They've basically won at that point. Dying old is a privilege in this universe. So be threatened by a fairly painless death at this point is probably not even in the top 100 worst case scenarios for them.
@@fionnleamy844 no it’s not just her. Listen again you can hear two laughs/cuddles one is hers and the others is Pedro’s you can even see his body/arms move when he does it.
I’m surprised no one’s pointed this out, but it’s interesting how the sound moves in and out of fading/echoey during Joel’s panic attack. It adds another layer on top of the visual techniques used in the scene and makes it feel much more accurate.
Joel in the show is a different person than Joel in the game, but it's a much more realistic take on the character. I like how they depicted his PTSD and how utterly debilitating a sudden panic attack can be, literally makes you feel like you're dying.
The reason for that one is because his feelings as a father to Ellie is growing... he is afraid that Ellie will end up like her daughter. That is also the reason why he wants Tommy to deliver her to the fireflies instead of him, to detached that feeling.
It's a panic attack. The last time he was this attached to someone was with his daughter and she literally died in his arms, so it's bringing up a lot of traumatic memories for him.
In the game there’s evidence that he was taking anxiety medicine… losing his daughter, not being able to find his brother, taking care of Ellie as she resembles his daughter and not having anxiety medicine is taking a toll on him
They wanted to make Joel appear weak in this show vs in the game where he's staying stoic and strong the whole time and only losing it when he came face to face with the fact that he might lose a daughter all over again.
I know panic attacks are serious but I was actually scared he was having a heart attack. Physical health problems are not something you wanna have in an apocalypse. At the very least, he has someone he can count on to support him through these times: Ellie. 🖤
yes i had mild ones as a younger kid -thought it was normal then at 50 a full blown one -- terrible was able to get meds that helped lots .. but life beating on you is a struggle
I like the theory that this old couple knew exactly what the town Jackson was, but maybe not who ran it. They told anyone who came asking to stay away from the area for their own good- which was true from a certain point of view- in exchange for supplies. Them not knowing who the Fireflies are has zero impact on this.
@@LaymanGamin I think he means that the leaders of Jackson bribed the old couple to dissuade any travelers from seeking out the settlement. The couple doesn't know that one of those leaders is Joel's brother.
As someone who has random panic attacks, the worst feeling isn't that you're about to die. The worst feeling is that your entire conciousness is getting disconnected from the real world. It's indescribable to those who never got it, but the closest related thing would be as if everything isn't real and you need to wake up from a dream that isn't there. It's such a frightening and debilitating feeling that it stops me dead in my tracks. The way it's pictured here resembles quite well how it starts before it gets worse.
This is pretty accurate. I remember being in a spirit halloween years ago, and for some reason I wasbhaving really bad thoughts, and then the faces on the masks and the ghouls and stuff (none of which bother me) must have triggered me, because my brain went into fight or flight mode, and I felt like I had to get out of there but could barely move. It was like information overload, intense situational confusion, like my brain was telling me I was being attacked even though nothing was wrong. Horrible feeling.
I was in a school shooting once, I ran into this interior classroom and opened a door to a connecting class to tell them there was a shooting but I couldn’t get any words out of my mouth I just kinda made sounds at them and then closed the door. Like my brain just shut down
I experienced basically the same thing when watching Cabin In the Woods many years back. I was already generally anxious and stressed about my life situation at that point, but for some strange instinctual reason, it only went into a full blown panic attack when I saw the monsters in that movie.
Aw! So nice to see Graham Greene and Elaine Miles! Loved Graham Greene in Last of the Mohicans and Maverick (the Mel Gibson movie, not the Top Gun movie, lol), and I remember Elaine Miles from Northern Exposure. Her voice hasn't changed at all!
Came here for the Northern Exposure reference. This episode aired while my mother was receiving chemo treatments and we would watch it together when she rested. She's a big Northern Exposure fan so this was spot on for her.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the way the old couple seems to enjoy Ellie so much makes me think she reminds them of their own child. That, or it had just been a really long time since they'd seen a kid
How could they know what is going on in Laramie, since they mention Cody I assume this is taking part in the northern part of Wyoming and Laramie is way to the south by Colorado
Only thing I don’t like is they say it’s 3 months after the last episode. That’s a HELL of a gap in the story. Joel and Ellie together all that time and we don’t see any of it. Also in 3 months they could have marched from Kansas to Utah and back again a few times. 😆
It's an adaptation of the source material, Joel having PTSD and panic attacks about losing another daughter is pretty faithful to the game, they are just framing it in a different way
Joel had no panic attacks in the game… they had to make him weak and soft because god in heaven we are not allowed to have strong male characters anymore
Joel literally took meds for anxiety even before the outbreak in the game 💀 if anything the series just shows more realistically what happens when you have mental health issues unmedicated in the apocalypse
I love how calm the elderly couple is, just cracking jokes while at gunpoint
They've basically won at that point. Dying old is a privilege in this universe. So be threatened by a fairly painless death at this point is probably not even in the top 100 worst case scenarios for them.
