Magic Mountain team member here, I think a good spot y'all didn't cover is Apocalypse/old Deja Vu's plot. It's a pretty big sized area and I see plenty of activity with people and equipment in there despite Apocalypse being SBNO 99% of the time and them using Deja Vu's plot just for a Fright Fest maze (though this could just be them gearing up for Fright Fest). I would really be sad to see Viper go since it's one of my favorites but I do understand since it is almost a walk on even on our busiest days. The theater is a good spot too and would be very happy to see a terrain coaster go there, especially since that theater and the old log flume station haven't been touched in years and aren't used for anything (I've checked). The only thing I can say personally though is that there is rumors of a giga happening floating around team members that a giga is coming although it could just be stemming from the social media posts. Overall, I really hope this happens because Magic Mountain desperately needs a ride with good floater airtime as almost every single airtime focused coaster at the park is intense ejector and that gets very tiring after a few rides.
I don’t see Viper leaving for another 10 years, especially when the park has tons of room in a ton of places. Theater makes sense, but most likely spot would be where the sling shot is and a the old Dejavu plot and going by/over the rapids.
I don’t see why they would chose any manufacturer but B&M. Guaranteed reliability and capacity. Who cares if someone else can build it for $5M cheaper if it’s not going to serve as many guests and it could possibly by a maintenance nightmare
SFMM is my homepark and I don't think we are actually getting a giga, but I am hopeful that of it was true we'd get Intamin. Although the Skytower is likely the giga they are referring to. They told the West Coast ACERs event that it would reopen. As for Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift, I do believe it will be the best coaster in California. Also I'm so excited Six Flags is working with Intamin again💙💙
@demonoid7469 Oh man I hope not. It would be cool to reopen the tower but disappointing to not get a new coaster. Any other year I'd say you are 100% spot on but the substantial increase in CapEx in combination with the social media hints is a combo hard to ignore. I believe some big attractions are coming to some Six Flags parks in the next couple of years.
@@JD-sg8yz With the current markers and work being done around the Golden Bear Theater...you never know, that is a MASSIVE plot of land...may be getting something there AND the Tower...that way we get it back and nobody could complain about it!
Idk if viper would be going. Magic mountain just got 20 coasters. They wouldn't remove one just to get back to 20. Maybe behind viper? Also they have been taking good care of viper. They have been trying to keep it as long as possible.
Before MM gets a Giga, GrAdv needs it more currently. After MM gets a massive full park clean-up and restoration then sure, but a for now, GrAdv needs some Intamin and RMC love.
Thank you! We are constantly shafted when it comes to coaster additions. We deserve a giga before Magic Mountain. I really hope Six Flags didn’t give our giga to Magic Mountain and gave us just a measly super boomerang
But what would a giga give Great Adventure that it already doesn't have in its lineup? It already has 2 full circuit coasters over 200 feet tall. It already has a floater airtime, and no inversion machine. Magic mountain doesn't have either of those met yet. Honestly, magic mountain doesn't have a single good floater airtime focused, with no inversions coaster at all; while Nitro already does that perfectly for Great Adventure.
@Junglegoat37 which in my opinion would still beat out those two gigas... Unless there was an Intamin giga at one of those parks. Then that would give some nice comp between Hollywood Drift and Intamin giga for best ride in CA
They aren’t ready to part with Viper yet. And they still use it. Unlike the theater which has not been used in a substantial way since the 1990’s. 😱And considering construction workers have been taking measurements in the area, this would be more likely. There are also some paint markers in the area. Granted some of the work could be for the solar project, but some of the workers were asked and said it was for a new ride. So, I’d say something is replacing the unused theater.
Honestly the old Showcase Theater; where I saw The Sylvers perform back in 1977 should be where they should build an Intamin launch or Mack Log Flume ride with a new lake to pay homage to one of the best flume rides in the world the Log Jammer that they torn down for Full Throttle. The Giga should be placed at the back of the mountain near Apocalypse going up the hill towards Viper and X and back.
Our park desperately needs a ride to interact with the park entrance and a entrance redo as a whole it’s crazy to think that with as much land they own that they never interacted with any of the outside pathways
It would be interesting to see how a SFMM Giga would work. Maybe it would be kind of like Hades 360 or The Voyage where there’s a few parts that’s underground? Or maybe it could be one of those coasters that, whilst having a largish footprint, is situated high above the ground to avoid endangering people taking footpaths, like Millennium at Fantasy Island in the UK? Another option could be an Intamin multi-launch but depending on how compact Six Flags would want to go I kinda have my doubts
yes Magic Mountian needs a Giga, can they play off the mountain and pull a kings island sure..350-400ft.. should they take out Viper, no.. Can a Giga invert, yes.. Six Flags needs to one up Cedar Fair, and having a new intamin giga inverting would be amazing.
