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I am selling a 2018 Les Paul classic ebony with P 90s, somebody is offering to trade for mine with a 2013 Les Paul standard. Mine is in mint condition, all original with the hardcase and paperwork, the Standard offered for trade wasn't all original because the pickups were swapped and it wouldn't come with case or paperwork. I'm just wondering if I skipped out on a good deal??? Does anyone have an idea if I should have taken the deal? They were only about $1000 apart at the time of purchase, mine being cheaper of course, but the mods and no case and no paperwork threw me off a bit....
When Trogly calls someone "the scum of the Earth," you know my man's pissed. Dude NEVER gets THAT vulgar. But seriously, thank you for another cool lesson and new knowledge on avoiding these creeps.
While it sucks that somebody might get scammed, glad to see this video. Always a good thing when you can point out what to look for and avoid. Thanks for the heads up.
This was on every Facebook group I've seen. I really can't belive how many people actually believed it. Its kind of scary to be honest how many people could have been screwed over.
Nowadays if it's too fantastic to be true it probably is. lol Even my gf who doesn't know a Gibson from a Ford could go on the internet and in two minutes find out that this guitar is a scam. hahaha but the thing is there will always be people out there that will go and take that chance that they will be the only ones that see this guitar. lol
Chinese websites like Ali Express or DH Gate will steal actual Gibson pictures off the internet to use as their own photos. They try to be sneaky and black out the serial number, but it's quite obvious.
Back in 84, I had a small 2nd job. One of the coworkers commented oh I see you play guitar, I have one for sale, maybe you’d be interested, I said yeh sure what is it? He said I think it’s a Les Paul, I will even throw in the amp, I paid $450 for the amp, I said OK, what kind of Money you talking? He said I dunno $200 work for you? I said yeh sure, all night I was heavy with anticipation, the next day he gets out of his car carrying an amp and hard shell case, it said Gibson on the case, I said heck I’d give him a deuce even if the case was empty, he opened the case, long story short it was a 68 Gold top Les Paul Custom. I have never parted with $200 so eagerly, I kept it a few years before giving it to my friend, there are deals to be had, but yeh 84 was a long time ago but it was a steal even then
Wow, I ask this same exact post In the Washington DC area yesterday. I’ve found great deals on Craigslist, but ALWAYS meet the person, don’t fall for that shipping BS
I really like how in your original video for the rosewood top Les Paul Custom you put callouts on screen for the songs you were playing and had a pop up picture of the amp/cab you were playing the guitar through. I forgot you did that until watching this video. I really appreciate your playing in your videos as I think it is relatable to many of us viewers. I get the best idea of how a guitar might sound in my hands, at my house, from your vids of anyone I watch on RUclips. I always appreciate honesty and transparency in demos and would love if you started doing those things again. Love you vids as always!
I just went local last night to buy a mint alpine white 82 SG with the original chainsaw case. I’m lucky I haven’t been murdered with all the late night Craigslist deals I’ve made
4:44 I've seen that kind of ad a while back. I reported it for breaking ebay listing rules but I had no clue these were hacked accounts! Now I'm really glad I reported it.
THOSE ARE THE WRONG TUNERS! You can even seen the impression of the individual Deluxe tuner bodies which would have had GOLD TULIP or STEP KEY HEADS! How did you not notice that?!
Very glad this video wasn't taken down for the Green Day references near the end. I don't know what my lone Gibson guitar (a 2009 Les Paul Goldtop) was made from. Perhaps when the pandemic is over, I will try getting it appraised.
It’s also listed in Little Rock/Memphis Arkansas craigslist as “Super 1974 Gibson Les Paul Electric Guitar - $500.” Same exact pictures. Thank you very much for this heads up man.
I have sold guitars on Craig List before and have had someone try to scam me with the line. "I live too far away but can you meet me half way", the reason I know it's a scam because every guitar I sold, they would use the same exact line, but a different voice on the phone. "I am buying for my husband, but I live to far away, can I meet you half way?" I don't go to anyone, you come to me, so I have home field advantage. That's the oldest trick in the book, lure you into unfamiliar territory and than meet the person, while someone comes up behind you and jacks you with a sock full of pennies and takes your guitar. I was in the military, so I know all the scams, especially on Pay Day outside the main gate. NEVER MEET ANYONE IN UNFAMILIAR TERRITORY, even if you take a buddy, they still have the advantage of surprise to ambush you.
