I've just started watching your videos lately, I've hit a wall in my progress I have to say that you've inspired me to get back on the horse. Thanks and God bless you 🙏
Man Zakk Wylde should take you and one of your bands on tour with him. That would be a killer show . Get you and Zakk on stage dueling banjos style too. This should happen .
Your recording engineer and DAW skills are really top notch! ! love your guitar knowledge and playing skills! You are are a dedicated musician and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I used V30's since the 90s,, but have migrated to G12M in the last 10 years or so. Both are awesome. BTW, there were a few juicy clams in your first solo 😀
Can't deny that V30 sounds good here, but usually it's different case in your own livingroom. Also it's the compressed and too modern sound too... I miss having those more raw sounds if you know what i mean. Too many choices! Dunno...
Yeah it’s a different case in any room, the microphones and how you place them, the mic pres etc. I just used very basic mics and kinda ”standard” placement for those, Rupert Neve mic pres (pretty standard too) and very little processing so that people would get the idea.
They both hit different parts of the EQ spectrum, so if you have one guitar on the Greenies and the other on the V30s, you're making your life mixing them a lot easier with little effort. Awesome video as always
For my personal taste I like the greenbacks the most. However the V30 also sounds good and maybe cuts through the mix a bit better. Nice playng and thanks for the inspiration :)
Greenbacks for Marshall amps for me, all that clarity and chime in the mid-range, right where Marshall's shine. I feel like Vintage 30's are for Boogie amps, and aggressive down-tuning, that extended low-end is where that sound shines. And you can count on Euge's tone comparison videos, where you don't have to account for shitty playing and tone from the player mudding up the results.
I really like both; can't decide. I really just want the best for jester/whoracle/clayman In Flames sound. Thanks for sharing with all of us! Badass song by the way 🤘
Both tones sound great. I think the Greenbacks really shine here. They’re more present and push the guitar riffs to the top of the mix. The V30s are warm and more subdued by comparison.
The greenbacks sound killer. I've been thinking of upgrading my 1960A with the G12M-25 greenbacks. I think you've helped me make my decision. Thanks, Euge! :)
Great comparison of two great speakers. I'm personally more of a greenback guy but think both can play a different role and they sounds smoking together
Both speakers sounded good, but I preferred the Greenbacks for that style of music. Many "Guitar Cab Speakers," including Classics like the Celestion, have shocking steep high frequency cutoffs around 4-5kHz! The Celestion G12M Greenback has a Frequency Range Spec of 75Hz - 5,000kHz (based on the Chart at Celestion), and a steep High Cut dropping the volume from about 107dB down to about 77dB in a nearly straight line slope in the range from around 3.5kHz to 7kHz. I'm not sure if I calculated this right, but I think that is 30dB decrease in one octave!
Hello Euge, could you do a comparing video of the St. Rock´s attenuator vs. the Fryette Power Station´s attenuator using your mic´d cab? That would be sooo amazing and helpful!! Thanks!! 🤗
Not sure how I missed these videos, so much information. I've been looking for a good demo like this to help decide if I want to change my 12x2 from 2 V30 to 1 V30 and 1 G12M Greenback, and I'm going to do that. Damn awesome song "Take a Walk" downloaded that right away! Anymore more solo tracks 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I use the Marshall TSL 100 combo, it's equipped with Celestions but they've been reclassified. I'm pretty sure they are a G12 Greenback (Possibly a Creamback) and a V30. The blend of the two speakers sounds great though. Best of both worlds
Both speakers sound great in their own way. Greenbacks have more mids and V30's have less mids but more high end, it's hard to determine which sounds "better", I loved both equally. And the guitar playing was awesome, what a great video. Thx !
Yeah V30s have that barking mid range whereas GBs have a bit more of that upper midrange bite which works really well with a Plexi IMO. More modern hi-gain and I prefer V30s.