Come on Magic Mountain. Give us the giga for real. And while I know everyone is thinking B&M or Intamin, I have another idea. Since they have a history of some very unusual additions, they should build the first T-rex. Yes I know they just built Wonder Woman. But I don't think the general public would think it was redundant anymore than having a similar track type between various B&Ms is redundant. Having two across seating and a >300 foot height would make it very different for most people. And can you imagine the hype that would come with the first T-rex? Six Flags has a strong long term relationship with RMC. And think of X2, TC, Tatsu and the first ever T-rex being their top 4. That would really draw some attention.
If you think a B&M Giga can fit at Knott's, then you can fit one ANYWHERE at SFMM. But... I think SFMM needs a refresh. Plant some more trees in the back of the park and build a new entrance pushing into the parking lot near Scream and Twisted Colussus. The current entrance plaza would be a great location for a Giga! Keep the Golden Bear Theater and bring back a new version of the Galaxy! Knott's isn't known for its coasters (as SFMM is). I predict a family RMC coaster is more likely in their future.
Annual pass holder here. Love your content, especially the Magic Mountain videos. Seeing that SF is partnership with Warner Brothers, could you create a giga layout for Magic Mountain with a Godzilla ☢️ 🔥 🦖 theme? If Six Flags choose not to continue the partnership WB they can rename the giga to Kaiju 300 or something. “Keep riding coasters!” 👍
Was watching another volg about the Giga, and he was talking about the theater being taken out. He noticed their were orange paint markers on the ground so who knows.
Great video, I think Six Flags Magic Mountain might get a giga before Knotts however I could be wrong, if anything I wonder if they have any plans to replace Viper anytime soon that ride was closed when I went in 2018 I think Six Flags Magic Mountain could be a good candidate for a dive coaster, great video once again!!!
This is the rumor I've heard, which I don't entirely buy but it does sound intriguing and definitely plausible: -The coaster is rumored to be a RMC T-Rex model. Supposedly Six Flags has signed a deal for multiple installations of the model once RMC is ready to deliver the product (the SFGAdv Giga project would most likely be the same model). -The ride will replace Ninja, with the station in the same location as Ninja's current station but likely a new building. Apparently that ride is reaching the end of its viable service life due to parts availability and and likely would be forced into retirement by the end of the decade anyway. Jet Stream will remain as it was just recently refurbished. -The lift will head toward Roaring Rapids, then the ride will turn and drop down to the water level, passing under Jet Stream's lift. It will be an Orion style giga...lift under 300 ft. tall, but drop in excess of 300 ft. -After the drop, the coaster will hop over to the front side of the mountain and thread through Full Throttle's loop, then race out along the hillside. It will turn around at the far end (probably where the Golden Bear Theater is), cross back over the mountain, then return to the station. -Total track length will be shorter than Goliath despite the additional height in order to keep costs down. It will also ride very differently than any other giga as it will simply be about large elements rather than high speeds and quick transitions. -The tentative target is 2026 for the park's 55th anniversary, but that could shift backward (it likely won't move forward). The latest is 2028, as the park wants to use the ride to attract visitors for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics.
If they do get a GIGA, I don't think it will be short and gimmicky. That was the way they did things the past 10 to 15 years when they sort of had to due to lower CapEx limits. The fact that Six Flags has said the CapEx for 2025 will be around 230M - 250M is a major factor in my thinking. This is a HUGE number for Six Flags. Over the last 10 years they have averaged 120M in CapEx and I don't think they have spent over 144M in any given year in that same time frame. When the CEO was asked whether this increase in CapEx was more ride related or for more overall improvements he responded by implying it's mainly for rides saying "...so it's a combination of maintenance, but it's not the biggest part. The biggest part is the thrill ride. We're having a lot of thrill rides expenditures. " I'd be surprised if one of their biggest parks doesn't get a large chunk of this extra CapEx spending. It wouldn't be shocking for Six Flags to spend 15M - 20M on Magic Mountain in a year with normal CapEx spending and 2025 will be almost double. The fact they are spending 420M to 470M over a period they would normally spend up to 250M says to me that they are fully capable of spending 40M to 50M on a unique project. I think something big is coming to this park in 2025. Just my 2 cents..
This is KILLIN me! I don't like to be given hope, all for it to be squandered away. I am cautiously optimistic, but I have serious doubts Magic Mountain will get a giga. I say, Magic Mountain has at most, a 10% chance at getting a giga. This way, if it does happen, it will be a very happy surprise!
Knott's Berry Farm will NEVER get a GIGA! They have 0 room for it; one of the high ranking managers there told me once that they ONLY way to even fit in a Hyper coaster would be to take out Ghost Town. They will NEVER do that! One of them even told me quote: "Enjoy the internet." What he meant by that was that the rumors are all false 100%! Knott's Berry Farm will not likely build another major coaster this decade!
