You were meant to get a MiniMoog! Perfect compliment to your Moog One. You look so happy! Enjoy making more beautiful synth sounds with your new combo!
I came across this interview video that you might enjoy. A ton of Moog equipment including Moog One. Just the sound shaping she does is absolutely incredible. ruclips.net/video/L8vf99skSCU/видео.html
Aww, thank you!! Yes, took a little step back, but I'm working on that song we talked about and some others to try to put together an album. It'll take a minute, but I'm not in a rush, and this is a good outlet for all the other stuff that doesn't fit :D
Well that Model D reissue sounds great! i love to see these full circle come back synths like this. I started with these and kept many of them, and here they are again for new comers and old timers to enjoy again. It's a bass machine for sure.
Great video, It really struck a chord with me when you brought up the fact that it’s not just an updated synth and it’s simply just an instrument. I’ve been hearing a lot of backlash over the price but the fact that you’re specifically getting a brand new mini Moog makes sense to me. Anyways it sounds great and I’m happy to see you adding another great synth to your set up!
Thank you!! Yes, I was so shocked by the uproar as well; I know a lot of guitarists who have so many different guitars and those can get VERY pricey - not even talking about pedals either. So yeah, to me, this seems totally reasonable, and I am so happy to have it. Appreciate you taking the time to leave comment :D
You’ve definitely developed an ear for the nuances of the Moog devices! It’s cool to see how you sink into your playing. Thank you for sharing…early Christmas gift to yourself??? If you are having fun, that’s what matters. I enjoy seeing your smile when you describe your experience with these sturdy machines! Hope you are having a safe holiday season. Cheers to 2023. Keep doing you. ;-)
I so get why you have both the One and the Mini. Two totally different instruments. Same reason I have the Matriarch and the Grandmother. Also two totally different instruments. I appreciate the live and unedited demo. That takes talent and guts. Congrats on the new member of your family. It is beautiful in every way.
Very kind words! Thank you 🥹 I take a lot of pride in my musicianship, and I’m always trying to challenge myself and get better, so I really appreciate you taking note of that. I thought about getting the Matriarch and Grandmother; that’s a sick combo. You must be having a blast with them :)
I've been thinking of getting myself a Model D, torn between the new one (I owned the 2016 reissue) and a vintage model. The vintage model (a rev 2) I tried sounded phenomenal. But less stable, mostly in a good way but also partly in a bad way, takes more than 30 minutes to be ok. The new one has a better keyboard, aftertouch, dedicated lfo, midi (polyphonic! a vintage one with a cv-midi converter is still monophonic), another important difference to me is that the new one has last note priority, which makes virtuosic playing easier than low note priority, it has the benefits from both low and high note priority. Not sure I prefer the spring in the pitch wheel, but it's something that can easily be altered. Different trigger options is also nice on the new one. A great feature I adore on every synth is "local control off", allowing a computer or hardware midi processor to change the notes you are playing, like making the notes arpeggiate. It's a shame they are more expensive now than in 2016, but it's museum quality, far beyond other modern synths or reissues. I had a Korg Arp 2600 that was also great, but no tru-hole components and though it looked super nice the build quality was not like the minimoog reissue which is in fact almost a replica of the original. I tried the Behringer, which does sound nice. At first I wasn't a great fan of the overdrive sound, but you can get different kinds of overdrive flavors out of it, it has a direct mix-out which can also be used to be fed back. The behringers often have clicky sounds on the background, my 2016 model D sounded cleaner. I totally agree with this instrument being like a piano or a guitar, it's not about the bells and whistles, but about the sound. I'm looking forward to trying one out soon.
I just got mine last week and I have really dug deep into it. I am in total agreement with you on the sound and the feel. Its very high quality and my other Moogs ( grandmother, moog sound studio, little phatty) just don't sound like it. The other Moogs are great at what they do and I love them but the mini is more visceral, bright and organic sounding. I agree that it is a quality instrument and its built like a tank and will outlast me. I was a little skeptical and was going to cancel the order but I'm glad I didn't. I've only seen videos online and heard it on records, playing it in person is a whole different thing. It has the raw tone, the interface and the tactile feel that I've been looking for. Its a big purchase, but the quality and tone have left me with smiles for miles. Congrats on picking one up! I'm sure you will get lots of enjoyment and have fun discovering all of the tonal worlds that exist in each minor twist of the knob .
Congrats on yours as well!! It’s such a different experience when it’s right there in front of you, and it just oozes quality across the board. We are fortunate!!
I love your videos. I am just getting into the world of analog synthesis and admire your passion for your craft. I thought of you yesterday while watching an interview with Lisa Bella Donna on the EarthQuakeDevices RUclips channel. Lisa, loves her Moog’s! Looking forward to learning more from your channel.
Bella is very interesting to listen to, very unique vibes. If you want the Moog sound there are alternatives that are alot cheaper like Behringer Poly D, or even cheaper with software with Arturia Mini V and a midi keyboard. Of if you have the budget and want the real thing and worth the price for a real one then get it.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Bella certainly knows here stuff and the folks at Moog seem to have a great relationship with her. Thanks for the tips. I am leaning toward the Arturia Mini V just to get my feet wet but hope to get the real thing at some point.
@@jeffreyparksmusic Yes she is a master of physical sythersizors 100%, I have a few physical sythersizors, Navation Peak, MiniNova and Behringer Monopoly, but most of My music comes from a DAW and its vertal Instrument Rack. The way Reason works it actually sounds and functions very much like physical hardware. My experimental stuff in Reason sounds exactly like DAWless jamming. I have the Mini V but have been making Minimoog sounds long before that and probably without even realising it at the time.
@@dimund I think at the end you were on about the clone version by a company whose name begins with B. And I absolutely agree. I made the mistake of getting the 303 clone by the same company. And it definitely didn't inspire me and it's at the back of a cupboard to this day. It sounds about right but it doesn't feel like a quality instrument. So I will be buying the quality stuff whenever I can. And I definitely don't have a GAS problem.🤔😁
Please do a video about the overdrive back into the Moog One. This is one feature I really wish that the Moog One had. I did end up purchasing the Moog minimoog reissue and never regretting it. Epic sounds. Love your videos!