Glad to hear! Thanks! I have several of them; some has EMG 81/85, some EMG 57/66 some Duncan Custom & ’59 etc. Here’s info about the strings I use: www.eugevalovirta.com/gear/guitars-pickups-strings
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks, had a read through, Amp1, my mate uses one in his Band, and he fixes Amps, as a day job, rates them very high, my Tokai LP has stock pups, but stuck Iron Gears into my son's SG, transformed a shit guitar into a good one, heaviest current Band gets, is Green Day or Foo Fighters. Would be cool to see you do a video on showing the difference string gauge, tuning, pups make to your sound, personally I dont like Gibson scale in standard, feels very tight and choked to me at the dusty end, my SG for example, love it detuned, hate it standard, digging the music, peace.
I didn’t dial them differently at all and don’t see any reason to do so; if I want the character of a Greenback I use that and V30 if I want that, if I want the character of both I use both 😎. Usually I just do some low & hi pass filtering and add presence by boosting 8K with SSL 4K eq and that’s it 🤟.
Both sound awesome! I've got Greenbacks and have had Vintage 30s. For this song, I like the V30s, they're "cleaner" and "tighter" sounding to me. That being said, both are amazing speakers for this style of music.
hy euge maybe you shoud try the wgs retro 30 or mojotone bv30v speakers for a greenback style speaker i like wgs green beret speaker it has more mid agression for modern metal
To me both sounds like a V30 and do the job just fine. I have three UK made 800 2203s and they all sound different. When human (machine) made element is involved there’s always going to be differences even though the parts are the same 👌😎.
Awesome. Tuning mentioned 👍 When you record a video of yourself playing but you've actual playing has been recorded prior to that in a DAW , what is the trick to sync the video of your playing to the audio?
Thanks! My actual playing is recorded while I’m filming myself and then in Final Cut I just press the ’sync’ button and it syncs the video file from my camera and the WAV audio file, I’ve bounced from DAW, together 👌.
Killer intro and song! Awesome playing as always Euge! I just ordered a pair of EVH Speakers to try out in a cabinet I have, I believe they are the same as the G12M's. I cant wait to try them out.
As shown in the previuos video the mix between the two is the best sounding. Personally I also like to blend Greenbacks and Creambacks, or V30 and creambacks in the second place. Great video as always, cheers.
@@EugeValovirta230V recently I also tried hesu demon, Amazing speakers. Also work very well blended with other speakers (love 'em with neo creambacks, you can tell creambacks are my favourite speakers😂)
I have a one speaker peavey cab and a tube amp, I think I should of up graded my speaker instead of my pickups in one of my guitars, it would have improved all my guitars for the price of one Seymour Duncan
Indeed. Speakers part of the overall sound is huge. Like if you want to upgrade your home stereo system; what’s the gear you most likely upgrade first? Speakers most likely 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V my amp is 20 watt 8 ohm so I think the best option is with the G12 heritage or the evh, probably going for evh since I like rock and punk tones.
EUGE, have you tried EVH speakers? because I have heard these EVH speakers sound really good for fender amps and marshall amps , etc they are just really good speakers because EVH tuned them
Yes. They’re 20 watt Greenbacks which has just the EVH graphics. The speakers Ed used since 70s 👌. So it’s basically the same than the G12M 25 watt Greenback but just 20 watts so they break up a bit earlier.
@@EugeValovirta230V I would think 20 watt greenbacks speakers are VOICED difference than the EVH peavy 20 watt speakers? plus using 20 watt speakers will blow up faster because most marshall heads are outputting 100 watts
Don’t know about 20 watt Peaveys. The speakers on Ed’s Peavey cabs were 75 watts but they were voiced like Greenbacks. I owned two of those cabs back in the day. Sure if you use just one speaker but in 4x12 cab it’s 80 watts total and one hardly plays a 100 watt Marshall with everything on 10. Well Eddie did that but he used a Variac so the output wasn’t even near to 100 watts👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V The G12 EVH are 20 watts it says not 75 watts. YOu might have had different EVH speakers in those Eds peavey cabs that used 75 watts. The G12 EVH are 20watts so 4X20watts = 80 watts which marshall amps are 100 watts will blow those speakers. I think EVH used a variac and measured the speaker dB level with a dBm meter or something to fine tune the variac
The Peavey 5150 cabs had Peavey speakers back in the day: reverb.com/item/1070420-peavey-5150-4x12-cabinet-sheffield-speakers? The Celestion EVH speakers were launched when the first Fender / EVH amps were launched.