@@LordNinja109 this yep.. Also grahme green is a Canadian treasure he's so good in everything he does even cold case files
We must protect them at all cost
@@kittycatcat6962 I remember him from the classic thunder heart movie from back in the day. I'd recognize him anywhere 👍🏿😎
@@SithLordNefaar022 thunder heart with val Kilmer... That's a movie right there 👌
Even TLOU has a better depiction of panic attacks than Velma
I mean literally anything has a better depiction of panic attacks than Velma, but yeah this one's pretty decent
To be fair why wouldn’t a serious drama have a more accurate panic attack than a cartoon
@@througheverything animated shows and films also have serious depictions of panic attacks. Ex. Puss in boots 2
@@lumossk3657 even puss in boots the last wish when puss have a panic attack his friend comfort him let him relax and calm
Did oo find it upsetting cos she kissed a girl and it wasn't like it is in porn films? Bless oo. 😂
2 good native American actors -- she played on Northern Exposure
Marilyn Whirlwind!
And he played one of the death row inmates in the green mile.
@@alexcarter2461He also played Rainsfalls in RDR2.
You can hear Pedro laugh at 1:36 and see his body/arms move when he chuckles
thats the womans laugh, but it seems like he cracked up too and they muted his voice.
@@MoneyyyOG na you can definitely hear his real voice doing a laugh.
@@MoneyyyOGyou can hear his laugh before the lady.
That's the woman
@@fionnleamy844 no it’s not just her. Listen again you can hear two laughs/cuddles one is hers and the others is Pedro’s you can even see his body/arms move when he does it.
Ellie had such an optimistic voice saying all they had to do was to cross the river of death 😂
idk why but ellie just taking a rabbit with her is killing me
I was like babe he’s having a panic attack
If you close your eyes you can hear Rains Fall from Red Dead Redemption 2.
That's because it's him
2:38 😂😂😂😂 i love this lady
Brings back funny memories of watching Northern exposure and dances with wolves. Great scene.
Graham Green should have won that Oscar for his role as Kicking Bird, on ‘Dances With Wolves’. He is a very talented actor. Pedro Pascal 👍👍👏👏❣️
I’m surprised no one’s pointed this out, but it’s interesting how the sound moves in and out of fading/echoey during Joel’s panic attack. It adds another layer on top of the visual techniques used in the scene and makes it feel much more accurate.
Joel in the show is a different person than Joel in the game, but it's a much more realistic take on the character. I like how they depicted his PTSD and how utterly debilitating a sudden panic attack can be, literally makes you feel like you're dying.
The husband is the same guy who plays Rain Falls from RDR2!
That husband must be some hunter.
Yeah and whatever he hunts his wife must eat most of it 😬
was that a panic attack? cause I have those more often than the other panic attacks ive had...
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you rains fall from rdr 2
they funny asf
The old man was rains falls in rdr2 I can’t remember his name but I recognized the voice right away
Howah LoL non natives don't know that slang i laughed when i heard that
Fr😂
Can anyone tell me why he's having this weird cold air feeling? please I'm desperate to know.
The reason for that one is because his feelings as a father to Ellie is growing... he is afraid that Ellie will end up like her daughter. That is also the reason why he wants Tommy to deliver her to the fireflies instead of him, to detached that feeling.
Panic attacks. The last time he was a father his daughter died in his arms. Hes starting to feel like a dad again, its digging up past trauma
It's a panic attack. The last time he was this attached to someone was with his daughter and she literally died in his arms, so it's bringing up a lot of traumatic memories for him.
Thank you guys I appreciate it! 👍
In the game there’s evidence that he was taking anxiety medicine… losing his daughter, not being able to find his brother, taking care of Ellie as she resembles his daughter and not having anxiety medicine is taking a toll on him
👍👍
Why was he having a panic attack?
They wanted to make Joel appear weak in this show vs in the game where he's staying stoic and strong the whole time and only losing it when he came face to face with the fact that he might lose a daughter all over again.
Because he is human and feels enormous fear when he realizes that Ellie's life and his own are in real danger.
@@ErickKazzoie_2006 The game did it better. We did not constantly see Joel looking weak like this
@@Excalibur01 I agree, it did it better, but the show is good.
