People saying this sound bad, it's isolated. It's removed from the song and their sound as a band. It's not going to sound right on it's own. Listen it to the context of the song and it fits and sounds good.
Still sounds bad lol why listen to an isolated version if a Dick weed like you is saying go listen to the song in context?! What, to avoid it sounding... bad!? Hahaha what a fucking idiot you are sir.
@@danfernandes5607 so you're gonna argue that a track mixed by Andy Wallace sounds bad ? An isolated track is educational on his own, both for mixing and playing purposes.
People need to understand that on actual records, all tracks are mixed in context. This can mean that a single track / Instrument might sound surprisingly odd on its own but it sure does serve a purpose in the whole mix. Tim often kicks in distortion, e.g. on Bulls on Parade, to made the whole band tone even fuller. These are pretty sure the original tracks. Whoever has listened to the recording and has 5 cent worth of musicianship can tell.
Yeah literally, of course a SUPPORTING INSTRUMENT that serves that exact role in the song ain't gonna sound right without the other instrument's it's supporting. It fits perfectly with other instruments and sounds the band has to offer. Very well put my friend.
@@romanfields7900 Morello is probably my favorite guitarist but without timmy c rage would not be heavy at all since tom barely plays chords and prefers single notes, his guitar tracks are often super light compared to tims bass fuzz
Yes definitly is, they recorded it live with PA monitors cranked to the full in SundCity studio so probably lots of reverb is from room amplified by that monitors and some crosstalk was captured by Tims amps mics.
@@MrBarnejstinson not sure about that. there's no audible bleed for the other instruments. the verb sounds great though, like a big room, but I can't imagine they had monitors going full bore.
I believe this was mixed by Andy Wallace, who often uses reverb and sometimes flanging effects on bass lines to make them fuller. I imagine this is probably his work.
@@jayvenOmtangerine on evil empire was a jazz bass destroyed on vma performance he Said that and there a pictures of him with that jazz bass on cover art of cd
Sure buddy, they play alone and don't understand that in a rock band setting most bass tone is overdriven and distorted. Even though they wouldn't use that tone for practice. Knowing that makes you a music savant? Or a straight douchebag.
I played this tune with some friends at a bar, and the place just exploded when the main riff kicked in. Just found out I missed some of the nuances....brilliant playing by TC.
+BlackDog Thomas Impressed of what? Ever heard of Iron Maiden? :P Try playing Iron Maiden- Run to the hills on the bass with Steve Harris style (two fingers only).
+BlackDog Thomas He always does :P And yes, I also like the trooper better (yet I find that one easier to play :P). By the way, now that I look back, I see I posted "Impressed of what?". That should have been "Impressed of that?". My post suddenly looks like an asshole post :P
Fuzz, high treble + boosted lows, split signal, cut mids, finger style on a jazz bass/Ray with more sense of groove than most before him. This Man created an entirely new style of Bass with minimal practice or training. Timmy C the OG, underappreciated. Name another who sounds like him, I dare you
@@thaddeusfromsonar Agreed. Anyone that regularly plays this style of music can do it. I'm an Iron Maiden nut who maybe plays a half hour every other day; I can do that all day long.
I always liked Tim's bass playing because he was one of the few that used harmonics and used them well. I always knew he had a little bit of Jaco in him. Keep in mind this is coming from a drummer 😉
reaally very good, clean and powerfull pizzicato for heavy metal/rock playing! well done, Mr Tim Commerford. Sometimes is hard to find in rock/metal players who have this type of clean right hand technique.
Such a bright tone with proper very low end! There was great engineering and mixing on this recording! You can tell by the fact that it sounds so odd when isolated but so right when in the mix!
Awesome Bass Tone, pretty simple/& easy song to play. Regardless T-Comm is a badass Bass Player, & I fucking love his heavy/& gritty Bass Tone typically blending His clean signal with the gritty/& dirty distorted signal for truly superb, & clear tone with retained low end thanks to the blending of His clean signal with the dirty.