Congrats on the Minimoog! I'm loving these Moog One and Minimoog side-by-side videos. I have a Moog One myself and I found a trick to add more 'sizzle' to the SAW tooth to make it sound a bit more like the raw signal Minimoog. It also helps to add a bit more punch to it as well. Would love for you to try it and see how it compares or how it helps beef up the Moog One raw signal. Starting with an INIT Patch In the oscillator section, (although I'm sure you know but others might not), you need to set the Wave to SAW and reset the Wave Angle so that it sounds as bright as possible (simply turn it to 12 o'clock then all the way back to the left. This resets the Wave to sound much brighter. In the filter section, I will turn SVT and Ladder on for OSC 1. For the SVT Filter section, I set the Filter Cutoff to around 12 o'clock and set the Mode to HP. Then I set the SVT-Ladder Route to Series. For the Ladder Filter section, I crank Filter Cutoff all the way and keep the Mode on LP and Slope to 24db. Then, I push the SVT-Ladder Mix all the way to 100% Ladder. I don't have a Minimoog to compare, but I find that this added high-end from the SVT both boosts the signal to give it a much fatter sound, but also introduces some of the missing high frequencies when you're just using the Ladder Filter. I think that's the trick to get a very RAW SAW (oh yeah!) signal from the Moog One. From there, I feel like you can re-create some pretty close sounding Minimoog Saw leads and basses. Would love to hear what you think of this little trick and how it compares to the Minimoog.
Yes! I use this technique a lot to get more aggressive lead sounds, but the overall tune is definitely still a little softer than the Model D. That's not to say it doesn't also sound incredible! It does; just different :D
Love your authenticity, rather than a sales pitch video like most others, your videos are like hanging out with a fellow musician friend who just bought a new musical instrument and wants to show you why they love it. I totally agree with you with the "tactile feel of an instrument". I have a ton of plugins and they can sound really great and almost identical to what they are emulating especially in a mix. However there is a "magic " with a well made instrument that inspires you to play which I do not get from plugins or cheaply made clones. The instrument becomes a living thing in the process of creating music when it is adored by its user.
Thank you so much for the incredibly generous compliment. It's really important to me to just be myself, so I appreciate you recognizing that; made my day :D And yes! The FEEL of an instrument. It's so obvious to me. I still love software for a lot of things; the FabFilter suite is incredible for mixing, for example, and it is all over every one of my tracks, but I still like to use the Shelford Channels, because they feel amazing, they inspire me, and they sound phenomenal. I could go on and on about this... I guess I just don't see how people draw these weird artificial lines; no one needs any hardware anymore! We could all just use a laptop and some headphones and music would be fine and sound great, but it wouldn't be as inspiring or fun - at least for me, and I would suspect you too!
Hi, I'm from Belgium and your video's are very good and inspiring. I got myself last week a Moog Voyager RME desktop which is amasing good. I have also a big Buchla 200 system and Buchla Easel. I ove East and west Coast :) Congrats with you Model D.
Thank you for the Comparison between the Moog one and Model D. I can’t wait for you to make the filter overdrive Moog one video and compare it to the model D.
I got a Voyager. Got a really ridiculous price a few years ago that I couldn’t turn down. Although not a Model D, still can get all the classic Moog sounds. And the ability to save programs is a +. I still want a Model D though.
I’ve just got one, and it has surpassed my expectations…. Really lovely sounding, great playability…. And I had the Boog too, and sound wise it was good, but the Minimoog does sound better to my ears, hard to say why, juicier maybe 😊
Love this video thanks. Found a UK retailer that had 2 re-issues come in today. Managed to get one 😀. Not sure I need it but it's so iconic and that sound.... just can't be beaten.
You're not crazy. Amazing sounds 💓.. I know nothing about Moogs in general, yet here we are. Thanks for helping us get re-acquainted with these classics. I love analog. The circuits have depth to creating the sounds. Same for the Farfisa or even Theremins. Pure hardware. What about the keyboard? How would you rate the quality?
The timbre you're getting from around 1:00 is part of why the Mini D is still very much it's own thing. Somehow, despite having fixed pulse width settings, it manages to sound like there's PWM going on under that front panel. I sold mine years ago (not my smartest move, I know), but that sense of motion with even a static oscillator is something very hard to recreate on other instruments.
Yea, it’s not like any synth I’ve ever used, and I wonder if the higher fault tolerances that were considered acceptable from that era has something to do with the drift you are referring to. I’m sure one of our synth friends could chime in, as this is definitely just speculation on my part with the limited knowledge I have :)
@@dimund I think the iffy tolerances play a part. It's not just pitch drift though. It's almost like the waveshape is subtly changing over time too, which accentuates the sound when the oscillators go in and out of phase with each other. You just don't get that some effect on other synths (of any era). If I were an engineer I could probably explain it better.
25:15 In my comparison of the Boog (semi modular unit not the key version) and a Model D Reissue from Moog, I found the two biggest sonic differences to my ears were the way the mixer section sums all the signals. On the Moog D Reissue, all of the oscillators (and noise/ext) summed nicely and even whereas on the Boog, the summing sounds more choked. I also noticed the filter/overdrive interaction that you mentioned here.
Honestly, I’m still kind of surprised that I got it for the same reason. The grandmother and matriarch are both so good, and I still sometimes think maybe the subsequent37 would have been a better choice for me, but the minimoog is really special. I had a voyager years ago, and I sold it in a pinch. Really wish I hadn’t. It was such a nice synth, and in some ways I liked it better than the mini.
Freaking lush beast , from the noise to the overdrive with filters, would love to see a future with guitar pedals into the ONE…. I have to run the headphones out of my moog minitaur back into Aux in to get overdrive…. the Supernatural self oscillation that goes into audio rates, is organically Phat AF, great examples .
@@dimund quality gear just makes way for a stress free symbiotic interaction with the instrument , and focus on the music. With a great user interface and menu design ,even the exploration and experimentation is great biofeedback, with all the analog electrons floating about.