@@ErickKazzoie_2006 The show is not bad but it's the little things that changed and added that makes it a bit off
"you made um soup?"
"you tell him the truth?"
"yah"
"...you tellin me the truth?"
"........yah...."
I know panic attacks are serious but I was actually scared he was having a heart attack. Physical health problems are not something you wanna have in an apocalypse. At the very least, he has someone he can count on to support him through these times: Ellie. 🖤
Me too
That's what I was saying. Starter of a heart attack. Stress is a silent killer.
yes i had mild ones as a younger kid -thought it was normal then at 50 a full blown one -- terrible was able to get meds that helped lots .. but life beating on you is a struggle
Turns out you don't want them in a pandemic either. Plenty of people kept from seeing their doctors.
Same 😅
Any other rdr2 fans know that voice as rains falls like immediately 😂
Now that you mentioned it, It clicks, never realised
Yep. I very much know it. I don't know if it's just me but his Voice matches Rains Fall's face a little more than the Actor himself.
Dude's voice is Legendary
Thank God I wasn't going insane
"I had a brother, I'm looking for him... I also had a daughter... she died a lon-"
"EXCuse me I gotta pick some ginseng!"
Not gonna lie, when Joel told Ellie to shut up when he had a heart attack, I giggled 😂😂
The fact that he gets annoyed by her so easily is hilarious
Panic attack...not heart attack.
Panic attack
Kids are annoying
Thats what happens when theres background noise you just immediately tell them to shut up or leave you alone because it makes it worse
I can't get over the depth of emotion in Pedro Pascal's eyes...he says so much without words
REAL
I like the theory that this old couple knew exactly what the town Jackson was, but maybe not who ran it. They told anyone who came asking to stay away from the area for their own good- which was true from a certain point of view- in exchange for supplies. Them not knowing who the Fireflies are has zero impact on this.
Huh?
@@LaymanGamin I think he means that the leaders of Jackson bribed the old couple to dissuade any travelers from seeking out the settlement. The couple doesn't know that one of those leaders is Joel's brother.
As someone who has random panic attacks, the worst feeling isn't that you're about to die. The worst feeling is that your entire conciousness is getting disconnected from the real world. It's indescribable to those who never got it, but the closest related thing would be as if everything isn't real and you need to wake up from a dream that isn't there. It's such a frightening and debilitating feeling that it stops me dead in my tracks. The way it's pictured here resembles quite well how it starts before it gets worse.
and the elephant on your chest, the not being able to breathe, feeling trapped with no hope of escape and nobody can help you.
I wish no one should go through this feeling
I would love to see the bloopers for this scene in particular 😂 I bet they’re even funnier.
"Joel? Who cares what happens to you, you're not in the next season!" 😅
I feel like Joel’s panic attack is a nod to the original concept of The Last Of Us where Joel was originally gonna be a cop with a heart condition.
Lol that's a terrible theory
@@borris3768 bait
This is pretty accurate. I remember being in a spirit halloween years ago, and for some reason I wasbhaving really bad thoughts, and then the faces on the masks and the ghouls and stuff (none of which bother me) must have triggered me, because my brain went into fight or flight mode, and I felt like I had to get out of there but could barely move. It was like information overload, intense situational confusion, like my brain was telling me I was being attacked even though nothing was wrong. Horrible feeling.
I was in a school shooting once, I ran into this interior classroom and opened a door to a connecting class to tell them there was a shooting but I couldn’t get any words out of my mouth I just kinda made sounds at them and then closed the door. Like my brain just shut down
I experienced basically the same thing when watching Cabin In the Woods many years back. I was already generally anxious and stressed about my life situation at that point, but for some strange instinctual reason, it only went into a full blown panic attack when I saw the monsters in that movie.
Aw! So nice to see Graham Greene and Elaine Miles! Loved Graham Greene in Last of the Mohicans and Maverick (the Mel Gibson movie, not the Top Gun movie, lol), and I remember Elaine Miles from Northern Exposure. Her voice hasn't changed at all!
Graham Greene played Marilyn's cousin Leonard
Quinhagak on Northern Exposure.
Graham wasn’t in last of the Mohicans. You might be thinking of Dances with Wolves. He was also in green Mile
Elaine is awesome! Spoke with her once, she's hilarious, kind and down-to-earth
Came here for the Northern Exposure reference. This episode aired while my mother was receiving chemo treatments and we would watch it together when she rested. She's a big Northern Exposure fan so this was spot on for her.
Joel are you okay? *-SHUT UP…* -Are you dying???