Or humbuckers in general. This kind of pickup just tends to be pretty good at sounding DIRTEEYYY AF like somewhere at 0:40 and in general have more low mid's. Sure depends on the circuit inside the bass as well!
I love Timmy C's tone, just sounds as aggressive as if he was using a pick, but ist actually playing with his fingers (or according to some interviews mostly with just one finger)
Hey, just want to offer a bit of insight on that last bit about the one finger thing. Using one finger is great technique to use in a lot of circumstances as a compliment to typical two finger playing. It's very similar to a guitarists using all downstrokes instead of alternate strumming. If you look at your fingertips you'll notice that your index finger has a thin, pointed profiles compared to your middle finger, which is much more rounded off. That, in addition to the slightly different length, means that often they will sound a noticeably, but not a great deal, different when plucking a string. It's not a huge difference, but when you're trying to play something that is very prominent and very aggressive, consistency is really important. Playing with one finger makes for very consistent and powerful playing. I'd recommend looking at tracks recorded by Motown session bassist James Jamerson. He was famous for his one finger playing style that he called "the hook." he grooves like hell. TL;DR, using one finger means the notes sound equal in volume and attack. Some jazz guys hate it, but one's that don't see why this is a good technique are just snobs. blah blah blah.
@@-_-_m also if you use one finger in parts for the harder attack, over time it will obviously become more calloused, further making it a useful dynamic tool. my index finger is notably tougher than my middle and creates a different sound - a fast line its really not all that noticeable but something like a RATM groove, very noticeable
@@owenpaullucas6882 One finger sounding different from the rest is more of a bad thing, since it removes your ability to play steady, even sounding notes fast
See kids you don't need a click track. Just good human feel and follow your damn drummer!!! I say that to my band all the time. Just follow me and shut up and will be fine. Yes i'm the drummer!!!
Forget the haters. Great work. I play this on my Ibanez Fieldy K5 with MXR Bass DI+ distortion pedal through a Markbass CMD Jeff Berlin Combo amp and it sounds awesome
How much buzz you want should be a conscious decision. It gives the bass an edge in these hard contexts. For another example, check out Rex Brown's isolated track from "I'm Broken."
@Ben K Yeah my Spector is due a good setup. And I don't wanna mess around with the truss rod myself, and would rather have a professional do it... Problem is the nearest Guitar Center (or any music shop for that matter) is 50 miles away x)
@Ben K I've done it with my cheap StingRay copy. I kind of know how to adjust truss rod and action. But with my Spector, having in mind the price and sentimental value, I would rather have it done by a pro.
That Stingray😍😍😍. I wish I had an actual MM Stingray, but I ended up with an Ernie Ball OLP MM1 (Bass), discontinued by the way, which sounds surprisingly close to the actual Stingray. I love my bass a lot despite it not being high end. But man Timmy C is a goddamn BEAST!!!!
Noticed how after the intro when the drums kick in, , the bass had some highs cut-off, not to get in the way of cymbals or other upper range frequencies.
DOGOID I was wondering why the tone changed slightly. I thought he may have moved from playing on the E and A string to just playing it all on the E string
@@eyelesscrown7346 possibly but he could've strummed hard with his nails (with the nail on the middle finger making most of the contact). Saves having to remember to bring plectrums!
Omg.. 1 sick 'pOOpi' THUS, 'Pupai' has created the desire to focus on the details of your immediate interests to the extent that others consider you to be fussy. either way a Genius Many thanks RATM
as a bassist I am confident enough that the bass guitar that was used on this is a stingray and not a jazz bass there is this distinct tone that only a stingray bass can only produce.
0:41 this bass turned my dog into a wolf
Lol
That’s good shit right there
This song is nothing without the bass. It absolutely makes the song.
For sure… it’s a perfect example of a bassist providing rhythm and harmony perfectly just as a bassist should
Without bass, the song would look like the burger without meat
Tim is what makes all rage songs imo.
People saying this sound bad, it's isolated. It's removed from the song and their sound as a band. It's not going to sound right on it's own. Listen it to the context of the song and it fits and sounds good.
