly is healthy!" thing because they actually read the package. Why would my kid, who runs around all day, need LESS calories? And why is a drink with dipotassium phosphate and other added chemicals, that are linked to health problems (kidney related), better than a Caprisun that is just fruit juice with a bit of sugar? Also, lunchly is DOUBLE the price of lunchable. You could legit go to mcdonalds and get your kid a happy meal, which they would be way happier with, for the same price you'd get a lunchable. Neither are healthy, but at least mcdonalds offers them more joy, and it's a bigger quantity.
As people who seem to have the most wide-eyed and impressionable audiences I always wonder why they do this, they would still sell millions just on their personal brand recognition anyways imo
i think we need to stop letting youtubers sell products like food, skincare and finance services. they are not experts in those fields, theyre experts in manipulation. thats a very dangerous slope, especially for kids. we are seeing kids drinking energy drinks, using skincare and wanting to get into crypto at the ripe old ages of like 8-13. thats not right.
While I would never buy anything shilled by anyone on RUclips, kids don't have jobs. If they are buying energy drinks, crypto, and skincare, it's the parents money they are spending. It's the parents job to educate their children to not believe what they see and hear on the internet. That being said, most of the youtubers I watch don't really shill out products. Muta does a few, but I enjoy his content, and I'm not dumb enough to buy anything being sold. RUclips is run by Google, in the United States. They can sell what they want, it's a free country.
It's silly right, "yeah no manipulation isn't a problem kids should just quit being so dumb", i get it its true, kids being smarter would be great, but they aren't and neither are we. It'd be great if more parents did their jobs, it'd be great if kids could be protected, but the fact does still stand, metaphorically, if there's a bad guy, don't it make sense to take him out? Squabbling about how "errm actually its the kids/parents fault for being abused" is a bad take i think.
I dont like logan paul but the prime drinks dont taste bad and they're absolutely too strong for kids. They're really addicting, same as any other energy drink. Ive been getting them on sale though since HIS lawsuit 😂 50 cents a can, free microplastics
What little world is Mutahar living in? That's literally his ONLY bad point from what I've seen and while he does make serious allegations, he LITERALLY makes sure to notify the audience that there are numerous people with that name amongst other things. Did you want him to say blatantly to take it with a grain of salt? Everything else is blatantly and utterly true. One is literally an eye witness testimony. The first video shows ample valid evidence that Beast takes advantage of kids and promotes bad behavior. His third video gives ample evidence for his accusations against the main guy he put in the thumbnail. He also has verified employee testimonials which is a journalist org would run since they've verified the source. But he screws up a part of one video while being transparent that he could be wrong and that negates everything else. L take.
100% agree with you. Seems like we may have basically the ActMan 2.0 sh1t pretty soon... he says he's very concerned about victim's livelihood and then what's the next thing he does? He jumps on the same bandwagon with ppl like keemstar and other mr.Beast's shills and proceeds to basically destroy the entire credibility of one of the few (probably two) people who had balls to call Mr.brast out and fight for the actual victims... he's just a coward who (mostly when it comes to this particular situation) only cares about future of HIS OWN career... just listen what and how he says this at the beginning of this video... Tbh I just can't believe he just did the same thing ppl like keemstar did...
_"Did you want him to say blatantly to take it with a grain of salt?"_ How about not say anything at all? Throwing out such unverified hearsay out into the wild like that is dangerous, and it can put him at risk of legal retaliation (no, saying "allegedly" is not a get out of jail free card)
If the claim is bound to be inaccurate, which he knew based off of having no proper information, then yea he should have said take it with a grain of salt
he isnt defending mrbeasts hes ripping into dogpack for messing up a genuinely serious case and its credibility for real peoplw who were affected as he said for him it may just be an ego thing attesting to this messup
@pocketsizedweeb Amazon's lawyers explaining that if you're gonna treat people like disposable drones then you gotta classify them as contractors and pay them hourly
I legit feel so bad that KSI has been dragged into that horrid category and I don't even watch him. Dude actually used to be chill until Logan came along and they founded Prime, he's completely dragged KSI down to his despicable level and now they bringing Mr. Beast with them.
I will mention that Dogpack has said that he has sent many people with abuse allegations to journalists and other sources better than him because he knows that he doesn't have the resources or ability to help them, which kind of gives me the impression that he isn't doing it for clout. He's mentioned that he went back and forth on releasing that third video, and I suspect he did it in part because he had said he would release a third that would include information about particular people (like James Warren). It was definitely more scattered than the other two (and had the James Warren comment problem). I get the impression from some of his interviews that at one point he was overwhelmed by the amount of people coming forward with sexual abuse, which he wisely didn't pursue himself.
Dogpack being careful and calculated in releasing what he does is commendable. People saying “oh, he should just let it all out in one go” are thankfully not the ones in his shoes. The entire thing would’ve been squashed like a bug, victims end in a worse place, and whoever tries something like this to expose massive fraud and corruption would be silenced much easier.
People are missing this point.. he was wise handing the case and more serious allegations to more profissional people that know their stuff and work on the field.. he even said that...instead they act like It was mishandling of his part.. i think he don't thought there would be so many people coming forward(and so many new things) and he eventually got to know there was gonna be a lawsuit and serious law involved and left It to be done by more capable hands at the rightful time .. People follow bread and dramatubes.. and when real people do their stuff right they treat him like a Tool/fraud... Shame on Tom and others that are glazing beast's and treating/portraiting BJ like a crazy woman with no ethics .. both BJ and Dogpack are seeing more and more like legitimate awesome/good people and Oreo,tom etc just seens like fools/glazers with no real wisdom.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
Did Dawson (Dogpack) fuck up? -Yes Was he held accountable by his critics, fans and peers alike? -Yes Did he retract his incorrect statements? -Yes Does this discredit everything else he has brought up? -No I've watched Dawson's interviews with Oompaville, TomDark, Quintheo and TheAsherShow and he seems to coming from a place of geniune care. He has stated that he never intended to take down MrLeast, but to shine a light on the wrongdoings he was made aware of and in this way make the company do better. He also said that he has been forwarding people who come to him to more reputable sources as he recognizes he is not as capable and doesn't have as good of a legal ground to stand on as the big media. I really think you, Nick DeOrio and Dawson should get in a call together and iron things out, no matter if it's to be turned into a video or not.
They won't, especially when oreo boi and mutahar are being hypocritical and biased af. where was this energy when nux and tom fcked up about tyga and pyro. Anyway, dp is busy. I think there are more important stuff to do than talk to RUclipsrs.
Power corrupts. But in the case of Jimmy, he literally read out the dangerous, narcissistic, and sociopathic playbook out a decade plus ago on his own channel and later (more recent years) did it again on several podcasts.
Bro went to the ends of the earth to take down The Completionist (rightfully so) but cherry picks one thing he didn’t agree with from a 3 part series to call someone a grifter who isn’t monetizing his videos, and boils down Mr Beast hiring sex offenders and running obvious scams and is like “yeah, sucks for Mr Beast. Hope he’s good though.”
It's similar with Oompaville, he went on PKA this week and was basically running PR for Mr Beast, downplaying everything and trying to play it off as youtube drama and clout chasing. He also had just received a big box of lunchly and was shilling that too...
The fact that he advertises Lunchly as a healthy alternative, despite the fact that Prime has lead in it, and that feastables is arguably worse then Hershey’s says it all Edit: tf kinda hellspawn happened in the replies
@@serketenglish5963 my guy, everything has lead in it, you're going to find trace amounts in basically everything, the whole point is minimizing it to the best of your ability, which prime did not do, and failed to multiple times
It's funny that stupid influencer like Logan treating electrolyte like the best thing since slice bread, meanwhile real professional athletes like Ronaldo just diss coca cola in front of media and tell them to drink mineral water
Muta blowing up that allegation even though Dogpack said that nothing is confirmed yet and is being looked into. Also Muta: "take everything with a grain of salt" and yet ignores what was actually said.
he wishes dp was PERFECT, PRISTINE when even traditional media get their shit wrong at times. PROFESSIONALS fcking things up. plus dp already clarifies this one in astershow's interview with him. guys probably hasnt heard about the other interviews either corroborating 2.5.
not sure i would go so far as to discredit EVERYTHING dogpack alleged, his error was extreme, but it is foolish to discount everything he has brought up because of it in my opinion. Maybe instead of thinking "I shouldn't believe anything this guy ever says", you might be better of thinking "Well, he is obviously a biased source, so I will take everything he says with a grain of salt", I believe that to be way more conducive to critical thinking instead of going from one extreme to the other, especially when he does bring up allegations that do seem to be a lot more credible, and should be looked into more.
Well sure absolutely. But i do think dogpacks approaching it the wrong way maybe? It's great that he's said all the things he's said its been crucial right, buuut i do think that letting your mouth slip is indicitive of having a poor approach to it in general. Which you know like i could do the same i get it, but it is definitely feedback i'd give to him if i could, but that's just my stance anyhow.
I think it's also wild to discredit everything someone says based off them getting one thing wrong rather than looking at the balance of the person and their creditability. A more reasonable response would be "he's been right about most of the things he's talked about and has provided evidence that others have corroborated, so he's probably telling the truth, but maybe I need more evidence to believe some claims." I think Dawson said in an interview that he made that claim because of things people he trusts who worked at Beast have told him. Now, maybe those sources got it wrong or confused... or they are right, and it just hasn't been proven yet. Maybe it happened in another state, maybe charges were never pressed, maybe it happened when he was a juvenile, etc. There are reasons why charges may not have been found or filed. Just because he isn't THAT James Warren doesn't mean he hasn't hit girlfriends. I find it very difficult to believe that someone who covered for their predator bestie twice is not also a scumbag. Given Mr. Beast's track record, I personally am not inclined to give that company the benefit of the doubt since more and more keeps coming out about them.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
Working with Logan Paul should be immediate grounds for investigation at this point. He's gotten away with so much over the years, it's nuts. And yes, electrolytes are dangerous if too high. It's a "fitness" culture myth that you have to increase them all the time.
Average chronically online overreaction, your not saying Gatorade is bad for you tho 😂, no kid is going to down enough prime to end up with an electrolyte imbalance
I don’t think dogpack credibility is gone at all. He slipped up on one thing cause there’s a bunch of dudes who beat their gfs. It sounded like everything else he brings up is good. He even came out and said he made a mistake.
Exactly, I don’t like how Muta is just like “can’t believe anything you say now!” Several beast employees confirmed the abuse allegations, which is what Dogpack said, that’s what allegedly means, which sleep-deprived Muta is missing. 🤦♂️
@@_..-.._..-.._ not just him people call those who think his credibility isn't dead as delusional and lol we still have people trust in people like tom and asmon, like asmon recently just got caught spreading false allegations. Will muta make a video about that? Probably not. As he didn't make one for nux like he didn't for tom. So many news sights Fuck up and people still trust them. They want dp to he some sort of god, perfect, and I'm like wtf this isn't a movie.