@Trogly's I actually got the scammer to contact me off his Houston, TX ad. Told me a nice sob story that he was selling for his sister and she was having a hard time. I told him I would pay cash. He said that was great. I told him I would pay cash after I validated the guitar by in-depth inspection. Asked me to send cash Western Union first. Told him inspection first and I would have cash. Asked me where to meet. I gave him an address and never heard back. I gave him a local sheriff's department address. Don't know if he ever figured that out or just quit when he could not have the money first. $5,000 maybe but $500 was scam all day long.
This sometimes happens in the classic car market, it hasn’t happened recently but it was happening as recent as June, it’s always a classic ford such as an escort or cortina, cars that are quite valuable but eg. A 1972 Ford Escort MK1 RS2000 for £5000 and only has one picture, but these are a £40,000 car.
I'd love to still be able to work, as I'd be able to actually afford one, and would love it dearly! I have tried to sell items on Craigslist twice, and both times I was inundated by scammers, and I'm glad now to still own the guitars! Thanks for another great episode Austin! Keith
I saw that ad. Just to amuse myself I responded to the scammer. I did get a reply. They were 'selling it for their sister' and needed my email to send to her.
This ad was on my local NorCal craigslist this morning. Went back to look at it 10 mins later because I was debating between deal or scam and it had disappeared. They almost had me!!
Yeah, i was looking at a Tele on Craigslist, that seemed like an awesome deal, until I did a little reasearch on the model and found it was not offered in that color, had the wrong tuners and the wrong neckplate- a scam. The guy also had variuos Gibsons that did not match up to what they supposed to be. CL and Ebay are buyer beware- If you don't know your guitars, stay away.
Here is some advice for those who want to roll the dice and buy a guitar off of Craigslist. I bought one guitar off of CL and what I did was to call a reputable guitar store near the seller (no, not Guitar Center) and have the seller bring the instrument in there for an evaluation from the stores luthier. I then talked to the luthier and he laid out the condition and authenticity of the instrument. The guitar was verified legit so I sent the money to the music store, they paid the seller, then the store boxed and shipped the instrument to me. The fee for the inspection, transfer of funds, and shipping was $300 but well worth it on a high end instrument. Of course it is always way better to see and inspect the instrument in person, but you now have a second option if you need it.
I have a guitar listed on Craigslist. I got over 10 texts trying to scam me with voice codes, email addresses, and 3rd party buyers. The trick is to not check the box to show you number but to put it in the description as numbers and words. Like 33zero-.....
I've seen one Brazilian Rosewood Custom. In 1997 it was at a guitar shop in Manassas or Manassas Park Virginia. It was tagged $5000. It was somewhere between Heavily Gigged and Beat to Death but I still wanted it. They would not come down on the price. Listening to Trogly I'm glad I passed. I did buy gear from that shop occasionally.
Only last week in the U.K. I came across a fabulous J200 a Martin and a Les Paul on Craig list all advertised by the same seller claiming emptying attic for family and wanting quick sale. In short I didn’t even bother trying to set up a meet in a public place since anyone with an ounce of sense in London could of taken them to any of the dealers on Denmark st and walked out of their with at least five grand as opposed to the £1500 for the three? Clearly a scam and the old adage if it’s too good to be true, then it is.
I bought what was supposed to be a Taylor acoustic off of ebay. The seller mailed an empty USPS envelope with tracking information to a different address in my zip code instead of shipping my guitar. Luckily I live in a small township and was able to track down the envelope. I took pictures of the envelope, got a notarized statement from my mail carries that she did not deliver a guitar to my address and verification from USPS that the "guitar" (envelope) was DELIVERED TO A DIFFERENT ADDRESS. Even with all the proof I sent them ebay still found in favor of the scammer and refused to give me a refund. I argued with ebay for 2 weeks before finally giving up and going to Paypal. Paypal refunded my money within five minutes of me emailing them pictures of all the evidence. Ebay knows that scammers rip people off on ebay and they do not care. They aren't losing the money so they don't care.