Good comparison. Both sound really great as you say, i guess it`s about personal preference... One thing about V30:s (don´t want to start a feud about breaking in speakers) but my V30 cab from nineties has a lot warmer sound than the one i got five six years ago. Wonder if there are production differences, probably yes...
Thanks! Indeed. I have three JCM800s, at one point I had five, and have played with probably hundreds and they have all sounded different. Some more than others so always when something man made (or machine made 😊) is in question, and not computer programmed ones and zeros, there’s going to be differences (in production) 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V Thats true, and sometimes you stumble on to something where everything kind of matches perfectly... Had a chance once to test a seventies 50W JMP MK2 master almost a legend here in Gothenburg ha ha... incredibly tight and smooth singing tone. Thanks for the nice videos and an inspiring channel. Cheers!
Check out the V30 masterclass video by Koelkeller studios! Nolly explains how V30s vary through the ages, and the most important factor is "when" it was made rather than where!
@@Rustinpeace117 Yeah, I also found some other video showing how the V30:s have changed. Guess I´ll hold on to my old ones. The greenbacks Euge plays sound pretty nice though but I think V30s cut through better playing in a band and they handle it well when you have a loud drummer and you got to crank it up.
Yeah I have two Marshall Vintage speakers made by Celestion (the OG V30) made in UK and they’re awesome 🤟😎. I tried to buy the Boogie V30 (just out of curiosity) from their store but they don’t ship to Switzerland. At least not atm.
@@EugeValovirta230V why ? i thought they would ship everywhere. Then , how do you describe the tone of v30 those made in china ( stand alone guitar and band mix )
@@EugeValovirta230V The principal videos I like from you is the jcm 800 vs jcm 2000, and the video that you almost cryed playing plexi hehehehe it's very cool, that you said forgoten how good plexis are. Great job Euge, liked the smoth marshall tone in the mix too... Today I record a very decent jcm 2000 dsl 4x12 g75 with sm58 beta apogee, in the future will send you a top video :) you're my inspiration dude.... Regreats from Brazil. Keep rocking.
For the song your playing I like the aggressiveness of the Greenbacks. Like Dank Cat said the V30's are less aggressive and more warm sounding. The V30's would be perfect for a rock ballad.
They’re not my cup of tea at all. They’re something like 300 watts and sounded way too clean and didn’t have the breakup (even with all knobs on 10 with 2203) I really like with lower wattage speakers like Greenbacks (25 watt). But we all have our own personal preferences 😎. Thanks!
Great vid! Would love to see you work out on the G12T-75 (thrash classic) and the G12H 70th Anniversary as well. It's not for everyone but as a deviant weirdo, I really like the 70th Anniversary. Once it's broken in, they sit really well in the mix. Even on its own, it's among my faves.
Thanks! If I get the 75s for free then yes. They’re one of my least favourite speakers and never recorded with those ’cos they always seem to have that weird thing that makes my sound quite distant. Just my five cents 😎.
I like G12T-75's better than V30's with my JCM800 2204 & 2205. G12H 70th Anniversary mixed w/ V30's is a great combo. Prefer V30's with my JCM900 SL-X and my JMP 2204. Never tried greenbacks but they sound amazing here.
I find that most of these speakers sound so much better after breaking them in V30s and G12H75 in particular. Greenies too but they are not as bad right out of the box. IMO, it's worth buying from Avatar or others who do it but I wish Celestion would offer factory break in themselves. It takes hours of pounding them at high volume and most people just don't have the time or neighbours who will allow it. Until then, it's Avatar Hellatone FTW.
Cool song! The difference is way more subtle than with the Ownhammer IRs that I use. With the IR the V30 is much clearer/brighter, cuts better with high gain chugs and busy mixes, while the Greenback is much warmer and works better with loose playing and strumming.