It's wild that you were one of the people to clown Rosanna, who was 1 of the first people to come fwd about MrBeast's lies/cheating, only for it to appear that she was right the entire time.... Not a good look.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw no proof or evidence is one thing. clowning on the person making these claims is another. You really think its justified? most of th evidence about her claims was out there in the internet for everyone to see anyway.
"exploiting *children " 😬 The family is some weird operation paperclip dark mirror demons that target children. Hope someone with integrity in law enforcement investigates them and the islands they own.
@@grimgrahamch.4157is it still considered drama if there’s actual crimes being (allegedly)committed? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I genuinely want to know
Bold to assume the majority of people have critical thinking skills. In my experience, the majority of people see a door close by itself and immediately assume their house is haunted.
Bold to assume the majority of people have critical thinking skills. In my experience, the majority of people see a door close by itself and immediately assume their house is haunted.
Question: If you'll criticize dogpack harshly for spreading misinformation, why don't you do the same with NuxTaku?. He's someone you associate with, and he's done the same thing and arguable worse as he has ruined someone's carrier over false allegations and won't even give a proper apology too. Why is there a double standard?.
I'm glad the public is finally seeing how predatory Jimmy's business practices are. From fake lotteries and false advertising, to horrific working conditions and very questionable staff hires. What he does in his philanthropic work is admirable. However, that does not give him a free pass to do whatever he wants.
His "philanthropic work" is all smoke and mirrors to get more eyes on his content. Also donations are a tax write off, so he's also doing it to save his business money. He's no saint and I'm tired of people treating him like one. In reality he's very similar to Elon in a sense.
I love how every single parody video portrayed him as an insane masochistic psychopath bent on doing anything for views. It's like they knew all along they just hid the truth under "parody". Mostly because the few who did speak out against him were publicly shunned
Mismanagement of business, especially targeted towards a younger audience is never acceptable. However, an investigation without concrete evidence can cause further damage. It's vital to have all the facts before making accusations.
Mr. Beast getting sued, Nikocado revealed to be skinny, the complete reputational collapse of P. Diddy. What’s next, Sam Pepper and Onision GamerSupps flavors?
What reputation collapse? Can't lose what you never had, the only thing that changed is that the charges finally stuck now. Biggie Smalls Biggie Smalls Biggie Smalls
@@Mordecrox P. Diddy was never a model citizen but most of the stuff that is NOW known about him wasn’t on the public radar. Prior to a few years back, no one batted an eye to Diddy anymore than someone like Charlie Sheen, Jared Leto or Jared from Subway PRIOR to 2015/16. They were just kind of off-people until their big things came out and the public fully realizes what they do in the dark. I’m not saying any one of these cases are as bad as the others, just that the public opinion was VERY different than the reality of their person.
not really. there was one instance of him pointing out a blatantly false accusation and him very strongly going against pretty much everything Mr. Beast has done throughout the rest of the video. literally rallying against him because of what it might do to the credibility of other youtubers. also having nuance and saying we don't have all the details yet is not taking someone's side, it is the actual fact of the current situation, not getting washed into a hate mob is not the same as supporting someone. it is very likely Mr. beast is an awful person who is massively exploitative, but assuming every allegation is true could implicate you for things like libel. and is also just poor practice, I am more concerned about him simping for amazon personally.
then he shouldn't have said it. that is the whole argument he said something without proof. that is dumb especially with such heavy allegations. you are allowing the point to fly over your head.
So he did have a retraction? Saying that undoes all of the other evidence he has put forward is kind of a bad take. Dogpack posting the wrong info is a big issue, he needs to fix that video up asap. It does seem llike he's trying to do the right thing in the long run. Mr Beast and crew do need to be held accountable for all of the actions and damages that they have caused, and the way that he has been protected, and has tried to say nothing is extremely disgraceful. Everything about him is a sham. If you let your kids watch him at this point, you are not a fit parent imo.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@logandarnell8946 he was leaked to be apart of group chats with keemstar & mr beast, putting people down and making fun of people who argued against Mr. Beast. he's a part of them. that's why he acted so weird about this.
Muta mentions dogpack and his focus was that he mentioned allegations and stated he wasnt sure abt them and then it wasnt correct. And didnt mention the guy who was more or less confirmed to SA people and his moving around of that said guy around the company. Just like when he laughed at that female contestant during the hide and seek challenge. I dont see how someone credibility is lossed when they present something and explicitly state they are not sure. Seems Muta is lacking critical thinking.
Or how James was involved in Ponzi schemes. Or how he calls him a criminal and not specifically a pedo. Or all the other employees who’ve come forward with sexism/racisim/war crimes/mistreatment. Yeah he messed that one specific part up it doesn’t discredit everything else he’s done.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
honestly L take on dogpack, theres a reason why he uses "allegedly" not saying its for sure. If Dogpack had never made that video in the first place we wouldnt have known any of that or even if he had taken few weeks more, I think the spotlight or the number people interested in these allegations would have died down. Feels like youre trying to defend MrBeast at the beginning, making yourself a target for hated online when everyone rn is hating those 3 assholes.
If you just "allegedly" your way out of any kind of BS you wanted to make up, that invalidates the entire point of this kind of journalism in the first place. Could just spam all celebrities with all kind of allegations constantly and eventually you'll be right and you can claim your Pulitzer, right?
Wasn't Prime being sued over trying to cancelled orders of bottles of prime and breach of contract? I can't help thinking this is partly a cunning way to offload a load of Prime bottles to try and get out of the case....
@@orlandocruzlopez3536 That's what I vaguely remember - so when I first heard about the whole Lunchly thing, all I could think was this was just a way to get rid of more bottles of Prime.
Muta, what’s the complaint here with Dogpack? First you said he should have issued a retraction, then you read out his retraction. And are you seriously saying that you’ve literally never gotten something wrong? That you’ve never said something that proved to be incorrect?
Exactly! I don't know why muta is acting so high and mighty like he's never done the same thing, So by his logic anything muta says in the future should be discredited
I feel like the gut punch you mentioned doesn't hold much weight when dogpack himself has been saying that it was allegations and I'm not sure about it. I don't think this ruined his credibility as he did make pretty clear that this could be a misunderstanding in the video and that shouldn't be taken from the context of finding out the rerport. And even then, he said that he should have waited for a full report on the topic which I can also agree with, but shouldn't be something that's held against him as he made it clear it's a big allegation. But am I wrong in that assessment?
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
no, bad move sure but literal professionals have done worse and got people KILLED. it's good that he was the one to clarify it and hope he learns from that. has also added additional stuff in theastershow and oompaville interviews. now he's being invited to a talk with piers morgan.
@@hqzdn0032 Then this guy is also a liar. When Rosanna started talking about Jimmy's lies and scams, SomeOrdinaryGamers started CLOWNING on her (that's right. Making fun of her, not just saying she isn't reliable). Yet it comes out that everything she said is true as we can see in the ongoing lawsuit (which, you need some evidence to file a lawsuit. You don't just go to the judge and say "I think this guy is bad"). So SomeOrdinaryGamers also lost all credibility, because he mad fun of the person that was right all along, and didn't address this even once. Meanwhile dogpack clarified on twitter everything.
@@spookyclaws5350 so he did that huh, true never heard him bring up an apology about rossana, at least pegasus did for rosanna despite criticizing dp in the latest video. Also saw a comment saying mutahar defended a person who did dv? I don't know about that but he has never spoken against his FRIENDS nux and tom fcking over tyga and pyro calling them pedo and groomer and till this day never owning up to their mistake. Did he made a a video about that? Yeah no.
Yeah, but YT didn't need to wagon circle and create a huge smokescreen for Dr. D like they are for Kris so they can quietly memory hole the whole thing. Funny how every big RUclipsr you know is more concerned with seeing Jimmy's career and reputation ruined as opposed to holding Kris accountable. This isn't even the 1st time YT has thrown their Golden Goose under the bus to appease the mob, or did everyone forget what happened with PewDiePie already?
Yeah but his point is that by doing that you become less trustworthy (as well as the fact it’s humiliating), not only that it gives people an excuse to dismiss your other claims even if they’re right.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors He also clowned on Rosanna when she came out with the lies and overall bad things MrBeast did, treating her as a joke. Turns out she was right all along and things are coming to the surface. He's so quick to move from side to the other, depending on which is deemed right by the audience.
@@ry1023.3 you're being gullible. Professional News fck up too but people still see them as credible. Heck tom fcked up about pyro yet people still like him.
I'm going to be honest about my opinion here. I feel like the Dogpack, James warren thing is the most BS thing. If I didn'[t know better, I would think people calling dogpack out for this were just drama farming. I don't think Mutahar drama farms but it is such a stupid argument. He literally made it apparent that it wasn't confirmed DV charges, he said it was still being looked into, and yet people still think he made this major mistake. I've said this 1000 times now and I'll say it again. YOU DON'T NEED THE RUclipsR TO DO THE THINKING FOR YOU USE YOUR OWN BRAIN. I will hold merit to dogpack being a sloppy journalist. He clearly isn't the best suited for this, and he him self admits that. I also think that most of the claims can't be 100% trusted by multiple channels covering Mr Beast since you don't know who it's coming from. I respect peoples privacy, but at the same time it's that privacy that makes testimony untrust worthy. I have hundreds of takes and I think people on all sides of the fence would point guns at me for them, but I am running out of the will to repate them when more and more videos come out from people who are either blindly agreeing, or ignorantly ignoring different information provided.
I agree. The tweet shows at 6:50 says this "eviscerates Dogpack's credibility" which is BS as the claims in his first 2 videos are backed up especially the whole thing with Jake Weddle being tortured by the Mr. Beast crew...
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
I agree that he messed up by not vetting correctly, but saying he's completely "uncreditable" seems like an overreaction. It'd be exactly like saying when Mathar makes a mistake when speaking by saying one word but meaning another makes him uncreditable. It really is an overreaction. But then again, people on X will take anything to make the "big time" in drama on a platform abandoned by people with common sense.
Mr. Beasts behavior is unacceptable. He needs to be punished, civily and criminally. No more slaps on the hand for rich guys exploiting people. We need justice and we need it now
@@YurinanAcquiline well news reports got people killed in my country. Professionals aren't perfect. Some just never loose their credibility because just like jimmy, they keep quiet about it.
Muta, I think its a bit unfair to claim Dogpack is just having an egotrip or not actually trying to do the right thing because he was wrong *once*. It's fair if he's less credible because of one mistake, but this is not equivalent to the Mamamax situation, dogpack owned up to being wrong and I think it's very disingenuous of you to start treating him as if he's on the same level as that guy.
