Nah I guess he would have done it just for wearing the tshirt. It is quite obvious what the guy's problem is - too many trans folx and too many gays. Maybe disabled people too. BTW is it just me but he obviously has an English accent yet he pronounces beta in the American fashion as bay-ta rather than the British fashion which is bee-ta. Probably shows how much he has been influenced by the right wing US commentators (I call them commentators mainly because of the lack of a better term). I am a proper old Doctor Who fan - I can remember snatches of Planet of the Spiders - and sure some of the modern era stories have been better than others, but there is still some gold in them thar hills. On a side note I think your fan-wankery point about the 80s was probably undercut a bit by the fact that a couple of the specials also relied pretty heavily on fan-wankery.
This guy and people like him are what has kept me from launching my own RUclips channels for so long. Some days I'm just not in the mood and some fuckwit like Mr.MelonBalls will cross me and it'll make the press by late afternoon. My jobs mentor was Harlan Ellison. I wasn't taught to take prisoners. I've got a ton of WHO content since the time I joined in the late 70s that I'd love to share but I just do not want to be bothered those people. I've got a lot of other work I've done and am doing outside of WHO and I don't want to suddenly find myself spending time dealing with cretins that should be spent on the multiple series I'm working on. If somebody could give me a hand, I'd appreciate it.
@@Maddoktor2 I don't like to do that. I'd like to engage with the audience. I've had to deal with this stuff before. I had an incident where someone went as far as cyberstalking my then-12 year-old daughter when I was with IGN. So I know how to handle it, I'm just tired. Seriously - Open Call: Anybody wants to help me with my WHO channel (not competition to @MrTARDIS in any way; totally different kind of channel), inquire within.
One Piece is literally the wokest option as far as mainstream anime go. There are woker options, like series literally about (and sometimes by) LGBTQA+ individuals or other minority groups in Japan. But, when it comes to mainstream manga made by a cishet man, this is some of the wokest. It's woker than you realize, Mr TARDIS. There are sadly many anime in recent years that Chuds would have enjoyed. GATE is blatant nationalist, pro-military propaganda and Redo of Healer is just full on Rape Fantasty. But, One Piece? That was "woke" since day one. I want to give you some further talking points. 1) One Piece has Fishmen. Their entire existence is an ever-evolving discussion of race, oppression, and slavery. Any story arc about them focuses on the fact they are enslaved and how they as a people have responded to this bigotry. It stumbles sometimes, but overall is an anti-racist message. 2) There is an entire faction of the revolutionary army made up of gay, lesbian, bi, pan, nonbinary, and trans individuals who rebelled against the government because of their oppression. Their leader ate the Devil Fruit that gives hormone control and gives out magic HRT to their followers. Their right hand person is gender fluid and we never learn their gender assigned at birth. This happened in 2011! And it cames years before Yamato, the trans masculine character from Wano you mentioned, so his inclusion wasn't even a change in representation. It had been doing it for years. 3) Sorry, amend that: Bon Klei from Baroque Works was an even earlier example from 2005 of a cannonically nonbinary, pansexual character in the series. Bon Klei was a villian but portrayed as the most sympathetic and likely to turn good...which they did during Impel Down where they made a heroic sacrifice to let Luffy escape. Cannoically, the only member of the organization to be allowed to use both male and female designations. Which makes sense since their leader, Crocodile, has hinted to be trans masculine since the magic HRT guy, Ivankov, hinted at having a secret about Crocodile that they'd never tell about a favor they did for him once. The live action series even accidentally hinted at this when Luffy's actor accidentally almost admited the female presenting audience member of Gol. D. Rodger's execution was Crocodile. 4) Fuck, I could go back to race and discuss that for hours too. You can actually map the history of how mainstream media depicts racial strife through the evolving depiction of Fishmen because of how long the series has run. Fishman Island's arc was rough, but I really liked the struggle between Otohime's dream of changing the world through intergration and shared humanity versus Fish Tigher wanting to believe in that dream but knowing the institution of slavery exists and freeing slaves violently despite this hurting Otohime's goals because he couldn't ignore the suffering now for an imagined future. Or how Fischer Tiger was a broken man as a former slave since he was a hero for freeing all slaves regardless of race, including Boa Hancock who'd become an all of Luffy, but secrelty wrestling with a deep seeded hatred of mankind for what they did to him, once he actively supressed to help humans who were enslaved and to avoid spreading hate to the children. The worst part of Fishman Island is the best parts were flashbacks. 5) The World Government is a standin for every government and every empire. The series potrayed them as evil. It doesn't portray all government as evil, but any government that doesn't listen to its people as evil. The world government promotes slavery, profits off the suffering of the poor, uses the military to supress free thought, and many other evils. On a smaller scale, the Drum Island arc has one of the heinous things that the villian did that was seen as reprehensible and evil was that he privated medicine. Like it's so on the nose. Fuck, I can go on, but it's hilarious to me that he chose the one anime that would absolutely tick him off. Often the struggles and progressive messages in anime don't phase Americans and Europeans as they get censored out or they feature elements that aren't progressive for our current social issues. And this guy picked one of mainstream anime that made that a big factor of its worldbuilding. You can't make this up.
I will say that the trans representation pre-Yamato (or, pre-Kiku, rather) was, um... less than flattering, though. I mean it helps that Luffy clearly does not give a single damn about whether they "conform to gender norms" or whatever and just treats Bon-chan, Iva and the Kamabakka folks exactly the same as he would any other person, but, uh, the way Oda draws them is... heavily seeped in stereotypes and felt like it was playing them for jokes. But yeah. One Piece? *Extremely* not even slightly aligned with "conservative values" like the main character *literally* has overthrown multiple tyrannical monarchs and allowed populist leaders to come and take said monarchs' place. (Though tbf in Dressrosa he kicked out the corrupt king so that the old, much nicer king could take over again... But in Drum Kingdom he literally kicked out the "rightful" king who was then replaced with a democratically elected leader loved by the people.)
One Piece actually reminds me a bit of Doctor Who. One guy and his constantly evolving crew traveling to weird distant lands and battling injustice along the way.
I do not think the show is "woke". It is not dominated by girl bosses and the male heroes have positive masculine traits like ambition in different ways.
I'm glad you responded. He suddenly started getting recommended to me when the specials started, and even though I know it's pretty pointless, I ended up arguing in the comments. People seemed upset that I referred to Mr rattler as an outrage merchant. I'm tired of arguing with those people now anyway.
Same thing happened to me! I traded comments with the guy. You are right, arguing is pointless. His content is extremely slanted toward the dramatic right mentality.
@@loftus4453 Yes. Arguing with them only reinforces their own insecurities and also ends up feeding the RUclips algorithm actually helping these morons get more views. The best thing to do is just ignore, and report their videos.
Is it just me or does it seem obvious that people like MelonRattler are people that just... don't want to grow up? Cause lately with people like nerdrotic and others it just seems more and more obvious that these people just want to stay children for the rest of their lives. Not wanting to learn anything new or accept new things....they just want that childlike mentality of being unaware that the shows they like are trying to say something while also be, in the case of doctor who, a wacky sci-fy show about a alien in a time machine/space ship who can also change their forms if hurt or their body gives out due to old age.
People like him really need to just admit that they have some sort of self-infantilization kink and act it out in a safe consenting space instead of making it everyone else's problem by making fucking RUclips channels.
It seems that they're even more angry bigots that always need something to rage about and want to promote and spread their political extremism. The fact that most of them profit from that rage only encourages them to stay toxic and keep lying.
As someone who loves anime and manga in sick of these reactionaries using it as a way to say look how unwoke and apolitical it is when literally all the best ones are heavily political. One piece in itself is so left leaning political that I genuinely can’t understand what the fuck they’re talking about. The main characters dad is literally Che Guevara
If reactionaries can still enjoy entertainment that's "woke" then doesn't that mean "wokeness" isn't the deciding factor whenever they decide to hate on something, that perhaps the entertainment in question is just bad.
I came back to the fandom with the 60th and youtube keeps pushing me outright homophobic and transphobic people melting over lgbt and black people existing, I'm glad we have our own side of "breadtube" here, cheers pal
Same. I just want to watch some interesting analyses and I get people like Bowlestrek on my recommended. If there wasn’t an option to block specific channels I’d probably die and regenerate out of sheer frustration.
On that point silence in the Library had a bigger drop in viewing figures compared to the previous week (unicorn and the wasp) compare that to 8.41 for unicorn to 6.27 for silence to star beast, wild blue and even throw In the giggle and you still don't get that drop in viewers. And that's arguably "peak" Doctor Who.
I knew it! This proves that Blink is woke drivel! The statues are meant to be a metaphor for how capitalism pushes people into the past instead of letting them live into the future! The numbers don’t lie after all!
@@anthonyfisher-7090with that example there was a 2 week gap between unicorn & silence in the library cause of the Eurovision Song Contest. While the 2 week break happened in series 3 as well & that didn’t have a significant drop in viewers I think the fact silence in the library was marketed as being scarier put people off. Same thing happened between family of blood & blink
@BH-98 my point still stands that over that period more viewers turned off then during the Specials however because its 2008 no one says "it's shit" "viewers turn off woke doctor who" do they? Its the same point Mr tardis made about series 1 and 5 in the video probably just worded badly
@@Faction.ParadoxAll the great foundational classics of sci-fi are distinctly left wing, which is why the alt-right has waged a long campaign of social media colonization to destroy and discredit the genre and media in general in the public consciousness. Everything they touch falls to rot and decay.
