As a Hunter, a few things: Leather legs that are the other option are from the Four Horsemen, there is also the WSG legging. As I Hunter I hate the idea of taking DFT because Hunters SHOULD be trinket swapping, and therefore the Hit is completely useless, in that case most of the time Seal of the Dawn is better with Royal Seal only 6AP behind DFT. Badge of the Swarmguard (multi-targets) and Renataki's Charm of the Beast (Slayers/Jom/Earthstrike --> Aim Shot --> (before next Aim shot) --> Rapid Fire --> end of Rapid Fire double up Aimshot with Charm --> FD --> Swap to Blackhands/Seal) should be swapped during combat (depending on the situation). And rank 12 gloves is probably 1-2% DPS, definitely not 5%, only affects Multi-shot, but still BIS. Also I'd get revive pet, the amount of times your pet will die, it is well worth it.
Hey, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. I love when people contribute, as this makes it more like a community effort to discover the depths of classic wow.
@@Frostadamus Cheers. To add, with 2set tier 3 you should be able to use Rapid Fire straight away with first AP trinket (Slayers/Jom/Earthstrike) and still be able to use Charm while RF is active (just have to be quick on the trigger).
Ally bis: -Full t3 except gloves are R12 -cloak of the fallen god -prestors -kingsfall / harbringer of doom -nerubIan slavemaker w/ dmg scope -cryptstalker ring / band of reanimation -trinket swapping 4 trinkets (jom gabbar and renatakis/ slayers crest and mark of the champion)
U forgot eye of nerubian for melee weaving but other than that great video. Will be going for Kingsfall / Hatchet of Sundered bone personally for my 1handers
Does Mark of the Champion work for Hunter? On era, I have guildies testing it saying it doesn't work (AP isn't added to ranged AP) but all top logs use it. Need help!
So you talk about minmaxing, have weapons that belong to melee classes instead and then you don't even mention melee weaving which is 100+ DPS increase no matter which ranged weapon you have?
Is the miniscule damage to your pet really worth giving up Lightning Reflexes? Id rather have another 5% crit and 90 atk pwr. Even more on alliance. With world buffs and kings You're giving up around 200 atk pwr and 7% crit for a little bit of pet damage. 10% bonus HP helps keep them world buffs too ;).
It isn't Beast Mastery that is the issue with Lightning Reflexes, it is you lose True Shot aura. Basically this is 400-500AP to your other melee which far outweighs your own minor buff from extra agility. When Classic is depending on melee damage so much, you basically have to stay Marksmen.
We actually had an Iblis go to a hunter today. All the r14 warriors/rogues just didn't seem to care. Guess they have eyes on KT stuff :D And we have had 2 kingsfalls. Just 1 more then free for hunters.
@@Madnessofdwing Yeah, but it isn't impossible thats my point. Seen a lot of AQR hunters, badge, kots. So not bad showing what is BiS imo. If we do naxx 9 months or w/e, every1 will have everything. (almost) But optional BiS/more realistic BiS, should always be shown too.
Bro I see Hunters walking around my server with Thunderfury, you really think there's gonna be a huge issue getting these? Just be patient, work up to your loot council, or be prepared to spend your gold if you're in a gdkp, but you really don't need luck. We haven't even gotten one yet but who is really contesting Kingsfall? Rogues? Who's pve spec and going dagger rogue? Certainly nobody in my guild. Warriors? Yeah there's the occasional Aged Core Leather Gloves wearing warrior using Death's Sting, but the chances they will also have QSR or Pugio so Kingsfall may not even be an upgrade for them. As for Iblis, you might have a little more competition, but (at least for Horde side) Warriors mostly want axes (Orc racial) or if they aren't an orc and want to go for swords, they will likely need The Hungering Cold for swords skill, and Gressil is always going to be BiS. Maybe they have edgies so they don't need The Hungering Cold, so they may go for Iblis, but more realistically they want AQR, Chromatically Tempered Sword, Maladath, or the R14 swords. Rogues are in the same boat where a swords rogue will be going for Gressil as their main hand, and their off hand could have Iblis, but could be replaced by a number of things including R14 sword, Hungering Cold, Maladath, or Vis'Kag
Cc hold quest cloak gives 1% hit and only 6 AP less. I run 8% hit and 9% hit for tranq bosses with that cc unseen path cloak and I'm one of the top 3 on server for naxx so far. Underated cloak imo and I also believe we only need 9% hit on tranq bosses. I rarely miss a shot with 8% and can pump more dps instead.