Well, DogPack has done a great job and I think you're nitpicking a little that he made one fuck up during the whole release of evidence. It did seem a LITTLE overboard to say anything at all about the domestic violence charges without 100% proof, but that means very little when applied to the rest of the evidence. I think you're being a little too hard on DogPack.
he also was a bit disingenuous calling that a core facet of dogpack's video and then cutting out the context. That like 30s part was a complete throwaway and dogpack makes sure to clarify that it all was based off testimony from ex employees and that the only reason he's talking about it is so more information could come to light if people had it (which is what happened after the jake weddle interview). Definitely still a mistake to put it in, but I don't think it really hurts his credibility as much as people want it to - especially since he was pretty public about fixing it once he determined it wasn't true.
@@Katatonya I'm sure you won't enlighten me, but I'm absolutely 100% open to hearing any criticism on this. I'm absolutely the type of person to change my mind when hearing better or newer evidence... but in case you are in the mood to tell me about them... I'm here and I'm reading.
@@spuds3689 You can't be "sure" about me not enlightening you and also "100%" open to trying me to convince you. Either way sorry I long forgot the details. I'm not this invested in this to remember everything. I just shared what my impressions were at the time of watching Dog's video. Since this seems like the first time you saw any inconsistencies in his story, when Mutahar points it out for you, then you definitely missed the rest of them, if they existed. Now in my opinion they did but I don't remember specifics.
Honestly, if the lawsuit from Logan against Coffee turns out to be a loss on Logan (which I ultimately believe it will, since as far as I am aware, the guy has no defense to back up his own claims) or if he retracts the lawsuit, RUclips should take a stance on that. Bullying a smaller channel just because your feelings are hurt, and using the judicial system to properly threat a fellow employee shouldn't be allowed on the platform, because allowing the man to engage in this behaviour in this platform is similar to endorsing it, in my opinion, obviously.
You think RUclips cares? This is the same company that protected Sssniperwolf and is spending millions of dollars on beating ad blocks instead of just improving their ad system. RUclips/Google is just as scummy as their worst creators.
what do you mean you were waiting for the answer on if he was scamming kids???? are you with him too??? it was clear as day he was scamming kids for views if you actually saw dogpacks video...
I was on a Mr. Beast challenge once. It was the one where we had to hide for 10 hours in a mall. Ill never forget spending 7 hours with no food, through the night, incredibly uncomfortable hiding in a small space that made my legs go numb every 10 minutes. All of that for him to use infared drones and a SWAT team to get me and everyone else in the area out in the last hours in a game of HIDE AND SEEK. He then gave them the money in front of us. Thanks Jimmy! 😁
9 minutes total addressing the lawsuit... not sure why but DogPack got like 8 minutes of time in this video.. then lunchly got like 7 minutes of time also not related to the lawsuit....
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@hqzdn0032 this video is titled "Mr Beast is getting sued" NONE of DogPack's allegations are related to the lawsuit AT ALL. LUNCHLY is NOT related to the lawsuit AT ALL. This is my point.
@@hqzdn0032 the fact that you keep copypastaing this into various comments is "stucky proof" that you're either a MrBeast comment bot or a troll farming for arguments lmao what does "stucky proof" even mean, that sounds like some little kid speak.
I personally think that if he quit now its because he's a shit friend. You don't abandon your friends as soon as the getting gets hard. But im pretty sure he hasn't entirely quit
@@Loneadmin If your friends seem to have no problem treating their workers like dogshit and exploiting children for money, then you absolutely should abandon them. How could you, in good conscience, be friends with a person who acts like that?
Brillant idea by MrBeast, work with a person is suing a journalist for asking questions not to mention the Crypto stuff like dink doink, CryptoZoo, and much more.
Selling merch is pretty tame compared to Lunchly because if you’re buying a shirt you know you’re getting a shirt. People aren’t claiming the shirt has health benefits.
As a massive That Surprise Witness supporter, I’d just like to say, BJ, that’s the name she goes by, is about her business and is not a tea channel. She’s a former attorney turned investigative journalist/reporter.
Not gonna lie, the way he casually dismissed her as a tea channel came off a little bit sexist to me. Even if you disagree with that take, it's like he did no research and made assumptions. Which is a little ironic considering it was in a middle of a rant about people needing to do research.
@@JusteFantastico "casually dismissed her as a tea channel came off ... sexist.." Really! I had never heard of this girl so yeah unfortunately I assumed she was just a tea channel. How disappointing to have some youtuber diminish your accomplishments to calling you a tea channel 🤦♀It takes like seven years to become a lawyer right?
About the last comment, I guess I am one of those kids. I’ve watched his stuff for years now, genuinely thinking he was a good guy. Ever since the release of feastables chocolate, I began seeing him as someone who was “selling out” per se. And then after the curtain was pulled about Ava Chris Tyson, I completely 180’ed from how I saw Mr. Beast. This really is sad stuff. I hope we don’t get another adpocalypse of sorts. My heart goes out to the people who were in the beast games, who knows what they had to go through in there.
So did Al Capone. Surprised no one has made an entire video on the tax fraud, both state and federal, committed by Mr. Beast, LLC on the Nevada set of Beast Games.
Well... a good lawyer is how OJ got off. Mr. Beast hasn’t even killed yet (to my knowledge.) And he will have just as good lawyer... he just has to play the race card, wear black face to court.
worst thing is, he probably is. There is no way youtube will do anything and his main audience is children who don't know/care/understand what's so wrong about all this. Capitalism doesn't care about people, even children. With enough money there are mostly no serious consequences to your actions
But he is. Rich people are more untouchable than the noble of old. They can buy judges, they can buy anything. The Epstein list leaked but it was swapped under the rug. Billionaires are untouchable. While they exist, we will never be equal under the law. I am not a communist or anything, I just think that everyone is corruptible if they get that amount of money. I think billionaires should be taxed out of existence.
Another thing Mr beast has covered up in all this drama he used have ethic labor for his chocolate but no longer has the same thing saying or proof he uses non-ethic labor (child and slaves) for his chocolate it so disgusting and disappointing
Dogpack didn't say that That Suprise Witness was his source. He clearly showed a text from somebody, probably a Mr. Beast Employee, alleging that James Warren is a wife beater. Dogpack then said that it wasn't confirmed, that the cases may be different people, and that he was having TSW look into it. Please retract your demand for a retraction.
Yeah, and also kind of sounds like he is defending MrBeast doesn’t it Like he’s all that discrediting DogPack and DogPack specifically said “I don’t know about this for sure” “Allegedly” I don’t know if this is THE James Warren. He specifically said allegedly. And then Muta is saying that Jimmy is doing what he supposed to do by not saying anything That made me look at Muta. Crazy. Almost like him, and Jimmy are cool
@@surewhynot6259 Nothing he wasn't already going through? Apparently, a shit ton of Mr. Beast employees already suspected that he was a wife beater. The only thing that is different is that he was exposed to the public as Mr. Beast's secret CEO. Dogpack only said that everything was alleged and that the court cases may referring to someone else. If anything, he's better off now than he was before because dogpack had TSW look into it and clear his name.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@surewhynot6259 nothing he wasn't already going through, other than being outed to the public as being Mr. Beast's secret CEO? Apparently, it was already a rumor that James was convicted of DA within the Mr. Beast company and dogpack said that there wasn't any concrete evidence of that. If anything, he's better off now that TSW has cleared his name.
Muta riding the Mr. D Dogpack said multiple times, that you should take the allegations with a grain of salt. Now you are acting as if this disproves 2,5h of other allegations
Honestly I'm more shocked that people bought into his effective altruism for so long. Mr. Beast ALWAYS seemed fake to me because of the forced smile he puts on in all of his thumbnails. Oh well, guess I can just be glad y'all finally caught up lol
@@koutsioj4762I remember a vid from super early beast when he was just at a simple desk talking about money and investing and how excited he was about his vids. That was years ago. I never watched his stuff because I am not 10 but every time I happen to see him the last couple of years I couldn’t help but think about how rigid and cold his posture is. A vacant look.
respond to allegations ❌
release a product with 2 scumbags✅
KSI responded by laughing and going on reddit 🙄
Wait till you see his toys he just released💀💀
only 1 of them is ibr
Is he supposed to say sorry or something
@@kaproskarleto5136 breaking news youtuber starts food business with three others and doesnt care for what another does.
Sniperwolf was proof that RUclips won’t hold their largest creators accountable.
yeah fr he's like what, 10x bigger?
She’s literally stealing content… and she can keep earning money. RUclips is a joke.
@@RennyChan she can literally endanger someone's life (both indirectly and directly in her past) and get away with it
RUclips won't hold a creator accountable UNLESS they start causing their ad partners to withdraw from RUclips. In that case, their channel will go poof almost instantly.
No but the IRS frowns on multi-million dollar fraud, both state and federal. Rather surprising that no one is really paying attention to that since we are talking felonies involving prison time.
I feel like saying “retractions are the most embarrassing thing you can do” is what’s harmful in journalism. Retractions for misinformation should be normal and encouraged, yes try to get things correct the first time but encourage people to put out correct information when mistakes happen
Yes, exactly this! While it's unfortunate that dogpack made a mistake, would Muta have preferred that he double down on it??
It’s embarrassing because a journalist’s one job is to get shit right. They HAVE to take it down and make a retraction because clearly they suck at their job. If they’re encouraged then we can’t trust the news because people can just say whatever the fuck they want and there’s no accountability.
I really wanted him to stfu and move on after a minute. He made his point. We know it. He admitted fault. I was like "did we really need to keep going back to that?" lol
It is though, claiming such crazy claims with a horrible source just spreads misinformation, ruins your credibility and does more harm than good, corrections are definitely embarrassing.
If it was just a small mistake, sure, but this is crazy claims with no backing whatsoever, just a bunch of nonsense he spewed because he was in the mood to do so, so yeah it has to be shamefull in this instance.
Judge: “Mr. Beast, lawsuits can’t be settled by whoever takes their hand off the stand first”
@umuppp-e7ntf you mean translate to English? This is English!
@@Butterscotch_96I think that u ouvre focusing on the wrong problem here
@@Butterscotch_96 it's a bot, don't bother
"Your honor, my defendant claims 'skill issue'."
@@phibu7517 yeah I know
Who knew treating contestants like soulless bodies would have consequences
Hmmm yes what a fascinating conundrum indeed
ur trippin homie. He's obv not a good guy but that ain't true lol
There seems to be a spam bot here already. do not respond to it, just report it
Dude watched Squid Game for the absolute wrong reasons.
He pretty watched it and said, “I’M GONNA RECREATE THIS BECAUSE IT’S TRENDY, I’M THE MOST SUBSCRIBED RUclipsR OF ALL TIME NOW AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME!”