My first eBay account got hacked. I had zero items listed one minute then I had 15,000 items listed the next. Yes, you get an email for each one. Then the phone rang. It was eBay calling to inform me something wasn't kosher. It took hours to delete all those emails. Closed the account, and had to start all over.
i would'nt dream of buying an old norlin without checking with you or skeeter whittaker on the norlin era les paul facebook page..... you guys forgot more than i ever knew and the only reason i know my 76 custom is the real deal is i bought it in 76 and still have the reciept.... a buddy of mine bought a chinese fake and it was crazy how "decent" it was, did'nt fool me but from 30 feet away it looked like the real deal..... bet its even worse with old strats and tele's
It should be noted 500 bucks is the max amount you can wire through western union and most money orders. That is the biggest red flag, offer them 700 bucks and they will insist on 500.
It’s on Pittsburgh Craigslist. If he would be asking for $1500, I would have made an attempt to snag it.. sometimes you do get the bear. I got my 1963 Gibson ES 330 TDC for $50. Including the case. Of course that was in 1968
Had a guy locally trying to scam with a few "custom shop" guitars he had for sale recently. Using pictures on a Craigslist listing for guitars he didn't actually have. I showed up to his run-down trailer to find that the guitars he was advertising didn't exist and he had several fakes he was trying to pass as real - including what he claimed was a Gibson Custom Shop '61 SG in alpine white. I got out as quick as I could but later that night, at work at a local guitar shop, a customer came in with a guitar for sale. Turns out it was the fake '61 SG and I had to break the news to the guy that I had already seen the guitar that day and it was a clear fake...he got screwed out of $900 cash in a parking lot. The moral - if it looks too good to be true it probably is!
Yeah there was something like this awhile back when i bought an Ibanez RG 6002 off of Reverb. The image used was used over on another sale from another seller. On reverb and on Facebook marketplace.
I'm only a minute in but this looks kind of familiar... In 2017 someone posted MY guitar to the local Craigslist for $500 (its worth much more.) It's a fairly unique guitar so local musicians recognized it quickly and contacted me personally. In my case I figure it was probably an angry peer or ex-companion yanking my chain. This isn't necessarily related, but the Craigslist ad in this video reminded me of my own Craigslist scam snafu.
I came across this same scam one time except it was a truck. I found a deal, talked to the seller, and then they said to send money and they would ship the truck. Ship the truck? Lol.
Hocus Pocus by Focus? Really impressed by your expanding lick library. I know some of the guys at Harmonix (Rockband and Guitar Hero developers) and you are exactly what they wanted to happen when they made those games.
Trogly love your channel, and not sure if you can control how long the youtube ads play on a single Trogly video, but now it's having to sit thru 4-6 full length ads....used to be able to hit skip ad on the second ad.....getting painful.
$500 USD? My 2011 Studio cost $800+ - a fair price, no real deal, but not ripped off either. Plays like butter 😍. Sigh. Even after 3 strokes I've not lost enough brain cells to do anything but laugh at that listing. Not that I wouldn't LOVE to have it, but I know better. You should too.
Rock or not? Not an ECL/ Norlin era Les Paul at that price before Leo's essentially had them retool. I guess from a pure collectors perspective they make as much sense as any rare guitar and they play and sound fine but I have seen very few if any pre Leo's Les Paul's where the top met the binding correctly. The absence of recurve is aesthetically appalling and is a reminder of how ECL and Norlin compromised the brand. Fred Gretsch famously advised Ted McCarty that if Gibson was going to try to compete with Fender in the solid electric guitar market that they should "build it like a real guitar". Ted wisely heeded the advice and in doing so the Les Paul was truly distinguished from any other solid body electric guitar available in 1952. The two features that exemplified this commitment the most were setting the neck and recurving the top. When Les Paul production resumed in 1968 the recurve was pretty much gone supposedly due to tooling having not been maintained. I have also heard that it was possibly a management decision based on the fact that not building with recurve was cheaper. If tools and skills are not perfectly honed there is the possibility of chipping out the edge on what would be one of the final operations. The problem was corrected when Leo Malliaris commissioned one thousand instruments built essentially as the first '59 reissue. Apparently the negotiation was contentious at one point because of concerns over controlling cost of production and recurve was one of the main sticking points. Those instruments were built in 1981 and 1982. My '81 Deluxe, (purchased from Leo incidentally), exhibits good recurve so apparently some significant change took place in the wake of the Leo's run. Leo by the way was the guy who along with Glen Quan brought us the Bad Ass Bass Bridge essentially changing how bass bridges are built. I would be VERY curious to examine the 20th anniversary model that was mentioned. It is certain to be a prettier guitar. Great content as always. I never fail to learn something new here. Cheers!