It's alt-right infiltration. Just because they claim they liked the series before doesn't mean you should take them at their word. They never cared about Doctor Who, or Star Trek for that matter, they care about their politics being forced down our throats, which is ironic because that's what they accuse Doctor Who of doing.
Ad hominem attacks are the sign of someone who's either lost the argument or never had one to begin with. Out of all the points he's made, ONLY the repeat of the impossible girl was for me, his ONLY fair point.
The most funny thing about these people is that, if they’d actually met the Doctor, the Doctor would despise them and be nothing like what they expected or want them to be. They’re lucky they can’t actually meet the Doctor.
Shit,I'd be like I'm ready to go!!let's go Doctor!!there's nothing here for me,give or take some family, and a handful of friends,and I'd make use of my life trying to fight evil,and save some ppl and a planet,or galaxy/universe... Btw Doc, b4 we depart,can we PLZ PLZ PLZ IM BEGGING YOU,pick up Martha/Freema to go along for tha ride??!!😂🤣🤦♂️✌️🍻
@guyincognito6582 As I'm sure you're aware that a fictional character cannot be held hostage because you can't actually kidnap them. 😉 That's not an argument. Grow up.
@guyincognito6582The fictional character know as “The Doctor” was created by people you consider to be “woke” today just for existing, appearing on screen or working - a Canadian immigrant: Sydney Newman, and a jewish woman: Verity Lambert. The character’s debut was directed by a gay Asian: Waris Hussein 😉 grow up.
These reactionaries are so predictable, it's hilarious! And "This show will be cancelled in three years" Series 14 is in the can, Series 15 is currently filming and Series 16 AND 17 are already being planned taking us up to at LEAST 2027 and not just that but SPIN OFFS are also in the works with the first major one beginning production in the next few months! Doctor Who is becoming bigger than ever and clearly it isn't going anywhere anytime soon so clearly isn't being cancelled or even primed for the axe!
What if it got cancelled because all TV shows were cancelled as the human race suddenly had to pour all of our resources into saving our planet? Technically he would be correct in that circumstance, but he'd also have to cope with the fact that we all will eventually, that climate change is an undeniable reality we need to do something about.
We also breezed right over the fact that he called Ncuti a gay slur. Like, “spinning around like a f^cking f@iry” Fairy is a common term used as a slur for gay men. It’s lost fashion a little in our time, but was far more popular years ago. There is no fucking way he meant the literal mythological fairy there.
That dancing like a Fairy argument reminds me of someone describing the scene as a "Gay Rave". And like, while that sounds like a fun time as a Bi Person, imagine telling on yourself THAT MUCH that you haven't been to a party in your life 😭
On twitter, the guy claims to have triggered you, because of course he can't admit defeat. As we all know "He's the only one who can be correct! And if you disagree, you're just mad or a shill or whatever!"
4:57 Are you actually not sure what he’s on about? Because those people by now tend to complain about the same things over and over again that they don’t even need dog-whistles anymore one to know what they mean. A diverse cast and crew, especially non-white and non-cishet people, that’s what they complain about the most.
@Dillongrey I deeply apologise. I misread the room when I was watching the stream. I remember sending a message letting MrTardis know about the video early in the stream. Must have misremembered.
I was there in the 80s - I remember them and British Sci Fi aesthetically those days was literally a joke. The DW people had a funny accedote about running into a Blake 7 production in the same gravel pit. It was loved in spite of the production values not because of them, well unless you were Michael Grade who probably hated it for that reason amongst many. Melon Farmer is talking out of his arse.
Just a reminder: if you're not part of the company making a show, you have no reason to care about viewing figures. Viewing figures don't mean anything about the quality of a show; some terrible shows get great viewing figures and some great shoes get terrible viewing figures. Whenever people mention viewing figures it's because they don't want to make their actual argument which is often just 'woke is bad'.
@@paulheap1982 Yes, it definitely is. There's responding to someone and then there's devoting way too much of your time to moaning about someone else saying words that hurt your fragile feelings. Just ignore him and move on with your sad life. Do you follow this clown on X? He's constantly bantering with MelonRattler and Will of the Fans. I mean... MrTardis grinds the f*** out of my gears, but I'm not about to waste an hour of my short time on this Earth bitching about it.
There's about a quarter to a third of the British and American population who are totally averse to facts or logic - which is why recent polls showed that around 30% of Brits still believe that Brexit was a good idea, and a third of Americans still believe that the 2020 election was "stolen". There's a huge overlap between these folks and those who are anti-vaxxers, who deny climate change, hate "wokeness" etc. IMHO, bozos like these shouldn't be allowed on social media, or anywhere near a voting booth.
Sorry to tell you, they're real. I've seen them. I live in a County in Colorado that in 2016 voted for... well, I won't sully the comment section. But that doesn't mean their brains aren't infested with parasites or something.
The problem when people try to use figures to say a show is going downhill 1. The way episodes are viewed has changed and 2. What are the factors when they use numbers is it overnight, is it worldwide, etc?
If some of these guys were around since the beginning they’d be going like: “ RIP DOCTOR WHO 1963-1966. THEY GOT RID OF THE ONE TALENT LEFT, WILLIAM HARTNELL, AND REPLACED HIM WITH A TALENTLESS CLOWN PATRICK TROUGHTON WHO CAN ONLY DO STUPID COMEDY WAVING HIS MAGIC SCREWDRIVER. ALL DESTROYING YEARS OF LORE WITH THE “RENEWAL” RETCON, SPITTING ON HARTNELL’S LEGACY. SHAMEFUL, IT SHOULD BE CANCELED WITHIN THE HOUR.”
@@idle_speculationor god forbid, imagine if they were around during the transition from Troughton to Pertwee RIP DOCTOR WHO!!!! THEY GOT RID OF THE TIME TRAVEL, IT’S NOW SO CHEAP THEY CAN’T EVEN BUILD A TARDIS SET!!!! IT’S JUST A MAN RIDING AROUND IN HIS SHITTY LITTLE CAR NOW, SHAMEFUL!!!
I love your cheerful and intelligent delivery. It's like a really fun master class in how to argue a point. With great Doctor Who content of course. I learn a lot. My husband and I recently started watching Doctor Who. I absolutely love it. I didn't have a TV growing up and still don't; I buy the DVDs and watch on the computer. We've watched all of the 9th and 10th Doctors so far. The complete 11th Doctor series, Stories 1-3 from Series 1 of the 1st Doctor, and complete Series 1 of Baker are on order. If anyone has another DVD to recommend, let me know. I hardly ever watch movies or shows, but this is the most imaginative, wonderful, and wacky thing ever. Definitely hooked. I'm also fascinated by its long history, constant evolution, and effect on so many people. And glad there's your channel here to explain stuff I need to know and defend the show.
As a Godzilla fan, it's frustrating to no end to see my favourite IP (next to Dr Who) being dragged into the culture war BS, especially how it managed to remain untainted for the longest time, other than maybe one idiot who claimed Vs. Kong was woke.
@@charlesherm511 Not to mention the claims that the Monsterverse has 'jumped the shark' and is 'turning into Transformers' because of.....a single shot of him running fast.
You want expressly political anime? Give Gundam a shot. A lot of anti-war and anti-facism, perpetuated by governments and sometimes corportations (Witch from Mercury went hard on that), often with teenagers caught in the middle of it as the soldiers. Also Newtype space magic, lots of Newtype space magic.
To be honest, the fact that Destiny of the Daleks is the most watched Dalek story and Remembrance of the Daleks is one of the lowest just goes to show viewing figures don't really relate to quality anyway.
What is sad is that I’ve always held that the measure of the individual can be determined by knowing their enemies. Apparently I think too much of you, Mr. TARDIS. 🤣🤣🤣
When Mellonhead mentions people are going all over the place for entertainment he fails to realize that also impacts what the statistics being offered. I offer myself as an example. I mean I purchase Doctor Who physically when I can to keep up with the series because there aren't any real other choices for viewing online other than BBC America (in the day) and now Disney+. If I could afford Crunchyroll and Disney+ together yes I would be watching it. Also if I had a more effective way of viewing Doctor Who during the Whittaker Era I would have been watching her as well. I liked her. So I am not among the stats because I am not finding a decent way to watch it online. I am also sure I am not alone.
There are a massive more amount of content out there to watch so stands to reason viewership is more spread out. The worst viewed episode of series 11 beat 27 Capaldi episodes. So why compare the specials to his era?
How many fucking times do I have to say Viewing Figures dose not determine quality. I'm glad I click don't recommend RUclips channel on Not My Doctor videos.
No, but they "dose" (??) determine success and popularity and arguing that these figures mean the show isn't successful is just utterly bewildering. It's a huge hit, whether you like it or not. You people are fighting the wrong battle with defective weapons.
I agree with what you're saying, but I also like the quality of recent Doctor Who. It's a welcome change after the Chibnall era was so poorly written IMO
One thing I've noticed about these alt-right RUclipsrs is that they're often too scared to show their face and instead they use stills of an abstract cartoon character (in this case the drinking melon slice) or even actual cartoon characters (hell I've seen one with screencaps of Kronk before) as a sort of stand-in to the presence of them as a person. I've seen "anti-woke" reviewers doing this a hell of a lot. Genuinely it's too much of a pattern to be a coincidence. Is it part of their playbook to deliver their dangerous takes through a vessel of supposed lightheartedness/levity?