I know this comment is referring to the Amazon show he’s doing, but it’s clear that he’d be one of the villains in Squid Game.
shiii not me, will keep this information in mind 👍
Nah Muta, Dogpack didn't allege that MrBeast held lotteries, that's pretty obvious
He alleged that those lotteries were technicaly illegal
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@hqzdn0032 spamming this reply does not prove your point kid, it's more tiring being desperate for any hope that Mr. Beast can get away with what he did, best to admit you idolized the wrong person
@@afellowhuman8944 you are saying I'm look up to Mr beast but I never say I look up to him. he is just a person and at list I'm not taking someone allegations as fact
@@afellowhuman8944 why are you deleting my comments
@@afellowhuman8944 you are saying I'm look up to Mr beast but I never say anything about looking up to him he is just a person and at least I'm not taking someone allegation as fact
I did not expect that within like 2 month I would go from "I do not care about this dude and his content at all" to "Man I really do not like MrBeast".
Honestly if he works with Logan and ksi there is no doubt in my mind he is a scmbag and deserves to be cancelled. But hey if someone dies at the beast games at least he has buddies who can film the body
Ditto. Working with known scammers makes you one in my book. Smh.
@@Doctor_Glados I mean look at the criminal he worked with, you see him as bad as a scammer, I see him as bad as the guy with the record he knowingly put into contact with kids, when you put potential victims into reach of convicted criminals, you are as bad if not worse than that criminal
welcome to the internet, makes u care about things u really don't care
Same but to me it's more like "glad I don't watch his content".
The fact that DanTDM popped out of nowhere, cooked all 3 of them and refused to elaborate is so funny
ChadTDM
People said that Mr beast would get screwed over once Moistcritikal said something about it, but apparently Jimmy here screwed up so badly, that he skipped 3 entities stages and went on and got into beef with **DANTDM** of all people.
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He’s has a father, the three musketeers have no children of their own
@@pageclayton6850also DadTDM
Yeah the James Warren bit was a mistake but saying Dogpack's credibility is destroyed is absurd imo
It’s tarnished, at the least
Id say its damaged since he jumped the gun and didnt wait for the fact check but everything else seems to be true so i dont think hes ruined. It was irresponsible though but hopefully he will do better in the future
it's not absurd it's about abuse YOU DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH we are talking about peoples lives here we all know how the internet is so do your due diligence.
@@z.r.r4593 that's fine, half of the commentary community is.
@@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery i hope he does do better in the future.
Mr. Beast getting sued, the plot twist of Nikocado Avocado, DanTDM breaking silence over the Lunchly drama... We are truly living in a new era
And happened within the same year.
@@EnaTenkiyoGamerhell, same 3 months lol. It’s insane.
And all before GTA6 lmaooo. I know i know, not a funny joke anymore.
Dantdm is an legend
Nicocado was a genuine anime twist istfg
I've been a long-time fan of MrBeast, but choosing to collaborate with 2 people who are KNOWN for scamming while being EXTREMELY CONTROVERSIAL is just plain stupid.
not the first time he has
I mean due to latest allegations they fit right in
They’re all scammers, all 3 of them
HOW OLD U TO BE A FAN?
I guess you havent seen the other 50 times they have collaborated....
Its not their first time😭
I don't think this is a valid reason to assume Dogpack lied about everything, everyone should always have a healthy dose of skepticism and just weigh what he says against the evidence he provides, but you're wrong in acting as if everything he's claimed shouldn't be believed.
Muta claiming he’s never made a false claim is also really weird. I sense some subconscious projection from that whole spiel, and maybe a hint of jealousy about the “new wave.”
Fr he made one mistake
He said it was alleged and that there’s a lot of people with the same name
Once it was confirmed to not be the guy he retracted the statement
This is…weird for Muta
@@warlordofbritanniaabsolutely. That part was straight silly and smooth brained
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@Luvs2spwge-xu6rd yeah, 100% agreed. this video was super weird. also the only thing retracted is the CHARGES but not the dv part. kinda funny after he says "have critical thinking" and here we are he doesn't.
$1 apology video versus $1.000.000 apology video
He’ll take notes from his business partner logan paul
Ukulele apology 😂
Few more years we'll get the "mr beast Island"
@@he8535 and total drama island was supposed to be a parody of reality tv and stupid survival show and somehow it seems rl has gone "hold my beer"
I need to see this video here
- He covered up the fact that his friend is a predator while making that friend one of the primary figures on his channel that he knows has a target audience of children.
- He allegedly hired, employed, and paid offenders / felons to work within his company as well as move those types of people around between his other companies when they caused problems instead of firing them.
- He mistreats people that take part in his ”win money challenges,” as well as taking no safety precautions to the point where many people have had to go to the hospital both in the past and recently, and they are forced to sign an agreement before taking part in the challenge that states that they aren’t allowed to tell anyone anything nor sue Mr. Beast for the damages he causes to them.
- He faked most of his videos and lied to everyone straight to their faces by claiming that everything is 100% real on multiple interviews when they aren't.
- And in the midst of all of this, he decides it’d be a good idea to team up with one of the most well-known scam RUclipsrs ever who would sell his own audience off if he was given a good enough offer, as well as another RUclipsr who has such a big ego that if he fell off his high horse, he’d fall from the clouds, to make an unhealthy lunchbox that they market specifically towards children, and as a bonus, they decide to attack / harass DanTDM when he spoke out against them, and Dan is one of the oldest and most well-respected RUclipsrs ever.
And that’s not even all of it.
I wonder what he does next...
I mean you can hate on him for everything but one thing if someone's a felon that means they pay their debts to society and they deserve a second chance not a third or fourth but they do deserve a second chance.
Seems like he always has like that! Also he tried to scam His fans with Crypto in the pasta, he has only stoped because His manager though It wouldn't look good for him!
@@hexxinthat would fly normal circumstances however, the main issue is a few of these offenders charged because they were under age why is that important?
Because beast is children’s entertainer
b-b-but!! he built homes!! and watah!!
@@hexxin As a felon myself, you do not deserve a second chance until years later AFTER you pay your debts and build up trust again. Even then, if you're a sex offender, you don't deserve a second chance in the slightest. Who TF hires those kinds of people TO WORK WITH KIDS?? ARE YOU REGARDED?
Sorry Mutah, but as a "normal, critical thinking" person I'm not going to immediately disbelieve everything that Dogpack says because he made a fuckup. It was alleged, he even tweeted out that he wasn't actually using That Surprise Witness as a prime source when he went into Twitter beef with your bro Nick Deorio, and he actively apologized and made a point to correct the narrative, something many drama RUclipsrs refuse to do. It's insane how immediate the popular Drama RUclipsr clique turned on Dogpack, despite this misstep not even being remotely as bad as they make it out to be. Should that vid have been posted? No. Was it a mistake? Yes. Is it damning against any other claim ledged by Dogpack? No. Nick's been salivating for a gotcha against Dogpack since day 1, don't get roped in by his thirsty ass
Nick de Fatrio is just projecting hard lmao. Didn’t he leave RUclips because he fumbled his research so hard and got so much hate
Are people actually shitting on dogpack for ONE screw up? Like yeah, that's bad, but it's not NEARLY enough to discredit every other claim he's made. Now if something came out agaist his primary sources? Yeah then he's toast
Yeah muta is lmao@@raghnall847
@@raghnall847
as someone who has never seen him before, one major screw up like that IS enough to make me never watch him. "I'm gonna post a video making allegations based purely on rumors and guesses!" woo! good for you, ima toss you in with the twitter and tick tock users
@@raghnall847
i mean when someone claims to be supporting or striving to find the truth in a matter, only to promote ideas that they cannot prove, they've basically killed off whatever credibility they had, completely of their own accord, for no reason whatsoever, making them unreliable
It's concerning to see the disparities between what is marketed and the real facts. The selling of health products to impressionable youngsters needs stricter regulations and actual scientific backing.
"Health products" is the exact opposite of what was being handed out to kid's. "Health products" makes it seem like a good thing for the body.
Tbf I don't think any of the three stooges are claiming it's health food
Just that it's healthier than what they're competing against, lunchables, which is still a questionable claim since it comes with prime and feastables lmao
Lobbying money says otherwise.
Regulation will only change if theres a huge health crisis over it.
all ads targeted towards kids should be banned. all medical ads banned. all recreational drugs ADS* banned. Woah writing laws is so hard!
edit: recreational drug ads, not drugs
Youngsters need to respect their Parents, or Youngsters need better Parents. one of these two are not like the other. However both of these are true.
it’s funny that one of their selling points is “ better flavors” yet all their flavors are a carbon copy of what lunchables has to offer
Their products were tested already. They actually are *slightly* healthier than normal lunchables as well as having slightly more calories(more food). That being said, as a snack, it still pretty unhealthy when compared to the multitude of snacks that are available to eat.
@@Unchainedful lunchly actually has less calories than lunchables, thats what they're advertising at least. 13:37
@@Monicat03which, assuming its FOR LUNCH, could be a bad thing. Little timmy needs good healthy food, and although an apple is healthy, there isn't quite enough "food" there. And lets add prime in those stupid things, surely that won't push the kids into a frenzy "isn't prime also REALLY bad for them?"
@@Unchainedfulshitty vs slightly less shitty
all fake as well most candy be better for you so nothing about lunch
Why does he ignore the rest of dogpacks video where he talks about Latoya Hills?
Cause it doesn’t fit the lying narrative that he wanted to do in this video
because it had nothing to do with the video. also luvs2, that is a very chronically online take. you should chill out for a bit. maybe think about the "narrative" you are alleging for a second and compare it to the entire rest of the video.
@@logandarnell8946 it does have something to do with the video?? He went through one part of that video that was a mistake that he said was alleged, and ignored the true confirmed part of the video.
I still watch Muta but this video was kinda a miss due to ignoring stuff
it's because he's friends with keemstar and mr.beast. it was leaked on twitter.
Gonna go from MrBeast to MrLeast after he loses the case
mrlost
Who would have thought that the fake smile was hiding something.
Mr.yeast
Mr. L
MrPiss
Everyone is focusing on the James Warren part, but just because Dogpack got one thing wrong doesn't invalidate everything else he's brought forward
That and Trey Yates on the Asher show confirmed James Warren.
It does however call into question all of his “alleged” claims. There’s already enough proven stuff to destroy Mr beasts reputation, but it showed that dog pack is willing to throw allegations without verification.
@FaticusDolphinius that's why they're "allegations" to begin with, silly
@@revenger211 you can’t do that in investigative journalism. Especially on RUclips as people will just immediately believe it.
I haven't believed Dogpack since he showed up on Ludwig's stream and couldn't answer a single question that Ludwig posed and his pompous attitude. Literally the questions Ludwig asked were completely unrelated to his time working for Mr. Beast and the only response being the equivalent of "you work for the enemy"
Ironically enough I think Muta made the same cardinal sin as DogPack in dismissing his video so easily.
