Piteba Oil Press conversion - add motor, thrust bearing , new nozzle ( part one )
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Details on how a new nozzle and thrust bearing was machined to make the Piteba work more efficiently . Also some discussion on the motor and gear reduction . The next parts will talk more about the gearing , rpm, and some sunflower seed pressing tips.
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Damn this guy is an engineering genius!
He did this the hard way. I salute this man, but way too much work. Plus, very hard to move this heavy arrangement to another location in his house. There are plenty of low RPM motors on eBay. The 90 RPM motors there look solid and are $60. This man started at about 100 RPM then added the sprockets n chain to reduce further to 50 RPM. Personally, I think 90 RPM is not too fast. Though perhaps this speed will heat the seeds too much. I would contact the augur manufacturer in Holland and ask what the RPM of their motor is. His motor is overkill size. A smaller motor will work ok due to high torque output at 90RPM.... Who knows. Maybe there are 50-60 RPM motors on eBay.
Amazing, I admire people who know so much about machines and can fabricate the parts they need. Very nice work!
With all the skill and work u pit into it. It looks like you could build a better press from scratch yourself :)
my friend did all this work on it - and maybe true but when you start out with the forged pieces that saves a lot of work. There is a bit of engineering in that part of the project . It is always are factor of time involved compared to cost for something that will get the job done.
Well done!
Take a look at this press when he had it peddle powered . Video on the Alan playlist on my page here.
This is great!
I want to upgrade to a motor but the one they sell is too expensive and I'm not a Machinist like you! Any recommendations appreciated!
Great job!
It isn't the easiest retrofit - it takes a bit of tinkering. You can do it but it won't be plug and play . The best build that I saw someone had who was inspired by this had the shaft machined down to take a standard off the shelf thrust bearing and coupler. They then used a dayton gear reduction motor. There are a few parts to this video - watch all the parts to get an idea of what you might be up against. good luck !
@@LarryKapp1 thanks! I guess I'll find someone who could help me with this. Must be an easy, cheap and available solution (:
Fantastic work. Thank you for sharing! Out of curiosity, what's the inner diameter of the thrust bearing? (Is that the 1/2" you reference?)
The shaft was not standard size and my friend Alan made a custom thrust bearing to fit it since he was a machinist. But someone else had the shaft milled to standard 1/2 inch size I think so that they could buy regular easily available thrust bearing . That was a much better approach. I think I discussed that in one of the comments on this video or in the other video about this press.
@@LarryKapp1 Happen to remember the the diameter of the shaft by chance, before it was milled?
@@nathanvenuto8263 No don't know that if it wasnt' mentioned in the video.
Price ?
The Piteba Oil Press is a hand crank model. It has been modified with a used motor and gearbox. It depends on what motor you can find to use of parts from something else instead of new.
ok it sucks you say... so is there a better press on the market? I'm not gonna modify it like you obviously so who has a better model?
It doesn't suck - it is just that if you motorize a hand crank press then you will need to make it stronger than it is normally because of the extra torque and power of the motor .
@@LarryKapp1 so if I dont motorize it I dont need new bearings and a custom nozzle?
@@trollmcclure1884 I can't answer that because this is a friends oil press - I don't have any experience with it myself using it by hand. I am guessing there must be other videos of people who do use it that way. My friend first had it hooked up to peddle power - there is video of that on my youtube also. I think the main reason he built the other nozzle was that he had problem getting the nozzle cleaned if the residue out got caught up on the threads inside that nozzle . That is because the supplied nozzle is a plumbing fitting that has a hole drilled in it. Plus my friend was using sunflower seeds with the husks on them so it really gets hard. If someone was pressing different kinds of seeds perhaps it doesn't get as hard as fast and clearing that nozzle might be much easier.
@@LarryKapp1 ok then. It's a wonder that the crank doesnt fall off when I see the hard husks behaving like a wood. Folks should use a drill IMO. Yea, I've seen a stainless version of the same design that looks sturdier. Maybe it is a good buy. Do you think the productivity is near the industry standard? Like - let's say there is 30% oil in the seed and they get 28 and you get 25% out? I mean is it worth it or it's wasting food, you know...?
@@trollmcclure1884 - if the difference in oil production was only 3% for a home oil pressing compared to commercial - I certainly wouldn't worry about that . I have no idea what percent of oil gets pressed out - like I said I have no personal experience - just watched my friend . There is no waste if what is left over goes into garden compost or chicken food - it all gets used.
I need a speed reducers
yeah that may have helped.
Hi are you familiar with amaranth seeds, I tried using the piteba to press them but they keep falling out the machine, they are too small. I wonder if there could be some type of alteration to the piteba to get it to press the amaranth seeds
If those seeds are too small , I doubt there are any mods that could be made because it would need tighter tolerance in the auger design than it has. Besides all that amaranth seed has such a low oil content that it isn't a very good seed to try to get oil out of. I am no expert but smaller seed, less oil content , means more pressing force - and that means more heat produced trying to make it. Maybe commercially they would use some kind of hydraulic press instead of this design.
@@LarryKapp1 yes the oil content is small from those seed. I saw another German company selling an oil press that would get the job done and even press some leaves and orange peels. oelwerk.com/en/oil-presses/oelwerk-oil-presses/ The problem is the prices starts $4000 and up.
Yes it makes sense Hydraulic press must be what those companies that are selling that cold press oil are using. Thanks for the info. Now I will have to figure out the type of hydraulic press they use for those tiny seeds
@@LarryKapp1 I found this other machine the video is here on RUclips ruclips.net/video/tiLo59F8luI/видео.html
But its $9000 this company is in America
@@jaminjackson857 That oelwerk looks like a quality machine. The Piteba is a toy compared to that one.
@@LarryKapp1lol 😀 their price is no joke too
He did this the hard way. I salute this man, but way too much work. Plus, very hard to move this heavy arrangement to another location in his house. There are plenty of low RPM motors on eBay. The 90 RPM motors there look solid and are $60. This man started at about 100 RPM then added the sprockets n chain to reduce further to 50 RPM. Personally, I think 90 RPM is not too fast. Though perhaps this speed will heat the seeds too much. I would contact the augur manufacturer in Holland and ask what the RPM of their motor is. His motor is overkill size. A smaller motor will work ok due to high torque output at 90RPM.... Who knows. Maybe there are 50-60 RPM motors on eBay.
Alan was very frugal and used whatever he had salvaged in the past and was at hand in the scrap bin. Someone else who watched this did a build where they machined down the shaft to standard size so they could use off the shelf bearings and couples. His machine worked much smoother. I don't remember which motor rpm he used . But , there are much better ways to build it. Take a look at the 3 wheel tricycle build Alan did - video on my youtube here . There is an Alan playlist of his projects .
@@LarryKapp1 I did see this seed auger rigged up to a bicycle on RUclips. Thanks for expanding on what your friend did to hook up the auger to the motor. He is super clever/ I will go see his other projects/ What country are you and Alan in?
@@LarryKapp1 tricycle ruclips.net/video/eAUr7mPRQOc/видео.html
@@zenzekezenard4269 We are in Wisconsin in USA. Alan sadly passed away a few years ago. I am glad I got some of his projects documented. He was a real live off the land kind of a person and didn't use the internet at all . I would bring him some youtube videos to watch sometimes if I thought it would help him, but he was a hands on guy who just liked to get to work on something. Alan always had some special project he would work on , and focus his attention on that along with his farming the land. His last project was the 3 wheel tricycle he built.
electrical heater is good more than this