I read where Timmy C said his tone sounds like shit by itself. Its all about fitting in with the band.
Still sounds bad lol why listen to an isolated version if a Dick weed like you is saying go listen to the song in context?! What, to avoid it sounding... bad!? Hahaha what a fucking idiot you are sir.
@@danfernandes5607 so you're gonna argue that a track mixed by Andy Wallace sounds bad ? An isolated track is educational on his own, both for mixing and playing purposes.
Lol...it’s isolated so people, like other bass players, can hear what’s going on with this one instrument. Speaking of idiots...🤣🤣
@@jimjarnagin5344 - Foreals...if you wanna know just how stupid people can get, come to youtube
People need to understand that on actual records, all tracks are mixed in context. This can mean that a single track / Instrument might sound surprisingly odd on its own but it sure does serve a purpose in the whole mix. Tim often kicks in distortion, e.g. on Bulls on Parade, to made the whole band tone even fuller. These are pretty sure the original tracks. Whoever has listened to the recording and has 5 cent worth of musicianship can tell.
Yeah literally, of course a SUPPORTING INSTRUMENT that serves that exact role in the song ain't gonna sound right without the other instrument's it's supporting. It fits perfectly with other instruments and sounds the band has to offer. Very well put my friend.
do you know which pedal distortion he is using?
Exactly....they're not called "subdued" against the machine, haha.
Slap the isolated drums on top and people won't be saying it sounds bad anymore.
People just like to talk out of their arse about stuff they don't know anything about.
Many people think it is Tom Morello making those sounds, but it actually is Tim's bass...in many songs
Correct, Tim does make those bass sounds. Well done you.
Yeah, Morello sounds like crap.
Bulls on parade is the greatest example
@@romanfields7900 Morello is probably my favorite guitarist but without timmy c rage would not be heavy at all since tom barely plays chords and prefers single notes, his guitar tracks are often super light compared to tims bass fuzz
Love the reverb/room sound!
Yes definitly is, they recorded it live with PA monitors cranked to the full in SundCity studio so probably lots of reverb is from room amplified by that monitors and some crosstalk was captured by Tims amps mics.
@@MrBarnejstinson not sure about that. there's no audible bleed for the other instruments. the verb sounds great though, like a big room, but I can't imagine they had monitors going full bore.
@@tommacmillan8831 I don't remember who, probably Brad or Tim told that in Grohls movie about Sound City Studio.
@@jfh2112 it's probably just run though a lexicon or AMS reverb unit
I believe this was mixed by Andy Wallace, who often uses reverb and sometimes flanging effects on bass lines to make them fuller. I imagine this is probably his work.
yeah id never believe it was a jazz bass on this recording. i actually was arguing this with someone, but its soooo obvious its a stingray here
+Piotr Haba Yeah, Tim played a Stingray in the first RATM's album. In Evil Empire and TBOLA he played Jazz Basses.
Ya dude, this sounds Music Man as fuck, this crisp .. bright ringiness to it.
Musicman for sure.. No jazz bass sounds like that.. the picture is not actually the bass being used..
he also had precision bass with humbucker from musicman on it...I think also first album was recorded on it
@@jayvenOmtangerine on evil empire was a jazz bass destroyed on vma performance he Said that and there a pictures of him with that jazz bass on cover art of cd
Holy hell that distortion is a lot more than I thought
"Every comment on this video is wrong." - every comment on this video
This comment is wrong
My comment wrong too.. sad
You're right
Damn they blew a robots brain out on Star Trek with that move..It's the truth..everything I say is a lie.
0:42 That tone sounds NASTY
An amazing tone indeed.
Hell yeah. Love it!❤️
People in these comments have no clue about bass guitar, or music at all actually.
Sure buddy, they play alone and don't understand that in a rock band setting most bass tone is overdriven and distorted. Even though they wouldn't use that tone for practice. Knowing that makes you a music savant? Or a straight douchebag.