Might be worse lol.
it's because he's friends with keemstar and mr.beast. it was leaked on twitter.
Mr. Beast and other creators making products to sell to their audiences isn't wrong in itself, the issue lies in honest and ethical advertising and business practices.
They know they can't dominate the existing market with honesty, that's why they spew all these lies about a "healthy alternative". It's so crazy.
Yup, nobody got mad like this when Prime released. Because they weren't like "Kids you NEED to buy this, gatorade is mid! Prime is way healthier than x product". They advertised it as it is, without this huge "it's the healthiest thing out there" branding. If you want to attack a leading market giant like that, then you better make sure your product is exactly what's advertised. Parents pick up on this whole "Lunchly is healthy!" thing because they actually read the package. Why would my kid, who runs around all day, need LESS calories? And why is a drink with dipotassium phosphate and other added chemicals, that are linked to health problems (kidney related), better than a Caprisun that is just fruit juice with a bit of sugar?
Also, lunchly is DOUBLE the price of lunchable. You could legit go to mcdonalds and get your kid a happy meal, which they would be way happier with, for the same price you'd get a lunchable. Neither are healthy, but at least mcdonalds offers them more joy, and it's a bigger quantity.
So true
As people who seem to have the most wide-eyed and impressionable audiences I always wonder why they do this, they would still sell millions just on their personal brand recognition anyways imo
@@shydrebecause they want hundreds of millions lol
i think we need to stop letting youtubers sell products like food, skincare and finance services. they are not experts in those fields, theyre experts in manipulation. thats a very dangerous slope, especially for kids. we are seeing kids drinking energy drinks, using skincare and wanting to get into crypto at the ripe old ages of like 8-13. thats not right.
While I would never buy anything shilled by anyone on RUclips, kids don't have jobs. If they are buying energy drinks, crypto, and skincare, it's the parents money they are spending. It's the parents job to educate their children to not believe what they see and hear on the internet. That being said, most of the youtubers I watch don't really shill out products. Muta does a few, but I enjoy his content, and I'm not dumb enough to buy anything being sold. RUclips is run by Google, in the United States. They can sell what they want, it's a free country.
RUclips definitely needs to crack down on 3rd party sponsorship, hopefully it weeds out the money grubbers.
@DarkForce2024 you don't have kids right?
It's silly right, "yeah no manipulation isn't a problem kids should just quit being so dumb", i get it its true, kids being smarter would be great, but they aren't and neither are we. It'd be great if more parents did their jobs, it'd be great if kids could be protected, but the fact does still stand, metaphorically, if there's a bad guy, don't it make sense to take him out? Squabbling about how "errm actually its the kids/parents fault for being abused" is a bad take i think.
I dont like logan paul but the prime drinks dont taste bad and they're absolutely too strong for kids. They're really addicting, same as any other energy drink. Ive been getting them on sale though since HIS lawsuit 😂 50 cents a can, free microplastics
What little world is Mutahar living in? That's literally his ONLY bad point from what I've seen and while he does make serious allegations, he LITERALLY makes sure to notify the audience that there are numerous people with that name amongst other things. Did you want him to say blatantly to take it with a grain of salt?
Everything else is blatantly and utterly true. One is literally an eye witness testimony. The first video shows ample valid evidence that Beast takes advantage of kids and promotes bad behavior. His third video gives ample evidence for his accusations against the main guy he put in the thumbnail. He also has verified employee testimonials which is a journalist org would run since they've verified the source.
But he screws up a part of one video while being transparent that he could be wrong and that negates everything else.
L take.
100% agree with you. Seems like we may have basically the ActMan 2.0 sh1t pretty soon... he says he's very concerned about victim's livelihood and then what's the next thing he does? He jumps on the same bandwagon with ppl like keemstar and other mr.Beast's shills and proceeds to basically destroy the entire credibility of one of the few (probably two) people who had balls to call Mr.brast out and fight for the actual victims... he's just a coward who (mostly when it comes to this particular situation) only cares about future of HIS OWN career... just listen what and how he says this at the beginning of this video...
Tbh I just can't believe he just did the same thing ppl like keemstar did...
_"Did you want him to say blatantly to take it with a grain of salt?"_
How about not say anything at all? Throwing out such unverified hearsay out into the wild like that is dangerous, and it can put him at risk of legal retaliation (no, saying "allegedly" is not a get out of jail free card)
If the claim is bound to be inaccurate, which he knew based off of having no proper information, then yea he should have said take it with a grain of salt
he isnt defending mrbeasts
hes ripping into dogpack for messing up a genuinely serious case and its credibility for real peoplw who were affected
as he said for him it may just be an ego thing attesting to this messup
@@muksimulmaad7413 maybe he should give the same energy to nux and tom then and other professionals who fck people over wrong info.
Hes not even trying to hide his evil anymore, partnering with the other most insufferable "influencers" ever, making up the three horsemen of greed
don't forget Amazon, so the big 4 have arrived!
@@pocketsizedweeb
All we’re missing is Apple and Disney
@pocketsizedweeb Amazon's lawyers explaining that if you're gonna treat people like disposable drones then you gotta classify them as contractors and pay them hourly
I legit feel so bad that KSI has been dragged into that horrid category and I don't even watch him.
Dude actually used to be chill until Logan came along and they founded Prime, he's completely dragged KSI down to his despicable level and now they bringing Mr. Beast with them.
I'm starting to call them YTs stooges, or Ed, Edd, and Eddie. Always looking to make a quick buck
I will mention that Dogpack has said that he has sent many people with abuse allegations to journalists and other sources better than him because he knows that he doesn't have the resources or ability to help them, which kind of gives me the impression that he isn't doing it for clout. He's mentioned that he went back and forth on releasing that third video, and I suspect he did it in part because he had said he would release a third that would include information about particular people (like James Warren). It was definitely more scattered than the other two (and had the James Warren comment problem). I get the impression from some of his interviews that at one point he was overwhelmed by the amount of people coming forward with sexual abuse, which he wisely didn't pursue himself.
Dogpack being careful and calculated in releasing what he does is commendable. People saying “oh, he should just let it all out in one go” are thankfully not the ones in his shoes. The entire thing would’ve been squashed like a bug, victims end in a worse place, and whoever tries something like this to expose massive fraud and corruption would be silenced much easier.
People are missing this point.. he was wise handing the case and more serious allegations to more profissional people that know their stuff and work on the field.. he even said that...instead they act like It was mishandling of his part.. i think he don't thought there would be so many people coming forward(and so many new things) and he eventually got to know there was gonna be a lawsuit and serious law involved and left It to be done by more capable hands at the rightful time .. People follow bread and dramatubes.. and when real people do their stuff right they treat him like a Tool/fraud... Shame on Tom and others that are glazing beast's and treating/portraiting BJ like a crazy woman with no ethics .. both BJ and Dogpack are seeing more and more like legitimate awesome/good people and Oreo,tom etc just seens like fools/glazers with no real wisdom.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@AureliOnYT tom and oreo boi are too busy normalizing and defending cheating lol. they just dug their own grave recently.
Did Dawson (Dogpack) fuck up?
-Yes
Was he held accountable by his critics, fans and peers alike?
-Yes
Did he retract his incorrect statements?
-Yes
Does this discredit everything else he has brought up?
-No
I've watched Dawson's interviews with Oompaville, TomDark, Quintheo and TheAsherShow and he seems to coming from a place of geniune care.
He has stated that he never intended to take down MrLeast, but to shine a light on the wrongdoings he was made aware of and in this way make the company do better.
He also said that he has been forwarding people who come to him to more reputable sources as he recognizes he is not as capable and doesn't have as good of a legal ground to stand on as the big media.
I really think you, Nick DeOrio and Dawson should get in a call together and iron things out, no matter if it's to be turned into a video or not.
They won't, especially when oreo boi and mutahar are being hypocritical and biased af. where was this energy when nux and tom fcked up about tyga and pyro.
Anyway, dp is busy. I think there are more important stuff to do than talk to RUclipsrs.
Did you even watch his p̶u̶f̶f̶ p̶i̶e̶c̶e̶ interview with Oompaville? He literally said that he just threw in a bunch of office rumors!
it's because he's friends with keemstar and mr.beast. it was leaked on twitter
RUclipsrs becoming peds and being greedy is way too common these days.
@umuppp-e7nBreathe less
Power corrupts. But in the case of Jimmy, he literally read out the dangerous, narcissistic, and sociopathic playbook out a decade plus ago on his own channel and later (more recent years) did it again on several podcasts.
No one gets the kind of riches Jimmy has without stepping on others
Didnt he say something about selling slaves
@@jamiehughes5573 What?
dude has the same soulless smile in every fucking photo
He's like ron desantis they do not know how to smile like a human being
His eyes too…
They look dead.
He doesn't smile. He literally just shows his teeth.
He gave me the creeps once he popped up on RUclips.
@@infiniteeventuality6201Everyone says the same about me. The facial expression thing is very hard for some people. It just doesn't come naturally.
Bro went to the ends of the earth to take down The Completionist (rightfully so) but cherry picks one thing he didn’t agree with from a 3 part series to call someone a grifter who isn’t monetizing his videos, and boils down Mr Beast hiring sex offenders and running obvious scams and is like “yeah, sucks for Mr Beast. Hope he’s good though.”
Yes. This is honestly a weird video from Mutahar.
@@YurinanAcquiline 1$ bribed youtuber vs 1,000,000$ bribed youtuber
It's similar with Oompaville, he went on PKA this week and was basically running PR for Mr Beast, downplaying everything and trying to play it off as youtube drama and clout chasing. He also had just received a big box of lunchly and was shilling that too...
@@captainweekend5276 he wasnt shilling it he literally was questioning why he was sent it while in the video he was shitting on the lanch
@@captainweekend5276 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of him
The fact that he advertises Lunchly as a healthy alternative, despite the fact that Prime has lead in it, and that feastables is arguably worse then Hershey’s says it all
Edit: tf kinda hellspawn happened in the replies
Capitalists try not to give people lead poisoning challenge impossible
Lunchables has lead in it too, but not nearly as much as a PRIME.
@@serketenglish5963 my guy, everything has lead in it, you're going to find trace amounts in basically everything, the whole point is minimizing it to the best of your ability, which prime did not do, and failed to multiple times
People in the uk call this the “Healthiest American meal”
@@14483OYK chill, I would rather eat fish all day but I don't want mercury poisoning
We now live in the movie Idiocracy...... Logan Paul keeps saying "But it has electrolytes." But it has electrolytes. But it has electrolytes.
So does table salt. Just eat that.