I'm glad you mentioned about the views drop between series opener vs the rest of the series. It is so normal to lose viewers after the first episode, but because these people are determined to claim that no-one likes DW anymore because it's "woke" (what does that even mean?!) they focus on the drop between the episodes featuring trans people. They're not fooling anyone, their transphobia is showing.
@@APlatypus why say that so condescendingly? Yeah I know it's usually the result of right wing extremist propaganda being buzzed into their heads on a daily basis
"Being the most viewed drama with a high share still is BAD somehow." There's no pleasing with these people. But what I don't get the most: He claims he loved the Tennant years back then, but how did he not catch all the "woke" massages when he watched those? Did he actually ever rewatch them or is this just the result of a very selective memory? Wondering this about a lot of these Outrage Guys, really.
I hate that people are going to anime now because it isn't woke but if they saw cowboy bebop, for example, they would cry and whinge since there are non-binary characters like Ed. I know one piece might have trans or non-binary I'm not too sure but that show would piss them off and all reactionaries or ignore it.
Yeah I mean some animes since the 90s have had gay couples such as Sailor Moon on both the heros and Villians side. Plus the Starlights in the first anime that literally changed genders.
@@BradLad56So you’ve never seen Sailor Moon, where two of the main characters are a lesbian couple? saying that, you’ve probably only seen the dubbed version where they were “cousins”.
@@BradLad56 I never mentioned anything to do with non-binary 😂 there’s a joke in anime fandom that’s referred to as “kissing cousins” - the lesbian couple in Sailor Moon: Neptune and Uranus. Wikipedia: “Sailor Uranus fights alongside her partner and lover Sailor Neptune”.
My opinion? He wanted you to cover this to boost his channel. His opinions and facts are so unfounded it’s an absolute joke. I congratulated him for stimulating comments with his ridiculously over the top criticisms as they would generate lots of views. Seems I was correct.
The One Piece bit was wild to see live, reactionaries accidentally enjoying "woke" things will never, ever cease to be funny. MelonRattler is gonna be so pissed when he realises Great response as usual, love to see it. You're very good at hitting back at others' points (not that they're much of a challenge to debunk though lol) One thing I wanna say is I can never understand the complaints about bad CGI in the show. I've found all the effects since the specials to be great, the corridor in WBY is really impressive and never looked bad to me, the goblin ship is stunning and all the other effects are great, probably because a lot of it's actually done practically! Even if they aren't top-quality effects, it's better than a lot of the stuff from the early 2000s and sure as hell better than most of the stuff from the 1970s! Knowing these specials were made before the budget upping makes me even more impressed if anything, and incredibly excited for the effects quality in the full series. If these guys think the effects are bad in this then I can't wait to show them the Vardans from The Invasion of Time, that'll throw them for a loop! Another common MrTARDIS W!
probably because it was an adaptation that was done well? that seems to be the cause for praise in most things, if done well people will like it regardless of what it has. people often cry woke not because of whats in it specificaly, but "how" its done, and a lot of times its not done very well at all. plus with pre-existing franchises a lack of respect tends to make em feel defensive and snippy.
Another battle won against those who poorly try to take you down. On the subject of reactionary’s, do you plan to cover Bowelstrek’s reviews of the rest of the anniversary specials, Church on Ruby Road and the video which I think he’s lost his mind in; his Professor Dickles goat vid which if I recall he complains about black and trans people in Doctor Who, calls you out again and claims you and those on Twitter have cancelled him. It’s so delusional, you can’t help but laugh.
Have you found the video about the snowman comment being a adult(s%*) action that the woke lot are trying to show to kids. Or the videos claiming that the new tardis team want to leave for absolutely no reason(the fact they are calling all this a woke\message mess and that no body wants to watch this tripe can't possibly have any influence.) They are only speaking about doing other projects on the side or not sure what RTD may have planned in the future.
1:25 The main characters in One Piece aren't revolutionaries and their goal isn't to take down the world government but to find the One Piece and become King of the Pirates. It is Luffy's father and brother who are revolutionaries but Luffy himself has admitted he doesn't care about that stuff. The World Government being his enemy is just part of being a pirate and the fact that they tend to hurt his friends, he's not fighting them for some revolutionary reason. And the trans characters in the anime isn't something to take pride in, considering they're used for gags for 99% of their screen time, there's even a gag about one of the characters running away from men in drag.
Doctor Who and Star Trek. Two shows that spent decades promoting liberal, socially progressive politics and values. The fact people complain that these shows have gotten too politically liberal and woke and it's ruined them will never cease to amaze me. What were these people watching for all those years before? Because it clearly wasn't the same stuff the rest of us saw.
Honestly what a discusting individual to use such offensive abelist words in regards to your name on here boils my blood, your honestly one of my favourite doctor who creators, x
It's a shame because there is nothing wrong with criticism. But 'criticism' rooted in 'anything not fascist is bad' is only relevant to people who tie their entire personality and life into their politics. It's like the same with these Christian fundamentalists in America, if something isn't all about their personal religious values then they hate it.
I have had to stop engaging with fandoms now. Star Wars, DW, GoT Harry Potter all went a weird alt right route. It isn’t everyone but a lot of the creators who are the most vocal ruined it. Likewise I used to watch theory videos, which ended up ruining the actual material as it wasn’t as good as the stuff we would come up with , a reflection of the quality the media. I just watch the media now, maybe watch a review or two from a select few. It’s so odd to me as the creators are usually left wing, artsy types. I think because we still have old farts such in the 80s who haven’t retired. I have noticed this with tv presenters we still have old presenters who began 30 years ago presenting everything, let some new faces in the game, like why is Bradley Welsh on every game show now 😂 In particular DW was made by liberal people (liberal in their day)
In fairness, he might have been referencing the netflix show, however these people also hate the witcher cause they have a bigger focus on the female characters
The problem is with people like him is they believe the show should still be get pre-streaming figures when in today’s landscape that’s not going to happen and they site all these made up reasons for it not getting those numbers and call the show dead even though Jodie’s era was technically successful as much as they tried to get us to hate it so there argument doesn’t hold water
Hi, MrTardis! Sorry if this is not the right place to ask, but I was hoping that you - or someone here - could help me. I'm trying to make a list of all the Doctor Who episodes set in Victorian England. On the web I found some examples that didn't seem paritcularly accurate, so I was hoping you could help me be precise with this. Thanks and sorry for bothering you.
@@MrTARDIS Ah, yeah, that is the first thing I did ^^ ... but it seemed to me that the wiki was not exactly complete, so I just wanted to have a second opinion on the list I already have here. Guess I'll double check, going through every story as you suggested. Thanks for your time.
Blogtor Who figured out the average viewing figures for Who and all other shows for the year, and revealed that with an average Live+7 ratings of 7.27 million viewers, Doctor Who was the second most watched drama of the entire year, behind only Happy Valley. Unless I'm mistaken that's the first time in Doctor Who's 60 year history that it was in the two most watched dramas for the entire year. Another point you can make to prove the extremists wrong.
The point is that the 18-34-year-old demographic is the most important demographic for advertisers and marketers because they have the most disposable income. If a show is doing well in that demographic. Fan-wanky shows that don't appeal to the 18-35-year-old demographic are cancellation candidates. Yer man doesn't know jack.
Hi I am not British so I don’t get what he meant by calling you a Treacle,I know treacle is Molasses,and it can mean someone is calling you sweetheart,but this genuinely fucking confused me
So it looks like brainless Mellon is taking on the bet. Something tells me that in three years he’ll backtrack and find an excuses not to pay 100 quibs to the Trans Charity😂😂😂
Don't get me wrong... I can't tell you how pleasant and relaxing it is to watch a video, without needing to wonder when I'll hear someone squealing in self satisfaction for becoming the 9 billionth person to cleverly recite "go woke and go broke"(You know it's true because it rhymes). Because their day was ruined by the _existence_ of minorities, women, LGBTQ+, or heaven forbid someone thats all three, in a film or tv show they may or may not actually watch. It really is just... *nice* to watch content that discusses popular media without any of that nonsense, and I realize there are A LOT of people out there that dedicate their every waking moment to opposing the so-called "woke agenda", but I'm starting to wonder if we're giving them too much attention. Engaging and arguing with them, as if their opinions had any merit. I don't know. I suppose we can't simply ignore that kind of BS since silence can be mistaken as complaisance, but it's not difficult to see that their side is losing. 😅I have to believe there's a better way to finally rid ourselves of these silly backwards ideas, but I'm just not smart enough to figure out what it is.
We think the same about you. Why are you people so easily accepting of things that in the long term degrade and splinter society. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but there are so many different factions of progressives arguing amongst each other simply because most of it is based entirely on group identities. Take TERFs for example. To a conservative, they're incredibly progressive in their overpromotion of women to the point of damaging men and heterosexual relationships. But to a progressive, their fatal flaw is excluding the transcommunity. This is, however, understandable, because if you're an insufferable feminist, you clearly see how men in dresses are invading women's spaces. Most normal women also feel at least somewhat uneasy about that. Have I sketched a good enough picture of how more and more division is created? This doesn't happen because gays and transpeople exist, no, they've been around for a while. The issue is overpromotion, pandering, acceptance of new or alternative definitions without question or critical thinking. By that I mean that gays, lesbians, bisexuals, asexuals, intersex and "binary" transpeople (those who permanently switch from one side of the binary to the other) are completely fine, but LGBTQIA+ as a "community" and propagandamachine with their [random word]-sexuals and [random word]-genders and "genderreassignment" surgery for minors, who don't know the first thing about life are a serious danger. When it comes to race, similar story, there is no issue with a random occasional immigrant who would love to live in your country and integrate into the native culture of said country, but that doesn't happen. There's a huge influx of non-integrating immigrants who don't care where they are as long as they get money, either through jobs or for free. What happens is more crime over time and muddying of the native culture until eventually there's nothing left of it.