Ahhh...just took delivery of my Cherry as well. Model D's are heirlooms. Congrats on your new synth, mine is 43. If you're like me they will bury you with it. Is that a copy of HANON behind your Push, dear? Your comment towards the end was really what it's all about. "It makes me want to play in a different way...."
Well can’t blame you for getting a dream synth.. Very cool! How about now getting the Trigon 6! I think it will be sweet but of course overkill if you have the Moog one! I’m holding out for a Voyager Re release in my dreams.. I need to save presets. Saying that..The Pro 3 is still the best! Ha ha and also feels like it’s own instrument so easy to use and program.. Enjoy the gorgeous Minimoog!
The Trigon sounds really great, and I am big fan of what Sequential does, but the One really fills that need for me. I am ALSO holding out for a Voyager redux but with an updated UI in the style of the Moog One. I'd buy that for sure. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment :)
Thank you! Yeah, the sound that comes out of this thing is nuts. As for the mount, it's a monitor arm from Fully and a vesa compatible laptop stand off of Amazon.
I had a subsequent 37 in my shopping cart many, many times. It’s a phenomenal synth, but the Model D… I’ve just always wanted one. To be honest, there are times when I STILL GAS for a 37, even after getting the D lol. It’s really a future classic :)
Beautiful addition... I agree that those synths are more in the instrument category where as to me workstations and beat machines are more like computers... Like you could put either of those next to a high end buffet crampon clarinet for example and they would fit the same overall classification... I for one needed no explanation as far as if the 2 of those together is redundant... You will find having that combination opens up portals to outcomes that can't be achieved with either by itself... Even having two identical synths set up differently doing different things providing a different workflow can drastically expand the unique possibilities opposed to just having the one... Excellent choice... I hope @MoogMusicInc notices that they have a very loyal and talented customer...
This was such a thoughtful and generous comment. Thank you so much. I'm really flattered and it brightened up my day more than you could know! Yes, these two synths together make a TON of sense to me, and having the Model D on bass has freed the One up to be able to do tri-timbral chords, which sound really, really incredible. And this, of course, has inspired me in new ways - thinking differently about sound design, about composition, etc. I'm grateful to have music in my life and grateful to have such beautiful instruments. Again, thank you for taking the time :D
@@dimund you will find lots of unique ways to use the two of those together... And I would keep them stacked how you have them so it's easy to bounce between the two when formulating ideas... I'm happy to see how happy you are with such a wonderful new thing... Keep up the great work..!
Really understand your point of view in terms of buying quality instruments. This year I‘ve bought the P10 and my plan was getting the one maybe later. But now the price of the one 16 voice is 11k € in Europe - really gnarly (for me). I‘m asking myself now: Could a digital Iridium keys be enough for me instead of the one? Would love to hear you talking about Iridium vs One.❤😊 best regards, Simon
I have finally bought (awaiting delivery) a Model D (2016 Reissue). Do you have any thoughts on recording it? I've noticed that I'm possibly losing something in my signal path when I record my Arp 2600M. It feels more 'alive' in the studio and a little tamer during playback. I generally record my synths directly into a MOTU1248 leaving some headroom. Could it be psychological ?
Hell, yes. Glad you picked that up -- you're already rocking it. I've gotta see if next year allows me to grab one of these. I had been looking at Voyagers. Now I'm undecided. Anyway - love the new camera setup as well. Ser. #4. Fuck.
Ah, thank you so much for the feedback on the camera! I wasn't sure if that was going to work out okay. I am starting to realize how much better the new camera is than my other one for video, so I need to save up and upgrade. The voyager is amazing and I had one in the past; I would get it again, but I am hoping they re-release it with and updated UI from the Moog One. That would be unreal.
Yes, I left it off intentionally! Agree it would sound really great with some reverb, but I wanted to showcase the dry signal; I always get frustrated when people are demoing synths and have the signal drenched in reverb :)
@@dimund Ofcourse and yes best to demo a sythersizor naked, first time hear so didn't know you where going to stop chat and do a demo like this, but it got Me to sub so, success there I guess. Great demo, what's your thoughts on Behringer Poly D? I have there Monopoly and it does sound sound very similar to a Moog also in My opinion.
Thank you for subscribing!!! I think the behringer stuff usually does the job. Their stuff isn’t for me, but I’m happy people are able to get access to some of these classic sounds :)
@@dimund I was impressed by the quality of the Behringer Monopoly, it feels like a quality bit of kit, on the same level of quality as My Navation Peak.
TBH, if they came out with an OB-X8 desktop, I'd consider it, but I don't really see a need for any other synths now. I would like to get a Rhodes Mk8, Focal Trio6 Be 8s, an RME UFX+ and an RME M-1610 Pro, and a Neve Master Buss Processor :D
So, the Model D reissues have the ext. input mixer knob normaled to return the output signal if nothing is plugged into the ext. in jack; this is a shortcut to overload the mixer and achieve saturation that was originally accomplished using cables on the OG minimoog. It's just a convenience feature - which is also present on the Subsequent 37, Sequential Pro 3, and the new Sequential Trigon 6 (if I am remembering correctly) - but it's a pretty integral part of the Model D sound. It is pre-filter, which is also a big part of why it's so great for thickening up bass; you can drive the signal to get a bass sound that has very little dynamics (read loud), and then close the 24 dB filter to cut all the unwanted high frequencies. Adding some envelope amount to the filter opens it just enough to get that punchy sound that Moog is so well known for :D
Congratulations! Most guitarists have more than one guitar so I totally get it. Plus I enjoyed how you demonstrated the difference in timber between the D and the One. That really surprised me. Enjoy!
@@dimund Luna is a free DAW you get with the purchase of one of their UAD interface. It has a lot of cool plug-ins. I'm sure their's pros and cons to using softsynth as opposed to the real deal.
It sounds amazing, and I love having it, but I wouldn’t have gotten if I didn’t have the Iridium and One to cover certain styles of leads that it can’t do. If you have those bases covered, or you don’t care about those sounds, then it is fantastic :) I use it most for bass and leads, as well as getting weird with pedals.