It's what kids crave bro
@@Unit014 lol 😂
I mean, it is what plants crave
It's funny that stupid influencer like Logan treating electrolyte like the best thing since slice bread, meanwhile real professional athletes like Ronaldo just diss coca cola in front of media and tell them to drink mineral water
Muta blowing up that allegation even though Dogpack said that nothing is confirmed yet and is being looked into. Also Muta: "take everything with a grain of salt" and yet ignores what was actually said.
he wishes dp was PERFECT, PRISTINE when even traditional media get their shit wrong at times. PROFESSIONALS fcking things up. plus dp already clarifies this one in astershow's interview with him. guys probably hasnt heard about the other interviews either corroborating 2.5.
Yeah, dismissing everything else dogpack said and ONLY focusing on the wrong thing is pretty shitty from muta.
@@NuStiuFrate he never even brought up the lacoya part.
This is so sad. Abusing children’s loyalty? Shame on him.
not really knew for youtube, Logan paul has been doing it for years
@@Bread-nx9fo But on the scale of MrBeast's humongous platform is just on another level of bad.
@@Bread-nx9fo spelling error opinion invalid
@@dukeofgotham4311 generic name with no pfp opinion invalid
every kids youtuber ever
Did u really just compare dogpack404 to mamamax? That's such a big stretch
Slight comparison
not sure i would go so far as to discredit EVERYTHING dogpack alleged, his error was extreme, but it is foolish to discount everything he has brought up because of it in my opinion. Maybe instead of thinking "I shouldn't believe anything this guy ever says", you might be better of thinking "Well, he is obviously a biased source, so I will take everything he says with a grain of salt", I believe that to be way more conducive to critical thinking instead of going from one extreme to the other, especially when he does bring up allegations that do seem to be a lot more credible, and should be looked into more.
Well sure absolutely. But i do think dogpacks approaching it the wrong way maybe? It's great that he's said all the things he's said its been crucial right, buuut i do think that letting your mouth slip is indicitive of having a poor approach to it in general.
Which you know like i could do the same i get it, but it is definitely feedback i'd give to him if i could, but that's just my stance anyhow.
Sounds like he got fed false information on purpose and then ghosted by his source.
I think it's also wild to discredit everything someone says based off them getting one thing wrong rather than looking at the balance of the person and their creditability. A more reasonable response would be "he's been right about most of the things he's talked about and has provided evidence that others have corroborated, so he's probably telling the truth, but maybe I need more evidence to believe some claims."
I think Dawson said in an interview that he made that claim because of things people he trusts who worked at Beast have told him. Now, maybe those sources got it wrong or confused... or they are right, and it just hasn't been proven yet. Maybe it happened in another state, maybe charges were never pressed, maybe it happened when he was a juvenile, etc. There are reasons why charges may not have been found or filed. Just because he isn't THAT James Warren doesn't mean he hasn't hit girlfriends. I find it very difficult to believe that someone who covered for their predator bestie twice is not also a scumbag. Given Mr. Beast's track record, I personally am not inclined to give that company the benefit of the doubt since more and more keeps coming out about them.
@@MechaOracle doesn't matter, he didn't fact check it that's the problem here
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
Working with Logan Paul should be immediate grounds for investigation at this point. He's gotten away with so much over the years, it's nuts.
And yes, electrolytes are dangerous if too high. It's a "fitness" culture myth that you have to increase them all the time.
Average chronically online overreaction, your not saying Gatorade is bad for you tho 😂, no kid is going to down enough prime to end up with an electrolyte imbalance
I don’t think dogpack credibility is gone at all. He slipped up on one thing cause there’s a bunch of dudes who beat their gfs. It sounded like everything else he brings up is good. He even came out and said he made a mistake.
Yeah it definitely hasn't removed his credibility.
Exactly, I don’t like how Muta is just like “can’t believe anything you say now!” Several beast employees confirmed the abuse allegations, which is what Dogpack said, that’s what allegedly means, which sleep-deprived Muta is missing. 🤦♂️
@@_..-.._..-.._ not just him people call those who think his credibility isn't dead as delusional and lol we still have people trust in people like tom and asmon, like asmon recently just got caught spreading false allegations. Will muta make a video about that? Probably not. As he didn't make one for nux like he didn't for tom.
So many news sights Fuck up and people still trust them. They want dp to he some sort of god, perfect, and I'm like wtf this isn't a movie.
It's wild that you were one of the people to clown Rosanna, who was 1 of the first people to come fwd about MrBeast's lies/cheating, only for it to appear that she was right the entire time.... Not a good look.
@someordinarygamerz
@someordinarygamers i think u need to also address this one (if you're going to call out dogpack, u know)
Because she had no proof or evidence.
Thats literally step one
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw no proof or evidence is one thing. clowning on the person making these claims is another. You really think its justified? most of th evidence about her claims was out there in the internet for everyone to see anyway.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw Wasn't her proof what she saw? So eye witness testimony? This is like saying, "someone robbed you? You have no proof. Shut up"
Good. This isn't RUclips drama. This is a sociopath and his psychopathic mother getting caught exploiting people
"exploiting *children " 😬 The family is some weird operation paperclip dark mirror demons that target children. Hope someone with integrity in law enforcement investigates them and the islands they own.
On RUclips. Therefore this is RUclips drama.
@@grimgrahamch.4157then wouldn't any story coverage posted on RUclips become RUclips drama?
@@grimgrahamch.4157is it still considered drama if there’s actual crimes being (allegedly)committed? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I genuinely want to know
@@TRN46111 yes, see, "diddy drama"
Bold to assume the majority of people have critical thinking skills. In my experience, the majority of people see a door close by itself and immediately assume their house is haunted.
Bold to assume the majority of people have critical thinking skills. In my experience, the majority of people see a door close by itself and immediately assume their house is haunted.
Lmao yea
Found gold in the comments section finally
Question: If you'll criticize dogpack harshly for spreading misinformation, why don't you do the same with NuxTaku?. He's someone you associate with, and he's done the same thing and arguable worse as he has ruined someone's carrier over false allegations and won't even give a proper apology too. Why is there a double standard?.
True, that person says some crazy stuff nowadays...
Muta is a walking example of double stardards
Because he doesn't want to nor has to that's about it.
I'm glad the public is finally seeing how predatory Jimmy's business practices are. From fake lotteries and false advertising, to horrific working conditions and very questionable staff hires. What he does in his philanthropic work is admirable. However, that does not give him a free pass to do whatever he wants.
Seems like His philantrophy has always a case of reputation laundry!
His "philanthropic work" is all smoke and mirrors to get more eyes on his content. Also donations are a tax write off, so he's also doing it to save his business money. He's no saint and I'm tired of people treating him like one. In reality he's very similar to Elon in a sense.
I like how you act like you knew this but didn't do anything you're just as bad.
@@okyep yeah, you're right. I should have single handedly taken down the Mr Beast company. My bad everyone, this is all on me.
I love how every single parody video portrayed him as an insane masochistic psychopath bent on doing anything for views.
It's like they knew all along they just hid the truth under "parody". Mostly because the few who did speak out against him were publicly shunned
Mismanagement of business, especially targeted towards a younger audience is never acceptable. However, an investigation without concrete evidence can cause further damage. It's vital to have all the facts before making accusations.
Mr. Beast getting sued, Nikocado revealed to be skinny, the complete reputational collapse of P. Diddy. What’s next, Sam Pepper and Onision GamerSupps flavors?
💀 This year couldn't get any wilder fr
Asmongold cleans his room
What reputation collapse? Can't lose what you never had, the only thing that changed is that the charges finally stuck now.
Biggie Smalls
Biggie Smalls
Biggie Smalls
@@skdeathxlife😱
@@Mordecrox
P. Diddy was never a model citizen but most of the stuff that is NOW known about him wasn’t on the public radar. Prior to a few years back, no one batted an eye to Diddy anymore than someone like Charlie Sheen, Jared Leto or Jared from Subway PRIOR to 2015/16. They were just kind of off-people until their big things came out and the public fully realizes what they do in the dark. I’m not saying any one of these cases are as bad as the others, just that the public opinion was VERY different than the reality of their person.
Man, this video really comes off as some ordinary gamer sweeping for Mr. Beast..
hmmm… smells like glazed donuts in Muta’s room rn
not really. there was one instance of him pointing out a blatantly false accusation and him very strongly going against pretty much everything Mr. Beast has done throughout the rest of the video. literally rallying against him because of what it might do to the credibility of other youtubers. also having nuance and saying we don't have all the details yet is not taking someone's side, it is the actual fact of the current situation, not getting washed into a hate mob is not the same as supporting someone. it is very likely Mr. beast is an awful person who is massively exploitative, but assuming every allegation is true could implicate you for things like libel. and is also just poor practice, I am more concerned about him simping for amazon personally.
I don’t think it hurts his credibility at all
He very clearly said allegedly and that he couldn’t find definitive proof
then he shouldn't have said it. that is the whole argument he said something without proof. that is dumb especially with such heavy allegations. you are allowing the point to fly over your head.
The point of Mr Beast videos is to make money, not help people.
Nothing against making money, as long as it is not unethical, and MrBeast's methods very much might be, according to allegiations.
So he did have a retraction? Saying that undoes all of the other evidence he has put forward is kind of a bad take. Dogpack posting the wrong info is a big issue, he needs to fix that video up asap. It does seem llike he's trying to do the right thing in the long run. Mr Beast and crew do need to be held accountable for all of the actions and damages that they have caused, and the way that he has been protected, and has tried to say nothing is extremely disgraceful. Everything about him is a sham. If you let your kids watch him at this point, you are not a fit parent imo.
just fyi, Dogpack DID confirm that, he did a whole interview with oompa about it and everything
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
and another clarification with theastershow.
Its also fucked up to disbelieve all the other victims in his videos because one of his sources was wrong..? What is with this weird high ground?
Yeah muta acting super weird here, actually projecting.
he said it is grounds for suspicion, not that it's all wrong. did you actually pay attention to what was said?
@@logandarnell8946 he was leaked to be apart of group chats with keemstar & mr beast, putting people down and making fun of people who argued against Mr. Beast. he's a part of them. that's why he acted so weird about this.
Good. DanTDM for the win.
Muta mentions dogpack and his focus was that he mentioned allegations and stated he wasnt sure abt them and then it wasnt correct. And didnt mention the guy who was more or less confirmed to SA people and his moving around of that said guy around the company. Just like when he laughed at that female contestant during the hide and seek challenge. I dont see how someone credibility is lossed when they present something and explicitly state they are not sure. Seems Muta is lacking critical thinking.