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If a deal is too good to be true... it likely is. This scam utilizes a rare Les Paul to cause confusion
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I thought that you were going to say that it was one of those Silver burst guitar z in disguise....... wouldn't that be something.....lol
The Trogly's Guitar Show Yes, I would rock that Brazilian Rosewood LP Custom.
I am selling a 2018 Les Paul classic ebony with P 90s, somebody is offering to trade for mine with a 2013 Les Paul standard.
Mine is in mint condition, all original with the hardcase and paperwork, the Standard offered for trade wasn't all original because the pickups were swapped and it wouldn't come with case or paperwork.
I'm just wondering if I skipped out on a good deal??? Does anyone have an idea if I should have taken the deal?
They were only about $1000 apart at the time of purchase, mine being cheaper of course, but the mods and no case and no paperwork threw me off a bit....
This is exactly why I only buy guitars from the dude in my alley.
I heard about that guy. All of his guitars all fell of the back of a truck, right?
@@nankypooh655 When I asked, he wouldn't say, he assured me everything's legit.
When Trogly calls someone "the scum of the Earth," you know my man's pissed. Dude NEVER gets THAT vulgar. But seriously, thank you for another cool lesson and new knowledge on avoiding these creeps.
While it sucks that somebody might get scammed, glad to see this video. Always a good thing when you can point out what to look for and avoid. Thanks for the heads up.
This was on every Facebook group I've seen. I really can't belive how many people actually believed it. Its kind of scary to be honest how many people could have been screwed over.
Even sadder that probably someone has already been scammed...
Nowadays if it's too fantastic to be true it probably is. lol Even my gf who doesn't know a Gibson from a Ford could go on the internet and in two minutes find out that this guitar is a scam. hahaha but the thing is there will always be people out there that will go and take that chance that they will be the only ones that see this guitar. lol
As the saying goes....... A fool and his money are soon parted. Buyer be ware....... Reputable sellers should be considered.
Saw it here 2 days ago in Jasper Alabama,
Chinese websites like Ali Express or DH Gate will steal actual Gibson pictures off the internet to use as their own photos. They try to be sneaky and black out the serial number, but it's quite obvious.
Hello Mr Trogly, I'm a Nigerian prince looking to move a rare custom shop guitar out of my country...
😂
Henlo Nijerien prine! How do make tranfer.??
@@TheMidnightModder Would you take you a priceless Ruby in trade for the guitar?
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I think he is a scammer also ... wouldn’t trust him ...
Ooh a new scam vid! Haven't done one of these in a while!
Bought this baby. Sounds nice and feels superb. The lessons really helped me develop.
I have now played air guitar semi pro for 8 months.
Rock on.
Back in 84, I had a small 2nd job. One of the coworkers commented oh I see you play guitar, I have one for sale, maybe you’d be interested, I said yeh sure what is it? He said I think it’s a Les Paul, I will even throw in the amp, I paid $450 for the amp, I said OK, what kind of Money you talking? He said I dunno $200 work for you? I said yeh sure, all night I was heavy with anticipation, the next day he gets out of his car carrying an amp and hard shell case, it said Gibson on the case, I said heck I’d give him a deuce even if the case was empty, he opened the case, long story short it was a 68 Gold top Les Paul Custom. I have never parted with $200 so eagerly, I kept it a few years before giving it to my friend, there are deals to be had, but yeh 84 was a long time ago but it was a steal even then
I refuse to go to bed until I watch the 1am trogly video
But jimmy, you’re only 8 years old!