Thanks! Yeah it depends quite a lot what power amp, mics and mic pres were used when capturing the IRs, mic placement etc. And obviously the cab those speakers were and the room where the cab was (it affects even when close mic’ing). In my experience the best way to compare speakers is to do it yourself for real 😎.
I've just started watching your videos lately, I've hit a wall in my progress I have to say that you've inspired me to get back on the horse. Thanks and God bless you 🙏
Oh cool man! Thanks! Really glad to hear this! 🎼👌
So far, this is the best example in how to compare two speaker. Excellent, well done.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
Man Zakk Wylde should take you and one of your bands on tour with him. That would be a killer show . Get you and Zakk on stage dueling banjos style too. This should happen .
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I support this !!
Your recording engineer and DAW skills are really top notch! ! love your guitar knowledge and playing skills! You are are a dedicated musician and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I used V30's since the 90s,, but have migrated to G12M in the last 10 years or so. Both are awesome. BTW, there were a few juicy clams in your first solo 😀
A few tiny clams only improves the flavor. Just ask Jimmy Page!
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Totally agree🤘🏻
Can't deny that V30 sounds good here, but usually it's different case in your own livingroom. Also it's the compressed and too modern sound too... I miss having those more raw sounds if you know what i mean. Too many choices! Dunno...
Yeah it’s a different case in any room, the microphones and how you place them, the mic pres etc.
I just used very basic mics and kinda ”standard” placement for those, Rupert Neve mic pres (pretty standard too) and very little processing so that people would get the idea.
They both hit different parts of the EQ spectrum, so if you have one guitar on the Greenies and the other on the V30s, you're making your life mixing them a lot easier with little effort. Awesome video as always
Indeed. Thanks!
Greenback 2:43
Vintage 30 6:58
Greenback 2:49
Vintage 30 7:05
Greenback 3:54
Vintage 30 8:09
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Just found your channel. Great fucking playing drac 😂
Thanks!
Please make tabs/tutorial for this song. That would be awesome!
I love using them both. Rhythm guitars with V30s and leads/cleans with Greenbacks and vice versa!
For my personal taste I like the greenbacks the most. However the V30 also sounds good and maybe cuts through the mix a bit better. Nice playng and thanks for the inspiration :)
Thanks!
V30 just sounds meaner, more piercing, especially when you're playing high level lead guitar.
Have you made comparison Mesa V30 vs Marshall V30 vs. standard V30. ?
Greenbacks for Marshall amps for me, all that clarity and chime in the mid-range, right where Marshall's shine. I feel like Vintage 30's are for Boogie amps, and aggressive down-tuning, that extended low-end is where that sound shines. And you can count on Euge's tone comparison videos, where you don't have to account for shitty playing and tone from the player mudding up the results.
I really like both; can't decide. I really just want the best for jester/whoracle/clayman In Flames sound.
Thanks for sharing with all of us! Badass song by the way 🤘
That’s why I use / have both 😎. Thanks!
Both tones sound great. I think the Greenbacks really shine here. They’re more present and push the guitar riffs to the top of the mix. The V30s are warm and more subdued by comparison.
They do indeed. Exactly 👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V V30's sounded so rich i love them in my cab i have v 30's
On this channel you can always find useful information and listen to cool guitar playing !
Glad to hear! Thanks!
The greenies cut and have killer mids. The V30s have more woof. The greeenies win.
Of course,bother sound great,but the V30's seem to let more guitar through
The greenbacks sound killer. I've been thinking of upgrading my 1960A with the G12M-25 greenbacks. I think you've helped me make my decision. Thanks, Euge! :)
Yeah! Thanks!
Does having one V30 in your 4x12 make a difference in the room sound? Thinking of mixing two v30s in my 4x12 greenback cab.
Not really. Been thinking to add another V30 there but on the other hand I really like how the cab sounds in the room now so we’ll see 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V i see. Great song btw, sounds like Zakk Wylde meets Acdc
Thanks!
I thought the Wee Dirties sounded better for this application.
I have (3) V30 and (1) G12T-75 in the bottom right corner of the 4x12
Cool!
