WALK IN FREEZER NOT WORKING
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2019
- This was a call on a walk in freezer that was not working properly, I found that the unit was iced up but it was only the top half of the evaporator coil, I diagnosed a bad txv based off of the ice pattern and an extremely high superheat. I replaced the txv along with some door hinges and the unit is now working properly.
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Dude watching your videos. Any customer would be lucky to have you as the tech that comes out. So thorough and precise! Such amazing work ethic! You rock!
Another awesome video. The proper torque setting is when your bad wrist clicks. 👍
Exactly
But he was using the other, all I heard was a German torque, goodintight!
Wow, I'm totally impressed. We have an walk-in- Freezer repair coming up. Seeing this make me appreciate the time they spent working on it. Thanks.
I did a time comparison on my guys and me trying to defrost with the fans an motors in place compared to removed. We gained an average 30 minutes removing the fans and motors. And it also cost me 3 motors by not removing them!
I have found to braze those fittings that have the ability to fall off , easier to braze if I first squeeze the fitting, while on the pipe, just barely enough to get out of round ( and I mean barely, where its almost impossible to see with naked eye) then turning the fitting half a turn so it binds and can not fall off. Old pipefitters trick.
When I have to insulate a suction line and it is cut loose from the coil I slip the armaflex on line and compress it and hold it in place with a tubing cutter. That way you have no seams and potential for leaks. Also it looks clean.
Very clever , thanks for the tip
Love your videos and that fact that you are honest person and are thorough when diagnosing a repair. BTW, tell 'em to make shakes with the drippy soft serve, lol.
Again amazing. My work has a unit like this and since I signed up for classes ( I start in December for HVAC) I’ve been looking at the unit, and find it more and more fascinating! You’re a big help.
Funny enough me being someone that lives in the north, i kind of hate working in a walk in freezer. I'd rather do medium temp all day long haha. It amazes me at how long some of these jobs can take but to be expected.
You’re a very good tech and have a tons of knowledge I look up to you and I salute you sir
I find when unsweating I grab the pipe to be removed when i see the solder shine or start melting I find it speeds up the heat transfer to the solder, by holding early the pliers absorb a lot of heat, especially in confined places. you will half the time.great job master.
I do the same bro , cheers
Heard the elbow click !!!! Know it’s torqued correct
You know me!
I've had more emerson TXV vs all others over the years fail. They stink cause you cannot rebuild them. At this time sporland is all I use and always have great results. Different cartridges make the magic. Chris have them empty out the shelves..work smarter and safer. Be safe out there!
It would be so smart if they used a TEV where the head could be replaced. The Carrier slab coil units have so many of those valves failing, and they are such a pain to replace them. It's always during the hottest week of the year when they approve the work, too. On a Lennox L series, I can just change the head and clean the rod, and done!
Thanks for the video Chris
I usually valve off the liquid line service valve so you can still monitor high side pressure on the receiver. Just winging that out there to ya. Great videos, Great work ethic!
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Good repair! Had same issue this week and order the same parts. Unfortunately the repair has to be quoted and approved before I do it.
nice work mate, good on you.
warm greetings from Australia
Difficult repair... I can see that was not a easy one. Good to see you going the extra mile and redoing that suction line and the solenoid. Most techs would look at that and not redo.. I feel similar on installs and repairs that I do.. Try and do extra work to give yourself a higher percentage of first time success which saves time and stress and saves customer money.
Thanks bud
@@HVACRVIDEOS I love your videos
It looks like they JB welded that joint😂😂😂
Excellent job 👍👍👍
Thanks for the good video.
Dan D. I think using steam over hot water will be more economical in both power and water. I used it for years. Incidentally it was shown to me by my son, also in the trade. You never stop learning.
Awesome job
You can use your tubing cutters to hold the pipe still when brazing like you were. It also adds weight to keep the pipe from falling.
Will all that ice cream now have a burnt compressor oil flavor??? LOL Try our new toasted POE sundae swirl!!
@@georgephillips6521 yes they will. The secret is that when it's originally made they flash freeze it to give it a "light" and "creamy" texture. (both myself and my Grandfather worked in dairy. Me with cows and my Grandfather at Bordens where he retired. )
Nice adjustable torque wrench dude! :-)
great video n great feedback.
1000% on taking the motors blades and the mounts out
Tight spot to workin good job
Brilliant video and explained like a pro.👍One thing I noticed is that why is the wiring all over the place on the outdoor units. Here in the uk I always run cables in copex or use SY cable which is like a flexible armoured cable and not easy to chew by mice & rats...
Nice work
That defrost pattern would make me initially suspect incomplete defrosting(assuming the element is on the bottom of the coil). Curious why you didn’t do down that route at all?
hands of steel man
No P-trap on that suction line ?
Or inverted trap on roof
I thought the same thing!!