I know more about bass guitar than you do, and ever will, Dave.
cory_stereo ok
Well you have no clue too since you said bass guitar
@@kingsleygamingvlogs8136 tf am i supposed to call it?
Electrically amplified horizontally positioned classical double bass?
This makes me wonder why he ever stopped playing Stingrays.
Guy Smith because he didn't want that RATM become a "copy" of red hot chilli peppers, he even quit doing slap for it
+Po Tato slap never suited rage in my opinion
when did he ever slap except in take the power back?
Also he is back on Stingrays and in a big way!!
in know your enemy
He is for his side project.
The first album of RATM has my favorite bass tone i have ever heard
I played this tune with some friends at a bar, and the place just exploded when the main riff kicked in. Just found out I missed some of the nuances....brilliant playing by TC.
4:09-4:34 damn
+BlackDog Thomas Impressed of what? Ever heard of Iron Maiden? :P Try playing Iron Maiden- Run to the hills on the bass with Steve Harris style (two fingers only).
Eh, the trooper was better. He also played with two fingers
+BlackDog Thomas He always does :P And yes, I also like the trooper better (yet I find that one easier to play :P). By the way, now that I look back, I see I posted "Impressed of what?". That should have been "Impressed of that?". My post suddenly looks like an asshole post :P
You think thats hard? lol
+DutchPs3Gamers for badass bassists like me
2:00-
Practice this part future me
God what's that dp man
whats with that part?
Fuzz, high treble + boosted lows, split signal, cut mids, finger style on a jazz bass/Ray with more sense of groove than most before him.
This Man created an entirely new style of Bass with minimal practice or training.
Timmy C the OG, underappreciated.
Name another who sounds like him, I dare you
Some bit reverb a intro.
It's a Ray, on the open D you can hear the "click" when the string kinda hits the pole piece on the pickup
It's Ray, its got the parallel sound which is different to series like a Jazz, the scoop is different.
0:42
I nutted.
4:12 blows my mind
why
@@thaddeusfromsonar you need good stamina on your fingers to play that part
@@sdt44 that just comes with time
@@thaddeusfromsonar Agreed. Anyone that regularly plays this style of music can do it. I'm an Iron Maiden nut who maybe plays a half hour every other day; I can do that all day long.
@@sdt44 You suck if you think that’s hard
I always liked Tim's bass playing because he was one of the few that used harmonics and used them well. I always knew he had a little bit of Jaco in him. Keep in mind this is coming from a drummer 😉
I mean jaco was a drummer before he was a bass player
One of the song that made me love a stingray. The signature growl is iconic
4:11 here you know that he's a pro.
Because he can play one note very fast?
@@Dominik234100 yes
@@Dominik234100 he's doing it with his 2 fingers and the strings are very thick im not a bassist but thats seems pretty hard
@@ayyocam1917 It's nothing a total beginner can do. But it's also nothing especially hard
@@Dominik234100 ok didnt know
4:12 My right hand started to hurt just listening to this.
reaally very good, clean and powerfull pizzicato for heavy metal/rock playing! well done, Mr Tim Commerford. Sometimes is hard to find in rock/metal players who have this type of clean right hand technique.
Man that tone is fantastic!!
Tim and Brad one hell of a rhythm section
A lot of room sound in this bass track!
And sure sounds good!
i could listen to that chunky bass for hours
Same
Criminally underrated player.......get well soon prayers sent.
Yes, he is extremely underrated. I can hear & tell why Geddy Lee had such a impact on him.
Excellent feel as a player, the performance is just great.
Also the tone and finger / note attack punchy as fuck
DRIIIIIIIVE! FUUUUZZZZZ!
0:41 jesus christ
Such a bright tone with proper very low end! There was great engineering and mixing on this recording! You can tell by the fact that it sounds so odd when isolated but so right when in the mix!
Sounds like a Musicman Stingray
Awesome Bass Tone, pretty simple/& easy song to play. Regardless T-Comm is a badass Bass Player, & I fucking love his heavy/& gritty Bass Tone typically blending His clean signal with the gritty/& dirty distorted signal for truly superb, & clear tone with retained low end thanks to the blending of His clean signal with the dirty.