Are you referring to during the intro jam? I noticed the slight detune between them in post, as it wasn’t so apparent when I was recording - likely distracted trying to juggle everything - but I didn’t want to warp the audio and potentially introduce artifacts.
@@dimund Yes, and everything else, e.g. for the tone comparison it's slightly disturbing for the perception that they're not in tune - the main difference becomes the pitch. For "clinical" comparisons the volume _and_ _pitch_ need to be carefully matched. Not a big thing though, I still enjoyed the demo :)
MoogOne is more a designers dream, the Mini is a players dream, both combined make dreams come true. MoogOne without the 3 separate outs is why I would never buy one, having to track separate is important to my work flow. Still does not mean I cannot appreciate what both do. Seems like you're having fun and that's all that matters.
Thank you! Definitely having fun :) You can multi-track out with the Moog One, and it’s one of my favorite parts about it. I typically have one synth out the mains in stereo, and then my leads and basses out the aux outs in mono. There is a second set of stereo sub outs as well - in addition to the 4 total mono aux outs. The output section of the UI is also modular, so you can flexibly route synths as needed :)
I hear you; it‘s always a good idea to have a mono synth above/beside a poly synth. It is different from unison patches on a poly; monos usually offer more headroom and immediacy. But yes, IMHO the Minimoog is awfully overpriced. Amongst others, I have a Subsequent 37 and a Poly D which sound moogy enough to me. Build quality doesn‘t make the sound; if I need a large quality keybed, I use a P5 and midi.
I feel you! I don't think it is overpriced for what they are doing with respect to the build, but if all I cared about was the sound, I'd use soft synths for everything. Sounds like you have the mono territory covered really nicely with the Subsequent 37, so this wouldn't make sense :D
@@dimund Tbh, my best-sounding mono synth is a cheap BARP 2600 with the .. ahem … borrowed Moog ladder filter. It requires a lot of brainwork though. 🤯
Some classic SIDesque chip tune neurons in my brain were really tingling on the first two jams you did - both the patch and your playing style - loved it :D It seems like a great compliment to the One, which isn't great at bassy/overdriven sounds anyway (turns into fizz due to the way the voices are mixed, but it is what it is).. so they should be a good double team. I don't think there is really any sound difference between the D and its clone, but the full sized form factor of the D is undeniably an inspiring hulking beast to sit in front of.. which in turn will affect how you play. I think it's something akin to the Les Paul or Strat that should always be in production. Congrats on serial 004 👍
Thank you so much! Regarding the One and overdriven sounds, I've gotten some really incredible stuff out of it when using a single layer and running the aux out into an overdrive pedal and back. I have a Chase Bliss Brothers and Preamp Mk II, and they both create a phenomenal sound when paired with the One - either by themselves or together in series. It's nice having the Model D, though, because that sound is built in to the synth itself, which I love.
I find you quite symphatic but want to add: Unfortunately price doesn't relate to build quality. The minimoog though is well built but also there are some tiny issues. But all in all it is outstanding on the market. Allthough it is overpriced. Really it is. You pay for the brand. Same thing with sequential. But the moog one isn't the same thing. Built qualitywise. It is also overpriced but people are willing to pay that. Same synth with a behringer logo, people would have a different opinion, 100 percent. Best But i am happy that you are so much into it and happy.
Stream of conciousness is wild, broad and deep knowledge shines through. Making this big fun. Musical pop culture also fun. Great video, cheers.
Appreciate it!!! Thank you so much ☺️
You were meant to get a MiniMoog! Perfect compliment to your Moog One. You look so happy! Enjoy making more beautiful synth sounds with your new combo!
Aww thank you!!! It really does compliment the One so well, and I am incredibly happy! I really never thought I would ever be able to own one :)
I came across this interview video that you might enjoy. A ton of Moog equipment including Moog One. Just the sound shaping she does is absolutely incredible.
ruclips.net/video/L8vf99skSCU/видео.html
Great to see you back here and adding more power to your arsenal! Can’t wait to hear what you come up with for 2023. 👍
Aww, thank you!! Yes, took a little step back, but I'm working on that song we talked about and some others to try to put together an album. It'll take a minute, but I'm not in a rush, and this is a good outlet for all the other stuff that doesn't fit :D
Well that Model D reissue sounds great! i love to see these full circle come back synths like this. I started with these and kept many of them, and here they are again for new comers and old timers to enjoy again. It's a bass machine for sure.
Great video, It really struck a chord with me when you brought up the fact that it’s not just an updated synth and it’s simply just an instrument. I’ve been hearing a lot of backlash over the price but the fact that you’re specifically getting a brand new mini Moog makes sense to me. Anyways it sounds great and I’m happy to see you adding another great synth to your set up!
Thank you!! Yes, I was so shocked by the uproar as well; I know a lot of guitarists who have so many different guitars and those can get VERY pricey - not even talking about pedals either. So yeah, to me, this seems totally reasonable, and I am so happy to have it. Appreciate you taking the time to leave comment :D
You’ve definitely developed an ear for the nuances of the Moog devices! It’s cool to see how you sink into your playing. Thank you for sharing…early Christmas gift to yourself??? If you are having fun, that’s what matters. I enjoy seeing your smile when you describe your experience with these sturdy machines! Hope you are having a safe holiday season. Cheers to 2023. Keep doing you. ;-)
And thank you so much for the vid! So good, so fun, could listen to you play all day. Thank you :)
Awww, thank you!! This was not my usual style of playing, so I was like, "mmm maybe this is garbage," so I really appreciate that :D
I so get why you have both the One and the Mini. Two totally different instruments. Same reason I have the Matriarch and the Grandmother. Also two totally different instruments. I appreciate the live and unedited demo. That takes talent and guts. Congrats on the new member of your family. It is beautiful in every way.
Very kind words! Thank you 🥹
I take a lot of pride in my musicianship, and I’m always trying to challenge myself and get better, so I really appreciate you taking note of that.
I thought about getting the Matriarch and Grandmother; that’s a sick combo. You must be having a blast with them :)
Shes a Moog fan indeed.
