This is kind of lame, Daniel isn't good because he bluffs, in fact he very rarely bluffs. He is good because he knows exactly what cards the other players have. (almost magically)
His problem is that he second guesses himself. I have seen him call the EXACT CARDS someone was holding then play as if he was wrong, he needs to trust himself more
Pfffff watch high stakes poker Dwan got away with it for a whole but I think it was Daniel or Eli elezria who straight up told I have a read on u and from then on dwan got owned except of course when he sucked out!
Daniel was a terrible choice. He doesn’t bluff very often and when he does, since he does it so little, everyone thinks he’s not bluffing. If he were up against the lie detector in a test to see who’s better, that’s a good test. Daniel can read your cards even if you don’t pick them up.
Daniel isn't famous for his bluff, though. He is famous for his ability to read his opponents tells. He is also amazing at the small talk to get all the small details that he needs to know what the person has.
But poker is not about your heart rate, the other players don't see that. It's about your signals and ability to keep a poker face and read signals given by other players.
I always believe people can train to lie to a lie detector (so it can't be admissible in a court and also it is far for 100% acurrate maybe), like special agents, soldiers or spys if they get caught by the enemy. This guy Daniel train to lie to people not to a lie detector. I think is completlely different, people will see your eyes, gestures, movements and all that and the polygraph doesn't see that, it is measuring his levels of stress and anxiety, so Daniel isn't concern to be less stress, he is concern of don't show it with his eyes and movements in a poker game.
Its funny cuz Daniel doesn't bluff so much. What he is really famous for is his incredible read of other players. Often he just spells their cards and he turns out to be right.
He's even admitted before that he isn't a very good liar. PokerStars season 2, episode 2 (or possibly 3) he says it himself. He's good at poker cause he can read other people so well, and he's just very strategical.
and there's something else: STRESS doesn't just happen when you lie, it's when you feel something less than 100% comfort/confidence. Last night in a live casino poker room I had AA under the gun, and of course loose gamblers called my reasonably big raise, first one then another; 5 of us saw a flop. And I recall my heart racing HUGE and my blood pressure higher BEFORE the flop was dealt (it was JcTh8h; SB bet small, then BB raised huge, I wisely folded -- they chopped, BOTH had Q9o!).
They will count their "outs" however. When you think you need to improve your hand to win at showdown you can count up how many cards left in the deck will improve your hand and work out the odds of one of them being dealt. You can then make a statistically correct decision based on the money in the pot vs. how much it is to call (this is called "pot odds") and you can even factor in how much more money you think you can get from your opponent should you make your hand ("implied pot odds")
"I can sit at anyone's home game not look at my cards and guarantee to win almost every time" Sorry Daniel... you're an amazing player... but not even Stu could pull that off.
Have you ever heard about Expected Value? Failure can happen in any sport. I'm sure you often hear from athletes phrases like "today is not my day." When you are doing everything right and still failing. Success in the long run. In all sports.
depends on what definition of sport somebody has. games like poker or chess are very competitive and the performance depends not only on ones knowledge of the game, but also on the mental state. those games are considered mind sports. weightlifting is mainly about pure strenght, a hockey player needs to be physically strong, but also have understanding of tactics. for mind games you don't need to be an athlet at all. show-wrestiling is athletic, but not competitive. is that sport?
Negreanu is great, love this guy. And yes, poker is a very complex strategy sport which requires a great deal of experience and knowledge. Anyone can win one hand at random, but winning constantly like these guys do requires talent and focus.
@logipi79 Yes, some people already pointed that out. I thought it was the host who said that, but it was the guy who operated the polygraph. My mistake.
That's why you pick those spots you don't need lucky cards to win, with the right reads. What poker player do you know that plays every single hand. Daniel could probably play the situation and the other's on the table and still win without looking at much of his cards. If you don't know what Annette Obrestad did in an online tournament, I'd suggest you look it up.
Although I agree that Daniel's not the best at this aspect of poker (he does have obvious tells at times) and that someone like Phil Ivey or Tom Dwan would be much suited for this, Daniel still did good. I mean, he adapted to the machine and basically played back at it. It's basically saying now he could probably commit a crime, have him investigated with the detector and still get away with it. Awesome clip!
so would it be a viable tactic to try breathing faster and doing everything you can to speed the beating of your heart/sweat when answering the calibration questions truthfully?