Great comparison of two great speakers. I'm personally more of a greenback guy but think both can play a different role and they sounds smoking together
Thanks! Indeed 👌💪.
Mix greenbacks and v30's, in the same cab and each one mic. That s what I want to here, will they complement each other, in u will ever see this,lol
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/sx9FRvM5pRE/видео.html
I dig your accent but love your playing. Pleasant surprise. First time seeing you play. You talk the talk, but man you can play! :D Love it!
Thanks! 😎🕺
The difference is negligible to my ears. Both sound like rock & roll to me.
I agree.
Both speakers sounded good, but I preferred the Greenbacks for that style of music.
Many "Guitar Cab Speakers," including Classics like the Celestion, have shocking steep high frequency cutoffs around 4-5kHz! The Celestion G12M Greenback has a Frequency Range Spec of 75Hz - 5,000kHz (based on the Chart at Celestion), and a steep High Cut dropping the volume from about 107dB down to about 77dB in a nearly straight line slope in the range from around 3.5kHz to 7kHz. I'm not sure if I calculated this right, but I think that is 30dB decrease in one octave!
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Hello Euge, could you do a comparing video of the St. Rock´s attenuator vs. the Fryette Power Station´s attenuator using your mic´d cab? That would be sooo amazing and helpful!! Thanks!! 🤗
If I get my hands on the Fryette some day 👌. Thanks!
I'm using the MT15 with a greenback instead of the matching cab that comes with a v30. I think the GB sounds way better.
Not sure how I missed these videos, so much information. I've been looking for a good demo like this to help decide if I want to change my 12x2 from 2 V30 to 1 V30 and 1 G12M Greenback, and I'm going to do that. Damn awesome song "Take a Walk" downloaded that right away! Anymore more solo tracks 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Glad to hear man! Thanks! A few 😎: www.eugevalovirta.com/discography
Great comparison video & tones, both speakers sounded equally as good.
Thanks!
I use the Marshall TSL 100 combo, it's equipped with Celestions but they've been reclassified. I'm pretty sure they are a G12 Greenback (Possibly a Creamback) and a V30. The blend of the two speakers sounds great though. Best of both worlds
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As a die hard vintage 30 fan I finally installed greenbacks in my cab and I haven’t looked back.
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vintage 30 for rhythm and greenback for lead
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Both speakers sound great in their own way. Greenbacks have more mids and V30's have less mids but more high end, it's hard to determine which sounds "better", I loved both equally. And the guitar playing was awesome, what a great video. Thx !
Thanks!
George Lynch said guitar lives predominantly in the miD range, I think greenbacks are superior for that reason. You can always add high end.
Yeah V30s have that barking mid range whereas GBs have a bit more of that upper midrange bite which works really well with a Plexi IMO. More modern hi-gain and I prefer V30s.
I’m a Greenback guy , love them in my 1960 TV cab , they actually go well the the MF 400 b cab that uses K 100’s
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2203 video length, coincidence not
Also, I can hear Ozzy easily singing to this song
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I've just found your channel, also got an old Tokai LP black beauty, what strings, pickups etc, do you have in it?
Glad to hear! Thanks! I have several of them; some has EMG 81/85, some EMG 57/66 some Duncan Custom & ’59 etc. Here’s info about the strings I use: www.eugevalovirta.com/gear/guitars-pickups-strings
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks, had a read through, Amp1, my mate uses one in his Band, and he fixes Amps, as a day job, rates them very high, my Tokai LP has stock pups, but stuck Iron Gears into my son's SG, transformed a shit guitar into a good one, heaviest current Band gets, is Green Day or Foo Fighters. Would be cool to see you do a video on showing the difference string gauge, tuning, pups make to your sound, personally I dont like Gibson scale in standard, feels very tight and choked to me at the dusty end, my SG for example, love it detuned, hate it standard, digging the music, peace.
Cool! It’s all on the website 😎.
How bad did you want to dial em in different? Curious to hear how you would, since they do have a different character.
I didn’t dial them differently at all and don’t see any reason to do so; if I want the character of a Greenback I use that and V30 if I want that, if I want the character of both I use both 😎. Usually I just do some low & hi pass filtering and add presence by boosting 8K with SSL 4K eq and that’s it 🤟.
