Doom's Oldest World Record Was Finally Beaten!
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
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After 26 years Doom's oldest speedrunning record has finally fallen.
@4shockblast run: • Doom 2 Map 01 Pacifist...
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I love Doom speedrunning so much.
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Good video. I'm gonna get myself a Doom displate. Thanks for the recommend Karl. :)
What are your thoughts on Doom 3
@@MetaITurtle I never actually played Doom 3 because the look/feel didn't interest me.
@ohhadivist AI is legitimate so itll be fine
True achievment here is that Karl managed to make 23 minute long vid about 4 seconds run, what an absolute legend 😂
Billy Mitchell alt account 💀💀
@@sellerspiano9811Milly Bltchell is dead bro, his funeral was held and paid by Karl. Let Silly Mitchell rest in pieces.
@@jaymexxumay he rest in bed with you 🙏
The video is not about the 4 seconds run, it's about the 100k attempts to perfect it and also the 30 years history behind it.
@@fbgmerk8178 No idea where you live to think the dead rest in a bed but hey, if you wanna sleep with your mother so be it. 🙏
Hi Karl, I recently found out about the hardships you’ve been going through, and I just want to give you my sincerest condolences for the loss of your mother and the surgery you’ve had to go through for cancer. I hope things get better for you and your family, and just remember we all have your back. Have a good one Karl.
thanks for that
@@karljobst No problem man. Love your videos too by the way, so does my dad.
Billy Mitchell is A liar and a wanker.
Rip
😑🙏🏾
10:00Karl: "You see SSlasher lost a frame here by not opening the door earlier"
Me (who can't beat Doom2): "HA! What an idiot!"
How far did you get?
@@RaceBandit He is still trying very hard to finish the first level
Me (sipping on imaginary wine and wearing royal shit): pfft, what an absolute imbecile! How could he make such a silly mistake?!
24-year old me in 1993 would never have imagined that as a 54-year old I would be watching a 24-minute video end-to-end "online" about a sub 5-second Doom run in 2024. What a time to be alive! Oh, sorry. Wrong channel. ;-)
I hope you didn't get stuckmanized.
I'm so happy it's a "Old record was beaten" video and not a "Yet another person got caught cheating" video.
I find both of them fascinating due to the technical explanation, but I agree with you since one always ends in a sour note while the other just puts a smile in my face
Every "old record was beaten" video has the potential to become a "that person actually cheated" video someday down the line, though we always hope it won't.
SAME. It’s been 6 months man
All speedrunners cheat
@@The_Omegaman That's just simply not true. Most people in the community are really good, dedicated people, and enjoy the grind.
so, you're telling me demonlord ate a horse
Probably two now...
So you're telling me there's a chance? 🎉
I'll go look up some recipes!
he ate a giraffe now
looks like zebra's on the menu, boys
Thing Running’ is one of the best terms in gaming.
Achievements like these are why I rarely say that something is "impossible".
Three seconds? Well, "we have no TAS at the moment", "we wouldn't know how to do it right now", "not to our knowledge", but new strats and glitches have been found in other games, even after decades, before.
The fighting spirit with which runners go at these challenges is truly inspiring, and Karl, your videos about them are an absolute blast to watch. You've really perfected the way you report about them and seeing your video about a game I play myself as well on my feed instantly makes my day. Thank you!
I don't get how people still say certain runs are impossible, especially on newer games that clearly haven't been completely dissected yet
"This task can really drive you mad! And 5 seconds [for the speedrun] isn't possible, if you do it I'll eat a horse", Demonlord 1995 (at 4:43 ) ...
You are absolutely right, Heiko. There are people who regularly eat horses. What seems impossible for one is just daily basis for the other.
Hehehehehe, have a good one!
Nonetheless the achievements of these nerds are impressive and I could not do it even in triple time:)
@@Ultimaximus Well, at their core, these statements are simply emotion-based claims (or if someone doesn't want to be too harsh: "educated guesses"), ideas, forecasts and predictions. And the only thing that we know (and what predictions funnily can't provide) is the certainty that predictions are just guesses or partly a guess and therefore based on chance ... which makes them definitively unreliable and less important for anything.