I wish SFMM would give Chance a crack at Viper. I don't know how they deliver Phantom's Revenge just to never get called again. As far as a Giga, it's Six Flags, they're cheap so I say Togo. 🤪
Magic is my home park. It would be great to get a giga. But im thinking, giga means any coaster thats 300 to 400 feet so instead of a giga we think could it be a 300 foot dive coaster maybe? Just something to think about, But in all honesty im skeptical at magic getting a giga. It would be great but idk things change at that company all the time so its hard to say. I would be sad if they got ride of viper though but i know its days are coming to an end sadly. But i would more want to see an axis coaster replace viper and see a retheme of that entire area near x2. Although before magic even thinks about getting another coaster they need to clean up that park and get their act together. This year has been really bad at the park with a lot of coasters being down and the samurai summit area looks like an abandoned mess.
sfmm with definity not be getting a giga, they just got a new coaster not too long ago and they already have the most coasters in the worst sf seems to be putting more focus to the other smaller parks too and six flags is not the kind of company to just buy a giga and what they are referring too is most likley the sky tower reopening, saying mm will get a giga is like saying great escape will get a axis coaster
They better not touch Viper under any circumstances. It needs to be preserved its an elite coaster. They refurbished it in 2018 and still has another decade till it needs another refurbishment which I definitely see happening. I could see it getting the work that Loch Ness Monster is in 10 years
RMC Giga is coming, I said this before but why not Six Flags, they seem to be the testing ground for RMC with both Wonder Woman and New Texas giant being prototypes. Six Flags likes prototypes because they can get a discount on them. We know RMC has a good relationship with Six Flags
When your friend said B&M was building hypers and Gigas more like 10 years ago and that they haven’t built one recently I was really confused cause B&M literally built a Giga and Hyper in 2020 (Orion and Candy)…
I completely agree that SFMM needs an airtime focused hyper (or giga), in order for it to be considered the top coaster lineup in America. I'm not saying that it isn't already a stacked lineup, but as you've mentioned, it should come down to quality over quantity in that category. At this point, they should just scrap Goliath and place this ride in that plot of land. Although old and janky, Viper is still enjoyable and adds some depth to SFMM's lineup. Once it gets the axe, that massive plot could make way for two smaller coasters, to even further round out the park's collection.
I’m currently building a model roller coaster of Arie Force One out of CDX blocks, it should be really cool! Do you think you could feature it on your channel?
I think the second SF got an idea that Universal was going to add a new coaster, that's when they paused the giga for SFGADV and decided to put it at SFMM. As SF confirmed on their recent earnings call, SFGADV addition was a last minute add on so that tells me what they're getting wasn't their plan even a year or 2 ago. I don't see them replacing Viper as that just had work done to it so I think this is going where that theater was. I know the other plot of land was where Deja Vu used to be but that's right by the new neighborhoods (noise complaints) they just added plus there isn't a ton of room there so I think a smaller scale giga where that theater was is a safe bet plus you'll be able to see it easily from the 5 freeway. I don't think it'll be a dive (even a giga dive) as Knotts has a dive already (they market Hangtime as one and most GP won't know the difference) plus Sea World has Emperor so they really need something different to draw in people and IMO nothing is better for MM than a giga.
If that is the case, it will take years until magic mountain announces their giga, since SFMM is a terrain-based park, so the layout will need to be adjusted accordingly, especially for earthquake protocols
I feel like Superman is in an odd spot to put a strata so maybe put a giga in that area since it’s an appealing area and make a strata with a decent layout somewhere close by? Also b and m hypers and gig as suck very badly imo they all feel forceless both airtime and everything else, makes me fall asleep on the rides especially with how smooth they are, fury however is amazing and need more of those.
Yeah I doubt it. One they don’t need it at all. I think that all the Magic Mountain Fanboys are so spoiled that they think they need a Giga after they got 2 RMCs. Two no way Six Flags buys a Giga. Even though they’re working with Intamin, a Giga is still stupid expensive. It would cost them upwards of $20-$25 million assuming it’s Intamin. Which is around the same cost as Kingda Ka and El Toro which I believe to have costed $20 million and $28 million respectively. And I don’t think they’d test out a Giga at their flagship park. It just wouldn’t really make sense. But then again Magic Mountain did get X2 which was a prototype so idk.
The only plot in Magic Mountain that's actually ideal for a giga is Goliath's. Six Flags is probably still kicking themselves for getting stuck with two sub-par Giovanolas. If Magic Mountain is getting a 300+ foot Intamin in the near-term, it's probably replacing Escape from Krypton. A multi-launch strata coaster with airtime pops would be great for the park. And I'm still rooting for a massive B&M Dive to replace Viper.
The Viper area only works if you're trying to make a giga version of Expedition GeForce. It's more ideal for a twister layout, and if there's an out-and-back section interacting with the entrance area, it'd likely be the finale. The turnaround has to be squeezed into the tram dropoff, right in front of the iconic entry gate, and it's not going to have the symmetry of Fury's treble clef at Carowinds' entrance. Bringing up the Golden Bear Theatre was a rambling waste of time in this video. It makes zero sense to build a giga entrance next to Bugs Bunny World. If it's developed for a coaster, I could see Full Throttle relocated to Over Georgia and the combined plot used for a family-thrill B&M wing with 1 or 2 inversions.