I believe with the one piece thing oda never said that character was trans they seem to be a girl with male pronouns, as recently oda did a piece with all female one piece characters and that character was there
I think they should reboot it, as the lore have become so convoluted and messy I feel it detracts from the enjoyment of the show. Also, I hate this show now because they did not bother to make the later seasons available here in Norway.
I unironically love Warriors of the Deep. I love how The Doctor falls into the water for a second and my boy says it's too late he's drowned. I wish we got more on screen with that TARDIS team.
Or most soaps really, even Hollyoaks. These same people also claim Star Trek wasn't anywhere near as political as it was when Star Trek Discovery was released. Now people saying that are definitely coping. Anyone who has seen Deep Space Nine and claims it's 'not as political as Discovery' is just factually incorrect on every level.
@@lloroshastar6347Star Trek TNG literally had cross dressing crewmembers in the background and an episose of Riker trying to save a trans woman from being given sone form of conversion therapy in one episide
@@mrcritical6751 Yeah TNG was also pretty progressive. The least progressive series I'd argue is the Original Series, and that's only because it's so dated, at the time it was one of the most progressive things on TV. TNG even had a line about how revolutionary movements used a violent uprising to overthrow oppressive and colonial governments. Then you had the episode in the last season about a Native American tribe being forcefully relocated. I honestly struggle to think of anything that wasn't progressive in Star Trek throughout it's history. I just can't take these anti-SJW's seriously because they lie so brazenly, or they just admit they can't think critically.
@@lloroshastar6347 I’d say the only one outside of TOS, that fumbled would be Voyager. And that’s only because every moment of progressiveness they had in that show kinda got trumped by the fact they failed at representing native Americans correctly via Chakotay
It's actually more accurate to call Yamato androgynous or gender non-conforming than trans. The cultural and societal norms surrounding gender non-conformity in Japan are very different from what they are in the West, and you should try to avoid viewing LGBT characters in Japanese media through your Western perspective because often it will not align with the perspective of the author. This is likely one of the reasons why Oda has avoided commenting on the subject one way or the other, because he knows that he won't be able to give an answer that won't piss off both pro and anti-LGBT Westerners.
There's this person who keeps showing up in the comments to these videos who says that comparing DW's audiences to other current shows is like bringing a Ferrari to a go kart race. I think if your reasoning as to why current Who is bad and people don't like it includes comparing it to a Ferrari, maybe you should rework your reasoning.
I feel like almost no one can talk about the viewing figures for the most recent episodes of Doctor Who objectively. Everyone seems to be biased in one way or the other, Mr TARDIS included. The only one who even comes close is Council of Geeks.
I for one liked the special effects in the specials. Even the few dodgy ones I could spot. And apart from a couple of moments such as the "let it go" moment, cos I felt it was a biiit to on the nose but that is just me. I loved the specials. Even the song number on the Goblin Ship.
Oh hey, there's a Planet Earth III. Neat. NuWho entered popular consciousness in a way that OldWho hadn't. Made me go back to Unearthly Child and watch it through when I'd only caught an ep or two in its initial run (yaaarggghhh I'm old!) Oh, and I didn't get to see the specials for at least one or two days later. +7 views catch me.
To be fair saying OP is about the Revs is abit misleading imo . Show is still political with the main theme about freedom and equality . Straw hats are against the gov but not directly trying to take them down imo
@@MrTARDIS I get what you mean now, thought you were talking about the rev army being the main focus. My mind goes straight to them when I hear revolution and OP
@@BradLad56 if I break into someone's house and steal something, then someone says "You're a burglar", I can just say "No, I don't call myself a burglar so I'm not one!" No, doesn't work like that. Luffy is a revolutionary. He's literally tearing down the old world order over 1000+ chapters/episodes.
@@BradLad56 I genuinely cannot imagine why this is a hill you're willing to die on. Firstly, are you only a revolutionary when you've FINISHED the job? No, obviously not. Being a revolutionary, by definition, is the act in-and-of-itself of revolution.
@@BradLad56 , I've already explained this. If I rob a house, get caught and someone says "He's a burglar!" would you honestly say "Dude, have you ever heard MrTARDIS say he robbed the house? He's not burglar because he doesn't say he is".
Considering he thinks that so much as wearing a pro-LGBTQ+ badge makes you a pedo (no joke, that's what he said in his latest video), I think there's absolutely no way he'd be willing to donate £100 to a trans youth charity. No shot. Happy to be proven wrong, but I think there's no shot.
Why do you care what some sort of Toxic guy thinks? I watched this video and was really amused by it. It was hysteriocal. I don't agree with a portion of what you say. I find it irritating. But for the most part you have alot of decent insights. You shouldn't care what this kind of Tuber thinks or react to it at all.
If you're going to compare to Series 1-10 you might as well compare the Star Beast viewing figures to Season 4-7, Season 18, or Season 20-26 of classic era.
40:04-40:09 It’s more ridiculous than the time where I had a shitty weebish relative basically claimed My Hero Acidemia was The Boys type of anti-superhero story.
Make sure to stick around to near the end to hear this guy on the brink of tears calling David Tennant a paedophile over a *fake joke tweet*.
What a surprise, David Tennet worries more about the lives and feelings of vulnerable trans youth than an angry melon
Nah I guess he would have done it just for wearing the tshirt.
It is quite obvious what the guy's problem is - too many trans folx and too many gays. Maybe disabled people too.
BTW is it just me but he obviously has an English accent yet he pronounces beta in the American fashion as bay-ta rather than the British fashion which is bee-ta. Probably shows how much he has been influenced by the right wing US commentators (I call them commentators mainly because of the lack of a better term).
I am a proper old Doctor Who fan - I can remember snatches of Planet of the Spiders - and sure some of the modern era stories have been better than others, but there is still some gold in them thar hills.
On a side note I think your fan-wankery point about the 80s was probably undercut a bit by the fact that a couple of the specials also relied pretty heavily on fan-wankery.
This guy and people like him are what has kept me from launching my own RUclips channels for so long. Some days I'm just not in the mood and some fuckwit like Mr.MelonBalls will cross me and it'll make the press by late afternoon.
My jobs mentor was Harlan Ellison. I wasn't taught to take prisoners.
I've got a ton of WHO content since the time I joined in the late 70s that I'd love to share but I just do not want to be bothered those people. I've got a lot of other work I've done and am doing outside of WHO and I don't want to suddenly find myself spending time dealing with cretins that should be spent on the multiple series I'm working on.
If somebody could give me a hand, I'd appreciate it.
@@akakjb The simplest solution is to just disable comments on your Dr. Who videos.
@@Maddoktor2 I don't like to do that. I'd like to engage with the audience.
I've had to deal with this stuff before. I had an incident where someone went as far as cyberstalking my then-12 year-old daughter when I was with IGN. So I know how to handle it, I'm just tired.
Seriously - Open Call: Anybody wants to help me with my WHO channel (not competition to @MrTARDIS in any way; totally different kind of channel), inquire within.
One Piece is literally the wokest option as far as mainstream anime go. There are woker options, like series literally about (and sometimes by) LGBTQA+ individuals or other minority groups in Japan. But, when it comes to mainstream manga made by a cishet man, this is some of the wokest.
It's woker than you realize, Mr TARDIS.
There are sadly many anime in recent years that Chuds would have enjoyed. GATE is blatant nationalist, pro-military propaganda and Redo of Healer is just full on Rape Fantasty.
But, One Piece? That was "woke" since day one.
I want to give you some further talking points.
1) One Piece has Fishmen. Their entire existence is an ever-evolving discussion of race, oppression, and slavery. Any story arc about them focuses on the fact they are enslaved and how they as a people have responded to this bigotry. It stumbles sometimes, but overall is an anti-racist message.
2) There is an entire faction of the revolutionary army made up of gay, lesbian, bi, pan, nonbinary, and trans individuals who rebelled against the government because of their oppression. Their leader ate the Devil Fruit that gives hormone control and gives out magic HRT to their followers. Their right hand person is gender fluid and we never learn their gender assigned at birth. This happened in 2011! And it cames years before Yamato, the trans masculine character from Wano you mentioned, so his inclusion wasn't even a change in representation. It had been doing it for years.
3) Sorry, amend that: Bon Klei from Baroque Works was an even earlier example from 2005 of a cannonically nonbinary, pansexual character in the series. Bon Klei was a villian but portrayed as the most sympathetic and likely to turn good...which they did during Impel Down where they made a heroic sacrifice to let Luffy escape. Cannoically, the only member of the organization to be allowed to use both male and female designations. Which makes sense since their leader, Crocodile, has hinted to be trans masculine since the magic HRT guy, Ivankov, hinted at having a secret about Crocodile that they'd never tell about a favor they did for him once. The live action series even accidentally hinted at this when Luffy's actor accidentally almost admited the female presenting audience member of Gol. D. Rodger's execution was Crocodile.