I paid $450 for my 1980 black w/gold hardware Gibson Les Paul Custom back in 1985. By far the best deal I've ever come across.
Common sense ain't that common, it should be called uncommon sense!
Wow, I ask this same exact post In the Washington DC area yesterday. I’ve found great deals on Craigslist, but ALWAYS meet the person, don’t fall for that shipping BS
Ha I saw this in south jersey craigslist yesterday. You can’t even get an Epiphone Les Paul custom for $500.
Love Hocus Pocus. Ye de de de, ye de de de, bum bump buh,,, aah, aaahh, aaaHHH, AAAAHHHH
I really like how in your original video for the rosewood top Les Paul Custom you put callouts on screen for the songs you were playing and had a pop up picture of the amp/cab you were playing the guitar through. I forgot you did that until watching this video. I really appreciate your playing in your videos as I think it is relatable to many of us viewers. I get the best idea of how a guitar might sound in my hands, at my house, from your vids of anyone I watch on RUclips. I always appreciate honesty and transparency in demos and would love if you started doing those things again. Love you vids as always!
This exact Craigslist add showed up in the San Francisco one too this last Sunday
Same in Chicago
Xmas seems to be a good FakeTime: Darrell Brown with a fake Suhr, and now this... Someone ugly hiding behind Santa's beard... ?
Saw this on the San Diego Craigslist. Red flag for me was when I pulled up the map, the pin on their location was in the ocean!
I just went local last night to buy a mint alpine white 82 SG with the original chainsaw case. I’m lucky I haven’t been murdered with all the late night Craigslist deals I’ve made
Facebook has these kind of scams every year.
Hocus Pocus!!! My extreme good luck to have seen Focus and Marillion perform this together last year in Holland. Amazing song.
This same guys is rampant on facebook classifieds as well so beware.
4:44 I've seen that kind of ad a while back. I reported it for breaking ebay listing rules but I had no clue these were hacked accounts! Now I'm really glad I reported it.
Sadly scamming is getting more and more daily. Thanks in part to computers.
The stuff dreams are made of. :) Oh well!
I'll go back to playing my Mom's 1970 SG Deluxe.
:l
I bought an ‘84 les Paul custom in ebony for $500 in 2001 but I guess those days are gone
THOSE ARE THE WRONG TUNERS! You can even seen the impression of the individual Deluxe tuner bodies which would have had GOLD TULIP or STEP KEY HEADS! How did you not notice that?!
Very glad this video wasn't taken down for the Green Day references near the end.
I don't know what my lone Gibson guitar (a 2009 Les Paul Goldtop) was made from. Perhaps when the pandemic is over, I will try getting it appraised.
I bought a Fender american standard stratocaster for about $250 here in peru, the guy selling it was cleanning his apartment lol
A guy once bought a 6 string stef (steph?) Carpenter signature ESP Custom at a pawnshop for $300..
It’s also listed in Little Rock/Memphis Arkansas craigslist as
“Super 1974 Gibson Les Paul Electric Guitar - $500.” Same exact pictures.
Thank you very much for this heads up man.
I have sold guitars on Craig List before and have had someone try to scam me with the line. "I live too far away but can you meet me half way", the reason I know it's a scam because every guitar I sold, they would use the same exact line, but a different voice on the phone. "I am buying for my husband, but I live to far away, can I meet you half way?" I don't go to anyone, you come to me, so I have home field advantage. That's the oldest trick in the book, lure you into unfamiliar territory and than meet the person, while someone comes up behind you and jacks you with a sock full of pennies and takes your guitar. I was in the military, so I know all the scams, especially on Pay Day outside the main gate. NEVER MEET ANYONE IN UNFAMILIAR TERRITORY, even if you take a buddy, they still have the advantage of surprise to ambush you.
"If it seems too good to be true, it probably is" - Richard Carlson...
"There's a sucker born every minute" - attributed to P.T. Barnum...