Yeah I can understand that people who compete in those things probably don't like it to be called just a game, but I'm not sure that's enough to just overlook what the definition of a sport actually is. I suppose the definition could vary and I don't want to quote google definitions lol, but it does mention physical exertion from what I've seen. I would say sports, chess, pool, etc can all rest in the competitive game category together happily, since sports are games too.
Also playing the cards isn't just about catching the cards you need, but knowing when it's profitable for you to play the cards you've been dealt. And that is obviously skill, not a luck.
Sport (noun) -- an activity requiring physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. I don't think moving your hand to make a move counts as physical exertion...
It seems weird to me that they're playing a game where both players know the point of them playing is so Negreanu can bluff. It seems like it might take away from the lie a bit. Just wondering if that could effect the results in any way. It also seemed like they didn't really play that many hands (could easily just been from them editing) so he seemed kind of forced to "bluff" on the first hand he was dealt. It just didn't feel like an actual poker moment like they were trying to simulate.
I'm precisely on the same boat as you. Although poker hasn't been mathematically "perfected," it's certainly evolved to an insane degree due to massive amounts of analysis being performed on it. That being said, I'm also shite at it XD
I think you'd need a representative sample... in other words 500 poker players, 500 non poker players shown how to play and 100 hands each. In this case the standard deviation was so high it made the test pretty much pointless. And after all we know full well Danial can bluff very well. And we know Phil can detect lying very well.
The funny thing that seems to have past their defenses is that Daniel really was lying. He just wasn't lying to Phil Laak. He was, by the first time, lying to the machine. So his reaction was visceral, he knew he was attempting to lie and that triggered the same emotion and response. Still remarkable ability though.
Does anyone else think that if they were on a lie detector test it would detect a lie on you no matter what because of how worried you'd be that it'd detect a lie?
Its funny, when this video was made Daniel didn't do a lot of bluffing. But now hes really incorporated well timed bluffs into his game, so all the comments from five years ago saying he doesn't bluff were right at the time but are wrong to somebody just reading them rn.
Guess you have never heard of Johnny Moss (3x winner, 2 back to back) Doyle Brunson(2x winner back to back) Stu Ungar(3x winner, 2 back to back) Johny Chan(2x winner back to back)...
why are there so many poker haters go watch something else then. any form of compitition is a sport. you can also ask how is swimming, billiards, bowling, and golf a sport? people will always hate on things they suck at. poker is a sport
The whole "is poker a sport?" question is pretty redundant, given that it just depends how you define sport - but I'lll tell you this. Playing in a multi-day poker event at the WSOP is incredibly tough and incredibly draining both physically and mentally. You try playing 15 hours a day for 5 days and let us know how you get on by the end of it. There's a reason why WSOP Main Event winners for the past 5 years are all under 25 and in pretty good condition...
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but I'm trying to learn somethin. In my general phy class we learned about probability, statistics and controlled experiments, but I don't see how this relates to a experiment that is not about percentage or "how many are x out the bunch". Could you explain to me a lil.
Making heart pump harder, sweating more, faster breathing seems like things you can "train" for, similar to actors who can cry on que, I think there are too much trust placed on lie detectors.
Not saying those that don't think poker is a sport or sport-like aren't entitled to your opinion but just know that in the infamous Beal vs. The Corporation games, Andy Beal (Self-made Billionaire Banker) had to create a mechanism to attach to his leg to buzz every 7 seconds and create a whole strategy of posture and betting,etc. as to not give off any information.All that just to play against a YOUNG Phil Ivey. And he still lost 16 million in 3 days. Retired from high stakes a year later.
I never said poker wasn't either of those things, just said that neither of those things meet the criteria to call poker a sport (according to the OED)
Not sure, but there are plenty of guys who play hurt and play through the pain. Just ask Doyle Brunson. He seems to show up every year at the World Championships on crutches.
You have to be able to lose or win in some way. I would argue any activity can be considered a sport. All you need is an association. I guess we could start the NSAASA - National Schooling As A Sport Association. :)
I don't like the definition of sport as a physical activity. For me it's first and foremost a competition. If a game more about luck than skill, there is no competition and hence it is not possible to consider sports. If the game requires the skills/abilities and if you can TRAIN the skills/abilities, it is a sport. This could include not only physical abilities, but the intelligence too. Poker as well as chess, basketball, boxing, swimming, etc is a competition. You have to train to be the best
I feel like the lie detector always shows "Lie" result to any poker players. Even if the poker player tells a truth, he is still playing a mindgame in which he doesn't want his opponent to know he is telling truth. As a result, it always causes high blood pressure and faster heartbeat, more sweat and those are really basic factors the lie detector relies on.