If the Giga rumors for Great Adventure didn’t happen I’m definitely sure the outcome of the coaster for 2024 would be different we still have a few days until the announcement though
Of course, and who can do it better than? it will be done to out high Ceder Point's New Revision of Top Thrill etc. by at least 50-100 feet or more? Now Magic Mountain will raise up a black tracked shinny monster to be able to see, 'Downtown LA,' on a sunny clear day! This monster will be raised so high until a people sitting in the last seat, 'must be warned,' for their own good because one's fear won't be thought of at all! They'll have had to be warned and whatever happens after that cannot be a Magic Mountains worry at all!
They need to replace or modernize Ninja with new trains at least. Gold rusher needs the same before they touch viper. If they want a giga they should replace Goliath. I dont think the company is around so maintenance is likely a pain. Golden bear theatre is a big money maker if they still do gospel fest as well as cheerleader competition's. Dont get me started on their water rides...best flume ride was removed.
Also with Six Flags new capital investment announcements they very well may be making huge investment in a single coaster. Goliath also wasnt a discount lol, it cost $30M in early 2000s.
It's never going to happen; I just went a few hours ago. Most of the rides were closed, or running only one train, the parking lot is trash, a hot dog with waffle fries and water costs $23, they are broke! Magic Mountain has 0 budget for it!
@@theoseeley9661 coasters can also be canceled or sent to another park. If this park cared about any of that, they would have stopped adding coasters long ago
My home park is Six Flags Great Adventure and if Magic Mountain got our giga project I’d be so unbelievably mad with Six Flags. I wouldn’t put it past them to do it
@@Johnnyiswhere and St. Louis hasn’t got a major coaster in almost 20 years other than the relocated boomerang that was originally built in the 80’s and there are a few other parks in the chain that have gotten the same amount of neglect
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Magic Mountain team member here, I think a good spot y'all didn't cover is Apocalypse/old Deja Vu's plot. It's a pretty big sized area and I see plenty of activity with people and equipment in there despite Apocalypse being SBNO 99% of the time and them using Deja Vu's plot just for a Fright Fest maze (though this could just be them gearing up for Fright Fest). I would really be sad to see Viper go since it's one of my favorites but I do understand since it is almost a walk on even on our busiest days. The theater is a good spot too and would be very happy to see a terrain coaster go there, especially since that theater and the old log flume station haven't been touched in years and aren't used for anything (I've checked). The only thing I can say personally though is that there is rumors of a giga happening floating around team members that a giga is coming although it could just be stemming from the social media posts. Overall, I really hope this happens because Magic Mountain desperately needs a ride with good floater airtime as almost every single airtime focused coaster at the park is intense ejector and that gets very tiring after a few rides.
It might be the tower because it considered as a giga tower
@@FearInCombatit isn’t lol
@@FearInCombat I don't think it is going to be a giga tower because of californias earthquake regulations
I really thought about the plot of land behind batman riddlers and apocalypse as a good spot for and out back layout
I don’t see Viper leaving for another 10 years, especially when the park has tons of room in a ton of places. Theater makes sense, but most likely spot would be where the sling shot is and a the old Dejavu plot and going by/over the rapids.
I don’t see why they would chose any manufacturer but B&M. Guaranteed reliability and capacity.
Who cares if someone else can build it for $5M cheaper if it’s not going to serve as many guests and it could possibly by a maintenance nightmare
I agree reliability Is something that is needed
. And price
to be quite honest i just want magic mountain to actually consistently run the coasters they already have lol...
SFMM is my homepark and I don't think we are actually getting a giga, but I am hopeful that of it was true we'd get Intamin. Although the Skytower is likely the giga they are referring to. They told the West Coast ACERs event that it would reopen.
As for Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift, I do believe it will be the best coaster in California. Also I'm so excited Six Flags is working with Intamin again💙💙
It’s a great time
I keep telling people the "giga" IS in fact the Sky Tower reopening...but nobody believes me lol
@demonoid7469 Oh man I hope not. It would be cool to reopen the tower but disappointing to not get a new coaster. Any other year I'd say you are 100% spot on but the substantial increase in CapEx in combination with the social media hints is a combo hard to ignore. I believe some big attractions are coming to some Six Flags parks in the next couple of years.
I will be a needle is a haystack we get a giga but I have huge doubts the the fast and furious ride will top x2 or tatsu
@@JD-sg8yz With the current markers and work being done around the Golden Bear Theater...you never know, that is a MASSIVE plot of land...may be getting something there AND the Tower...that way we get it back and nobody could complain about it!
It is surprising that SFMM has been all this time without a giga. They set the height record when they opened Superman.
Love the Knott's Giga concept! 😉
An RMC Giga T-Rex should be a fun ride idea!
Same thing I said!!
Idk if viper would be going. Magic mountain just got 20 coasters. They wouldn't remove one just to get back to 20. Maybe behind viper? Also they have been taking good care of viper. They have been trying to keep it as long as possible.