Moog one underneath the model D on the side of the desk is such a classic look now! Congrats on serial number 4!!!!
They really do compliment each other so well, and thank you so much !!!!
I love Moog synths. You sure know how to make them sing. Well done.
Your earned a new sub and a like.
Ah, wow, thank you for such kind words! They are a joy to play, and I’m grateful to have them :)
Congrats on the new addition to your studio. Looks & sounds awesome.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment!! Super excited to have this in my space, and it has been a joy to play :D
I've been thinking of getting myself a Model D, torn between the new one (I owned the 2016 reissue) and a vintage model. The vintage model (a rev 2) I tried sounded phenomenal. But less stable, mostly in a good way but also partly in a bad way, takes more than 30 minutes to be ok. The new one has a better keyboard, aftertouch, dedicated lfo, midi (polyphonic! a vintage one with a cv-midi converter is still monophonic), another important difference to me is that the new one has last note priority, which makes virtuosic playing easier than low note priority, it has the benefits from both low and high note priority. Not sure I prefer the spring in the pitch wheel, but it's something that can easily be altered. Different trigger options is also nice on the new one. A great feature I adore on every synth is "local control off", allowing a computer or hardware midi processor to change the notes you are playing, like making the notes arpeggiate. It's a shame they are more expensive now than in 2016, but it's museum quality, far beyond other modern synths or reissues. I had a Korg Arp 2600 that was also great, but no tru-hole components and though it looked super nice the build quality was not like the minimoog reissue which is in fact almost a replica of the original. I tried the Behringer, which does sound nice. At first I wasn't a great fan of the overdrive sound, but you can get different kinds of overdrive flavors out of it, it has a direct mix-out which can also be used to be fed back. The behringers often have clicky sounds on the background, my 2016 model D sounded cleaner. I totally agree with this instrument being like a piano or a guitar, it's not about the bells and whistles, but about the sound. I'm looking forward to trying one out soon.
I just got mine last week and I have really dug deep into it. I am in total agreement with you on the sound and the feel. Its very high quality and my other Moogs ( grandmother, moog sound studio, little phatty) just don't sound like it. The other Moogs are great at what they do and I love them but the mini is more visceral, bright and organic sounding. I agree that it is a quality instrument and its built like a tank and will outlast me. I was a little skeptical and was going to cancel the order but I'm glad I didn't. I've only seen videos online and heard it on records, playing it in person is a whole different thing. It has the raw tone, the interface and the tactile feel that I've been looking for. Its a big purchase, but the quality and tone have left me with smiles for miles. Congrats on picking one up! I'm sure you will get lots of enjoyment and have fun discovering all of the tonal worlds that exist in each minor twist of the knob .
Congrats on yours as well!! It’s such a different experience when it’s right there in front of you, and it just oozes quality across the board. We are fortunate!!
I love your videos. I am just getting into the world of analog synthesis and admire your passion for your craft. I thought of you yesterday while watching an interview with Lisa Bella Donna on the EarthQuakeDevices RUclips channel. Lisa, loves her Moog’s! Looking forward to learning more from your channel.
Bella is very interesting to listen to, very unique vibes. If you want the Moog sound there are alternatives that are alot cheaper like Behringer Poly D, or even cheaper with software with Arturia Mini V and a midi keyboard. Of if you have the budget and want the real thing and worth the price for a real one then get it.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Bella certainly knows here stuff and the folks at Moog seem to have a great relationship with her. Thanks for the tips. I am leaning toward the Arturia Mini V just to get my feet wet but hope to get the real thing at some point.
@@jeffreyparksmusic Yes she is a master of physical sythersizors 100%, I have a few physical sythersizors, Navation Peak, MiniNova and Behringer Monopoly, but most of My music comes from a DAW and its vertal Instrument Rack. The way Reason works it actually sounds and functions very much like physical hardware. My experimental stuff in Reason sounds exactly like DAWless jamming. I have the Mini V but have been making Minimoog sounds long before that and probably without even realising it at the time.
You got your self a brand new classic. Sounds superb.
So it would seem, and I am incredibly grateful for it 🥺🙏🏼
@@dimund I think at the end you were on about the clone version by a company whose name begins with B. And I absolutely agree. I made the mistake of getting the 303 clone by the same company. And it definitely didn't inspire me and it's at the back of a cupboard to this day. It sounds about right but it doesn't feel like a quality instrument. So I will be buying the quality stuff whenever I can. And I definitely don't have a GAS problem.🤔😁
Please do a video about the overdrive back into the Moog One. This is one feature I really wish that the Moog One had. I did end up purchasing the Moog minimoog reissue and never regretting it. Epic sounds. Love your videos!
Congrats on the Minimoog! I'm loving these Moog One and Minimoog side-by-side videos.
I have a Moog One myself and I found a trick to add more 'sizzle' to the SAW tooth to make it sound a bit more like the raw signal Minimoog. It also helps to add a bit more punch to it as well. Would love for you to try it and see how it compares or how it helps beef up the Moog One raw signal.
Starting with an INIT Patch
In the oscillator section, (although I'm sure you know but others might not), you need to set the Wave to SAW and reset the Wave Angle so that it sounds as bright as possible (simply turn it to 12 o'clock then all the way back to the left. This resets the Wave to sound much brighter.
In the filter section, I will turn SVT and Ladder on for OSC 1. For the SVT Filter section, I set the Filter Cutoff to around 12 o'clock and set the Mode to HP. Then I set the SVT-Ladder Route to Series. For the Ladder Filter section, I crank Filter Cutoff all the way and keep the Mode on LP and Slope to 24db. Then, I push the SVT-Ladder Mix all the way to 100% Ladder.
I don't have a Minimoog to compare, but I find that this added high-end from the SVT both boosts the signal to give it a much fatter sound, but also introduces some of the missing high frequencies when you're just using the Ladder Filter. I think that's the trick to get a very RAW SAW (oh yeah!) signal from the Moog One. From there, I feel like you can re-create some pretty close sounding Minimoog Saw leads and basses. Would love to hear what you think of this little trick and how it compares to the Minimoog.