4) Fuck, I could go back to race and discuss that for hours too. You can actually map the history of how mainstream media depicts racial strife through the evolving depiction of Fishmen because of how long the series has run. Fishman Island's arc was rough, but I really liked the struggle between Otohime's dream of changing the world through intergration and shared humanity versus Fish Tigher wanting to believe in that dream but knowing the institution of slavery exists and freeing slaves violently despite this hurting Otohime's goals because he couldn't ignore the suffering now for an imagined future. Or how Fischer Tiger was a broken man as a former slave since he was a hero for freeing all slaves regardless of race, including Boa Hancock who'd become an all of Luffy, but secrelty wrestling with a deep seeded hatred of mankind for what they did to him, once he actively supressed to help humans who were enslaved and to avoid spreading hate to the children. The worst part of Fishman Island is the best parts were flashbacks.
5) The World Government is a standin for every government and every empire. The series potrayed them as evil. It doesn't portray all government as evil, but any government that doesn't listen to its people as evil. The world government promotes slavery, profits off the suffering of the poor, uses the military to supress free thought, and many other evils. On a smaller scale, the Drum Island arc has one of the heinous things that the villian did that was seen as reprehensible and evil was that he privated medicine. Like it's so on the nose.
Fuck, I can go on, but it's hilarious to me that he chose the one anime that would absolutely tick him off. Often the struggles and progressive messages in anime don't phase Americans and Europeans as they get censored out or they feature elements that aren't progressive for our current social issues. And this guy picked one of mainstream anime that made that a big factor of its worldbuilding. You can't make this up.
I will say that the trans representation pre-Yamato (or, pre-Kiku, rather) was, um... less than flattering, though. I mean it helps that Luffy clearly does not give a single damn about whether they "conform to gender norms" or whatever and just treats Bon-chan, Iva and the Kamabakka folks exactly the same as he would any other person, but, uh, the way Oda draws them is... heavily seeped in stereotypes and felt like it was playing them for jokes.
But yeah. One Piece? *Extremely* not even slightly aligned with "conservative values" like the main character *literally* has overthrown multiple tyrannical monarchs and allowed populist leaders to come and take said monarchs' place. (Though tbf in Dressrosa he kicked out the corrupt king so that the old, much nicer king could take over again... But in Drum Kingdom he literally kicked out the "rightful" king who was then replaced with a democratically elected leader loved by the people.)
One Piece actually reminds me a bit of Doctor Who. One guy and his constantly evolving crew traveling to weird distant lands and battling injustice along the way.
I do not think the show is "woke". It is not dominated by girl bosses and the male heroes have positive masculine traits like ambition in different ways.
And? It is still what conservatives would call "woke" it's pretty progressive @@steinarvilnes3954
I'm glad you responded. He suddenly started getting recommended to me when the specials started, and even though I know it's pretty pointless, I ended up arguing in the comments. People seemed upset that I referred to Mr rattler as an outrage merchant. I'm tired of arguing with those people now anyway.
Same thing happened to me! I traded comments with the guy. You are right, arguing is pointless. His content is extremely slanted toward the dramatic right mentality.
@@loftus4453 Yes. Arguing with them only reinforces their own insecurities and also ends up feeding the RUclips algorithm actually helping these morons get more views. The best thing to do is just ignore, and report their videos.
Is it just me or does it seem obvious that people like MelonRattler are people that just... don't want to grow up? Cause lately with people like nerdrotic and others it just seems more and more obvious that these people just want to stay children for the rest of their lives. Not wanting to learn anything new or accept new things....they just want that childlike mentality of being unaware that the shows they like are trying to say something while also be, in the case of doctor who, a wacky sci-fy show about a alien in a time machine/space ship who can also change their forms if hurt or their body gives out due to old age.
People like him really need to just admit that they have some sort of self-infantilization kink and act it out in a safe consenting space instead of making it everyone else's problem by making fucking RUclips channels.
It seems that they're even more angry bigots that always need something to rage about and want to promote and spread their political extremism. The fact that most of them profit from that rage only encourages them to stay toxic and keep lying.
As someone who loves anime and manga in sick of these reactionaries using it as a way to say look how unwoke and apolitical it is when literally all the best ones are heavily political. One piece in itself is so left leaning political that I genuinely can’t understand what the fuck they’re talking about. The main characters dad is literally Che Guevara
If reactionaries can still enjoy entertainment that's "woke" then doesn't that mean "wokeness" isn't the deciding factor whenever they decide to hate on something, that perhaps the entertainment in question is just bad.
@@madassassin5465 No.
I came back to the fandom with the 60th and youtube keeps pushing me outright homophobic and transphobic people melting over lgbt and black people existing, I'm glad we have our own side of "breadtube" here, cheers pal
Same. I just want to watch some interesting analyses and I get people like Bowlestrek on my recommended. If there wasn’t an option to block specific channels I’d probably die and regenerate out of sheer frustration.
Ironically enough “Blink” and “Silence in the Library” have lower viewing figures than the most of the 2023 specials.
On that point silence in the Library had a bigger drop in viewing figures compared to the previous week (unicorn and the wasp) compare that to 8.41 for unicorn to 6.27 for silence to star beast, wild blue and even throw In the giggle and you still don't get that drop in viewers. And that's arguably "peak" Doctor Who.
I knew it! This proves that Blink is woke drivel! The statues are meant to be a metaphor for how capitalism pushes people into the past instead of letting them live into the future! The numbers don’t lie after all!
@@anthonyfisher-7090with that example there was a 2 week gap between unicorn & silence in the library cause of the Eurovision Song Contest.
While the 2 week break happened in series 3 as well & that didn’t have a significant drop in viewers I think the fact silence in the library was marketed as being scarier put people off. Same thing happened between family of blood & blink
@BH-98 my point still stands that over that period more viewers turned off then during the Specials however because its 2008 no one says "it's shit" "viewers turn off woke doctor who" do they? Its the same point Mr tardis made about series 1 and 5 in the video probably just worded badly
I like to point out that Heaven Sent has a lower AI than Fear Her - viewing figures and stuff like that mean absolutely nothing.
That One Piece timing was absolutely perfect! 😂 👌
There is an alt-right problem in the doctor who community and it is not being addressed enough. Thank you for calling it out.
It's rife in all sci-fi fandoms these days, unfortunately.
@@Faction.ParadoxAll the great foundational classics of sci-fi are distinctly left wing, which is why the alt-right has waged a long campaign of social media colonization to destroy and discredit the genre and media in general in the public consciousness. Everything they touch falls to rot and decay.
I prefer to call them the "alt-wrong", because they usually are.
The alt-right are infecting all cultural things it's been a constant incline since around 2016.
It's alt-right infiltration. Just because they claim they liked the series before doesn't mean you should take them at their word. They never cared about Doctor Who, or Star Trek for that matter, they care about their politics being forced down our throats, which is ironic because that's what they accuse Doctor Who of doing.
Ad hominem attacks are the sign of someone who's either lost the argument or never had one to begin with. Out of all the points he's made, ONLY the repeat of the impossible girl was for me, his ONLY fair point.
So Mr. Tardis lost the argument as well, then yes? He didn't shy from dishing ad hominems, either...
@sixstanger00 There was a lot more substance in Mr Tardis's reply. Just out of interest, what ad hominem are you referring to?
The most funny thing about these people is that, if they’d actually met the Doctor, the Doctor would despise them and be nothing like what they expected or want them to be. They’re lucky they can’t actually meet the Doctor.
But they CAN meet the actors if they try and see them at conventions.
Probably be the same reaction though
I mean the doctor would probably be traumatized that people look up to him At all that's self loathing and war crimes
Shit,I'd be like I'm ready to go!!let's go Doctor!!there's nothing here for me,give or take some family, and a handful of friends,and I'd make use of my life trying to fight evil,and save some ppl and a planet,or galaxy/universe...
Btw Doc, b4 we depart,can we PLZ PLZ PLZ IM BEGGING YOU,pick up Martha/Freema to go along for tha ride??!!😂🤣🤦♂️✌️🍻
@guyincognito6582 As I'm sure you're aware that a fictional character cannot be held hostage because you can't actually kidnap them. 😉 That's not an argument. Grow up.
@guyincognito6582The fictional character know as “The Doctor” was created by people you consider to be “woke” today just for existing, appearing on screen or working - a Canadian immigrant: Sydney Newman, and a jewish woman: Verity Lambert. The character’s debut was directed by a gay Asian: Waris Hussein 😉 grow up.
I understand wanting anonymity, but I'm not about to take the opinions of an unripe watermelon to heart
These reactionaries are so predictable, it's hilarious! And "This show will be cancelled in three years" Series 14 is in the can, Series 15 is currently filming and Series 16 AND 17 are already being planned taking us up to at LEAST 2027 and not just that but SPIN OFFS are also in the works with the first major one beginning production in the next few months! Doctor Who is becoming bigger than ever and clearly it isn't going anywhere anytime soon so clearly isn't being cancelled or even primed for the axe!
Or series 123 and four
Or forty one forty two forty three forty four
Depending on how you count
What if it got cancelled because all TV shows were cancelled as the human race suddenly had to pour all of our resources into saving our planet? Technically he would be correct in that circumstance, but he'd also have to cope with the fact that we all will eventually, that climate change is an undeniable reality we need to do something about.