Sport: an activity involving physical or mental effort and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Sounds like poker to me.
Poker at low levels isn't a sport,just like playing horse in your drive way isn't a sport. But up the ante and play for millions or play basketball in a truly competitive environment and its a whole other story.The lack or strategic abundance of body language,stratagem,posture,preparation on opponents and mind games needed at Daniel's level of play make it very sport-like,even more than chess at high levels where bluffing, confidence, posture and facial tells aren't as useful to your opponent..
You know what bluff is based on? On not having your opponent beat - or at least thinking you don't have him beat. At what point do you need the cards to win then? Obviously it's probably impossible to win the tournament without playing your cards, but you also can't win the tournament if you play just your cards, not your opponent - you can't always have the nuts, so you always have to think about what you opponent can have - that's also playing your opponent, not just your cards.
Poker can't really be classed as a sport in the way that chess is due to the small element of luck that is present within the game. Over time it evens out but in major tournaments, if you hit a bit of bad luck - you're out.
Screw it, literally the definition of sport is- competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion OR skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally.
I feel like even if the poker players tell a lie or a truth, their heart beat is always high because they want to know what is the response from their opponents. So I can say the polygraph always shows the "Lie" results against poker players.
Technically, all sports are games... Just not all games are sports... So, even by the dictionary definition you're right. I agree with you, though. I'm a poker player and don't consider it a sport.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, it's all marketing. Unless someone starts to be interested in paying for TV coverage of volleyball, nobody will do it. If you want to watch these sports, let's change our spots - you'll live in Czech Republic, I'll take your spot.;)
yes, but it shouldn't be. I agree that both chess and poker require a lot of intelligence and strategy, but I just don't see them as sports because you don't have to train physically in order to compete at a high level.
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They should have done this the other way around - see if Negreanu can detect other people lying better than the machine.
I saw a video a while back on TV where they did exactly that
haha :D
That’s much better.
Idk if that would have worked tho because a ton of his ability to read an opponent comes from game situation, environmental factors etc
durrrr would send the lie detector to valuetown.
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Tony G would've called time on the lie detector results
Helmuth would have complained that he played the lie detector perfectly and that it got lucky
Lol that was funny
Phil Hellmuth would've complained about the lie detector calling his raise with 8-3 offsuit, and then defeating Hellmuth!
This is kind of lame, Daniel isn't good because he bluffs, in fact he very rarely bluffs. He is good because he knows exactly what cards the other players have. (almost magically)
Yeah, Daniel is amazing at calling the other players' hands. It's scary.
His problem is that he second guesses himself. I have seen him call the EXACT CARDS someone was holding then play as if he was wrong, he needs to trust himself more
True dat. He's reads are scary good.
YEP, they picked the wrong poker player for bluffing. He is the BEST Caller not the best bluffer. They should pick TOM DWAN for best bluffer.
Pfffff watch high stakes poker Dwan got away with it for a whole but I think it was Daniel or Eli elezria who straight up told I have a read on u and from then on dwan got owned except of course when he sucked out!
Phil Ivey would be a better test subject
For lies sure, but Daniel is a better player over all
Brendon gonna pretend I did not see that
What did I just read lol
Idk if Phil bluffs a lot really but Daniel doesn’t so maybe he would be better
Daniel was a terrible choice. He doesn’t bluff very often and when he does, since he does it so little, everyone thinks he’s not bluffing. If he were up against the lie detector in a test to see who’s better, that’s a good test.
Daniel can read your cards even if you don’t pick them up.
Cool premise. Lame execution. The show's annoying.
Dwan is more bluff oriented than Daniel. Daniel can read lies better than he can get away with them.
They should have asked him 50-100 questions, and got the percentages of how often the machine made a mistake.
Yeah, because we got the machine at 66%, which isn't that great. With statistical variance, the machine might not be any better than a 50:50 guess.
Daniel is an expert at reads, need Dan for bluffs
"Hi i'm Daniel! Who are you?" LOL xD Best part :D
Every thing about this screams "2010"
Daniel isn't famous for his bluff, though. He is famous for his ability to read his opponents tells. He is also amazing at the small talk to get all the small details that he needs to know what the person has.