But who cares? That is absolutely basic human behavior. Everyone does it and this is nothing bad or good or something new, because every sane adult knows about it and should be able to handle such (superfluous?) calendar-sayings and remarks.
This applies to all aspects of life and even science, where we predict something or postulate a model that may describe processes in nature (EMPIRICAL science!), which we then have to check with experiments and/or by observation.
I hope now (after I generalized and complicated things, hehehe) you can "get how/why people make claims", hehe.
P.S.: Oh and the guys who just tell nonsense because they do like everything BUT learning, research, the processes about science I mentioned above ... and don't care about of being honest to their fellow humans (like liars, scammers, busybodies, flat-earthers and governors of Florida) ... I don't have an answer or any clue why they are doing this or why they choose to be that way.
Have a good game, Ultimaximus!:)
Yea but unless they are using a pc from the 90's it should not count, yea a emulator can be set to that but its still not REALLY the same. Doing these records on much newer faster better equipment should not count
@@dixiedad If the hardware changes anything, it's primarily going to result in making the game harder, not easier.
Karl: Back in 1998, over 20 years ago.
Me, who turned 40 today: ...And now I will crumble into dust.
Happy birthday! Here's to many more, you ABSOLUTE LEGEND
Grats, I turned 35 today. I have a few years till dustification
Happy Birthday!
Congrats brother
Happy Birthday! I'll be joining you in the dreaded 40somethings in a couple months. Dust crumbling high fives
After grinding for years on the Doom Speedrun Discord asking for an Doom 2 E1M1 4 second run, on April 16th, 2024, Karl Jobst achieved this video...
I gotta admit... Im a grown ass man but...everytime Karl does one of those in a vid... " And on the 6th of April 2024...This speedrunner achieved....this run"... I get chills. 😂😂😂
@@Vitamin-G85 same man. thats what im all here for since the beginning.
22:25 over 100,000 attempts??? That's absolutely *mental* dedication.
166 hours of attempts if you ignore load times
Considering the run is ~5 seconds, thats like 6 days of gameplay, lol.
100,000 on a fruitless achievment, what a waste
@@42smash36 That's how I would feel and thus why I'm not going to even try (I hate grinding in general, so speed running is obviously not for me), but I won't say it was a waste of time for him. People have different preferences and want to do different things with their lives, like the guy who wants to cross an ocean in a gigantic hamsterball.
@@42smash36 Rationally speaking, _everything_ is fruitless. We make our own meaning.
A thing or accomplishment is important to us, or to a community, because we decide that it is.
Silly Bitchell did it in 3 seconds today. He recorded the TV screen with a 3€ camera, while being outside through a dirty window. He sent the VHS tape to twin galaxies already.
Wait, what colour was the doomguy?
I heard they found the tape in Osama Bin Laden's dumpster behind a 7/11
Now you're going to get sued.
Imagine caring about done Billy Mitchell drama
@@daddyfuse50 This is an account dedicated to speedruns and you're mad people are talking about speedruns
"5 seconds? pfffft.." - Billy Mitchell, 2024
I believe Billy Mitchell sued the fifth second for insulting his hair.
@@TheFinalMBthis gave me a chuckle, have a like :D
:insert crudely put together video splice of the start and the finish of the level as proof of beating in 3 seconds:
I bet he could do 4.96
And get a plaque from Doom Guy
" Local man runs really fast to the exit of hell "
I heard he was angry.
Hell on earth that is 😉
Hearing "Adam went wide in the brown room and made contact with walls" is so Trackmania lol
Romero nearly 30 years ago: "Yeah, 30 seconds seems like a good time to complete this level going as fast as you can"
I think that's for finding everything and killing all the monsters
Something Id also like to add to even further convince you how much of a beast 4shock is, (If that even needed doing) is the fact he also beat every single other category for the level too, UVMax, Nightmare Speed, Tyson, all of them. While 4.97 is by far the most impressive run, Its rare for a player to be able to compete at the absolute highest level in every category, and it truly is incredibly impressive.