Clean as fuck
Crazy how you can hear that MM Stingray
Or humbuckers in general. This kind of pickup just tends to be pretty good at sounding DIRTEEYYY AF like somewhere at 0:40 and in general have more low mid's.
Sure depends on the circuit inside the bass as well!
I love Timmy C's tone, just sounds as aggressive as if he was using a pick, but ist actually playing with his fingers (or according to some interviews mostly with just one finger)
Hey, just want to offer a bit of insight on that last bit about the one finger thing. Using one finger is great technique to use in a lot of circumstances as a compliment to typical two finger playing. It's very similar to a guitarists using all downstrokes instead of alternate strumming. If you look at your fingertips you'll notice that your index finger has a thin, pointed profiles compared to your middle finger, which is much more rounded off. That, in addition to the slightly different length, means that often they will sound a noticeably, but not a great deal, different when plucking a string. It's not a huge difference, but when you're trying to play something that is very prominent and very aggressive, consistency is really important. Playing with one finger makes for very consistent and powerful playing. I'd recommend looking at tracks recorded by Motown session bassist James Jamerson. He was famous for his one finger playing style that he called "the hook." he grooves like hell.
TL;DR, using one finger means the notes sound equal in volume and attack. Some jazz guys hate it, but one's that don't see why this is a good technique are just snobs. blah blah blah.
@@-_-_m also if you use one finger in parts for the harder attack, over time it will obviously become more calloused, further making it a useful dynamic tool. my index finger is notably tougher than my middle and creates a different sound - a fast line its really not all that noticeable but something like a RATM groove, very noticeable
@@owenpaullucas6882 One finger sounding different from the rest is more of a bad thing, since it removes your ability to play steady, even sounding notes fast
its a marshall guv nor from the 80s, ur welcome. oh and about 4000 worth of vintage svts. low action, tight roundwounds
I absolutely love just hearing the bass only its interesting and to me it sounds rly good
When I do that little run in the second verse i usually use the open g string to make it easier - don’t think he uses that hack?
Timmy C. is why I want to learn to play Bass with my fingers very well over a pick.
que maravilha, meu deus
🤤
coisa lindaaaaaaaa
It’s obviously a stingray
Ahh yes my favorite part. 4:13
Happy 50th Birthday to Timmy C!
Lot of overdrive when it kicks in
Just Got a boss Gt-1B, what effect should I use to sound like this track (besides learning how to play bass properly:-)?
See kids you don't need a click track. Just good human feel and follow your damn drummer!!! I say that to my band all the time. Just follow me and shut up and will be fine. Yes i'm the drummer!!!
THAT BASS TONE
Iconic music man tone. Beautiful bass.
Anyone else want to buy a distortion pedal for bass after hearing this?
Darkglass Alpha Omega
@@kensurrency2564 I've heard they are the best..Muse and/ or Royal Blood rocks those.
Sounds fuckin great to me!
I love stringay sounds
Wait, people treat this as an actual song? It's a bass guitar, it's supposed to be played with other instruments
No it's treated as an isolated track do you not know what that is?
@@harrisonmathews1406 are you stupid? Read my comment again
What is bro blabbering about
Crazy I can hear where the cowbells should be
0:41 Fuck yeah, that's the stuff, thick solid heavy
hey it's the dude that climbed that one thing at that one thing
All the clacking and string noise and the fact that some notes are a bit off makes it feel just right, good time doesn't equal good feel
Kinda crazy to think there's reverb on the bass from the room.
It's set in drop D.....Duh
That tone in 0:41 is so bad but good a the same time
wow, this is from the album recording? how do you find stuff like this?
There are programmes you can do this with.
Probably from games like Guitar Hero which have isolated tracks
Wow the main chorus riff is way heavier than I expected, is it overdubbed much?
I just broke my speakers....and after 5 minutes my headphones...