Or how James was involved in Ponzi schemes. Or how he calls him a criminal and not specifically a pedo. Or all the other employees who’ve come forward with sexism/racisim/war crimes/mistreatment. Yeah he messed that one specific part up it doesn’t discredit everything else he’s done.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@hqzdn0032People at Mr Beast admitted they work with a registered sex offender. He’s in relation to one of the cast members
this is the third or fourth time i found hqzdn0032 in the comments , with the SAME comment
honestly L take on dogpack, theres a reason why he uses "allegedly" not saying its for sure. If Dogpack had never made that video in the first place we wouldnt have known any of that or even if he had taken few weeks more, I think the spotlight or the number people interested in these allegations would have died down. Feels like youre trying to defend MrBeast at the beginning, making yourself a target for hated online when everyone rn is hating those 3 assholes.
If you just "allegedly" your way out of any kind of BS you wanted to make up, that invalidates the entire point of this kind of journalism in the first place. Could just spam all celebrities with all kind of allegations constantly and eventually you'll be right and you can claim your Pulitzer, right?
You think Mutahar cares? Hah!
@@nothing4mepls973 journalists fck every now and then, even get people killed. Yet they're still seen as credible tho.
he said someone "maybe" committed DV without making sure first for the sake of views and "relevancy" and you are defending that? are you high?
Wasn't Prime being sued over trying to cancelled orders of bottles of prime and breach of contract? I can't help thinking this is partly a cunning way to offload a load of Prime bottles to try and get out of the case....
Maybe that's why the Dollar Tree is now selling unused Prime now for $1.25. Even then, it isn't worth the price.
I think they promised to sell a certain amount of units and they didn’t do that. So manufacturers are suing over that
@@DarkForce2024 It's also on sale in pretty much every discount shop in the UK as well....
@@orlandocruzlopez3536 That's what I vaguely remember - so when I first heard about the whole Lunchly thing, all I could think was this was just a way to get rid of more bottles of Prime.
@@SylvesterTempleusa, grocery outlet has pallets of it, 50 cents a can lmao
This whole year has been a wild ride for youtube so far
And you know more than likely this year probably still got something even more wild for us to experience given its not even October yet. lol
@umuppp-e7n how are these comments still existing after like 10+ yrs
They also just triggered legal action with a vtuber company, too. RUclips better get its stuff in order
let’s summarize this lol. how many creators have gotten exposed for being a pdf file or had allegations? legit month after month there was someone new
This year has basically been "New week, either X famous person died or X RUclipsr is exposed as a pdf file"
Muta, what’s the complaint here with Dogpack? First you said he should have issued a retraction, then you read out his retraction.
And are you seriously saying that you’ve literally never gotten something wrong? That you’ve never said something that proved to be incorrect?
Exactly! I don't know why muta is acting so high and mighty like he's never done the same thing, So by his logic anything muta says in the future should be discredited
@@warlordofbritannia acting like throwing out DV accusations is some small oops is stupid
I feel like the gut punch you mentioned doesn't hold much weight when dogpack himself has been saying that it was allegations and I'm not sure about it. I don't think this ruined his credibility as he did make pretty clear that this could be a misunderstanding in the video and that shouldn't be taken from the context of finding out the rerport. And even then, he said that he should have waited for a full report on the topic which I can also agree with, but shouldn't be something that's held against him as he made it clear it's a big allegation. But am I wrong in that assessment?
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
no, bad move sure but literal professionals have done worse and got people KILLED. it's good that he was the one to clarify it and hope he learns from that. has also added additional stuff in theastershow and oompaville interviews. now he's being invited to a talk with piers morgan.
@@hqzdn0032 Then this guy is also a liar. When Rosanna started talking about Jimmy's lies and scams, SomeOrdinaryGamers started CLOWNING on her (that's right. Making fun of her, not just saying she isn't reliable). Yet it comes out that everything she said is true as we can see in the ongoing lawsuit (which, you need some evidence to file a lawsuit. You don't just go to the judge and say "I think this guy is bad").
So SomeOrdinaryGamers also lost all credibility, because he mad fun of the person that was right all along, and didn't address this even once. Meanwhile dogpack clarified on twitter everything.
@@spookyclaws5350 so he did that huh, true never heard him bring up an apology about rossana, at least pegasus did for rosanna despite criticizing dp in the latest video.
Also saw a comment saying mutahar defended a person who did dv? I don't know about that but he has never spoken against his FRIENDS nux and tom fcking over tyga and pyro calling them pedo and groomer and till this day never owning up to their mistake. Did he made a a video about that? Yeah no.
Didn't you kinda speculate on the whole doctor disrespect thing without any proof too?
Yeah, but YT didn't need to wagon circle and create a huge smokescreen for Dr. D like they are for Kris so they can quietly memory hole the whole thing. Funny how every big RUclipsr you know is more concerned with seeing Jimmy's career and reputation ruined as opposed to holding Kris accountable. This isn't even the 1st time YT has thrown their Golden Goose under the bus to appease the mob, or did everyone forget what happened with PewDiePie already?
@@WhiplashPuppet MrBeast is the Pdiddy of youtube. Hes got dirt on all the top guys.
@@WhiplashPuppetisn’t pewdiepie doing well ? Also did he have a kid or is that a Mandela effect for me 😭
Mutahar being a hypocrite.
Took 20min for me to find out why he’s being sued..
Yea that pissed me off. Kept jumping forward to find info about the suing.
At this point, a ton of ppl, organizations, and other entities should be sued until they're dry. Rightly so.
Sue Nintendo into oblivion and _then_ maybe i'll be vindicated.
sued? I want to see SoyJack Jimmy face criminal charges!!
"This war is a people's war, against a system that spiralled outta our control. It's a war againt the fucking forces of entropy, understand?"
@@alexandervishnesky7498 Agreed. Nintendo is one of them on my top 3.
@@hardrightturn7502 Who's that? And what did he do?
Well I’m all fairness we have seen muta go back on many things and make videos about people with only allegations.
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Yeah but his point is that by doing that you become less trustworthy (as well as the fact it’s humiliating), not only that it gives people an excuse to dismiss your other claims even if they’re right.
@@ry1023.3 no your missing the point. He still makes videos on just allegations. Then says it’s bad when other RUclipsrs does it.
@@Zippofanatic77outdoors He also clowned on Rosanna when she came out with the lies and overall bad things MrBeast did, treating her as a joke. Turns out she was right all along and things are coming to the surface. He's so quick to move from side to the other, depending on which is deemed right by the audience.
@@ry1023.3 you're being gullible. Professional News fck up too but people still see them as credible.
Heck tom fcked up about pyro yet people still like him.
Ngl I miss old muta
$1 bribed judge vs 1,000,000 bribed judge
Bros Al Capone at this point
Honestly if he manages to make a video like that the justice system is official dead forever
I'm going to be honest about my opinion here. I feel like the Dogpack, James warren thing is the most BS thing. If I didn'[t know better, I would think people calling dogpack out for this were just drama farming. I don't think Mutahar drama farms but it is such a stupid argument. He literally made it apparent that it wasn't confirmed DV charges, he said it was still being looked into, and yet people still think he made this major mistake. I've said this 1000 times now and I'll say it again. YOU DON'T NEED THE RUclipsR TO DO THE THINKING FOR YOU USE YOUR OWN BRAIN.
I will hold merit to dogpack being a sloppy journalist. He clearly isn't the best suited for this, and he him self admits that. I also think that most of the claims can't be 100% trusted by multiple channels covering Mr Beast since you don't know who it's coming from. I respect peoples privacy, but at the same time it's that privacy that makes testimony untrust worthy.
I have hundreds of takes and I think people on all sides of the fence would point guns at me for them, but I am running out of the will to repate them when more and more videos come out from people who are either blindly agreeing, or ignorantly ignoring different information provided.
I agree. The tweet shows at 6:50 says this "eviscerates Dogpack's credibility" which is BS as the claims in his first 2 videos are backed up especially the whole thing with Jake Weddle being tortured by the Mr. Beast crew...
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
This is one of the most solid takes I've ever witnessed on the internet. 💯
mutahar is the avatar of drama farming imo.
I agree that he messed up by not vetting correctly, but saying he's completely "uncreditable" seems like an overreaction. It'd be exactly like saying when Mathar makes a mistake when speaking by saying one word but meaning another makes him uncreditable. It really is an overreaction. But then again, people on X will take anything to make the "big time" in drama on a platform abandoned by people with common sense.
But muta's acting the same way people on x is in this video.
Lunchables should drop their own chocolate brand now
Since Jimmy has 2 brands ripped off of Lunchables (FeastABLES and LUNCHly's), they should call it Beastables or Beastly's.
@@MunkeyKung Bwhaha good one!
"wild and whacky allegations." That's how you choose to describe them. Interesting
its a joke, batman
@@theguy6484 Not a very funny one.
@@theguy6484 yeah let's laugh at SA and call it wacky af haha so funny man.
@@Vibepikodansha oh
Mr. Beasts behavior is unacceptable. He needs to be punished, civily and criminally. No more slaps on the hand for rich guys exploiting people. We need justice and we need it now
Somehow i doubt people care that much 😂
Wild and wacky allegations?
Don't downplay it like that
Agree. I paused watching and came to comments.
That’s cute mudaha thinks that the media retracts stories when they are wrong 😂
he has no clue lol
They have retracted stories but it not a normal thing.
@@YurinanAcquiline well news reports got people killed in my country. Professionals aren't perfect. Some just never loose their credibility because just like jimmy, they keep quiet about it.
Muta, I think its a bit unfair to claim Dogpack is just having an egotrip or not actually trying to do the right thing because he was wrong *once*. It's fair if he's less credible because of one mistake, but this is not equivalent to the Mamamax situation, dogpack owned up to being wrong and I think it's very disingenuous of you to start treating him as if he's on the same level as that guy.
Well, DogPack has done a great job and I think you're nitpicking a little that he made one fuck up during the whole release of evidence. It did seem a LITTLE overboard to say anything at all about the domestic violence charges without 100% proof, but that means very little when applied to the rest of the evidence.
I think you're being a little too hard on DogPack.
he also was a bit disingenuous calling that a core facet of dogpack's video and then cutting out the context. That like 30s part was a complete throwaway and dogpack makes sure to clarify that it all was based off testimony from ex employees and that the only reason he's talking about it is so more information could come to light if people had it (which is what happened after the jake weddle interview). Definitely still a mistake to put it in, but I don't think it really hurts his credibility as much as people want it to - especially since he was pretty public about fixing it once he determined it wasn't true.
There are a looooot more inconsistencies in his reports. It's just that you believed all of them.
@@Katatonya I'm sure you won't enlighten me, but I'm absolutely 100% open to hearing any criticism on this. I'm absolutely the type of person to change my mind when hearing better or newer evidence... but in case you are in the mood to tell me about them... I'm here and I'm reading.