Nice profile pic! I love seeing that other people have played Oneshot, it’s such a hidden gem.
Usualy when I hear that it turns out they were cheating in some way
@@paixeon8816 Its fair to be skeptical, but 4Shock got this run on stream, and also has the thousands upon thousands of demo attempts from DSDA to prove it, so I wouldn't be too worried :)
@@paixeon8816 cheating without getting caught in classic doom is definitely not happening
The only way you could even cheat a demo file that doesnt outright give away cheating is a TAS, and well, pretty hard to TAS on stream the way 4shock plays on stream
@@paixeon8816I thought the same thing but in this case I will believe in the truth of the matter simply because cheating in Doom is barely possible. And basically impossible without being caught
Thanks to all Doom runners for ramping up the pressure for decades, to all fans for media interest, without either this wouldn't have been such a blast. And to Karl for amazing coverage.
I find it fascinating that even people like me with zero interest in joining the speedrunning community still enjoy hearing about achievements like this. I'm guessing it's admiration for the sheer dedication from all those involved.
@@The_SafeKeeper Im happy that there are people like you out there with a spontaneous interest in this game. It helps immmensely.
Fr I wouldn't know jack about some really cool stuff if it weren't for Karl
@@The_SafeKeeper for real. I have 0 interest in doing anything speedrunning, i question the sanity of these people practicing the same game/part of a game for years, sometimes decades on end.
But ill be damned if im not going to watch every video Karl put out about it 😂
@@regulator18E I know what you mean, but it's just another hobby is all. The decades part is really just somebody growing up playing a game, then you get older and play way less, but still enough, you turn on the game whenever you have time and feel like playing, and just tty.
But what gets me is that this speedrunning thing popped up all around the world around the same time like everyone startes having the same ideas.
Dude, this is CRAZY. My friends and i used to try this particular run around 2015ish cuz its so short lol. Im honestly amazed by this runner. Theres levels to this! On another note, condolences on your mom and health issues. Just lost my best friend who speedran with me in January. We love u Karl, keep kicking ass
Pilger with the "Yes, it's possible ..." Ice cold.
Hearing that it took 100,000+ attempts really put into perspective how insane this is. I'm honestly not sure if I can say I've done anything 100,000 times - except breath.
I you would do a single run every single day. It would still take 274 years to have 100000 attempts.
You can cut down that number a lot because 4shock used a technique called "double restart" to get his quickstarts, so every other attempt is a blank 0-length demo. And after that something like 90% of the real attempts also reset within the first second because he had the wrong quickstart angle.
It's still an absurd amount of effort, almost a year of grinding lol, but not every run is the full 4/5 seconds long
That's the exact same thought I had. I couldn't imagine doing anything a 100,000 times.
@@rubendriezen7177 well when you can do 600 attempts in one hour it doesnt seem as bad
@@WayStedYou well, 600 dollars versus 100,000 dollars. Big difference
Doom guy in that speedrun just couldn't be asked to bother with anything. I just know all he could think about was getting home and lay on the couch
He wants to go home and eat Doritos and watch Animal Planet
I would rather think he was rushing home to delete his browser history before the apocalypse peaked. Will we ever know?
(Sorry if message is posted twice, but my message disappeared mid commercial after posting it, my youtube interface has really screwed me over the past two or three months, directing messages to wrong comment section amongst other problems and it only has gotten worse)
@@Curlyheart Are you telling me that doom guy is a vegetarian?
@@NullScar No he wants to watch animal planet to see bunnies.
@@Curlyheart Don't tell him about all the cat videos on RUclips. I don't know if he will kill them or be mesmerised.
"Whenever these ancient records" [...] "set all the way back in 1998" way to make us feel old, Karl
Karl's video quality is SO consistent..he's one of the few RUclipsrs I subbed to and have watched and continue to watch every upload.
My favorite part about Doom speedruns is the fact that almost all the old runs are still available, thanks to them being in demo files and the old web sites being around for so long. I still remember the early days of Compet-N. And to see it still going strong is amazing.