Strong choice of player... Daniel is one of the most honest players I've seen lol
But poker is not about your heart rate, the other players don't see that. It's about your signals and ability to keep a poker face and read signals given by other players.
Damn daniel
LOL
I always believe people can train to lie to a lie detector (so it can't be admissible in a court and also it is far for 100% acurrate maybe), like special agents, soldiers or spys if they get caught by the enemy. This guy Daniel train to lie to people not to a lie detector. I think is completlely different, people will see your eyes, gestures, movements and all that and the polygraph doesn't see that, it is measuring his levels of stress and anxiety, so Daniel isn't concern to be less stress, he is concern of don't show it with his eyes and movements in a poker game.
Should have brought Phil Ivey -- The master bluffer
Its funny cuz Daniel doesn't bluff so much. What he is really famous for is his incredible read of other players. Often he just spells their cards and he turns out to be right.
Phil Ivey would dominate the machine.
He's even admitted before that he isn't a very good liar. PokerStars season 2, episode 2 (or possibly 3) he says it himself. He's good at poker cause he can read other people so well, and he's just very strategical.
Is nobody else gonna mention the fact that when the narrator said "a strong pair" at the end he may have been referring to breasts?
hahahh
not "may", he sure was.
Nice observation sherlock
and there's something else: STRESS doesn't just happen when you lie, it's when you feel something less than 100% comfort/confidence.
Last night in a live casino poker room I had AA under the gun, and of course loose gamblers called my reasonably big raise, first one then another; 5 of us saw a flop. And I recall my heart racing HUGE and my blood pressure higher BEFORE the flop was dealt (it was JcTh8h; SB bet small, then BB raised huge, I wisely folded -- they chopped, BOTH had Q9o!).
They will count their "outs" however. When you think you need to improve your hand to win at showdown you can count up how many cards left in the deck will improve your hand and work out the odds of one of them being dealt. You can then make a statistically correct decision based on the money in the pot vs. how much it is to call (this is called "pot odds") and you can even factor in how much more money you think you can get from your opponent should you make your hand ("implied pot odds")
"I can sit at anyone's home game not look at my cards and guarantee to win almost every
time" Sorry Daniel... you're an amazing player... but not even Stu could pull that off.
Who's the model what's her name
Sam Jimenez sorry bro
sometimes the risk is absolutely necessary though bluffing well can give you a huge advantage in poker...
@ba32107 I know they did. I was referring to the 25 people that gave your comment a thumbs up.
Have you ever heard about Expected Value? Failure can happen in any sport. I'm sure you often hear from athletes phrases like "today is not my day." When you are doing everything right and still failing. Success in the long run. In all sports.
depends on what definition of sport somebody has. games like poker or chess are very competitive and the performance depends not only on ones knowledge of the game, but also on the mental state. those games are considered mind sports. weightlifting is mainly about pure strenght, a hockey player needs to be physically strong, but also have understanding of tactics. for mind games you don't need to be an athlet at all. show-wrestiling is athletic, but not competitive. is that sport?
Negreanu is great, love this guy. And yes, poker is a very complex strategy sport which requires a great deal of experience and knowledge. Anyone can win one hand at random, but winning constantly like these guys do requires talent and focus.
Thanks for the upload!!!
From 2019 people
"...when he's looking at a strong pair" LMAO
3:38 One issue with that, chance of a false-positive if he told the truth. Part of the reason why polygraph results are inadmissible in court
You're right about that. And I'd agree that cheerleading is a sport. But tell me- is Candyland a sport?
@logipi79 Yes, some people already pointed that out. I thought it was the host who said that, but it was the guy who operated the polygraph. My mistake.
That's why you pick those spots you don't need lucky cards to win, with the right reads. What poker player do you know that plays every single hand. Daniel could probably play the situation and the other's on the table and still win without looking at much of his cards. If you don't know what Annette Obrestad did in an online tournament, I'd suggest you look it up.
“ put a object in front of you “ puts WomAn
"Hi, I'm Daniel. How are you?" LOL
Although I agree that Daniel's not the best at this aspect of poker (he does have obvious tells at times) and that someone like Phil Ivey or Tom Dwan would be much suited for this, Daniel still did good. I mean, he adapted to the machine and basically played back at it. It's basically saying now he could probably commit a crime, have him investigated with the detector and still get away with it. Awesome clip!