Both sound awesome! I've got Greenbacks and have had Vintage 30s. For this song, I like the V30s, they're "cleaner" and "tighter" sounding to me. That being said, both are amazing speakers for this style of music.
Indeed 👌🤟🙏.
Yeah buddy awesome as usual. Vintage 30s for me I need to order me a set from Mesa so I get the good ones not from China.
Thanks! Mine is from China and it does the job just fine. I’ve used Mesa’s too and those sounded also like V30s and did the job just fine.
Both of these speakers would sound great in one 4x12 cab in an "X" pattern.
hy euge maybe you shoud try the wgs retro 30 or mojotone bv30v speakers for a greenback style speaker i like wgs green beret speaker it has more mid agression for modern metal
The Marshall branded Vintage speakers (U.K. made) sound very different from the Chinese Vintage 30's. Much less harsh. Just much better.
To me both sounds like a V30 and do the job just fine. I have three UK made 800 2203s and they all sound different. When human (machine) made element is involved there’s always going to be differences even though the parts are the same 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V Your a smart man!
Mr. Tinkertrain vibes. 😊 Nice comparison.
😎🤟. Thanks!
V30 for me but it's close. Great song and your playing is so good! Really cool to watch .
Thanks! Really glad to hear!
The green backs has that sucked in mid sound in the vintage 30s have more mid range bite it together they sound phenomenal😎
Awesome. Tuning mentioned 👍
When you record a video of yourself playing but you've actual playing has been recorded prior to that in a DAW , what is the trick to sync the video of your playing to the audio?
Thanks!
My actual playing is recorded while I’m filming myself and then in Final Cut I just press the ’sync’ button and it syncs the video file from my camera and the WAV audio file, I’ve bounced from DAW, together 👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V thanks 👍
This song would fit right in on the skid row subhuman race album
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Really cool video definitely a difference between the two. I prefer V30 😎
Thanks!
Hey brother, I enjoyed watching you play. Nice job
Glad to hear! Thanks!
Killer intro and song! Awesome playing as always Euge! I just ordered a pair of EVH Speakers to try out in a cabinet I have, I believe they are the same as the G12M's. I cant wait to try them out.
Thanks! Yeah they’re 20 watt Greenbacks (break up a bit earlier than the 25 watt ”basic” ones I have) with just EVH graphics 👌.
I really love the Greenback sound! I get why people like the V30, but to my ears the Greenback is much more musical.
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@@EugeValovirta230V have you tried any of the Fane Ascension speakers? I have a feeling the F70 and the F25 would suit your playing.
Nope.
@@EugeValovirta230V if you get a chance, I would highly suggest them. I personally would love to see a demo of them from you.
Not bad for a tattooed Hippie if I don't say myself.
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great song ! wait, there was a speaker comparison ? yea... great song !
Thanks! 😎🤟
Thx euge !!! U must have a break from touring etc 💪💪🤘🤘
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My vote the Green.
As shown in the previuos video the mix between the two is the best sounding. Personally I also like to blend Greenbacks and Creambacks, or V30 and creambacks in the second place. Great video as always, cheers.
👌. Thanks!
@@EugeValovirta230V recently I also tried hesu demon, Amazing speakers. Also work very well blended with other speakers (love 'em with neo creambacks, you can tell creambacks are my favourite speakers😂)
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I have a one speaker peavey cab and a tube amp, I think I should of up graded my speaker instead of my pickups in one of my guitars, it would have improved all my guitars for the price of one Seymour Duncan
Indeed. Speakers part of the overall sound is huge. Like if you want to upgrade your home stereo system; what’s the gear you most likely upgrade first? Speakers most likely 👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V my amp is 20 watt 8 ohm so I think the best option is with the G12 heritage or the evh, probably going for evh since I like rock and punk tones.
Good choises 👌.