Forget the haters. Great work. I play this on my Ibanez Fieldy K5 with MXR Bass DI+ distortion pedal through a Markbass CMD Jeff Berlin Combo amp and it sounds awesome
Hello fellow korn star
This is the bass track from the original song
Timmy's tone is always sick af
Super clean articulation.
KILLING IN THE CASEY!!!!!!!
Hell yeah!
Im here tripping about fret and nut buzz, and here Timmy C is rocking all that buzz lmao
How much buzz you want should be a conscious decision. It gives the bass an edge in these hard contexts. For another example, check out Rex Brown's isolated track from "I'm Broken."
@@57precision agreed. I personally find extremely clean bass tones way too bland, simplistic and boring.
Exactly what you said!!!
Look for some isolated tracks of John Entwistle if you want to play music without worrying about buzz...
@Ben K Yeah my Spector is due a good setup. And I don't wanna mess around with the truss rod myself, and would rather have a professional do it... Problem is the nearest Guitar Center (or any music shop for that matter) is 50 miles away x)
@Ben K I've done it with my cheap StingRay copy. I kind of know how to adjust truss rod and action. But with my Spector, having in mind the price and sentimental value, I would rather have it done by a pro.
El tono es bestial alv
Love how reverb goes full distorted berserk in a nanosec
That Stingray😍😍😍. I wish I had an actual MM Stingray, but I ended up with an Ernie Ball OLP MM1 (Bass), discontinued by the way, which sounds surprisingly close to the actual Stingray. I love my bass a lot despite it not being high end. But man Timmy C is a goddamn BEAST!!!!
Help the bear 🐻
Anyone know what Tim uses at 0:42 to get that tone?
it's a marshall the guv'nor pedal
Always loved the stingray rattle
Where did they get hold of this track? Straight from the studio? 🤔
Its most likely from a guitar hero game, you can go into the files and take out the individual tracks
Anyone knows what pedal he's using at 0:40?
I think he just used distortion/overdrive on that part.
any fuzz pedal will do the job, but he made is own custom distortion out of a wah pedal, and is probably using it on this track.
WOW. Das kann ja nun wirklich jeder Idiot nach 1 Stunde spielen und zwar ohne Vorkenntnisse.
Great! So is this Tim playing? or you or a friend? Thanks.
Yes, this is Tim :)
It's pretty obvious that this is the original track. Just sayin'
It's a Sting Ray, not Fender on first album.
qual o pedal que ele usa nessa música?
what is the pedal effect he uses in this song?
Parece um overdrive bem saturado ou um fuzz...
Parece um fuzz, overdrive e distorção soam bem diferentes do fuzz
That compressed stingray tone is on point!
Pretty cool riff
Noticed how after the intro when the drums kick in, , the bass had some highs cut-off, not to get in the way of cymbals or other upper range frequencies.
DOGOID I was wondering why the tone changed slightly. I thought he may have moved from playing on the E and A string to just playing it all on the E string
Yeah, it almost sounds like he switched from playing with a pick to his fingers.
@@morgancross5481 I think that’s what he did. He probably used a pick to strum those first chords easier
@@eyelesscrown7346 possibly but he could've strummed hard with his nails (with the nail on the middle finger making most of the contact). Saves having to remember to bring plectrums!
It could also be an artifact of the isolation process, since in order to remove the cymbals, those highs might need to be removed.
4:44 I love this part
The Stingray is not a bass to be toyed with.
Procorat distortion…
I think this is played on his Music Man
I wonder what Rick Beato thinks of this?
The real question is what does Corey Taylor think?
Omg..
1 sick 'pOOpi'
THUS, 'Pupai' has created the desire to focus on the details of your immediate interests to the extent that others consider you to be fussy.
either way a Genius Many thanks RATM
Fuzz Bass
Audioslave.
Made this band .
After ???
That reverb sounds bloody awful, but in the context of the track it works.
I just pee myself
as a bassist I am confident enough that the bass guitar that was used on this is a stingray and not a jazz bass there is this distinct tone that only a stingray bass can only produce.