I do the same I raid with 8% hit and got 98,2 average, and out dps 9%hit hunters in my guild with no problem. Eye of nerub melee weave is the best for sure
i would def drop that +7 dmg and trade it with biznicks. in that way you can better play around with ur choices imo. furthermore you have to switch trinkets for some bosses (i.e. renetakis for quick fights etc.)
@@MITZILIPIKILI wow toxic your prob a human male war with No keybinds expecting Hunters to pass loot to your dumb ass. Or maybe your just tired og getting ganked by Them 24/7 kekL
Kiss is obviously a great trinket but hunters don't exactly scale well with haste cause it doesn't change how often they can aimed shot/multi shot. Not to mention just about every single guild is going to give kiss to any melee/tank waaaay before they give it to a hunter.
What’s with all the dislikes on everyone’s recent wow classic videos lol. I feel like retail babies follow classic you tubers just to dislike the great vids 🤣🤣
In the top guilds of the world? Maybe not. But anything a part from that it is worth having 2-3, whether pulling, tranq or other aspects. A skilled Hunter can get top DPS on some fights in most progression guilds.
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As a Hunter, a few things: Leather legs that are the other option are from the Four Horsemen, there is also the WSG legging. As I Hunter I hate the idea of taking DFT because Hunters SHOULD be trinket swapping, and therefore the Hit is completely useless, in that case most of the time Seal of the Dawn is better with Royal Seal only 6AP behind DFT. Badge of the Swarmguard (multi-targets) and Renataki's Charm of the Beast (Slayers/Jom/Earthstrike --> Aim Shot --> (before next Aim shot) --> Rapid Fire --> end of Rapid Fire double up Aimshot with Charm --> FD --> Swap to Blackhands/Seal) should be swapped during combat (depending on the situation). And rank 12 gloves is probably 1-2% DPS, definitely not 5%, only affects Multi-shot, but still BIS. Also I'd get revive pet, the amount of times your pet will die, it is well worth it.
Hey, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience.
I love when people contribute, as this makes it more like a community effort to discover the depths of classic wow.
@@Frostadamus Cheers. To add, with 2set tier 3 you should be able to use Rapid Fire straight away with first AP trinket (Slayers/Jom/Earthstrike) and still be able to use Charm while RF is active (just have to be quick on the trigger).
Love the video glad your're back brother!
AMAZING video Frost! Keep it up! Love to see you back
Ally bis:
-Full t3 except gloves are R12
-cloak of the fallen god
-prestors
-kingsfall / harbringer of doom
-nerubIan slavemaker w/ dmg scope
-cryptstalker ring / band of reanimation
-trinket swapping 4 trinkets (jom gabbar and renatakis/ slayers crest and mark of the champion)
Love how he starts with hunter cos thats my main.
U forgot eye of nerubian for melee weaving but other than that great video. Will be going for Kingsfall / Hatchet of Sundered bone personally for my 1handers
7 months of raiding BWL with my guild and weve only seen 1 Prestor's feelsbadman
Aw man, sorry for you
Does Mark of the Champion work for Hunter? On era, I have guildies testing it saying it doesn't work (AP isn't added to ranged AP) but all top logs use it. Need help!
Hey, can you do same video for another classes?
gonna cover each class, next video tomorrow
Nice Video.
BiS imo would be this, but add Eye of Nerub instead of the 1handers and go Survival and melee weave for absolute max dps output.
Thank Yo
Warlock next !
So you talk about minmaxing, have weapons that belong to melee classes instead and then you don't even mention melee weaving which is 100+ DPS increase no matter which ranged weapon you have?
It was a gear list video. Not a video about how to play a hunter optimally
Is the miniscule damage to your pet really worth giving up Lightning Reflexes? Id rather have another 5% crit and 90 atk pwr. Even more on alliance. With world buffs and kings You're giving up around 200 atk pwr and 7% crit for a little bit of pet damage. 10% bonus HP helps keep them world buffs too ;).
It isn't Beast Mastery that is the issue with Lightning Reflexes, it is you lose True Shot aura. Basically this is 400-500AP to your other melee which far outweighs your own minor buff from extra agility. When Classic is depending on melee damage so much, you basically have to stay Marksmen.
Marksman is pretty much a demand for naxxramas, you cannot reach ligtning reflexes if you get TSA.
Feels bad.
HAHA Good luck getting Kingsfall and iblis as hunter xD
We actually had an Iblis go to a hunter today. All the r14 warriors/rogues just didn't seem to care. Guess they have eyes on KT stuff :D
And we have had 2 kingsfalls. Just 1 more then free for hunters.