Should have a trap on SL, that's why the oil in SL, no P trap, to increase velosity and carry oil up the SL. Heard you say 8 to 10 degrees superheat, for freezer ? thats a bit high. And please make sure you have proper ventilation when using a open flame inside any closed Walkin's." Phosgene gas " very deadly. I realize you were working in difficult circumstances, been there many times. Very Good job, well done Chris
8-12 is perfect for both super heat an subcool you don't want any higher than that
8 a 12 ala salida del evaporadol
Great job.
Rookie Refrigeration hey man , miss your videos. hope to see new ones soon .
GhostFace NoFace I’ll have one Tomorrow I think. Thanks for watching bro.
I love that flaming poe. Nothing makes a green guy have a brown moment like that.
they learn to keep their face and body out of the line of fire real fast that way :)
Can you please do a short video on how to install the bulb clamps? I have seen many seasoned techs that can not do them properly, either they are loose or just zip tied.
That’s my mentor
Hahaha what a junkyard wars grade connection
Not yours I mean the multiple braises
When I was working I would defrost an iced up evaporator with a domestic steam wallpaper stripper steam would condense on the ice so no mess and was quick.
would u say its quicker than using plain old hot water from a garden hose? or some what the same? i want to try ur idea, sounds good
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For which one's faster, I looked at thermodynamics. It doesn't look good for the steam wallpaper stripper.
To melt ice, you need energy, not temperature. A gallon of hot water carries less energy than that same gallon of water turned to steam at 212F, sure, but that steam will now take up 106.5 gallons of space. Steam is a lot less dense, meaning it takes longer to deliver it assuming the same flow rate as the hot water hose.
So with those assumptions, the hot water hose carries higher thermal energy per second into the ice (energy per unit time is power, so we could simply say that the hose carries higher thermal power).
Also, last time I checked a steam wallpaper stripper runs off a standard 15A 125V circuit, so you can only get a max of 1875W of heat into the steam, whereas the water heater the hot water hose is connected to might run off gas (lotsa power) or a 40A 240V circuit (9600W), so even if you "run out of hot water" you're still delivering AT LEAST 9600w of heat into that ice using the hot water hose.
I don't really need to do the math to know that I'm right, simply because a pound of steam takes up so much more room than a pound of water.
This means that the hot water hose is better in both respects, but feel free to use the steam wallpaper stripper if you have a restricted drain or are getting paid by the hour.
@@44R0Ndin yep
@@44R0Ndin man, maybe get a girl friend or some thing, u seem kinda angry or something, lol u just spent like 30min typing that lol...we all took the course, ok, ok, u win, lol. ....slow clap hahahaha
also, have u ever poured water onto a ice up coil in a freezer were it sticks out futher than the drain pan? using a hose, it pours onto the floor. using buckets kinda work, but it will freeze to the floor and u have to use a small steam of water, but of course u know that? depending how bad it is of course
Chris love your brother 1 reefer technician to the next
i use to keep a old filter and sight glass and use them for welding the tubing holding it all together i got tired of caring it around so i just made up a bypass tube for welding it up
Hey just wanted to give a shoutout. Been watching your videos for around a year now and they have been a tremendous help. What nitrogen regulator do you use when your brazing??
The back of that coil looked like it frosted up pretty quick. Was there a lot of moisture in there? I'm assuming that's why you fixed the door
Installers should reduce the size of a vertical portion of a suction line to increase refrigerant velocity for proper oil return so it wont sit at the evap.
Long videos! Oh yeah. Nice and Good!
What are good HVAC apps for finding superheat/subcool psig etc
Good
Also do you think the oil could have played some part in the funky icing pattern
Just curious on those flare adapters that you brazed on, are those actually good flares from the manufacturer? I never trust manufacturer flares on line sets for ductless units, you can always count at least one bad flare.
When brazing inside walkin box n some have sprinkler systems do u need to shut them off b4 brazing ?
Love the vids..keep em coming...
Question..why dont you use csg combo...sight glass and drier already assembled?
because than when you have to change the drier again you need another csg, more or less a personal preference.
Do you have a video on why you choose to use field piece instead of testo
How about door gaskets? They looked like they were beat.
Hey Chris nice job,and i have two questions why don't you install an oil trap and the second is that the pressure sense of txv is connected after temp sensor of txv not before. Any way keep on man!
What kind of wand is that for your hose?
Where can I get one of those solenoid magnets?
I'm starting to wonder if a small "steam machine" would be a great setup for coil deicing.
lol, as I was typing this I seen someone else commented the same thing earlier and sounds like they've tried it
I wonder if just changing the piece of copper for the Suction line and reattaching the sensing bulb would have had a better result on the evaporator? Just for giggles to confirm if txv is bad.
What do you say when the facility staff comes in and acts like there's a problem with the flame if they see this process while your working?