And by "see it still going strong" I mean the community. They've mostly moved to DSDA, but even Compet-N is still up - kinda. New host and it's mostly read only mode, but the fact that it still exists after all this time is a feat.
The fact that DOOM is over 30 years old and speedrunners are still finding new achievements to set in the game is insane
You should take a look at the community made content for the game. Still new mapsets coming out all the time. It's great!
Amen. I'm 57 n this ages me lol. But wow, this is so freaking awesome!!!
@@Kepeskyou are so correct!! I love how this is still relevant after all these years!!!
Heh, I remember booting up doom on MS-DOS. Needed to type out the directory paths to access the game.
The fact that Doom is 30 years old and still one of the best games out there, that gets new content almost daily from modders shows how gaming peaked too early.
I like how depr4vity and 4shockblast have 4 in their name.
A 23 minute video about a World Record that is under 5 seconds, this is what makes your content so good. The attention to detail is unmatched.
4shockblast is a legend.
Imagine being the person responsible for beating 2 of the oldest WR's in Doom 1 and 2, both of them being the very first level
Todd Rogers is a better gamer
Doom is the og.
Hey dude, you didn't take down your bot virus link for your "18+" photos. Might wanna do that if you're gonna comment like a normal person.
These are my favorite videos of yours. You do a great job breaking down the history, the techniques, and letting the replay of each milestone speak for itself.
22:25 One hundred _thousand_ attempts? 🤯
Absolute mad-lad! How do they keep sane? That's some shaolin-level of mental fortitude...
huge props to 4shockblast!
also, your "on the "day" of "month" "the person" achieved this run" is a really good catchphrase that draws me in each time :D
Certainly a perfect name for that record now! ;)
Up there with "but then x got this run" with "en aften ved svanefossen" playing
When you explained "this is what speedrunning is all about" i couldn't stop laughing, at myself and all of us for how absurd it is. And I'm all for it too
It's amazing how you can make 5 seconds of footage be so entertaining for nearly 24minutes!!!
YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND.
your detective work is great, but the Doom speedrun documentaries are just at a different level - thank you!!!
Whenever Doom is on this channel I know it's going to be some crazy shit.
If I was shown this as a kid, I would be sure something was wrong. But now, in my adult age and with the explanations, it just looks so perfect. Thank you for this Karl!
Also yeah, I do remember that video about Chasm. Absolute classic video!
The Chasm video is absolutely brilliant. My favourite video on RUclips, by far.
@@yetanotheruser1989 Yop. Every now and then I watch it again and again. Love Karl's Doom series.
We can affectionately call the quickstart the legit version of shifting into second gear.
A 23:44-minute video about a 5-second Doom speed run? Dudes will say "hell yeah." And they did. You're an absolute legend, Karl.
Initially arrived for Doom content, stayed because of Doom content.
Seriously, your Doom videos are BY FAR the biggest W
I Like Billy Mitchell 🎉
Doom speedrun a is what introduced me to this channel
So so oeal to see content for it still coming out all these years later
For me it was the Goldeneye records. Have a lot of nostalgia for the game. Didn't have many games growing up, but Goldeneye & Mario 64 were 2 of them. I played the snot out of them and know them like the back of my hand. I never got into the speed side, but it's fascinating to watch. I wish I'd grown up on classics like Doom and Quake. I remember sitting on the stairs to sneakily stay up past my bedtime and watch my dad play Quake Arena with his old high school buddies though.
Billy Mitchell did it in 3 seconds flat 2 decades ago but has been holding onto the tape
I heard he got a 2.97 on Entryway in November 1993.
@@youmukonpaku3168 That is hyperbole. It was actually 12:01am on December 10th, 1993. It would have been earlier but he waiting til it was officially released and back then they started the clock from when it said "DOS/4GW." He took a shot of generic ass hot sauce, typed "doom" and hit enter at midnight but yes with the modern timing system it was a 2.97. That part is 100 percent true!
Well, he did manage to become one of Karl's patreon legends, so I guess all is possible...