@Trogly's I actually got the scammer to contact me off his Houston, TX ad. Told me a nice sob story that he was selling for his sister and she was having a hard time. I told him I would pay cash. He said that was great. I told him I would pay cash after I validated the guitar by in-depth inspection. Asked me to send cash Western Union first. Told him inspection first and I would have cash. Asked me where to meet. I gave him an address and never heard back. I gave him a local sheriff's department address. Don't know if he ever figured that out or just quit when he could not have the money first.
$5,000 maybe but $500 was scam all day long.
This sometimes happens in the classic car market, it hasn’t happened recently but it was happening as recent as June, it’s always a classic ford such as an escort or cortina, cars that are quite valuable but eg. A 1972 Ford Escort MK1 RS2000 for £5000 and only has one picture, but these are a £40,000 car.
Our Craigslist here in Norfolk, VA has several ES-335 scams right now.
@Harry. B. Renner. jr. that's a long rant with a lot of assumption. How do you know i didn't report it? Stop being a whiny beta.
Don’t be tricked by Christmas Hocus Pocus. Great outro
i would never buy a guitar unless i picked it up
If people are not sure, ask a collector or serious player, they do know!!!! Sad there are scammers, but with anything there are fakes
I'd love to still be able to work, as I'd be able to actually afford one, and would love it dearly! I have tried to sell items on Craigslist twice, and both times I was inundated by scammers, and I'm glad now to still own the guitars! Thanks for another great episode Austin!
Keith
Saw it listed today in Fort Wayne, IN Craigslist for $500 and knew immediately it was a scam!
What's up Kenny, how you been brother?
While the rosewood axe is delightful, and the scams are very frightful, but it's much to late to say no, the money I wired is a go.
Hey! What about the vocal part of hocus pocus? Maybe you don't have the right pills.. 😂
I would rock that guitar. I have always liked finishes that show the wood grain.
Saw one of these listed in my search a couple days ago lol. The tiny pictures made me laugh.
I saw that ad. Just to amuse myself I responded to the scammer. I did get a reply. They were 'selling it for their sister' and needed my email to send to her.
This ad was on my local NorCal craigslist this morning. Went back to look at it 10 mins later because I was debating between deal or scam and it had disappeared. They almost had me!!
Craig's list always runs the like new kubota tractor with all attachments for $1500 people used to go nuts .
Yeah, I see this one all the time. I'd love a few minutes alone with some of these scammers.
In 1974 I BOUGHT Anew Gibson L6S at 60% off list price $379.00 they also had 6 other mod. of Gibson all marked $350.00 ea.
The people running this scam deserve to have tomatoes thrown at them in the village square for all to see.
Yeah, i was looking at a Tele on Craigslist, that seemed like an awesome deal, until I did a little reasearch on the model and found it was not offered in that color, had the wrong tuners and the wrong neckplate- a scam. The guy also had variuos Gibsons that did not match up to what they supposed to be. CL and Ebay are buyer beware- If you don't know your guitars, stay away.
The photos look too professional for the seller not to know the true value.
(Which he probably says in the video)
I dream of a day when I can walk into a pawn shop and find a magic Gibson LP for 500 bucks. It used to happen apparently.
the pawn shops in my area are asking almost msrp for guitars
I thought you were going to start yodelling at the end...
would've loved to see that ! or the Quagmire vocal scat.. Always loved this song
Someone named Detective Smith should contact this guy and offer to pick it up. Merry Christmas.
On the 11th day of scammiss trogly found for me some hacker trying to fool us with a small photo of a real Brazilian rosewood topped 1970s Gibson LP!
I put fresh basil on my pizza...🍕🍕🍕
Here is some advice for those who want to roll the dice and buy a guitar off of Craigslist. I bought one guitar off of CL and what I did was to call a reputable guitar store near the seller (no, not Guitar Center) and have the seller bring the instrument in there for an evaluation from the stores luthier. I then talked to the luthier and he laid out the condition and authenticity of the instrument. The guitar was verified legit so I sent the money to the music store, they paid the seller, then the store boxed and shipped the instrument to me. The fee for the inspection, transfer of funds, and shipping was $300 but well worth it on a high end instrument. Of course it is always way better to see and inspect the instrument in person, but you now have a second option if you need it.