Have you every used a turbo torch? I prefer them as you only need an acetylene tank. I find it works well for Residential HVAC.
Not enough heat I find, can’t get a proper braze
Can you refer somewhere to buy a complete cooling unit for walk in freezer that has been stripped of all parts\
Hey Chris, I’ve noticed and commented that some of the jobs you are on do not have pee traps at the evap coil. I’m betting your oil issue is what caused the txv failure. There should have been a trap on that system. Furthermore, since you were already removing the boogered section of suction line for the bulb - you should have installed a trap! You still wouldva needed a place for the bulb but heck since you were doing all that work anyhow, why not add the additional piping and do it right. Just curious...love your videos and watch them all.
who says it doesn't? just because there is no P trap inside the freezer maybe it doesn't go directly up ... you only install a P trap on vertical rise 6ft and up for Larger pipes P trap heights change
You know its a tight space when you are sweating in a freezer lol
Why not use soft solder on the suction line? Lower melting point.
Hello and love learning the trade from you. I am coming from the automotive side and wanted to share a tool that you may already know about. It is a ratcheting tube cutter. Used it a lot on brake lines with no room. Check it out if you haven't yet. Thanks for the high quality vids.
What are you using to get the gauges to go to your Samsung device? Do you have to use the job link transmitter or does it do it by itself using Bluetooth and download onto Samsung device? Thanks ahead, I have subscribed to your tools but have not seen anything yet. Thanks in advance my friend.
I defrosted that today and changed a evap motor.
Do you ever worry about oil logging of the evap without having a trap on there?
D W Oil trap usually on to of box. At least that’s how I’ve always done it. That way keep as little piping down below as possible.
How come it didn't have a suction ptrap in the box?
who says it doesn't? just because there is no P trap inside the freezer maybe it doesn't go directly up ... you only install a P trap on vertical rise 6ft and up for Larger pipes P trap heights change
That’s sad they lost it all
Tough day
5:48 XD lol. They where short on copper and used scraps lol.
There wasn't a p-trap. Just curious, why didn't you add one?
Ha! "It's hot!"
Now, how could that possibly be? :'D
Stainless steel - yup!
No nitrogen purge?
That joint looked fugly... what grade silver solder you use there...
56%
5:49 looks like line set was reused multiple times on evap changes and turned into a cobbled up mess, yeehaw
I’m sorry if you’ve answered this already. But what size is that rosebud tip?
Shawn Price For oxy torches there’s really only 2 sizes small and large. Small for 1/4 to to 7/8’s large for 1” and up.
There are plenty of sizes. I believe they range from 4-10. They also make dual tips. Used to braze 3/16” to 8” copper.
Chris. You ever seen a walk in freezer where the time clock is mounted in the walk in. I recently went to a new call where this is the case. My question to you is, is this acceptable. I've never seen one like this.
Yeah its fine
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Y didnt u put a suction trap at the evap
FIRE !!!! lol smoking
you use hot water or cold water for defrost those ice in freezer ?
Preferably hot water but cold water works fine too
The Dark Side Of The Frost .....
How much stock was lost? Seeing the Ice Cream was melting
They didnt throw anything away........
Thats an outstanding result considering what the job threw at you and how long it took to get it all running well again. Your tech skills are great and your work ethic is of the highest quality.
It’s been running like that for a good while, see it all the time. A lot of the customers I see keep theirs also when they have an issue with the w/I freezer.
why dont you use nitrogen while you unsweat the joints ?
Did they had a backup freezer
Nope
That sucks
And you cleaned the evaporator coil
while defrosting
Frozen boxes usually never have issues. Its usually med temp boxes to get filthy
@@FlyEaglesFly19111 it never hearts to clean anything!
Should say steamer with a nozzle rather than the plate thingy.
Had a similar icing up on 404a freezer. I added defrosts problem solved.
How many defrosts?? No more than 2 a day @45min
Lol....pain in butt ..is this also include in demo. ..
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Does that solder you use already have flux? I’ve never seen you use any flux paste before when soldering. Just wondering. :)
No flux needed because it is 15% silfos on copper to copper just clean the metals and apply heat. If I am working on dissimilar metals than I will use 56% silver solder with a silver paste flux
Ever try using 6? I find it flows much easier without needing as much heat.
I am personally in electronics technician so most of the time flux is needed so we don’t burn the board since it aids in more efficient heat transfer without needing as much heat. I wasn’t aware that that was actually possible for soldering pipe. But then again I’m not an HVACR technician yet. If all else fails I’ll probably be looking into getting into the field. I do know a bit about it and more so thanks to your videos. so who knows?
For the amount of promo you do for big blue you would think they would sponsor you at some point.
Ha ha what can I say I genuinely like their products. I can sleep easy knowing I'm not endorsing a product simply because I'm getting paid.....
Torque setting = Does not leak
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