We also breezed right over the fact that he called Ncuti a gay slur. Like, “spinning around like a f^cking f@iry”
Fairy is a common term used as a slur for gay men. It’s lost fashion a little in our time, but was far more popular years ago. There is no fucking way he meant the literal mythological fairy there.
The one piece moment legitimately couldnt have been more perfect.
That dancing like a Fairy argument reminds me of someone describing the scene as a "Gay Rave". And like, while that sounds like a fun time as a Bi Person, imagine telling on yourself THAT MUCH that you haven't been to a party in your life 😭
@guyincognito6582 Nah, i Don't need help to know and be confident in who i am
It’s especially funny because that club is clearly not a gay club, 15 was just vibing at a generic nightclub whilst wearing a kilt
On twitter, the guy claims to have triggered you, because of course he can't admit defeat. As we all know "He's the only one who can be correct! And if you disagree, you're just mad or a shill or whatever!"
4:57 Are you actually not sure what he’s on about? Because those people by now tend to complain about the same things over and over again that they don’t even need dog-whistles anymore one to know what they mean.
A diverse cast and crew, especially non-white and non-cishet people, that’s what they complain about the most.
I'm so glad I brought this to your attention MrTardis. Love you debunking these people who have so much brain rot.
Actually I did mate
@Dillongrey I deeply apologise. I misread the room when I was watching the stream. I remember sending a message letting MrTardis know about the video early in the stream. Must have misremembered.
@@beanjake085 don't apologize for anything. You did nothing wrong. Many of us stumbled on this video.
I was there in the 80s - I remember them and British Sci Fi aesthetically those days was literally a joke. The DW people had a funny accedote about running into a Blake 7 production in the same gravel pit. It was loved in spite of the production values not because of them, well unless you were Michael Grade who probably hated it for that reason amongst many. Melon Farmer is talking out of his arse.
I love how he says that "Yeah, its in the top 3 or whatever, but nobody watches this stuff anymore!" So.... which one is it?
I love these types of stream. its always constant laughter at these fools.
Just a reminder: if you're not part of the company making a show, you have no reason to care about viewing figures. Viewing figures don't mean anything about the quality of a show; some terrible shows get great viewing figures and some great shoes get terrible viewing figures.
Whenever people mention viewing figures it's because they don't want to make their actual argument which is often just 'woke is bad'.
He said on twitter he triggered you. Yet here you are laughing him off whilst he sounds on the verge of tears 😂
That's the problem with these idiots. They claim any response is triggered
Guy sounded like he was about to flat out break down into a crying fit when he saw David Tennant in that shirt
@@dylanshadowstar9779 An hour long live stream bitching about his video IS triggered.
@@sixstanger00no, it's not. Just because you say it is, doesn't make it true.
@@paulheap1982 Yes, it definitely is. There's responding to someone and then there's devoting way too much of your time to moaning about someone else saying words that hurt your fragile feelings. Just ignore him and move on with your sad life.
Do you follow this clown on X? He's constantly bantering with MelonRattler and Will of the Fans.
I mean... MrTardis grinds the f*** out of my gears, but I'm not about to waste an hour of my short time on this Earth bitching about it.
Where do these people even come from?? I swear, they can't be real human beings. This has to be an AI or something
There's about a quarter to a third of the British and American population who are totally averse to facts or logic - which is why recent polls showed that around 30% of Brits still believe that Brexit was a good idea, and a third of Americans still believe that the 2020 election was "stolen". There's a huge overlap between these folks and those who are anti-vaxxers, who deny climate change, hate "wokeness" etc. IMHO, bozos like these shouldn't be allowed on social media, or anywhere near a voting booth.
Sorry to tell you, they're real. I've seen them. I live in a County in Colorado that in 2016 voted for... well, I won't sully the comment section.
But that doesn't mean their brains aren't infested with parasites or something.
The problem when people try to use figures to say a show is going downhill 1. The way episodes are viewed has changed and 2. What are the factors when they use numbers is it overnight, is it worldwide, etc?
Strangely relaxing to see how weak these anti-Who arguments are getting. Rip Doctor Who 1963-2017?, what are they smoking!!!
Like fr! Why is this world full of idiotic shitheads?
If some of these guys were around since the beginning they’d be going like:
“ RIP DOCTOR WHO 1963-1966. THEY GOT RID OF THE ONE TALENT LEFT, WILLIAM HARTNELL, AND REPLACED HIM WITH A TALENTLESS CLOWN PATRICK TROUGHTON WHO CAN ONLY DO STUPID COMEDY WAVING HIS MAGIC SCREWDRIVER. ALL DESTROYING YEARS OF LORE WITH THE “RENEWAL” RETCON, SPITTING ON HARTNELL’S LEGACY. SHAMEFUL, IT SHOULD BE CANCELED WITHIN THE HOUR.”
@@idle_speculationor god forbid, imagine if they were around during the transition from Troughton to Pertwee
RIP DOCTOR WHO!!!! THEY GOT RID OF THE TIME TRAVEL, IT’S NOW SO CHEAP THEY CAN’T EVEN BUILD A TARDIS SET!!!! IT’S JUST A MAN RIDING AROUND IN HIS SHITTY LITTLE CAR NOW, SHAMEFUL!!!
@@mrcritical6751 ALL THEY CARE ABOUT NOW IS SPECIAL EFFECTS AND FANCY TECHNICOLOR. RIP DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 1970
@@idle_speculation SARAH-JANE IS THE WORSR COMPANION EVER, SHE’S SUCH A SMART ASS, CONSTANTLY ACTING LIKE SHE’S AS SMART AS HE IS!!!!
I left a comment on the original video saying he better keep this video up till 2027.
I love your cheerful and intelligent delivery. It's like a really fun master class in how to argue a point. With great Doctor Who content of course. I learn a lot. My husband and I recently started watching Doctor Who. I absolutely love it. I didn't have a TV growing up and still don't; I buy the DVDs and watch on the computer. We've watched all of the 9th and 10th Doctors so far. The complete 11th Doctor series, Stories 1-3 from Series 1 of the 1st Doctor, and complete Series 1 of Baker are on order. If anyone has another DVD to recommend, let me know.
I hardly ever watch movies or shows, but this is the most imaginative, wonderful, and wacky thing ever. Definitely hooked. I'm also fascinated by its long history, constant evolution, and effect on so many people. And glad there's your channel here to explain stuff I need to know and defend the show.
MelonRatler sounds like a discount Mauler.
That timing on the One Piece mention oh my goodness 😂
As a Godzilla fan, it's frustrating to no end to see my favourite IP (next to Dr Who) being dragged into the culture war BS, especially how it managed to remain untainted for the longest time, other than maybe one idiot who claimed Vs. Kong was woke.
I’m just happy Kong Skull Island came out before the entire internet decided to hate Brie Larson for no godamn reason
Yeah the stupid "controversy " over the color of Godzilla's spines is idiotic and frustrating.
@@charlesherm511 Not to mention the claims that the Monsterverse has 'jumped the shark' and is 'turning into Transformers' because of.....a single shot of him running fast.
Wait until he finds out that one piece is EXTREMELY political, but I doubt he has the reading comprehension to even figure it out
You want expressly political anime? Give Gundam a shot.
A lot of anti-war and anti-facism, perpetuated by governments and sometimes corportations (Witch from Mercury went hard on that), often with teenagers caught in the middle of it as the soldiers.
Also Newtype space magic, lots of Newtype space magic.
To be honest, the fact that Destiny of the Daleks is the most watched Dalek story and Remembrance of the Daleks is one of the lowest just goes to show viewing figures don't really relate to quality anyway.
What is sad is that I’ve always held that the measure of the individual can be determined by knowing their enemies. Apparently I think too much of you, Mr. TARDIS. 🤣🤣🤣
Famously high production values in rose I mean that cgi bin looks so real
And the Nestine Conciousness. I mean, gee. So real.
When Mellonhead mentions people are going all over the place for entertainment he fails to realize that also impacts what the statistics being offered. I offer myself as an example. I mean I purchase Doctor Who physically when I can to keep up with the series because there aren't any real other choices for viewing online other than BBC America (in the day) and now Disney+. If I could afford Crunchyroll and Disney+ together yes I would be watching it. Also if I had a more effective way of viewing Doctor Who during the Whittaker Era I would have been watching her as well. I liked her. So I am not among the stats because I am not finding a decent way to watch it online. I am also sure I am not alone.
There are a massive more amount of content out there to watch so stands to reason viewership is more spread out. The worst viewed episode of series 11 beat 27 Capaldi episodes. So why compare the specials to his era?
How many fucking times do I have to say Viewing Figures dose not determine quality. I'm glad I click don't recommend RUclips channel on Not My Doctor videos.
No, but they "dose" (??) determine success and popularity and arguing that these figures mean the show isn't successful is just utterly bewildering. It's a huge hit, whether you like it or not. You people are fighting the wrong battle with defective weapons.
I agree with what you're saying, but I also like the quality of recent Doctor Who. It's a welcome change after the Chibnall era was so poorly written IMO
40:04 I have never seen William laugh this hard in a while. Amazing timing
One thing I've noticed about these alt-right RUclipsrs is that they're often too scared to show their face and instead they use stills of an abstract cartoon character (in this case the drinking melon slice) or even actual cartoon characters (hell I've seen one with screencaps of Kronk before) as a sort of stand-in to the presence of them as a person. I've seen "anti-woke" reviewers doing this a hell of a lot.