Before MM gets a Giga, GrAdv needs it more currently. After MM gets a massive full park clean-up and restoration then sure, but a for now, GrAdv needs some Intamin and RMC love.
Thank you! We are constantly shafted when it comes to coaster additions. We deserve a giga before Magic Mountain. I really hope Six Flags didn’t give our giga to Magic Mountain and gave us just a measly super boomerang
But what would a giga give Great Adventure that it already doesn't have in its lineup?
It already has 2 full circuit coasters over 200 feet tall. It already has a floater airtime, and no inversion machine. Magic mountain doesn't have either of those met yet.
Honestly, magic mountain doesn't have a single good floater airtime focused, with no inversions coaster at all; while Nitro already does that perfectly for Great Adventure.
Wonder if the hypothetical SFMM giga will only be 4000 something feet long
What if Knotts and six flags both got a giga at the same time. That would honestly be crazy
Epic
That at the same time as fast and furious: Hollywood drift would be insane
@Junglegoat37 which in my opinion would still beat out those two gigas...
Unless there was an Intamin giga at one of those parks. Then that would give some nice comp between Hollywood Drift and Intamin giga for best ride in CA
@@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters I think you like intamin… just a hunch tho
@Junglegoat37 maybe I do...maybe I don't🤣
They aren’t ready to part with Viper yet. And they still use it. Unlike the theater which has not been used in a substantial way since the 1990’s. 😱And considering construction workers have been taking measurements in the area, this would be more likely. There are also some paint markers in the area. Granted some of the work could be for the solar project, but some of the workers were asked and said it was for a new ride. So, I’d say something is replacing the unused theater.
Honestly the old Showcase Theater; where I saw The Sylvers perform back in 1977 should be where they should build an Intamin launch or Mack Log Flume ride with a new lake to pay homage to one of the best flume rides in the world the Log Jammer that they torn down for Full Throttle. The Giga should be placed at the back of the mountain near Apocalypse going up the hill towards Viper and X and back.
Our park desperately needs a ride to interact with the park entrance and a entrance redo as a whole it’s crazy to think that with as much land they own that they never interacted with any of the outside pathways
I agree 💯
YES 🙌 YES 🙌!! I ❤love to see VIPER & the bear theater to make room for a Giga rollercoaster 🎢🎢🎢??? PLEASE 🙏
It would be interesting to see how a SFMM Giga would work. Maybe it would be kind of like Hades 360 or The Voyage where there’s a few parts that’s underground? Or maybe it could be one of those coasters that, whilst having a largish footprint, is situated high above the ground to avoid endangering people taking footpaths, like Millennium at Fantasy Island in the UK? Another option could be an Intamin multi-launch but depending on how compact Six Flags would want to go I kinda have my doubts
Give me a skyrush giga at magic mountain
yes Magic Mountian needs a Giga, can they play off the mountain and pull a kings island sure..350-400ft.. should they take out Viper, no.. Can a Giga invert, yes.. Six Flags needs to one up Cedar Fair, and having a new intamin giga inverting would be amazing.
Great Adventure all over again
Or did the project get moved there? hmm
@@TP_Recommendations I hope not 👎🏾
Yep and hype for nothing...
Technically, Intamin's newest giga coaster is Red Force. I wouldn't blame anyone that didn't count that, though.
Come on Magic Mountain. Give us the giga for real. And while I know everyone is thinking B&M or Intamin, I have another idea. Since they have a history of some very unusual additions, they should build the first T-rex. Yes I know they just built Wonder Woman. But I don't think the general public would think it was redundant anymore than having a similar track type between various B&Ms is redundant. Having two across seating and a >300 foot height would make it very different for most people.
And can you imagine the hype that would come with the first T-rex? Six Flags has a strong long term relationship with RMC. And think of X2, TC, Tatsu and the first ever T-rex being their top 4. That would really draw some attention.
If it’s a giga, I could totally see them doing with an elevator lift to save space!
Would be an interesting idea but what manufacturers would offer it?
@@magicalhikari5859 intamin
@DavidVitranoI mean… Mack giga coaster with a 180 degree twisted vertical drop?
wow that’ll be awesome
@@magicalhikari5859 Sounds like Project Exodus on steroids
Intamin is actively building Falcons Flight tho so that somewhat counts as another Giga. The progress photos recently are insane.
A Giga version of Sky Rush sounds like a good possibility
Maybe a wooden giga coaster from Gravity Group or Great Coasters International would be an unrealistic prediction for Six Flags Magic Mountain.
California deserves a giga. Or a B&M hyper even.
SFMM have a Giovanola Hyper but that’s about it
No we need an Intamin Hyper
If you think a B&M Giga can fit at Knott's, then you can fit one ANYWHERE at SFMM.
But... I think SFMM needs a refresh. Plant some more trees in the back of the park and build a new entrance pushing into the parking lot near Scream and Twisted Colussus. The current entrance plaza would be a great location for a Giga! Keep the Golden Bear Theater and bring back a new version of the Galaxy!