@@KarvidSR exactly, you were lucky.
@@Madnessofdwing Yeah, but it isn't impossible thats my point. Seen a lot of AQR hunters, badge, kots. So not bad showing what is BiS imo.
If we do naxx 9 months or w/e, every1 will have everything. (almost)
But optional BiS/more realistic BiS, should always be shown too.
Bro I see Hunters walking around my server with Thunderfury, you really think there's gonna be a huge issue getting these? Just be patient, work up to your loot council, or be prepared to spend your gold if you're in a gdkp, but you really don't need luck. We haven't even gotten one yet but who is really contesting Kingsfall? Rogues? Who's pve spec and going dagger rogue? Certainly nobody in my guild. Warriors? Yeah there's the occasional Aged Core Leather Gloves wearing warrior using Death's Sting, but the chances they will also have QSR or Pugio so Kingsfall may not even be an upgrade for them. As for Iblis, you might have a little more competition, but (at least for Horde side) Warriors mostly want axes (Orc racial) or if they aren't an orc and want to go for swords, they will likely need The Hungering Cold for swords skill, and Gressil is always going to be BiS. Maybe they have edgies so they don't need The Hungering Cold, so they may go for Iblis, but more realistically they want AQR, Chromatically Tempered Sword, Maladath, or the R14 swords. Rogues are in the same boat where a swords rogue will be going for Gressil as their main hand, and their off hand could have Iblis, but could be replaced by a number of things including R14 sword, Hungering Cold, Maladath, or Vis'Kag
Cc hold quest cloak gives 1% hit and only 6 AP less. I run 8% hit and 9% hit for tranq bosses with that cc unseen path cloak and I'm one of the top 3 on server for naxx so far. Underated cloak imo and I also believe we only need 9% hit on tranq bosses. I rarely miss a shot with 8% and can pump more dps instead.
I do the same I raid with 8% hit and got 98,2 average, and out dps 9%hit hunters in my guild with no problem. Eye of nerub melee weave is the best for sure
I really want T3, but I dont feel fine in the classic community.. Eh.. maybe some years down the road.
i would def drop that +7 dmg and trade it with biznicks. in that way you can better play around with ur choices imo. furthermore you have to switch trinkets for some bosses (i.e. renetakis for quick fights etc.)
i got eye of nerub wich is very good for me
Cant get the cloak, trinket, or weps since My guild prio everything to wars :/
No shit genius
@@MITZILIPIKILI wow toxic your prob a human male war with No keybinds expecting Hunters to pass loot to your dumb ass. Or maybe your just tired og getting ganked by Them 24/7 kekL
On Alliance, the Hatchet could be snatched up by a Hunter without issue, on Horde.. get ready to beat off all the orc warriors lol
gotta let the Zugs zug to their heart's content
Being literal Hunter base you need to be a survival Hunter. You take lightning reflexes which gives you an extra 15% agility
makes 0 sense to have dft as a trinket you are on 11% hit when you can be 9% hit and kt trinket
9/8 set? Rank 13 Gloves are just to good
If you already have them, sure.
go survival for agi bonus
i thought hunters only need 9% hit
I think it was 9% yeah. Also the weapons and trinkets mentioned in this video are not BIS. This is not a very good informative video.
Really no kiss of the spider trinket?
Kiss is obviously a great trinket but hunters don't exactly scale well with haste cause it doesn't change how often they can aimed shot/multi shot. Not to mention just about every single guild is going to give kiss to any melee/tank waaaay before they give it to a hunter.
Iblis realy? =D
What’s with all the dislikes on everyone’s recent wow classic videos lol. I feel like retail babies follow classic you tubers just to dislike the great vids 🤣🤣
Cause dumb ass classic boomers don’t realize classic is dead. Know what’s BIS? Most the shit from naxx!
Lot's of people quit or got burnt out and many we're waiting for shadowlands as an excuse to get away :D
They'll come back once TBC is announced.
hunters - competitive. Pick one
In the top guilds of the world? Maybe not. But anything a part from that it is worth having 2-3, whether pulling, tranq or other aspects. A skilled Hunter can get top DPS on some fights in most progression guilds.
anything that isnt a warrior - competitive. pick one
@@Roofhack Warrior in their sleep does more damage than Hunters, sadly. I main a hunter.
1st? 😁
Yet another BIS list that is never happening unless you're a GM, streamer or saudi prince.
It's possible. If you're raiding on a dkp or epgp guild.
Or a GM like you said :D
this guy is clueless