Excellent depiction of a “cold air, all of the sudden” attack.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the way the old couple seems to enjoy Ellie so much makes me think she reminds them of their own child. That, or it had just been a really long time since they'd seen a kid
If you gotta map why you lost 🤣🤣🤣 good logic
Aha a lung problem in cold air is a "panic attack" mhm. Perfectly diagnosed :D
Reminds me of my native grandma and grandpa
Same!
Rains Falls 🔥
“There are firefly people?”
I love the old lady in this scene
I hope that old couple who survive the show they’ve more than earned it
All I hear is rains fall from RDR2 😂😭
Kinda
I had the exact same thing!
@@eliteduels "Kinda" ? My brother in Christ, they are literally the same actor
That's so racist I'm reporting you
@@borris3768 bait
Fun fact: The old man is Rains Fall from Red Dead Redemption 2
How could they know what is going on in Laramie, since they mention Cody I assume this is taking part in the northern part of Wyoming and Laramie is way to the south by Colorado
Only thing I don’t like is they say it’s 3 months after the last episode.
That’s a HELL of a gap in the story. Joel and Ellie together all that time and we don’t see any of it.
Also in 3 months they could have marched from Kansas to Utah and back again a few times. 😆
Yeah in a time where there's no zombies, bandits, road blockages, over grown roads, etc.
I get it I’m an older sister I would die if my little sister died I’d die
Man that Part 2 music when they left the Cabin. Had that PS4 Dynamic Theme for a while
When Netflix cancelled the Gorillaz movie: *Panic attack scene*
Same netflix was such a joke
Joel's Lucky Edgar didn't blow them all up😂
I still can't believe thats Rain Falls from RDR2
The guy sounds like he voices rains fall from rdr2 when he says “who’s this little psycho” tell me if I’m wrong
Yes, “the river of death” 💀💀
I cant not picture him as Mando
Dang, Rainsfall met ellie. RDR2 meets Tlou
God I love Graham Greene
The trailer for the scene of the old lady saying "Scared him" sounded like they edited it making it like she said "scared you", speaking to Ellie.
What episode of “Northern Exposure” is this? lol
i only hear mando voice
Same he made his voice deeper here like in the mandalorian
I know it’s a bit off topic but you can see from this why Jedi are anti attachment, because in a way they are in fact a weakness …
I think Lucas really doesn't understand the concept of the bonds between a master and apprentice and assumes attachment is a weakness
I really liked this scene.
That’s rainsfall from red dead 2
Lol
Graham Greene plays a good roll on reservation dogs and rdr2!
doesn’t look like a panic attack. looks like he’s having old age or heart problem symptoms rather
Talk about couple goals.
This scene was priceless!
Please bring this couple back in season 2! Get Ellie to convince them to move to Jackson or something. They were great.
🤣🤭why shouldn't they? ☝️In real life?he's already toast.👍😎
There are firefly people 😂
I hope that couple is alive and living in Jackson in the next season.
Oh, I remember her from Northern Exposure.
And a meme was born.
MY MAN IN THE CABINS A FELLA FROMT HE RED GREEN SHOW
set some dynamite my man
I love this scene. The character dynamic of the strangers alone is really charming and immersive.
2:37--2:46 lol
So that's the meme scene
The great Graham Greene!!!❤😂👏
That's Arlen Bitterbuck
Funny 😄
What's funny?
Rainsfalls!
Marilyn Whirlwind!
I know! I could tell be the voice!
0% chance there's people that fat in an apocalypse what are we thinking hbo
That's some Lost bs
OH MIII GOOODDD IM ABOOUTTAA PANICCCK
Ellie isn't this selfish in the game.
How was she selfish?
@Flyingboat how is that selfish?
She aint selfish, she's a survivor
@@poindexter5059 100%
She also has more sass
This did NOT happen in the game. He was NOT one step away from losing it.
They didn't meet two old people in the middle of nowhere warning them about a river of death ether, it's an adaptation.
@@sapermader2198 people have no idea what adapt actually means
and that is a problem why?
@@Excalibur01 well your included apparently
It's an adaptation of the source material, Joel having PTSD and panic attacks about losing another daughter is pretty faithful to the game, they are just framing it in a different way
Joel had no panic attacks in the game… they had to make him weak and soft because god in heaven we are not allowed to have strong male characters anymore
Since when does having panic attacks make someone weak????
Are you an omega male? It's ok to admit it. 😂 You need a big and strong alpha to calm you down.
The end of the game was essentially one big panic attack. Joel has always canonically had anxiety and PSTD. What are you on about?
Having a mental health condition you didn't choose, makes you weak? 😅
Joel literally took meds for anxiety even before the outbreak in the game 💀 if anything the series just shows more realistically what happens when you have mental health issues unmedicated in the apocalypse