Yes! I use this technique a lot to get more aggressive lead sounds, but the overall tune is definitely still a little softer than the Model D. That's not to say it doesn't also sound incredible! It does; just different :D
Love your authenticity, rather than a sales pitch video like most others, your videos are like hanging out with a fellow musician friend who just bought a new musical instrument and wants to show you why they love it. I totally agree with you with the "tactile feel of an instrument". I have a ton of plugins and they can sound really great and almost identical to what they are emulating especially in a mix. However there is a "magic " with a well made instrument that inspires you to play which I do not get from plugins or cheaply made clones. The instrument becomes a living thing in the process of creating music when it is adored by its user.
Thank you so much for the incredibly generous compliment. It's really important to me to just be myself, so I appreciate you recognizing that; made my day :D
And yes! The FEEL of an instrument. It's so obvious to me. I still love software for a lot of things; the FabFilter suite is incredible for mixing, for example, and it is all over every one of my tracks, but I still like to use the Shelford Channels, because they feel amazing, they inspire me, and they sound phenomenal. I could go on and on about this... I guess I just don't see how people draw these weird artificial lines; no one needs any hardware anymore! We could all just use a laptop and some headphones and music would be fine and sound great, but it wouldn't be as inspiring or fun - at least for me, and I would suspect you too!
Wow you were slaying it, great playing!
Ah thank you!! I do alright on the keys :)
Always trying to get better, but I have always been bad about focused practice.
Hi, I'm from Belgium and your video's are very good and inspiring. I got myself last week a Moog Voyager RME desktop which is amasing good. I have also a big Buchla 200 system and Buchla Easel. I ove East and west Coast :) Congrats with you Model D.
Thank you for the Comparison between the Moog one and Model D. I can’t wait for you to make the filter overdrive Moog one video and compare it to the model D.
My pleasure!! Yes, I’ll get around to that at some point :)
I got a Voyager. Got a really ridiculous price a few years ago that I couldn’t turn down. Although not a Model D, still can get all the classic Moog sounds. And the ability to save programs is a +. I still want a Model D though.
And I still want a voyager!!! I’m waiting in hopes that they will release an updated version with some of the UI improvements from the Moog One :)
Nice addition to your setup and sounds amazing.
Thank you Phil! I was on the fence about adding adding another piece to the puzzle, but this one felt pretty right :D
Great stuff, I love the classic Moog alongside the newer flagship- great sounding combo!!!
Thank you!! Yes, it’s quite something to see the history so clearly juxtaposed. It’s a really beautiful sounding combo for sure :)
Wow! This is so much fun! dimund ❤
Your jams are so inspiring....
Thank you so much 🥹🙏🏼
I’ve just got one, and it has surpassed my expectations…. Really lovely sounding, great playability…. And I had the Boog too, and sound wise it was good, but the Minimoog does sound better to my ears, hard to say why, juicier maybe 😊
Love this video thanks. Found a UK retailer that had 2 re-issues come in today. Managed to get one 😀. Not sure I need it but it's so iconic and that sound.... just can't be beaten.
You're not crazy. Amazing sounds 💓.. I know nothing about Moogs in general, yet here we are. Thanks for helping us get re-acquainted with these classics. I love analog. The circuits have depth to creating the sounds. Same for the Farfisa or even Theremins. Pure hardware. What about the keyboard? How would you rate the quality?
Thank you for watching and listening!! The keyboard is really solid! It’s a pleasure to play :)
The timbre you're getting from around 1:00 is part of why the Mini D is still very much it's own thing. Somehow, despite having fixed pulse width settings, it manages to sound like there's PWM going on under that front panel. I sold mine years ago (not my smartest move, I know), but that sense of motion with even a static oscillator is something very hard to recreate on other instruments.
Yea, it’s not like any synth I’ve ever used, and I wonder if the higher fault tolerances that were considered acceptable from that era has something to do with the drift you are referring to. I’m sure one of our synth friends could chime in, as this is definitely just speculation on my part with the limited knowledge I have :)
@@dimund I think the iffy tolerances play a part. It's not just pitch drift though. It's almost like the waveshape is subtly changing over time too, which accentuates the sound when the oscillators go in and out of phase with each other. You just don't get that some effect on other synths (of any era). If I were an engineer I could probably explain it better.
Anyway, it was nice to see you add it. The Mini is one of the few instruments that lives up to the hype surrounding it.
That thing sounds good. Moog.
25:15 In my comparison of the Boog (semi modular unit not the key version) and a Model D Reissue from Moog, I found the two biggest sonic differences to my ears were the way the mixer section sums all the signals. On the Moog D Reissue, all of the oscillators (and noise/ext) summed nicely and even whereas on the Boog, the summing sounds more choked. I also noticed the filter/overdrive interaction that you mentioned here.
cool gear, cool groove, cool performance. A Mini Moog is my dream synth, but can't justify the price. I have a Moog Grandmother.
Honestly, I’m still kind of surprised that I got it for the same reason. The grandmother and matriarch are both so good, and I still sometimes think maybe the subsequent37 would have been a better choice for me, but the minimoog is really special. I had a voyager years ago, and I sold it in a pinch. Really wish I hadn’t. It was such a nice synth, and in some ways I liked it better than the mini.
Freaking lush beast , from the noise to the overdrive with filters, would love to see a future with guitar pedals into the ONE…. I have to run the headphones out of my moog minitaur back into Aux in to get overdrive…. the Supernatural self oscillation that goes into audio rates, is organically Phat AF, great examples .
Thank you so much! Yeah, I was reallllly blown away by how hard this thing can go. Beautiful synth !!
@@dimund quality gear just makes way for a stress free symbiotic interaction with the instrument , and focus on the music. With a great user interface and menu design ,even the exploration and experimentation is great biofeedback, with all the analog electrons floating about.
I want want one ❤️ it sounds so beautiful even on my crummy phone speaker!