You can definitely tell this dude loves him some Ozzy
EUGE, have you tried EVH speakers? because I have heard these EVH speakers sound really good for fender amps and marshall amps , etc they are just really good speakers because EVH tuned them
Yes. They’re 20 watt Greenbacks which has just the EVH graphics. The speakers Ed used since 70s 👌. So it’s basically the same than the G12M 25 watt Greenback but just 20 watts so they break up a bit earlier.
@@EugeValovirta230V I would think 20 watt greenbacks speakers are VOICED difference than the EVH peavy 20 watt speakers? plus using 20 watt speakers will blow up faster because most marshall heads are outputting 100 watts
Don’t know about 20 watt Peaveys. The speakers on Ed’s Peavey cabs were 75 watts but they were voiced like Greenbacks. I owned two of those cabs back in the day.
Sure if you use just one speaker but in 4x12 cab it’s 80 watts total and one hardly plays a 100 watt Marshall with everything on 10. Well Eddie did that but he used a Variac so the output wasn’t even near to 100 watts👌😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V The G12 EVH are 20 watts it says not 75 watts. YOu might have had different EVH speakers in those Eds peavey cabs that used 75 watts. The G12 EVH are 20watts so 4X20watts = 80 watts which marshall amps are 100 watts will blow those speakers. I think EVH used a variac and measured the speaker dB level with a dBm meter or something to fine tune the variac
The Peavey 5150 cabs had Peavey speakers back in the day: reverb.com/item/1070420-peavey-5150-4x12-cabinet-sheffield-speakers?
The Celestion EVH speakers were launched when the first Fender / EVH amps were launched.
Appreciate the vid
Really good
Great playing!
Thanks a lot!
Dude , the V30's are it . The Greenbacks would be good for "adding" or "stacking" tracks . The V30's sound so much better IMO
Can’t argue with personal preferences 😎.
anybody else notice the circumference of the magnets?
V30
perhaps v30 is more juicy, but a little bit more bass
Good comparison. Both sound really great as you say, i guess it`s about personal preference... One thing about V30:s (don´t want to start a feud about breaking in speakers) but my V30 cab from nineties has a lot warmer sound than the one i got five six years ago. Wonder if there are production differences, probably yes...
Thanks! Indeed. I have three JCM800s, at one point I had five, and have played with probably hundreds and they have all sounded different. Some more than others so always when something man made (or machine made 😊) is in question, and not computer programmed ones and zeros, there’s going to be differences (in production) 😎.
@@EugeValovirta230V Thats true, and sometimes you stumble on to something where everything kind of matches perfectly... Had a chance once to test a seventies 50W JMP MK2 master almost a legend here in Gothenburg ha ha... incredibly tight and smooth singing tone. Thanks for the nice videos and an inspiring channel. Cheers!
Check out the V30 masterclass video by Koelkeller studios! Nolly explains how V30s vary through the ages, and the most important factor is "when" it was made rather than where!
@@Rustinpeace117 Yeah, I also found some other video showing how the V30:s have changed. Guess I´ll hold on to my old ones. The greenbacks Euge plays sound pretty nice though but I think V30s cut through better playing in a band and they handle it well when you have a loud drummer and you got to crank it up.
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Advice : If you are a fan of v30 , please buy v30 made in uk . you can go to mesa boogie store ( parts and accessories )
Yeah I have two Marshall Vintage speakers made by Celestion (the OG V30) made in UK and they’re awesome 🤟😎. I tried to buy the Boogie V30 (just out of curiosity) from their store but they don’t ship to Switzerland. At least not atm.
@@EugeValovirta230V why ? i thought they would ship everywhere. Then , how do you describe the tone of v30 those made in china ( stand alone guitar and band mix )
That’s a good question and I’d like to know the answer too. Like this: ruclips.net/video/ZFaw-8t4tHc/видео.html
Which wah pedal you rockin with?
Dunlop John Petrucci 👌.
Bangin' Track, Dude. Bangin.