Knott's isn't known for its coasters (as SFMM is). I predict a family RMC coaster is more likely in their future.
It's probably an Intanim Giga Slash with just a 50 meter (164 foot) vertical rotating lift tower.
I've seen the golden bear theater been used when I was there and I don't think a giga could fit there but I'd like to be proven wrong!
The tower is considered as a giga tower so they might be doing try to get that approved and up to safety standards
Annual pass holder here. Love your content, especially the Magic Mountain videos. Seeing that SF is partnership with Warner Brothers, could you create a giga layout for Magic Mountain with a Godzilla ☢️ 🔥 🦖 theme? If Six Flags choose not to continue the partnership WB they can rename the giga to Kaiju 300 or something. “Keep riding coasters!” 👍
Was watching another volg about the Giga, and he was talking about the theater being taken out. He noticed their were orange paint markers on the ground so who knows.
Great video, I think Six Flags Magic Mountain might get a giga before Knotts however I could be wrong, if anything I wonder if they have any plans to replace Viper anytime soon that ride was closed when I went in 2018 I think Six Flags Magic Mountain could be a good candidate for a dive coaster, great video once again!!!
As someone who has a B&M Giga at their home park, I’d say it’s a good and reliable option for magic mountain
The problem is the lack of maintenance at SFMM, they always have closed rides or lots of down time
@@SkateClipsAndTips SFMM is my home park and this comment is sadly true.
@@ayyo-jasonthere is hope though. The park president responsible for the ride downtime and poor maintenance, don McCoy, has recently retired.
This is the rumor I've heard, which I don't entirely buy but it does sound intriguing and definitely plausible:
-The coaster is rumored to be a RMC T-Rex model. Supposedly Six Flags has signed a deal for multiple installations of the model once RMC is ready to deliver the product (the SFGAdv Giga project would most likely be the same model).
-The ride will replace Ninja, with the station in the same location as Ninja's current station but likely a new building. Apparently that ride is reaching the end of its viable service life due to parts availability and and likely would be forced into retirement by the end of the decade anyway. Jet Stream will remain as it was just recently refurbished.
-The lift will head toward Roaring Rapids, then the ride will turn and drop down to the water level, passing under Jet Stream's lift. It will be an Orion style giga...lift under 300 ft. tall, but drop in excess of 300 ft.
-After the drop, the coaster will hop over to the front side of the mountain and thread through Full Throttle's loop, then race out along the hillside. It will turn around at the far end (probably where the Golden Bear Theater is), cross back over the mountain, then return to the station.
-Total track length will be shorter than Goliath despite the additional height in order to keep costs down. It will also ride very differently than any other giga as it will simply be about large elements rather than high speeds and quick transitions.
-The tentative target is 2026 for the park's 55th anniversary, but that could shift backward (it likely won't move forward). The latest is 2028, as the park wants to use the ride to attract visitors for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics.
Who told you this rumor?
If they do get a GIGA, I don't think it will be short and gimmicky. That was the way they did things the past 10 to 15 years when they sort of had to due to lower CapEx limits. The fact that Six Flags has said the CapEx for 2025 will be around 230M - 250M is a major factor in my thinking. This is a HUGE number for Six Flags. Over the last 10 years they have averaged 120M in CapEx and I don't think they have spent over 144M in any given year in that same time frame.
When the CEO was asked whether this increase in CapEx was more ride related or for more overall improvements he responded by implying it's mainly for rides saying "...so it's a combination of maintenance, but it's not the biggest part. The biggest part is the thrill ride. We're having a lot of thrill rides expenditures.
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I'd be surprised if one of their biggest parks doesn't get a large chunk of this extra CapEx spending. It wouldn't be shocking for Six Flags to spend 15M - 20M on Magic Mountain in a year with normal CapEx spending and 2025 will be almost double. The fact they are spending 420M to 470M over a period they would normally spend up to 250M says to me that they are fully capable of spending 40M to 50M on a unique project. I think something big is coming to this park in 2025. Just my 2 cents..
This is KILLIN me! I don't like to be given hope, all for it to be squandered away. I am cautiously optimistic, but I have serious doubts Magic Mountain will get a giga.
I say, Magic Mountain has at most, a 10% chance at getting a giga. This way, if it does happen, it will be a very happy surprise!
A 300 foot tall Larson super loop!
Viper ain't going no where. Gotta keep arrow alive. Remove the unused theater. Never seen it used in the 20 years I've been going there
Knott's Berry Farm will NEVER get a GIGA! They have 0 room for it; one of the high ranking managers there told me once that they ONLY way to even fit in a Hyper coaster would be to take out Ghost Town. They will NEVER do that! One of them even told me quote: "Enjoy the internet." What he meant by that was that the rumors are all false 100%! Knott's Berry Farm will not likely build another major coaster this decade!