How have I never seen this, Laak and Negreanu are my two faves!
so would it be a viable tactic to try breathing faster and doing everything you can to speed the beating of your heart/sweat when answering the calibration questions truthfully?
Yeah I can understand that people who compete in those things probably don't like it to be called just a game, but I'm not sure that's enough to just overlook what the definition of a sport actually is. I suppose the definition could vary and I don't want to quote google definitions lol, but it does mention physical exertion from what I've seen. I would say sports, chess, pool, etc can all rest in the competitive game category together happily, since sports are games too.
When in poker do you answer yes and no questions when someone asks you what hand youve got?
Also playing the cards isn't just about catching the cards you need, but knowing when it's profitable for you to play the cards you've been dealt. And that is obviously skill, not a luck.
"Is there a dog in a tutu in front of you?"
"Yes, and she's kind of fat."
Kinda funny because he did have Queen-High beat technically since there was a pair of tens on the board..... just a thought.
Sport (noun) -- an activity requiring physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. I don't think moving your hand to make a move counts as physical exertion...
Next time I plan to bluff someone, I'm gonna look at my chips and look back at them so they think I have a good hand. lol
Let's be honest- he was hardly lying with the first question. 03:15. I'd just think "well- there is a hound in a 2-piece"...
It seems weird to me that they're playing a game where both players know the point of them playing is so Negreanu can bluff. It seems like it might take away from the lie a bit. Just wondering if that could effect the results in any way. It also seemed like they didn't really play that many hands (could easily just been from them editing) so he seemed kind of forced to "bluff" on the first hand he was dealt. It just didn't feel like an actual poker moment like they were trying to simulate.
I'm precisely on the same boat as you. Although poker hasn't been mathematically "perfected," it's certainly evolved to an insane degree due to massive amounts of analysis being performed on it. That being said, I'm also shite at it XD
what about Durrr?
To beat a polygraph, just say the opposite of your intended answer (the intended answer can be a lie) and breathe faster
I think you'd need a representative sample... in other words 500 poker players, 500 non poker players shown how to play and 100 hands each.
In this case the standard deviation was so high it made the test pretty much pointless. And after all we know full well Danial can bluff very well. And we know Phil can detect lying very well.
sport isnt just about sweating, exercising or being physical. its also about mental brain , and adjustments
The funny thing that seems to have past their defenses is that Daniel really was lying. He just wasn't lying to Phil Laak. He was, by the first time, lying to the machine. So his reaction was visceral, he knew he was attempting to lie and that triggered the same emotion and response. Still remarkable ability though.
Does anyone else think that if they were on a lie detector test it would detect a lie on you no matter what because of how worried you'd be that it'd detect a lie?
worked out how to balance his bluffs and value well played sir
He did have Queen High beat. Everyone at the table had Queen-high beat. The table paired tens.
Very interesting, thank you for uploading!
Its funny, when this video was made Daniel didn't do a lot of bluffing. But now hes really incorporated well timed bluffs into his game, so all the comments from five years ago saying he doesn't bluff were right at the time but are wrong to somebody just reading them rn.
Guess you have never heard of Johnny Moss (3x winner, 2 back to back) Doyle Brunson(2x winner back to back) Stu Ungar(3x winner, 2 back to back) Johny Chan(2x winner back to back)...
Aside from the fact Daniel doesn't bluff, he reads extremely well. Plus polygraphs are insanely inaccurate
They've been proven so...
why are there so many poker haters go watch something else then.
any form of compitition is a sport. you can also ask how is swimming, billiards, bowling, and golf a sport?
people will always hate on things they suck at.
poker is a sport
The whole "is poker a sport?" question is pretty redundant, given that it just depends how you define sport - but I'lll tell you this. Playing in a multi-day poker event at the WSOP is incredibly tough and incredibly draining both physically and mentally. You try playing 15 hours a day for 5 days and let us know how you get on by the end of it. There's a reason why WSOP Main Event winners for the past 5 years are all under 25 and in pretty good condition...
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but I'm trying to learn somethin. In my general phy class we learned about probability, statistics and controlled experiments, but I don't see how this relates to a experiment that is not about percentage or "how many are x out the bunch". Could you explain to me a lil.
now he cant be all loosey goosey on the table
"The machine just called my raise with 8-3 offsuite honey!"