Genuinely it's too much of a pattern to be a coincidence. Is it part of their playbook to deliver their dangerous takes through a vessel of supposed lightheartedness/levity?
I'm glad you mentioned about the views drop between series opener vs the rest of the series. It is so normal to lose viewers after the first episode, but because these people are determined to claim that no-one likes DW anymore because it's "woke" (what does that even mean?!) they focus on the drop between the episodes featuring trans people. They're not fooling anyone, their transphobia is showing.
Also imagine suggesting that David Tennant isn't a mega star, what a twit.
People like him only do this kind of thing for clicks and views
Unless you remember there are people who genuinely believe this kinda stuff
@@APlatypus and I'm saying there are also people who do it for a grift
@@APlatypus why say that so condescendingly? Yeah I know it's usually the result of right wing extremist propaganda being buzzed into their heads on a daily basis
You just don't get how research is too much effort
Absolutely devastated that I missed the stream and didn’t get to see the One Piece thing happen live
It was genuinely hysterical I couldn't breath for 2 minutes after witnessing that
"Being the most viewed drama with a high share still is BAD somehow." There's no pleasing with these people. But what I don't get the most: He claims he loved the Tennant years back then, but how did he not catch all the "woke" massages when he watched those? Did he actually ever rewatch them or is this just the result of a very selective memory? Wondering this about a lot of these Outrage Guys, really.
I hate that people are going to anime now because it isn't woke but if they saw cowboy bebop, for example, they would cry and whinge since there are non-binary characters like Ed.
I know one piece might have trans or non-binary I'm not too sure but that show would piss them off and all reactionaries or ignore it.
Yeah I mean some animes since the 90s have had gay couples such as Sailor Moon on both the heros and Villians side. Plus the Starlights in the first anime that literally changed genders.
@@BradLad56So you’ve never seen Sailor Moon, where two of the main characters are a lesbian couple? saying that, you’ve probably only seen the dubbed version where they were “cousins”.
@@BradLad56 I never mentioned anything to do with non-binary 😂 there’s a joke in anime fandom that’s referred to as “kissing cousins” - the lesbian couple in Sailor Moon: Neptune and Uranus. Wikipedia: “Sailor Uranus fights alongside her partner and lover Sailor Neptune”.
My opinion? He wanted you to cover this to boost his channel. His opinions and facts are so unfounded it’s an absolute joke. I congratulated him for stimulating comments with his ridiculously over the top criticisms as they would generate lots of views. Seems I was correct.
The One Piece bit was wild to see live, reactionaries accidentally enjoying "woke" things will never, ever cease to be funny. MelonRattler is gonna be so pissed when he realises
Great response as usual, love to see it. You're very good at hitting back at others' points (not that they're much of a challenge to debunk though lol)
One thing I wanna say is I can never understand the complaints about bad CGI in the show. I've found all the effects since the specials to be great, the corridor in WBY is really impressive and never looked bad to me, the goblin ship is stunning and all the other effects are great, probably because a lot of it's actually done practically! Even if they aren't top-quality effects, it's better than a lot of the stuff from the early 2000s and sure as hell better than most of the stuff from the 1970s! Knowing these specials were made before the budget upping makes me even more impressed if anything, and incredibly excited for the effects quality in the full series. If these guys think the effects are bad in this then I can't wait to show them the Vardans from The Invasion of Time, that'll throw them for a loop!
Another common MrTARDIS W!
Hay can you tell me can find it in the video?
@@paulmoses338139:50 is where you'll find da booty, da doubloons, da gold, as dey say
probably because it was an adaptation that was done well? that seems to be the cause for praise in most things, if done well people will like it regardless of what it has. people often cry woke not because of whats in it specificaly, but "how" its done, and a lot of times its not done very well at all. plus with pre-existing franchises a lack of respect tends to make em feel defensive and snippy.
I am 4 minutes in and decided I can't listen to his negativity any longer. I'm watching the Church on Ruby Road again 🎉🎉
Another battle won against those who poorly try to take you down.
On the subject of reactionary’s, do you plan to cover Bowelstrek’s reviews of the rest of the anniversary specials, Church on Ruby Road and the video which I think he’s lost his mind in; his Professor Dickles goat vid which if I recall he complains about black and trans people in Doctor Who, calls you out again and claims you and those on Twitter have cancelled him. It’s so delusional, you can’t help but laugh.
Ya I love how Bowelstrek gets all shouty just to show how much of a man baby he is
I still remember his argument against the first poster of Jodie Whittaker being “it looks like Doctor Who Goes To Elf Land”
Have you found the video about the snowman comment being a adult(s%*) action that the woke lot are trying to show to kids. Or the videos claiming that the new tardis team want to leave for absolutely no reason(the fact they are calling all this a woke\message mess and that no body wants to watch this tripe can't possibly have any influence.) They are only speaking about doing other projects on the side or not sure what RTD may have planned in the future.
1:25 The main characters in One Piece aren't revolutionaries and their goal isn't to take down the world government but to find the One Piece and become King of the Pirates. It is Luffy's father and brother who are revolutionaries but Luffy himself has admitted he doesn't care about that stuff. The World Government being his enemy is just part of being a pirate and the fact that they tend to hurt his friends, he's not fighting them for some revolutionary reason. And the trans characters in the anime isn't something to take pride in, considering they're used for gags for 99% of their screen time, there's even a gag about one of the characters running away from men in drag.
Doctor Who and Star Trek. Two shows that spent decades promoting liberal, socially progressive politics and values. The fact people complain that these shows have gotten too politically liberal and woke and it's ruined them will never cease to amaze me. What were these people watching for all those years before? Because it clearly wasn't the same stuff the rest of us saw.
Honestly what a discusting individual to use such offensive abelist words in regards to your name on here boils my blood, your honestly one of my favourite doctor who creators, x
I see these videos thinking oooo other people are criticising doctor who? Lemme check it out see if they’re sane
Nope they never are
It's a shame because there is nothing wrong with criticism. But 'criticism' rooted in 'anything not fascist is bad' is only relevant to people who tie their entire personality and life into their politics. It's like the same with these Christian fundamentalists in America, if something isn't all about their personal religious values then they hate it.
I have had to stop engaging with fandoms now. Star Wars, DW, GoT Harry Potter all went a weird alt right route. It isn’t everyone but a lot of the creators who are the most vocal ruined it. Likewise I used to watch theory videos, which ended up ruining the actual material as it wasn’t as good as the stuff we would come up with , a reflection of the quality the media. I just watch the media now, maybe watch a review or two from a select few.
It’s so odd to me as the creators are usually left wing, artsy types. I think because we still have old farts such in the 80s who haven’t retired. I have noticed this with tv presenters we still have old presenters who began 30 years ago presenting everything, let some new faces in the game, like why is Bradley Welsh on every game show now 😂
In particular DW was made by liberal people (liberal in their day)
In fairness, he might have been referencing the netflix show, however these people also hate the witcher cause they have a bigger focus on the female characters
Never heard of this guy, never want to hear anymore about this guy, won't be watching him ever
You're in the thumbnail of his most recent video, talking about how russel t davis and steven moffat hates fans.
Timelash is essentially a sequel to Jon pertwee story that never existed and includes a painting of him in the green outfit
The problem is with people like him is they believe the show should still be get pre-streaming figures when in today’s landscape that’s not going to happen and they site all these made up reasons for it not getting those numbers and call the show dead even though Jodie’s era was technically successful as much as they tried to get us to hate it so there argument doesn’t hold water
Hi, MrTardis! Sorry if this is not the right place to ask, but I was hoping that you - or someone here - could help me. I'm trying to make a list of all the Doctor Who episodes set in Victorian England. On the web I found some examples that didn't seem paritcularly accurate, so I was hoping you could help me be precise with this. Thanks and sorry for bothering you.
The best I can suggest, aside from just going through every story, is going on Tardis Wiki and reading through their page on "Victorian Era".
@@MrTARDIS Ah, yeah, that is the first thing I did ^^ ... but it seemed to me that the wiki was not exactly complete, so I just wanted to have a second opinion on the list I already have here. Guess I'll double check, going through every story as you suggested. Thanks for your time.
"Oi watcha doin dancing around like a fairy?"
"Sir this is a Ballet"
Blogtor Who figured out the average viewing figures for Who and all other shows for the year, and revealed that with an average Live+7 ratings of 7.27 million viewers, Doctor Who was the second most watched drama of the entire year, behind only Happy Valley.
Unless I'm mistaken that's the first time in Doctor Who's 60 year history that it was in the two most watched dramas for the entire year. Another point you can make to prove the extremists wrong.
The point is that the 18-34-year-old demographic is the most important demographic for advertisers and marketers because they have the most disposable income. If a show is doing well in that demographic. Fan-wanky shows that don't appeal to the 18-35-year-old demographic are cancellation candidates. Yer man doesn't know jack.
Hi I am not British so I don’t get what he meant by calling you a Treacle,I know treacle is Molasses,and it can mean someone is calling you sweetheart,but this genuinely fucking confused me
Time to block these people.
So it looks like brainless Mellon is taking on the bet. Something tells me that in three years he’ll backtrack and find an excuses not to pay 100 quibs to the Trans Charity😂😂😂
39:26 That was definitely North Korea. South Korea doesn't shoot any weapons at Japan!
Ok, maybe he said the wrong Korea, but the point still stands.
@@doctor8262lmao pretty hard to get them confused
@SadBnnuy OK, oh, sorry
Yep, just double checked. NORTH Korea. My mistake. The point still stands, however.