I wish SFMM would give Chance a crack at Viper. I don't know how they deliver Phantom's Revenge just to never get called again. As far as a Giga, it's Six Flags, they're cheap so I say Togo. 🤪
YES!! Phantom’s Revenge turned out great! I don’t know why we haven’t seen more like that. One of my favorite rides.
Magic is my home park. It would be great to get a giga. But im thinking, giga means any coaster thats 300 to 400 feet so instead of a giga we think could it be a 300 foot dive coaster maybe? Just something to think about, But in all honesty im skeptical at magic getting a giga. It would be great but idk things change at that company all the time so its hard to say. I would be sad if they got ride of viper though but i know its days are coming to an end sadly. But i would more want to see an axis coaster replace viper and see a retheme of that entire area near x2. Although before magic even thinks about getting another coaster they need to clean up that park and get their act together. This year has been really bad at the park with a lot of coasters being down and the samurai summit area looks like an abandoned mess.
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I think the way to go is to replace lesser attractions at the moment
Seeing how they already can’t manage the number of coasters they have
Whats your thoughts on a park in the US answering falcons flight??.I can't see American parks letting Saudi Arabia own that record very long
What about next to apocalypse and behind roaring rapids ??
I think Dorney Park might be getting Giga Coaster if the Iron Menace is well received and good return investment,
A T. rex checks all the boxes 🤔
What are your thoughts on Project Horizon at Alton Towers and their RMC tease?
I thought this rumor was also kinda tied to the removal of ninja
Id love a giga but id settle for a nice hyper and they give the rest of full throttles layout
sfmm with definity not be getting a giga, they just got a new coaster not too long ago and they already have the most coasters in the worst sf seems to be putting more focus to the other smaller parks too and six flags is not the kind of company to just buy a giga and what they are referring too is most likley the sky tower reopening, saying mm will get a giga is like saying great escape will get a axis coaster
anything is possible when disneyland and universal are your competition in the area
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They better not touch Viper under any circumstances. It needs to be preserved its an elite coaster. They refurbished it in 2018 and still has another decade till it needs another refurbishment which I definitely see happening. I could see it getting the work that Loch Ness Monster is in 10 years
Gonna laugh if Great Adventure put fake markers. The land clearing in the back is just too convenient
RMC Giga is coming, I said this before but why not Six Flags, they seem to be the testing ground for RMC with both Wonder Woman and New Texas giant being prototypes.
Six Flags likes prototypes because they can get a discount on them. We know RMC has a good relationship with Six Flags
When your friend said B&M was building hypers and Gigas more like 10 years ago and that they haven’t built one recently I was really confused cause B&M literally built a Giga and Hyper in 2020 (Orion and Candy)…
I don’t think Viper is going any where. Didn’t it just get some updates. Plus if they take a coaster down that affects their coaster count
I completely agree that SFMM needs an airtime focused hyper (or giga), in order for it to be considered the top coaster lineup in America. I'm not saying that it isn't already a stacked lineup, but as you've mentioned, it should come down to quality over quantity in that category. At this point, they should just scrap Goliath and place this ride in that plot of land. Although old and janky, Viper is still enjoyable and adds some depth to SFMM's lineup. Once it gets the axe, that massive plot could make way for two smaller coasters, to even further round out the park's collection.
Love the idea
If SFMM gets a giga they need to remove Goliath, it's not really a good hyper, more positive g's rather than -g's
Relocate it to St. Louis Goliath was my 2nd favorite coaster when I lived in CA
I think they should remove that trash grabage lame viper or scream
@@rishdawg9618 I would say Viper over scream
Rocky Mountain T-Rex Giga!!
Remember that post that rmc sent and it said GIGA COMING SOON could that be it?
I wish!!!
While i love Viper, a Giga on that hill would look insanely huge!
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I think the second SF got an idea that Universal was going to add a new coaster, that's when they paused the giga for SFGADV and decided to put it at SFMM. As SF confirmed on their recent earnings call, SFGADV addition was a last minute add on so that tells me what they're getting wasn't their plan even a year or 2 ago. I don't see them replacing Viper as that just had work done to it so I think this is going where that theater was. I know the other plot of land was where Deja Vu used to be but that's right by the new neighborhoods (noise complaints) they just added plus there isn't a ton of room there so I think a smaller scale giga where that theater was is a safe bet plus you'll be able to see it easily from the 5 freeway.
I don't think it'll be a dive (even a giga dive) as Knotts has a dive already (they market Hangtime as one and most GP won't know the difference) plus Sea World has Emperor so they really need something different to draw in people and IMO nothing is better for MM than a giga.
If that is the case, it will take years until magic mountain announces their giga, since SFMM is a terrain-based park, so the layout will need to be adjusted accordingly, especially for earthquake protocols
I feel like Superman is in an odd spot to put a strata so maybe put a giga in that area since it’s an appealing area and make a strata with a decent layout somewhere close by? Also b and m hypers and gig as suck very badly imo they all feel forceless both airtime and everything else, makes me fall asleep on the rides especially with how smooth they are, fury however is amazing and need more of those.