That’s always good feedback to hear! I’m like, will this even translate when people watch/listen on their phones lol
@@dimund honestly all I want to do is learn that solo. *cough* transcriptions please >throws money< *cough*
Ahhh...just took delivery of my Cherry as well. Model D's are heirlooms. Congrats on your new synth, mine is 43. If you're like me they will bury you with it. Is that a copy of HANON behind your Push, dear? Your comment towards the end was really what it's all about. "It makes me want to play in a different way...."
Thank you and congrats to you as well!!!
Yes, it is a copy of Hanon! Always keeps me on my toes…. Err fingers :)
Love you ... Feel the same ... Have both ... You need an OBX8 & P5 !
Aww!! Thank you!! Yes, that would be really amazing, but no room! Maybe one day if I have a bigger place :D
Very powerful
Thank you!!
Well can’t blame you for getting a dream synth.. Very cool! How about now getting the Trigon 6! I think it will be sweet but of course overkill if you have the Moog one!
I’m holding out for a Voyager Re release in my dreams.. I need to save presets. Saying that..The Pro 3 is still the best! Ha ha and also feels like it’s own instrument so easy to use and program.. Enjoy the gorgeous Minimoog!
The Trigon sounds really great, and I am big fan of what Sequential does, but the One really fills that need for me. I am ALSO holding out for a Voyager redux but with an updated UI in the style of the Moog One. I'd buy that for sure.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment :)
sounds fire af wth; also I’m dying to know what your ableton push is mounted on?
Thank you! Yeah, the sound that comes out of this thing is nuts. As for the mount, it's a monitor arm from Fully and a vesa compatible laptop stand off of Amazon.
@@dimund thanks, gonna save me on space a ton, now I need a mini moog, very inspiring :)
Great video. Did you considered the Subsequent 37, instead of the Model D ?
I had a subsequent 37 in my shopping cart many, many times. It’s a phenomenal synth, but the Model D… I’ve just always wanted one. To be honest, there are times when I STILL GAS for a 37, even after getting the D lol. It’s really a future classic :)
@@dimund i think they would overlap a lot :)
Beautiful addition...
I agree that those synths are more in the instrument category where as to me workstations and beat machines are more like computers...
Like you could put either of those next to a high end buffet crampon clarinet for example and they would fit the same overall classification...
I for one needed no explanation as far as if the 2 of those together is redundant...
You will find having that combination opens up portals to outcomes that can't be achieved with either by itself...
Even having two identical synths set up differently doing different things providing a different workflow can drastically expand the unique possibilities opposed to just having the one...
Excellent choice...
I hope @MoogMusicInc notices that they have a very loyal and talented customer...
This was such a thoughtful and generous comment. Thank you so much. I'm really flattered and it brightened up my day more than you could know!
Yes, these two synths together make a TON of sense to me, and having the Model D on bass has freed the One up to be able to do tri-timbral chords, which sound really, really incredible. And this, of course, has inspired me in new ways - thinking differently about sound design, about composition, etc. I'm grateful to have music in my life and grateful to have such beautiful instruments.
Again, thank you for taking the time :D
@@dimund you will find lots of unique ways to use the two of those together...
And I would keep them stacked how you have them so it's easy to bounce between the two when formulating ideas...
I'm happy to see how happy you are with such a wonderful new thing...
Keep up the great work..!
Really understand your point of view in terms of buying quality instruments. This year I‘ve bought the P10 and my plan was getting the one maybe later. But now the price of the one 16 voice is 11k € in Europe - really gnarly (for me). I‘m asking myself now: Could a digital Iridium keys be enough for me instead of the one? Would love to hear you talking about Iridium vs One.❤😊 best regards, Simon
This is such a great idea for a video! Thank you!! I will try to shoot this over the week or so :D
@@dimund this would be really great because you own both 😃
Great vewing, I sold my 2016 re-issue not the best decision, your video is going to cost me! Thanks.....🎹😬
I am not going to apologize, because you'll be super happy to have this now and in 20 years from now :D
I have finally bought (awaiting delivery) a Model D (2016 Reissue). Do you have any thoughts on recording it? I've noticed that I'm possibly losing something in my signal path when I record my Arp 2600M. It feels more 'alive' in the studio and a little tamer during playback. I generally record my synths directly into a MOTU1248 leaving some headroom. Could it be psychological ?
Hell, yes. Glad you picked that up -- you're already rocking it. I've gotta see if next year allows me to grab one of these. I had been looking at Voyagers. Now I'm undecided. Anyway - love the new camera setup as well. Ser. #4. Fuck.
Ah, thank you so much for the feedback on the camera! I wasn't sure if that was going to work out okay. I am starting to realize how much better the new camera is than my other one for video, so I need to save up and upgrade.
The voyager is amazing and I had one in the past; I would get it again, but I am hoping they re-release it with and updated UI from the Moog One. That would be unreal.
Good old warm buttery moogness!
Never gets old imo!!
The Moog sounds a bit naked but I like where your going with this, I think some nice reverb and delay on the Moog will work nice.
Yes, I left it off intentionally! Agree it would sound really great with some reverb, but I wanted to showcase the dry signal; I always get frustrated when people are demoing synths and have the signal drenched in reverb :)
@@dimund Ofcourse and yes best to demo a sythersizor naked, first time hear so didn't know you where going to stop chat and do a demo like this, but it got Me to sub so, success there I guess. Great demo, what's your thoughts on Behringer Poly D? I have there Monopoly and it does sound sound very similar to a Moog also in My opinion.
Thank you for subscribing!!! I think the behringer stuff usually does the job. Their stuff isn’t for me, but I’m happy people are able to get access to some of these classic sounds :)
@@dimund I was impressed by the quality of the Behringer Monopoly, it feels like a quality bit of kit, on the same level of quality as My Navation Peak.
Noice! Makes me curious what other synths you have on your prospective future purchase radar.
TBH, if they came out with an OB-X8 desktop, I'd consider it, but I don't really see a need for any other synths now. I would like to get a Rhodes Mk8, Focal Trio6 Be 8s, an RME UFX+ and an RME M-1610 Pro, and a Neve Master Buss Processor :D
@@dimund Sounds pretty posh! Planning a lotto win then? ;)
A girl can dream can’t she :)
Nice Jam! What are you doing to light up the Overload lamp?