@@MrTARDIS Oh, it definitely stands! 🙂
Don't get me wrong... I can't tell you how pleasant and relaxing it is to watch a video, without needing to wonder when I'll hear someone squealing in self satisfaction for becoming the 9 billionth person to cleverly recite "go woke and go broke"(You know it's true because it rhymes). Because their day was ruined by the _existence_ of minorities, women, LGBTQ+, or heaven forbid someone thats all three, in a film or tv show they may or may not actually watch.
It really is just... *nice* to watch content that discusses popular media without any of that nonsense, and I realize there are A LOT of people out there that dedicate their every waking moment to opposing the so-called "woke agenda", but I'm starting to wonder if we're giving them too much attention. Engaging and arguing with them, as if their opinions had any merit. I don't know. I suppose we can't simply ignore that kind of BS since silence can be mistaken as complaisance, but it's not difficult to see that their side is losing. 😅I have to believe there's a better way to finally rid ourselves of these silly backwards ideas, but I'm just not smart enough to figure out what it is.
We think the same about you. Why are you people so easily accepting of things that in the long term degrade and splinter society. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but there are so many different factions of progressives arguing amongst each other simply because most of it is based entirely on group identities. Take TERFs for example. To a conservative, they're incredibly progressive in their overpromotion of women to the point of damaging men and heterosexual relationships. But to a progressive, their fatal flaw is excluding the transcommunity. This is, however, understandable, because if you're an insufferable feminist, you clearly see how men in dresses are invading women's spaces. Most normal women also feel at least somewhat uneasy about that. Have I sketched a good enough picture of how more and more division is created? This doesn't happen because gays and transpeople exist, no, they've been around for a while. The issue is overpromotion, pandering, acceptance of new or alternative definitions without question or critical thinking. By that I mean that gays, lesbians, bisexuals, asexuals, intersex and "binary" transpeople (those who permanently switch from one side of the binary to the other) are completely fine, but LGBTQIA+ as a "community" and propagandamachine with their [random word]-sexuals and [random word]-genders and "genderreassignment" surgery for minors, who don't know the first thing about life are a serious danger. When it comes to race, similar story, there is no issue with a random occasional immigrant who would love to live in your country and integrate into the native culture of said country, but that doesn't happen. There's a huge influx of non-integrating immigrants who don't care where they are as long as they get money, either through jobs or for free. What happens is more crime over time and muddying of the native culture until eventually there's nothing left of it.
I believe with the one piece thing oda never said that character was trans they seem to be a girl with male pronouns, as recently oda did a piece with all female one piece characters and that character was there
I mean, that still falls under the trans umbrella if true.
It is very funny that his reaction has you talking over it more than your reaction to his reaction
I think they should reboot it, as the lore have become so convoluted and messy I feel it detracts from the enjoyment of the show. Also, I hate this show now because they did not bother to make the later seasons available here in Norway.
I didn't know Manny the Mammoth was an alt-righter.
I'm glad I left Twitter with the stupid nitpicky Doctor Who hot takes, people being creepy towards the Last of Us cast, and the shitty new management.
I unironically love Warriors of the Deep. I love how The Doctor falls into the water for a second and my boy says it's too late he's drowned. I wish we got more on screen with that TARDIS team.
I mean, the time lords invented cats and tardis Both of which do not like water so maybe they can't swim either
they invented CATS!? @@plantainsame2049
Did he watch "EastEnders" in the 1990s-2010 period? It was well-known for being cause-based and so preachy, that people were complaining about it.
Or most soaps really, even Hollyoaks.
These same people also claim Star Trek wasn't anywhere near as political as it was when Star Trek Discovery was released. Now people saying that are definitely coping.
Anyone who has seen Deep Space Nine and claims it's 'not as political as Discovery' is just factually incorrect on every level.
@@lloroshastar6347Star Trek TNG literally had cross dressing crewmembers in the background and an episose of Riker trying to save a trans woman from being given sone form of conversion therapy in one episide
@@mrcritical6751 Yeah TNG was also pretty progressive. The least progressive series I'd argue is the Original Series, and that's only because it's so dated, at the time it was one of the most progressive things on TV.
TNG even had a line about how revolutionary movements used a violent uprising to overthrow oppressive and colonial governments. Then you had the episode in the last season about a Native American tribe being forcefully relocated.
I honestly struggle to think of anything that wasn't progressive in Star Trek throughout it's history.
I just can't take these anti-SJW's seriously because they lie so brazenly, or they just admit they can't think critically.
@@lloroshastar6347 I’d say the only one outside of TOS, that fumbled would be Voyager. And that’s only because every moment of progressiveness they had in that show kinda got trumped by the fact they failed at representing native Americans correctly via Chakotay
@@mrcritical6751 Yeah kinda felt like they didn't do much research into that, also they dropped the Maquis subplot pretty quickly which was a shame.
1:45 explain
It's actually more accurate to call Yamato androgynous or gender non-conforming than trans. The cultural and societal norms surrounding gender non-conformity in Japan are very different from what they are in the West, and you should try to avoid viewing LGBT characters in Japanese media through your Western perspective because often it will not align with the perspective of the author. This is likely one of the reasons why Oda has avoided commenting on the subject one way or the other, because he knows that he won't be able to give an answer that won't piss off both pro and anti-LGBT Westerners.
I love there are hundreds of nails in the coffin
There's this person who keeps showing up in the comments to these videos who says that comparing DW's audiences to other current shows is like bringing a Ferrari to a go kart race. I think if your reasoning as to why current Who is bad and people don't like it includes comparing it to a Ferrari, maybe you should rework your reasoning.
I've had a few run ins with the guy, he is a lost cause. I got stuck in an argument that went nowhere
😂 its so funny when people sight Rose as "better" because of the people at the top. 😂
Why does he sound like Beta Mauler?
I feel like almost no one can talk about the viewing figures for the most recent episodes of Doctor Who objectively. Everyone seems to be biased in one way or the other, Mr TARDIS included. The only one who even comes close is Council of Geeks.
I for one liked the special effects in the specials. Even the few dodgy ones I could spot. And apart from a couple of moments such as the "let it go" moment, cos I felt it was a biiit to on the nose but that is just me. I loved the specials. Even the song number on the Goblin Ship.
Oh hey, there's a Planet Earth III. Neat.
NuWho entered popular consciousness in a way that OldWho hadn't. Made me go back to Unearthly Child and watch it through when I'd only caught an ep or two in its initial run (yaaarggghhh I'm old!)
Oh, and I didn't get to see the specials for at least one or two days later. +7 views catch me.
Temerity not tenacity
... "audacity" would have worked in that context, too.
To be fair saying OP is about the Revs is abit misleading imo . Show is still political with the main theme about freedom and equality . Straw hats are against the gov but not directly trying to take them down imo
The Straw Hats are *absolutely* revolutionaries, even if Luffy does not define himself as one.
@@MrTARDIS I get what you mean now, thought you were talking about the rev army being the main focus. My mind goes straight to them when I hear revolution and OP
@@BradLad56 if I break into someone's house and steal something, then someone says "You're a burglar", I can just say "No, I don't call myself a burglar so I'm not one!"
No, doesn't work like that.
Luffy is a revolutionary. He's literally tearing down the old world order over 1000+ chapters/episodes.
@@BradLad56 I genuinely cannot imagine why this is a hill you're willing to die on.
Firstly, are you only a revolutionary when you've FINISHED the job? No, obviously not. Being a revolutionary, by definition, is the act in-and-of-itself of revolution.
@@BradLad56 , I've already explained this.
If I rob a house, get caught and someone says "He's a burglar!" would you honestly say "Dude, have you ever heard MrTARDIS say he robbed the house? He's not burglar because he doesn't say he is".
100 views for a positive video or 1000 views for negative. Wonder why bowl, yellow, Rabbi etc do the negative?
Because they're shameless grifters.
He's accepted your wager!
Considering he thinks that so much as wearing a pro-LGBTQ+ badge makes you a pedo (no joke, that's what he said in his latest video), I think there's absolutely no way he'd be willing to donate £100 to a trans youth charity. No shot. Happy to be proven wrong, but I think there's no shot.
Oh amazing!
Yeah I saw his video on you. I also saw his video about David Tennant being a groomer.
Not supporting him but Wikipedia isn’t the best to get info for it can be changed he shouldn’t be saying stuff about you etc
For the 7-day viewing figures, it's a perfectly fine place to get the info at a glance.
Why do you care what some sort of Toxic guy thinks? I watched this video and was really amused by it. It was hysteriocal. I don't agree with a portion of what you say. I find it irritating. But for the most part you have alot of decent insights. You shouldn't care what this kind of Tuber thinks or react to it at all.
When I say, 'this video I mean I watched his vid not yours. His was hysterical and I enjoy yours for teh most part.
who is this guy???? Oh my gosh!!!!! Lol Mr Tardis
When i see these kinda vids i dont resoond to it but pass it on to those who are better equpt to talk bout it
"Beta boy" lol. Only betas buy into beta panic.
A real man can wear a dress and make up And still call himself a man because he Is certain in his identity
If you're going to compare to Series 1-10 you might as well compare the Star Beast viewing figures to Season 4-7, Season 18, or Season 20-26 of classic era.
40:04-40:09 It’s more ridiculous than the time where I had a shitty weebish relative basically claimed My Hero Acidemia was The Boys type of anti-superhero story.