Love it, such dedication. Thank you for explaining all the strategies and effort and showing everyone who worked on records. I love these videos, I first started following you when you did the run through of doom levels with notes people had left over time. I've subscribed and watched all your videos since. Hope more videos on speedrunning feats !
I was missing Doom videos so much! They were what got me hooked in your videos and I believe that they were the reason you exploded here on RUclips, Karl. The epic songs and introductions you make for Doom videos are unmatched. And the history of Doom's records going all the way until the 90's makes it even better.
The displate sponsor when he says favourite game franchises. Shows diablo that's fallen off a cliff, and cyberpunk which was not finished.
I laughed.
Adored the rest of the video!
"people hate grinding for luck"
*Shiny hunters in the corner* 🤣🤣 love it great video as always!
I feel like i havent seen a Doom video in ages! Karl i absolutely love watching your passion for these games come to light through your amazing speedrun content. You truly are an "Absolute Legend"
It's been a miserable start to my week. Tooth pain (needing 1 tooth pulled that cracked in half), a splitting headache, a bunch of cavities along my gum line hurting, my neck is sore from bone spurs and degenerative spine... a train was stopped by my house blocking the road.. the oragel I ordered is delayed a day.. I get to go to the dentist tomorrow but thats an appointment to make an appointment to then fix it.. So much misery, so much pain.
But then I noticed Karl dropped a Doom video and I feld a rush kinda like a high. My paint numbed instantly and now I wanna cry... thank you Karl for helping make my week better by posting an epic video you absolute legend.
All i can do is to offer my condolences, teeth pain is horrible
I hope you'll get better soon, dude! Have a fantastic day, legend.
Teeth pain is real. I hope you get some relief soon.
boo hoo cry about it 😭
Where can I find numb paint?
I’ve been playing Doom and Doom II since the early 90s, and though I was never a speedrunnrrvir anything, you’re absolutely right.
If you’d showed that demo to anyone playing that game in the 90s, we would’ve sworn up and down that it was an animation or something - certainly not a human at the controls.
Grinding a 6-figure amount of attempts to shave off 1 frame...
Even if it's a 5 second run... Goddamn. Incredible. What a legend.
I was waiting for another video from Doom or Goldeneye. I love hearing these stories from someone passionate.
It's nice that old doom games still have a community
It'll always have a community
Well, why wouldn't one of the best, if not THE best, shooter ever made not have a community? It's a legendary game that's stood the test of time, and no I'm not some Doom fanatic, I haven't played it in years, but I played it for years when I was a kid.
I missed doom speedrun videos so much. It's what got me addicted to Karl. There's something special about doom speedrun.
been watching all the other speedrun content you made and then you drop this, love these
BILLY NO!
Oh wait, sorry, force of habit
Of course it was gonna be 4Shockblast. Absolute goat of the game. Incredible achievement
I cant wait to come back in a year and watch the video about how this was all faked
@@SuperLifestreamlol it's funny, because it's not out of the realm of possibility.
But, I'll sit here instead believing it's real
@@SuperLifestreamor a 3 second entryway
Zero Master
Goat lmfao
Love all your videos and sometimes it’s really nice to just watch a video on something cool and positive. I love that you never fell into only making videos on cheaters or drama. Love your passion for speed running. You make great videos man, I watch all of them.
I'm pretty sure this is a definition of "Frame perfect"
I enjoy long speed runs as much as the next fan but there’s something about the sheer dedication put in to shave off single frames on runs that have seemingly already been optimised to hell and back that is awe inspiring.
It's insane the level of dedication that people can put into a 30 year old game - true masters of their craft. Absolutely amazing to see this record beaten!! Couldn't have been anyone else but 4Shockblast!
Zero Master
I saw the thumbnail and thought "No... There's no way someone beat 5 seconds, it's literally impossible."
Guess it wasn't, great video Karl and congrats to 4SHOCKBLAST.
Absolutely love these videos. Love getting so much knowledge about the tech used in these speedruns, the history of all the runners along the way, etc.
It’s why AverageTreys Mario sunshine history videos is still on of my favorites
Holy crap, I am SO glad to see you doing Doom content again I never thought I'd see the day
Amazing that I'm here in my late 40s watching a game that came out in my teens and seeing a run like that. What a great run and well designed game that it's still having records set over 30 years later.