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA, that cancel at end. LOL
Making heart pump harder, sweating more, faster breathing seems like things you can "train" for, similar to actors who can cry on que, I think there are too much trust placed on lie detectors.
Not saying those that don't think poker is a sport or sport-like aren't entitled to your opinion but just know that in the infamous Beal vs. The Corporation games, Andy Beal (Self-made Billionaire Banker) had to create a mechanism to attach to his leg to buzz every 7 seconds and create a whole strategy of posture and betting,etc. as to not give off any information.All that just to play against a YOUNG Phil Ivey. And he still lost 16 million in 3 days. Retired from high stakes a year later.
I never said poker wasn't either of those things, just said that neither of those things meet the criteria to call poker a sport (according to the OED)
Not sure, but there are plenty of guys who play hurt and play through the pain. Just ask Doyle Brunson. He seems to show up every year at the World Championships on crutches.
i respect that. plus you got scottie and michael as your default and im from chicago. good choice.
Is there anyone that pronounces his last name right?
You have to be able to lose or win in some way.
I would argue any activity can be considered a sport. All you need is an association.
I guess we could start the NSAASA - National Schooling As A Sport Association. :)
I don't like the definition of sport as a physical activity. For me it's first and foremost a competition. If a game more about luck than skill, there is no competition and hence it is not possible to consider sports. If the game requires the skills/abilities and if you can TRAIN the skills/abilities, it is a sport. This could include not only physical abilities, but the intelligence too. Poker as well as chess, basketball, boxing, swimming, etc is a competition. You have to train to be the best
Golf's a sport. Swing a four foot long stick at 100 MPH and try to make a square inch sweet spot make contact with something the size of a dime.
I feel like the lie detector always shows "Lie" result to any poker players. Even if the poker player tells a truth, he is still playing a mindgame in which he doesn't want his opponent to know he is telling truth. As a result, it always causes high blood pressure and faster heartbeat, more sweat and those are really basic factors the lie detector relies on.
Sport: an activity involving physical or mental effort and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Sounds like poker to me.
Poker at low levels isn't a sport,just like playing horse in your drive way isn't a sport. But up the ante and play for millions or play basketball in a truly competitive environment and its a whole other story.The lack or strategic abundance of body language,stratagem,posture,preparation on opponents and mind games needed at Daniel's level of play make it very sport-like,even more than chess at high levels where bluffing, confidence, posture and facial tells aren't as useful to your opponent..
They did him dirty at the end, poor Daniel
This video had all the things I like in it
Neg is perpetuating the myth that poker is all about reading.
You know what bluff is based on? On not having your opponent beat - or at least thinking you don't have him beat. At what point do you need the cards to win then? Obviously it's probably impossible to win the tournament without playing your cards, but you also can't win the tournament if you play just your cards, not your opponent - you can't always have the nuts, so you always have to think about what you opponent can have - that's also playing your opponent, not just your cards.
Patrick Antoninus would be great at this
The fact that the lie detector thought he was lying at the end, proves that lie detectors can't always be relied on.
...So they only got him to "fool" it once, and they call it conclusive? That's not science.
He doesn't only want to win at poker, he also want to win at arguments. I just lied, and that's the truth!
@ba32107 it's like his next sentence was going to be, "ha haaaa... take that, alll reds" LOL!
Poker can't really be classed as a sport in the way that chess is due to the small element of luck that is present within the game. Over time it evens out but in major tournaments, if you hit a bit of bad luck - you're out.
How Epic would it be that the Lie Detector would write DURRED if it was hooked up to Tom Dwan....
LOLZ...
Screw it, literally the definition of sport is- competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion OR skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally.
I feel like even if the poker players tell a lie or a truth, their heart beat is always high because they want to know what is the response from their opponents. So I can say the polygraph always shows the "Lie" results against poker players.
Technically, all sports are games... Just not all games are sports... So, even by the dictionary definition you're right.
I agree with you, though. I'm a poker player and don't consider it a sport.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, it's all marketing. Unless someone starts to be interested in paying for TV coverage of volleyball, nobody will do it. If you want to watch these sports, let's change our spots - you'll live in Czech Republic, I'll take your spot.;)
yes, but it shouldn't be. I agree that both chess and poker require a lot of intelligence and strategy, but I just don't see them as sports because you don't have to train physically in order to compete at a high level.
As I already wrote in the comments, I don't like the definition of sport as a physical activity. For me it's first and foremost a competition.