So, the Model D reissues have the ext. input mixer knob normaled to return the output signal if nothing is plugged into the ext. in jack; this is a shortcut to overload the mixer and achieve saturation that was originally accomplished using cables on the OG minimoog. It's just a convenience feature - which is also present on the Subsequent 37, Sequential Pro 3, and the new Sequential Trigon 6 (if I am remembering correctly) - but it's a pretty integral part of the Model D sound. It is pre-filter, which is also a big part of why it's so great for thickening up bass; you can drive the signal to get a bass sound that has very little dynamics (read loud), and then close the 24 dB filter to cut all the unwanted high frequencies. Adding some envelope amount to the filter opens it just enough to get that punchy sound that Moog is so well known for :D
@@dimund Thanks for this detailed reply! I have an OG ('76?) Mini that I love dearly. I occasionally do the feedback/overload trick.
Fabulous! 😀
Thank you!!!
I got the same combo now @dimund And on the other side of my studio I have an opposite combo of a Prophet 10 with a Pro 3SE.
Congratulations! Most guitarists have more than one guitar so I totally get it. Plus I enjoyed how you demonstrated the difference in timber between the D and the One. That really surprised me. Enjoy!
Ah, thank you! Yeah, I was surprised by that myself, and yes, every guitarist I know has sooo many guitars lol
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You tried your best? You're doing great!
My own worst critic! Thank you 🙏🏼
i like your top :)
How do you feel about the Mininmoog Model D released in Luna, or are you familiar with that?
I'm not familiar with it!
@@dimund Luna is a free DAW you get with the purchase of one of their UAD interface. It has a lot of cool plug-ins. I'm sure their's pros and cons to using softsynth as opposed to the real deal.
So freaking cool. I'm poor so I got a poly D :)
Thank you
Still debating wether or not to get a minimoog what are your thought 3 months later?
It sounds amazing, and I love having it, but I wouldn’t have gotten if I didn’t have the Iridium and One to cover certain styles of leads that it can’t do. If you have those bases covered, or you don’t care about those sounds, then it is fantastic :)
I use it most for bass and leads, as well as getting weird with pedals.
Can you tell me what kind of stand the Minimoog model d is on??
This is a K&M omega stand, but I would probably not recommend putting it on the second tier, as it’s a bit wobbly
Nice demo! :) I wish the One and the Minimoog were in tune though...
Are you referring to during the intro jam? I noticed the slight detune between them in post, as it wasn’t so apparent when I was recording - likely distracted trying to juggle everything - but I didn’t want to warp the audio and potentially introduce artifacts.
@@dimund Yes, and everything else, e.g. for the tone comparison it's slightly disturbing for the perception that they're not in tune - the main difference becomes the pitch. For "clinical" comparisons the volume _and_ _pitch_ need to be carefully matched. Not a big thing though, I still enjoyed the demo :)
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Now it's official :D
MoogOne is more a designers dream, the Mini is a players dream, both combined make dreams come true.
MoogOne without the 3 separate outs is why I would never buy one, having to track separate is important to my work flow.
Still does not mean I cannot appreciate what both do.
Seems like you're having fun and that's all that matters.
Thank you! Definitely having fun :)
You can multi-track out with the Moog One, and it’s one of my favorite parts about it. I typically have one synth out the mains in stereo, and then my leads and basses out the aux outs in mono. There is a second set of stereo sub outs as well - in addition to the 4 total mono aux outs. The output section of the UI is also modular, so you can flexibly route synths as needed :)
@@dimund This i never knew, this changes everything now, thank you for the info more research needs to be done.
xD
I am a Moo g. Yes, and hardware.
I hear you; it‘s always a good idea to have a mono synth above/beside a poly synth. It is different from unison patches on a poly; monos usually offer more headroom and immediacy.
But yes, IMHO the Minimoog is awfully overpriced. Amongst others, I have a Subsequent 37 and a Poly D which sound moogy enough to me. Build quality doesn‘t make the sound; if I need a large quality keybed, I use a P5 and midi.
I feel you! I don't think it is overpriced for what they are doing with respect to the build, but if all I cared about was the sound, I'd use soft synths for everything. Sounds like you have the mono territory covered really nicely with the Subsequent 37, so this wouldn't make sense :D
@@dimund Tbh, my best-sounding mono synth is a cheap BARP 2600 with the .. ahem … borrowed Moog ladder filter. It requires a lot of brainwork though. 🤯
Some classic SIDesque chip tune neurons in my brain were really tingling on the first two jams you did - both the patch and your playing style - loved it :D
It seems like a great compliment to the One, which isn't great at bassy/overdriven sounds anyway (turns into fizz due to the way the voices are mixed, but it is what it is).. so they should be a good double team. I don't think there is really any sound difference between the D and its clone, but the full sized form factor of the D is undeniably an inspiring hulking beast to sit in front of.. which in turn will affect how you play. I think it's something akin to the Les Paul or Strat that should always be in production. Congrats on serial 004 👍
Thank you so much! Regarding the One and overdriven sounds, I've gotten some really incredible stuff out of it when using a single layer and running the aux out into an overdrive pedal and back. I have a Chase Bliss Brothers and Preamp Mk II, and they both create a phenomenal sound when paired with the One - either by themselves or together in series. It's nice having the Model D, though, because that sound is built in to the synth itself, which I love.
I find you quite symphatic but want to add:
Unfortunately price doesn't relate to build quality.
The minimoog though is well built but also there are some tiny issues. But all in all it is outstanding on the market.
Allthough it is overpriced. Really it is. You pay for the brand. Same thing with sequential.
But the moog one isn't the same thing. Built qualitywise. It is also overpriced but people are willing to pay that.
Same synth with a behringer logo, people would have a different opinion, 100 percent.
Best
But i am happy that you are so much into it and happy.
What stand are you using for the moogs?
It's a K&M Omega
@@dimund Thank you!
complimenti ottimo brano bellissimo il vst questo c,e lho anche io
did you get yours from Sweetwater?
I did!
Can someone explain who is this woman?
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