@@spuds3689 You can't be "sure" about me not enlightening you and also "100%" open to trying me to convince you. Either way sorry I long forgot the details. I'm not this invested in this to remember everything. I just shared what my impressions were at the time of watching Dog's video. Since this seems like the first time you saw any inconsistencies in his story, when Mutahar points it out for you, then you definitely missed the rest of them, if they existed. Now in my opinion they did but I don't remember specifics.
@@Katatonya Also, I CAN be sure that you wouldn't enlighten me AND also be open to being wrong. Those two things can both be true.
Honestly, if the lawsuit from Logan against Coffee turns out to be a loss on Logan (which I ultimately believe it will, since as far as I am aware, the guy has no defense to back up his own claims) or if he retracts the lawsuit, RUclips should take a stance on that. Bullying a smaller channel just because your feelings are hurt, and using the judicial system to properly threat a fellow employee shouldn't be allowed on the platform, because allowing the man to engage in this behaviour in this platform is similar to endorsing it, in my opinion, obviously.
You think RUclips cares? This is the same company that protected Sssniperwolf and is spending millions of dollars on beating ad blocks instead of just improving their ad system.
RUclips/Google is just as scummy as their worst creators.
what do you mean you were waiting for the answer on if he was scamming kids???? are you with him too??? it was clear as day he was scamming kids for views if you actually saw dogpacks video...
I was on a Mr. Beast challenge once. It was the one where we had to hide for 10 hours in a mall.
Ill never forget spending 7 hours with no food, through the night, incredibly uncomfortable hiding in a small space that made my legs go numb every 10 minutes.
All of that for him to use infared drones and a SWAT team to get me and everyone else in the area out in the last hours in a game of HIDE AND SEEK. He then gave them the money in front of us.
Thanks Jimmy! 😁
2:50 -- It’s a perfectly normal smile. Not forced. And most importantly, not creepy or weird at all, right? ...
Looks AI generated
@@TomtomTM1 Well ... that's his smile, unfortunately, believe it or not.
If you cover his mouth, you can't even tell he's smiling.
9 minutes total addressing the lawsuit... not sure why but DogPack got like 8 minutes of time in this video.. then lunchly got like 7 minutes of time also not related to the lawsuit....
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@@hqzdn0032 this video is titled "Mr Beast is getting sued" NONE of DogPack's allegations are related to the lawsuit AT ALL. LUNCHLY is NOT related to the lawsuit AT ALL. This is my point.
@@blackpanther3912 okay
@@hqzdn0032 the fact that you keep copypastaing this into various comments is "stucky proof" that you're either a MrBeast comment bot or a troll farming for arguments lmao what does "stucky proof" even mean, that sounds like some little kid speak.
@@SGSP3 you're speaking directly to stucky.
Notice how Chandler quit right before all this came out? It's like he knew it was coming.
He didn't quit he's been in videos less throughout the years because of religious reasons and his own life
@@monotonecanadian6825 some > none
I personally think that if he quit now its because he's a shit friend. You don't abandon your friends as soon as the getting gets hard. But im pretty sure he hasn't entirely quit
@@Loneadmin If your friends seem to have no problem treating their workers like dogshit and exploiting children for money, then you absolutely should abandon them. How could you, in good conscience, be friends with a person who acts like that?
@@Loneadminnice bait
Brillant idea by MrBeast, work with a person is suing a journalist for asking questions not to mention the Crypto stuff like dink doink, CryptoZoo, and much more.
$1 lawyer vs $1,000,000 lawyer
Ita finaly happening???
oh my god its not funny anymore
@@whitepumpkinenthusiast27 womp womp
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Selling merch is pretty tame compared to Lunchly because if you’re buying a shirt you know you’re getting a shirt. People aren’t claiming the shirt has health benefits.
If Logan is the drink guy and Jimmy is the chocolate guy, does that make KSI the cracker stacker guy?
Nah, KSI is either the Redditor guy or the NFT Guy.
@@NickolasAEtzelwoosh
As a massive That Surprise Witness supporter, I’d just like to say, BJ, that’s the name she goes by, is about her business and is not a tea channel. She’s a former attorney turned investigative journalist/reporter.
JUSTICE FOR AMANDA RABB❤️
Not gonna lie, the way he casually dismissed her as a tea channel came off a little bit sexist to me.
Even if you disagree with that take, it's like he did no research and made assumptions. Which is a little ironic considering it was in a middle of a rant about people needing to do research.
@@JusteFantastico "casually dismissed her as a tea channel came off ... sexist.." Really! I had never heard of this girl so yeah unfortunately I assumed she was just a tea channel. How disappointing to have some youtuber diminish your accomplishments to calling you a tea channel 🤦♀It takes like seven years to become a lawyer right?
@@JusteFantasticoyeah trying to put her in the same league as like keemstar is wild 😭
About the last comment, I guess I am one of those kids.
I’ve watched his stuff for years now, genuinely thinking he was a good guy. Ever since the release of feastables chocolate, I began seeing him as someone who was “selling out” per se. And then after the curtain was pulled about Ava Chris Tyson, I completely 180’ed from how I saw Mr. Beast.
This really is sad stuff. I hope we don’t get another adpocalypse of sorts.
My heart goes out to the people who were in the beast games, who knows what they had to go through in there.
Mr.Beast probably thinks he'll get away mostly scott free. Seeing as how much money he makes he probably thinks he's virtually untouchable.
So did Al Capone. Surprised no one has made an entire video on the tax fraud, both state and federal, committed by Mr. Beast, LLC on the Nevada set of Beast Games.
Well... a good lawyer is how OJ got off. Mr. Beast hasn’t even killed yet (to my knowledge.) And he will have just as good lawyer... he just has to play the race card, wear black face to court.
He’s untouchly.
worst thing is, he probably is. There is no way youtube will do anything and his main audience is children who don't know/care/understand what's so wrong about all this. Capitalism doesn't care about people, even children. With enough money there are mostly no serious consequences to your actions
But he is. Rich people are more untouchable than the noble of old. They can buy judges, they can buy anything. The Epstein list leaked but it was swapped under the rug. Billionaires are untouchable. While they exist, we will never be equal under the law. I am not a communist or anything, I just think that everyone is corruptible if they get that amount of money. I think billionaires should be taxed out of existence.
Another thing Mr beast has covered up in all this drama he used have ethic labor for his chocolate but no longer has the same thing saying or proof he uses non-ethic labor (child and slaves) for his chocolate it so disgusting and disappointing
I like that they're getting absolutely bodied on Twitter especially since KSI and Logan are painfully smug about all this.
Dogpack didn't say that That Suprise Witness was his source. He clearly showed a text from somebody, probably a Mr. Beast Employee, alleging that James Warren is a wife beater. Dogpack then said that it wasn't confirmed, that the cases may be different people, and that he was having TSW look into it. Please retract your demand for a retraction.
Yeah, and also kind of sounds like he is defending MrBeast doesn’t it
Like he’s all that discrediting DogPack and DogPack specifically said “I don’t know about this for sure” “Allegedly”
I don’t know if this is THE James Warren.
He specifically said allegedly.
And then Muta is saying that Jimmy is doing what he supposed to do by not saying anything
That made me look at Muta. Crazy.
Almost like him, and Jimmy are cool
can you imagine what james warren might be going through right now over this? because dogpack didn't fact check?
@@surewhynot6259 Nothing he wasn't already going through? Apparently, a shit ton of Mr. Beast employees already suspected that he was a wife beater. The only thing that is different is that he was exposed to the public as Mr. Beast's secret CEO. Dogpack only said that everything was alleged and that the court cases may referring to someone else. If anything, he's better off now than he was before because dogpack had TSW look into it and clear his name.
stucky proof that Dogpack is a liar. I'm not Mr beast is innocent but just because Someone call him out does not make the person that him out is a good person
@surewhynot6259 nothing he wasn't already going through, other than being outed to the public as being Mr. Beast's secret CEO? Apparently, it was already a rumor that James was convicted of DA within the Mr. Beast company and dogpack said that there wasn't any concrete evidence of that. If anything, he's better off now that TSW has cleared his name.
2024 is one of the craziest years on yt i have seen. Both international and in germany lmao.
Wait it's about to get even crazier with the US elections 😂
Wait what's happening in Germany?
@@Bananamanmk53-yv2ph too deep of a rabbit hole to open but basically every childhood youtuber has some dirt sticking and a 1€ donation caused it all.
@@Bananamanmk53-yv2ph Hope it isn't another funny facial hair man
what’s your fav final fantasy game? :)
Even if Mr Beast wasn’t being exposed recently, what in the *world* made him think a collab between him and Prime was a remotely good idea? Ever?
Not just Prime, just Logan Paul in general
But also like ‘we’re being sued…let’s drop a video with Logan Paul :)’
i love mr beast downfall era
yall remember when mr beast did bad paper intros?
Yep. Good times.
Absolutely 100%, I wish he would go back to doing those, but times change.
Muta riding the Mr. D
Dogpack said multiple times, that you should take the allegations with a grain of salt. Now you are acting as if this disproves 2,5h of other allegations
Exactly! Why is muta acting so high and mighty trying to destroy the whole case by discrediting anything dogpack says in the future
Mutahar questioning dogpat's credibility and advertising his beastie buddy
Someone better get Mutas hard drive before he microwaves it!
He is finally getting sued, surprised it hasn't happened already
RUclips is helping him, so sick of this platform
@@nssupremacy_4281why are you doing here then
didnt jimmy already get sued for the deez nuts and beast burger thing
@@wyattbarnett3877 nowhere else to go
@@wyattbarnett3877 Crazy grammar
Honestly I'm more shocked that people bought into his effective altruism for so long. Mr. Beast ALWAYS seemed fake to me because of the forced smile he puts on in all of his thumbnails. Oh well, guess I can just be glad y'all finally caught up lol
I Guess the jig is up and he doesn't need to keep the good guy act anymore
I really wonder if it was all an act from the start, or if money corrupted him as he got rich
@@koutsioj4762I remember a vid from super early beast when he was just at a simple desk talking about money and investing and how excited he was about his vids. That was years ago. I never watched his stuff because I am not 10 but every time I happen to see him the last couple of years I couldn’t help but think about how rigid and cold his posture is. A vacant look.
@koutsioj4762 Money doesn't change you. It shows who you are.
Domestic violence is no joke, yet I can't remember the last time I ever heard it taken seriously
didnt drake just said that about kendrik? what happened there? let's just ignore that and not verify that because he cool?
What do you tell your wife if you notice she has 2 black eyes?
Nothing, you already told her twice.
Jesus I mean I like an offensive joke from time to time but cmon there's a time and a place
@@ed07722 ion know about that. Offensive and dark jokes are like kids with cancer:
They never get old.
I agree. The other thing is many women stay with their abusers and defend them. There are many factors that cause DV not to be taken seriously.
good lord, they're advertising prime with electrolytes. yep, the idiocracy timeline is just straight ahead boys.
Plants crave it!