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Euge, liked the new camera angle TOP......nice test, thanks
Oh I’ve used it on many videos but thanks anyways! 😎🤟🙏
@@EugeValovirta230V The principal videos I like from you is the jcm 800 vs jcm 2000, and the video that you almost cryed playing plexi hehehehe it's very cool, that you said forgoten how good plexis are. Great job Euge, liked the smoth marshall tone in the mix too... Today I record a very decent jcm 2000 dsl 4x12 g75 with sm58 beta apogee, in the future will send you a top video :) you're my inspiration dude.... Regreats from Brazil. Keep rocking.
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Hey! great comparison video! I personally prefer the vintage 30. It's been my to go speaker for years. Cheers!
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Super song! 🤘🔥 V30 best🙂
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2-25+2-30 mix!!!👍
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In the mix I don't think it really makes a big difference
To me it’s just where the magic difference is 😎. But we’re all different and it’s in the ear of the beholder 👌.
@@EugeValovirta230V In the room it is very noticeable for sure, I was always a v30 guy but have really grown to like GBs in the last few years
Awesome player! Awesome song! Awesome tones!❤
Glad to hear! Thanks!
I definitely like that song at the start. Zakk-flavored but a bit better honestly.
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Greenback kick ass sound. wow.
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Greenbacks sit so much better in the mix, once i switched to greenbacks i never looked back.
It’s all about personal preferences. Sometimes I prefer Greenies, sometimes Vintages and many times both 😎👌.
Pepita hyper dances :)
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V30! I like em a lot... thank you for the comparison!
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RW is the $$$, my Favorite!!!
Greenbacks ripped 🤘🤘
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Yaaaasssss 🔥. Thanks mate!!!!
RAWK! 😎🙏🤟
Thank you for what you do!
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Would you agree with me that the vintage 30 really seems to be better suited to the silver jubilee than the greenback?
It depends on what one wants. These two are my favourite speakers and to me they work with any amp. Just a bit different flavours 👌.
Greenbacks with my jubilee’s Rock the best !
For the song your playing I like the aggressiveness of the Greenbacks. Like Dank Cat said the V30's are less aggressive and more warm sounding. The V30's would be perfect for a rock ballad.
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Bet you'd like Zakks Black Label speakers too. Killer playing brother man. Your a beast.
They’re not my cup of tea at all. They’re something like 300 watts and sounded way too clean and didn’t have the breakup (even with all knobs on 10 with 2203) I really like with lower wattage speakers like Greenbacks (25 watt). But we all have our own personal preferences 😎.
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Killer playing!
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Niiiiiice 👌👌👌
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Great song
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Great vid! Would love to see you work out on the G12T-75 (thrash classic) and the G12H 70th Anniversary as well.
It's not for everyone but as a deviant weirdo, I really like the 70th Anniversary. Once it's broken in, they sit really well in the mix. Even on its own, it's among my faves.
Thanks! If I get the 75s for free then yes. They’re one of my least favourite speakers and never recorded with those ’cos they always seem to have that weird thing that makes my sound quite distant. Just my five cents 😎.
I like G12T-75's better than V30's with my JCM800 2204 & 2205. G12H 70th Anniversary mixed w/ V30's is a great combo. Prefer V30's with my JCM900 SL-X and my JMP 2204. Never tried greenbacks but they sound amazing here.
I find that most of these speakers sound so much better after breaking them in V30s and G12H75 in particular. Greenies too but they are not as bad right out of the box.
IMO, it's worth buying from Avatar or others who do it but I wish Celestion would offer factory break in themselves. It takes hours of pounding them at high volume and most people just don't have the time or neighbours who will allow it.
Until then, it's Avatar Hellatone FTW.
@@EugeValovirta230V how about g12 65s?
V30 for me in this comparison, but I think I still prefer the Alnico Cream Celestions over every other speaker.
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Cool song! The difference is way more subtle than with the Ownhammer IRs that I use. With the IR the V30 is much clearer/brighter, cuts better with high gain chugs and busy mixes, while the Greenback is much warmer and works better with loose playing and strumming.
Thanks! Yeah it depends quite a lot what power amp, mics and mic pres were used when capturing the IRs, mic placement etc. And obviously the cab those speakers were and the room where the cab was (it affects even when close mic’ing). In my experience the best way to compare speakers is to do it yourself for real 😎.