Yeah I doubt it. One they don’t need it at all. I think that all the Magic Mountain Fanboys are so spoiled that they think they need a Giga after they got 2 RMCs. Two no way Six Flags buys a Giga. Even though they’re working with Intamin, a Giga is still stupid expensive. It would cost them upwards of $20-$25 million assuming it’s Intamin. Which is around the same cost as Kingda Ka and El Toro which I believe to have costed $20 million and $28 million respectively. And I don’t think they’d test out a Giga at their flagship park. It just wouldn’t really make sense. But then again Magic Mountain did get X2 which was a prototype so idk.
The only plot in Magic Mountain that's actually ideal for a giga is Goliath's. Six Flags is probably still kicking themselves for getting stuck with two sub-par Giovanolas. If Magic Mountain is getting a 300+ foot Intamin in the near-term, it's probably replacing Escape from Krypton. A multi-launch strata coaster with airtime pops would be great for the park. And I'm still rooting for a massive B&M Dive to replace Viper.
The Viper area only works if you're trying to make a giga version of Expedition GeForce. It's more ideal for a twister layout, and if there's an out-and-back section interacting with the entrance area, it'd likely be the finale. The turnaround has to be squeezed into the tram dropoff, right in front of the iconic entry gate, and it's not going to have the symmetry of Fury's treble clef at Carowinds' entrance. Bringing up the Golden Bear Theatre was a rambling waste of time in this video. It makes zero sense to build a giga entrance next to Bugs Bunny World. If it's developed for a coaster, I could see Full Throttle relocated to Over Georgia and the combined plot used for a family-thrill B&M wing with 1 or 2 inversions.
Honestly does this park even need another coaster? Half the time majority of the coasters be down
SFMM teasing giga cause the old observation tower most likely
If the Giga rumors for Great Adventure didn’t happen I’m definitely sure the outcome of the coaster for 2024 would be different we still have a few days until the announcement though
Viper is not going anywhere. Not yet anyway.
I would hate to see Viper go..
Of course, and who can do it better than? it will be done to out high Ceder Point's New Revision of Top Thrill etc. by at least 50-100 feet or more? Now Magic Mountain will raise up a black tracked shinny monster to be able to see, 'Downtown LA,' on a sunny clear day! This monster will be raised so high until a people sitting in the last seat, 'must be warned,' for their own good because one's fear won't be thought of at all! They'll have had to be warned and whatever happens after that cannot be a Magic Mountains worry at all!
They need to replace or modernize Ninja with new trains at least. Gold rusher needs the same before they touch viper. If they want a giga they should replace Goliath. I dont think the company is around so maintenance is likely a pain. Golden bear theatre is a big money maker if they still do gospel fest as well as cheerleader competition's. Dont get me started on their water rides...best flume ride was removed.
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Also with Six Flags new capital investment announcements they very well may be making huge investment in a single coaster. Goliath also wasnt a discount lol, it cost $30M in early 2000s.
B&M, Intamin, Mack... can't believe you're ignoring the possibility of a Morgan giga
Knott's and Seaworld all ready have dive coasters and Knott's Berry Farm had no plans of building a giga.
...that we know of
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Six flags is a struggle chain, they cant afford a giga
Wouldn't Red Force be Intamin's most recent giga? 🤔🤔
True but lift hill I was thinking 😂
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It’s a launched giga. By giga he means one using a traditional lift
It's never going to happen; I just went a few hours ago. Most of the rides were closed, or running only one train, the parking lot is trash, a hot dog with waffle fries and water costs $23, they are broke! Magic Mountain has 0 budget for it!
That's NEVER stopped them before, otherwise Wonder Woman would not exist!
@@Johnnyiswhere
Wonder Woman was planned years ago; plans for coasters are made years in advance.
@@theoseeley9661 coasters can also be canceled or sent to another park. If this park cared about any of that, they would have stopped adding coasters long ago
Orion is 3rd in the park for me. Diamondback is 👑
B&M o Intamin?
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I don’t think it’s a Giga Coaster. I think it’s a giga splash coaster.
My home park is Six Flags Great Adventure and if Magic Mountain got our giga project I’d be so unbelievably mad with Six Flags. I wouldn’t put it past them to do it
I think no one really knows anything.
You and the damn six flags giga coaster it's not gonna happen. It's way out of their price range.
I wouldn’t even make the video is the park hasn’t teased it for the last 2 months :)
Screw magic mountain they have gotten so may coasters recently six flags needs to invest in other parks
It's about being fair and do the right thing u f ing losers
Aren't they?
@@Johnnyiswhere not really only rumors right now are for the parks that always get something major almost every year
@mrchuckles087 Well Magic Mountain got nothing in 2023 or 2024.
@@Johnnyiswhere and St. Louis hasn’t got a major coaster in almost 20 years other than the relocated boomerang that was originally built in the 80’s and there are a few other parks in the chain that have gotten the same amount of neglect
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