What a lovely looking and sounding guitar! Brazilian rosewood so rare these days...
Love the sound of the model you were playing
I have a guitar listed on Craigslist. I got over 10 texts trying to scam me with voice codes, email addresses, and 3rd party buyers. The trick is to not check the box to show you number but to put it in the description as numbers and words. Like 33zero-.....
I've seen one Brazilian Rosewood Custom. In 1997 it was at a guitar shop in Manassas or Manassas Park Virginia. It was tagged $5000. It was somewhere between Heavily Gigged and Beat to Death but I still wanted it. They would not come down on the price. Listening to Trogly I'm glad I passed. I did buy gear from that shop occasionally.
I like your "scamming" segments. Please do more. Anyone who presses the thumbs down on this video must be a scammer!
Out of curiosity I jumped on Craig’s list Fresno and the guitar is there right now!
Only last week in the U.K. I came across a fabulous J200 a Martin and a Les Paul on Craig list all advertised by the same seller claiming emptying attic for family and wanting quick sale. In short I didn’t even bother trying to set up a meet in a public place since anyone with an ounce of sense in London could of taken them to any of the dealers on Denmark st and walked out of their with at least five grand as opposed to the £1500 for the three? Clearly a scam and the old adage if it’s too good to be true, then it is.
I bought what was supposed to be a Taylor acoustic off of ebay. The seller mailed an empty USPS envelope with tracking information to a different address in my zip code instead of shipping my guitar. Luckily I live in a small township and was able to track down the envelope. I took pictures of the envelope, got a notarized statement from my mail carries that she did not deliver a guitar to my address and verification from USPS that the "guitar" (envelope) was DELIVERED TO A DIFFERENT ADDRESS.
Even with all the proof I sent them ebay still found in favor of the scammer and refused to give me a refund. I argued with ebay for 2 weeks before finally giving up and going to Paypal.
Paypal refunded my money within five minutes of me emailing them pictures of all the evidence.
Ebay knows that scammers rip people off on ebay and they do not care. They aren't losing the money so they don't care.
That also looks like professional photo of a new guitar
Just bought a Guild D50 nt 1978 for 200.00 bucks it's mint too. Young kid sold it for a new video game unit.
My first eBay account got hacked. I had zero items listed one minute then I had 15,000 items listed the next. Yes, you get an email for each one. Then the phone rang. It was eBay calling to inform me something wasn't kosher. It took hours to delete all those emails. Closed the account, and had to start all over.
The Craigslist map shows the area in which I grew up at :43 and by the way.. Les Paul himself grew up there... that is very close to Waukesha WI.
I knew this guitar looked familiar! The Brazilian rose wood lp was the first ever video I saw from you
Thanks Trogy! For not only showing the best, but...
i would'nt dream of buying an old norlin without checking with you or skeeter whittaker on the norlin era les paul facebook page..... you guys forgot more than i ever knew and the only reason i know my 76 custom is the real deal is i bought it in 76 and still have the reciept.... a buddy of mine bought a chinese fake and it was crazy how "decent" it was, did'nt fool me but from 30 feet away it looked like the real deal..... bet its even worse with old strats and tele's
It should be noted 500 bucks is the max amount you can wire through western union and most money orders. That is the biggest red flag, offer them 700 bucks and they will insist on 500.
I looked on Craigslist after seeing this and found the exact same thing 🤣
The thing is the guitar with parts etc.. is probably still a $500 guitar. It just not the Les Paul it was claiming to be.
I'd like to add the following observation : this guy really likes Gibsons
If he has a daily dose of gutar info then I will happily overdose on this XD
It’s on Pittsburgh Craigslist. If he would be asking for $1500, I would have made an attempt to snag it..
sometimes you do get the bear. I got my 1963 Gibson ES 330 TDC for $50. Including the case. Of course that was in 1968
I’d love to see you document an Explorer with a les Paul neck
Had a guy locally trying to scam with a few "custom shop" guitars he had for sale recently. Using pictures on a Craigslist listing for guitars he didn't actually have. I showed up to his run-down trailer to find that the guitars he was advertising didn't exist and he had several fakes he was trying to pass as real - including what he claimed was a Gibson Custom Shop '61 SG in alpine white. I got out as quick as I could but later that night, at work at a local guitar shop, a customer came in with a guitar for sale. Turns out it was the fake '61 SG and I had to break the news to the guy that I had already seen the guitar that day and it was a clear fake...he got screwed out of $900 cash in a parking lot. The moral - if it looks too good to be true it probably is!