15:41 I love how the game is like: "Good job dude you finished the level in 4 seconds, but 30 seconds would also have been good enough"
What an epic achievement, 30 years in the making.
I remember reading about Dooms upcoming release in Hyper magazine. To think people are still on the grind, getting these milestones is wild.
Yet another reason why i love gaming.
GG Shock
Damn thanks for the details of this speedrun you absolute legend!
I bet it was Todd Rodgers! That guy is amazing, the only person who could set this new record in my opinion is either Todd, or the Gamer of the Century, Billy Mitchell.
You mean Rodd Todgers?
Todd Todgers*
xXCODRodgers420Xx
You mean Silly Bitchel?
and silly bitchell :)
Love these videos. Done so well. Great run man a perfect level in any game is super cool
Amazing. Well done run, and great coverage of it
Love to see mentions of all of these doom community icons! I'll have you know they're all absolute legends!
Love these videos of you karl. Doom/Mario speedruns
Always happy to get another KJ video. You are an absolute legend
Seeing DOOM players are still break new grounds truly speaks volume to this game greatness.
*cue music by HOME*
And that's where the record stands today
Well. I need to know if DemonLord ate that horse or not.
I love your channel. It recognises the achievements of people who wouldn’t otherwise be known of except in that community. The commitment and dedication of these people is just amazing.
I love when new things are found in old games. Like ganonfloor in OoT
The duality of Karl Jobst videos:
1. The oldest world record of x game has finally been beaten.
2. The greatest world record of x game has been fake all along.
and the occasional King of Cheater suing people for calling them out videos.
Which King of Cheaters? We talking about Impossible Dragster record man, the Video Game Cheater of the Century, or someone else?
@@sintanan469 Thy shall not speak they're name, for it shall bring nought but Horror and Despair.
This is something I would have NEVER thought possible by human means, shockblast outdid himself, definitely one of the goats of ILs in the doom community at least imo.
I first got onto speedrunning with a Karl Jobst video, the "Running a tightrope Doom Speedrun" and I'm so hyped to see another one from you now!
It is unreal to me to see these runs. Amazing. Great video breaking it down Karl!
So... did the guy eat a horse ooorrrr...?
That's what I'm sayin
Not subscribed :( - Awesome video and thanks for the cameo lmao
Easy fix.
ah hey, it's you! i wonder if 4shock will ever go for 28 sec on IOS. i'm convinced it's possible now.
Isn't it awesome that such a great person as Karl can live off of making videos about speedruns? Like, isn't that great for him? He worked so hard on this channel, just because of his passion for speedruns, and it really paid off!
He truly became *4*shockblast
"On the bright side, I'm totally immune to flashbang grenades"
- Helen Keller
i find it really cool that even to this day people still try to break world records in Doom
Love the way you explain everything so easily
I absolutely *love* these detailed speed running records breakdowns, especially Doom and Goldeneye. Doom because it’s my era, and Goldeneye because it’s Karl’s passion and who can’t be caught up in his infectious appreciation of the game.
It was not mentioned in the video, but what makes this story even more legendary is that 4shockblast decided after that to grind for ALL OTHER CATEGORIES of Entryway, and managed to win them all. Now he also holds the speedrun categories title such as uv max (kill all the enemies in the quickest time) uv tyson (do this with only your fist, pistol and chainsaw), nightmare runs etc. He is a legend
I guess Thomas Pilger is the Matt Turk of Doom
Thank you, Jobst, for explaining the techniques used by the speedrunners so meticulously. The understanding makes the achievement even more awesome.
I cannot imagine wasting this much of my finite life running the first level of DooM 2 for over 100,000 tries.
Babe wake up new Karl Jobst video just dropped!
FINALLY! A non drama video!!
That was truly amazing! Soooo pumped to see a Speed Run video after so long! Incredible achievement, and as always, epic analysis Karl ❤
Amazing, both the speed run and the fact you made an informative and great video last 23 minutes about a FOUR SECOND speed run.