Yeah there was something like this awhile back when i bought an Ibanez RG 6002 off of Reverb. The image used was used over on another sale from another seller. On reverb and on Facebook marketplace.
I saw this last night in Chicago’s CL
Best reason to buy an Epiphone, nobody bothers faking them. Er... I probably shouldn't have said that. I'm wrong, aren't I?
I definitely looked at it twice on my local Craigslist...
I'm only a minute in but this looks kind of familiar... In 2017 someone posted MY guitar to the local Craigslist for $500 (its worth much more.) It's a fairly unique guitar so local musicians recognized it quickly and contacted me personally. In my case I figure it was probably an angry peer or ex-companion yanking my chain. This isn't necessarily related, but the Craigslist ad in this video reminded me of my own Craigslist scam snafu.
I came across this same scam one time except it was a truck. I found a deal, talked to the seller, and then they said to send money and they would ship the truck. Ship the truck? Lol.
Hocus Pocus by Focus? Really impressed by your expanding lick library. I know some of the guys at Harmonix (Rockband and Guitar Hero developers) and you are exactly what they wanted to happen when they made those games.
Nice playing Hocus Pocus
See? This is why I buy them in person and not online. I want to play it before I purchase
I have the 1974 Elektra Jarconda Les Paul Custom Copy...looks similar to this....awesome instrument!
It gets tiresome LP after LP after LP....ENOUGH ALREADY.
That demo sounded amazing!when you kicked the overdrive on i got that fuzzy warm feeling..nice!
Trogly love your channel, and not sure if you can control how long the youtube ads play on a single Trogly video, but now it's having to sit thru 4-6 full length ads....used to be able to hit skip ad on the second ad.....getting painful.
On Craigslist Galveston, TX
dang!
$500 USD? My 2011 Studio cost $800+ - a fair price, no real deal, but not ripped off either. Plays like butter 😍. Sigh. Even after 3 strokes I've not lost enough brain cells to do anything but laugh at that listing. Not that I wouldn't LOVE to have it, but I know better. You should too.
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Rock or not?
Not an ECL/ Norlin era Les Paul at that price before Leo's essentially had them retool.
I guess from a pure collectors perspective they make as much sense as any rare guitar and they play and sound fine but I have seen very few if any pre Leo's Les Paul's where the top met the binding correctly.
The absence of recurve is aesthetically appalling and is a reminder of how ECL and Norlin compromised the brand.
Fred Gretsch famously advised Ted McCarty that if Gibson was going to try to compete with Fender in the solid electric guitar market that they should "build it like a real guitar".
Ted wisely heeded the advice and in doing so the Les Paul was truly distinguished from any other solid body electric guitar available in 1952.
The two features that exemplified this commitment the most were setting the neck and recurving the top.
When Les Paul production resumed in 1968 the recurve was pretty much gone supposedly due to tooling having not been maintained.
I have also heard that it was possibly a management decision based on the fact that not building with recurve was cheaper.
If tools and skills are not perfectly honed there is the possibility of chipping out the edge on what would be one of the final operations.
The problem was corrected when Leo Malliaris commissioned one thousand instruments built essentially as the first '59 reissue.
Apparently the negotiation was contentious at one point because of concerns over controlling cost of production and recurve was one of the main sticking points.
Those instruments were built in 1981 and 1982.
My '81 Deluxe, (purchased from Leo incidentally), exhibits good recurve so apparently some significant change took place in the wake of the Leo's run.
Leo by the way was the guy who along with Glen Quan brought us the Bad Ass Bass Bridge essentially changing how bass bridges are built.
I would be VERY curious to examine the 20th anniversary model that was mentioned. It is certain to be a prettier guitar.
Great content as always.
I never fail to learn something new here.
Cheers!
That's one fine sounding Les Paul !