Husqvarna Norden 901 all day every day.... 24kg lighter than Veloce and more torque at lower RPM. Norden with Arrow midle pipe is just great sounding bike
Love your enthusiasm Chad, after all these years its nice to see someone still excited by their job. Given the price and probable lack of off-roading use by the vast majority of owners surely a 19" front wheel would have made more sense? Wet and cold northern european roads would benefit from a bigger contact patch with the obvious benefit of turn in speed.
Italian bikes (Ducati, Moto Guzzi, MV, and Aprilia) are awesome…when they work. Reliability and maintenance is simply not worth the trouble in long run.
Are all Italian motorcycle unreliable? How about the German motorcycles,i.e., BMW? BMW has had major issues with their shaft drives for over a decade. Then there was that major issue with their telelever front suspension. Do these issues count towards making BMWs less reliable or what? I've always owned Japanese motorcycles myself and I have found them to be utterly reliable. However, I have been looking at the bikes from both Ducati and MV Augusta and they do look very appealing.
Love Italian bikes and ride a Multi but MVs are so rare on British roads. Apart from the cost, dealer back up, reliability issues etc. they are not popular despite their looks, it’s a shame but I can’t see this changing anytime soon…
As a MV Agusta F3 800 owner and a Triumph 1200 Explorer I can see that this bike is like Range Rover, that can go offroad without making a fool of it self and then cruise to southern Italy with no hassle. A MPV bike for cumuting and then pack it up go for a holiday. Just like my old Land Rover 🙂 It looks like the Triumph might be replaced
At £14k-£16k it would fly out of the dealers, but at that price it will only be bankers that will be happy to pay the brand markup to look that good sat outside a posh coffee shop.
There's a recurring theme with reviews of modern adventure motorcycles with 21" wheels, everyone is saying "it doesn't feel or behave like 21" wheels". I am a relatively new rider with very little experience on adventure motorcycles, but maybe it is something that is from older motorcycles?
You’re right. When riding with high speeds, the larger the wheel, the slower the turn in of the bike. There is a massive difference when transitioning from side to side in the twisties. With a slow steering bike, you have to push harder when counter-steering because the bike wants to stay upright. That is one of the appeals of a 21 inch front wheel when riding offroad, through sand for example. However people don’t like this on the road. So they started to change the geometry of these bikes so that it turns easier and faster with a big wheel. However by doing this, defeating one of the purposes of having that larger wheel. You loose some stability offroad. In this sense, the recent bikes are different from older bikes. Other purposes like easier rolling over obstacles and the availability of more aggressive offroad tires stay intact. 21 inch fronts are also narrower than 19 or 17 inch wheels and that has advantages in sand, mud and deep loose gravel, but the latter have a bigger contact patch that provide more grip on wet cold roads for example.
I am admittedly, an Italian fanboy with MV being top of the heap for me. No electronic suspension at that price point??? Are the wheels tubeless? No adjustment on the windscreen? As others have said this fits more in the 15 to 17 K range USD.
I have mixed feelings about this bike. MV stands (stood?) for Motorcycle Art. One could easily see what that meant. Sculptures on two wheels. With this bike however, I struggle seeing that. It happened what I feared most to see - a KTM-ish version of MV. Look at the exhaust, the display and the overall design.
If somebody said to you, don’t worry about the cost, you can have this MV, or a Multi V4s, or a GS1300, (or something similar of a similar ilk) and if they were all the same price, and all affordable, then which one would you choose?
@@UncleWally3 interesting response and context. V-Strom certainly a good bike, expect with good reliability, but taking the barrier of cost entirely out of the decision, you’d still pick the suzuki over all the other options?
@@alanprice9938 Well, my main bike is an Africa Twin but I have the ‘Strom as a great spare. Personally, I can’t think of a bike I don’t enjoy riding . . .
@@tobanhoffmann8347 Met a fellow riding a Bergman in Atlantic Canada riding from California on his way back home to Texas. Met another fellow that was slaying Tail of the Dragon in Deal’s Gap on a Burgman; couldn’t keep up with him. Now that was a hit in the hubris . . .
Seems that the direct comparison to be made is the Triumph Tiger 900, both being triples with ~900 CCs, but the Tiger barely gets a mention. Anyone know the firing order is for the MV?
The critical question for me (I'm an older, experienced rider) is, has MV finally made a solid, reliable bike? Their sports bikes have been very exciting, involving, 'emotional' rides - that hasn't been a problem. However, needing to get repairs done (and sourcing parts!) after less than 10K miles - on a premium-priced vehicle - is just unacceptable! At this point, I can only ride a bike with an upright, 'open' riding position (and I have no interest in bloated 'touring' models) - that makes ADVs my first choice. The problem (or, question) is - when are the European manufacturers going to get their production-processes together?
I don't think these are pitched at the everyday rider. MV are still a small concern and reliable or not, parts are less likely to be quickly available than the Japanese or even Triumph and KTM. Soul and emotion in a vehicle is entirely down the the individual rider's perception.
@@kugangles9860 Hmm, Had no trouble on my F3 800 2014 model with 35000km, never got stranded on my trips, maybe lucky or the bikes are better than it's reputaion?
With what price? I think it’s going to be flop and I doubt that will se one in the road because they will be so rare. Yes it’s appealing but the África twin is just if not more beautiful more than enough engine more than enough tech and cheaper.. with that money difference I would ride a lot of kms
What i think? I think you did not mention a suspension,anty dive maybie,is it electronic or whats going on. Just don t tell me that for that kibd of money you don t get anything?
Is this not a Tracer 9gt with a 21" front wheel and bigger suspension for another 10k ? .. Cmon Yamaha , bring out the Tenere 900 already and show em how its done.
Not convinced you'll be able to get parts for it in 5 to 10 years. Or it will take months. MV have left 4 cylinder bike owners up a tree on that front.
If it’s no good offroad and overpriced for offroad, why not having all the fun on a street-oriented bike instead, then, the veloce or a 19” version, lower, like a mini pikes-peak. A “touring” supermoto… When I look at the price, I’d love to have a MV, but I actually do not want a tourer that makes me a traffic racer. I’m too fast on my Indian Chieftain already, let alone having such a weapon. So for all terrain traveling for non-tarmac that I wouldn’t put my Indian through (it does a lot, well did already with 98tkm since 2019) I’m more in favor of a AT1100, a GS1xx0, even a Guzziv85tt and buy a F3 instead for real road fun.
@@vvevvevvvv I am an old fart. I have ridden more bikes than you can name. That's why I say what I say. Go and ride EVERYTHING on the market, and then ride a GS and come back to me and say what you think.
Far too expensive, power you don't really need, too heavy a dealer network would be needed which limits its adventure capabilities. There are far better choices for a real adventure bike, which may be less powerful but have better support internationally.
This guy is on so many different channels where is chris? Ps bike is too expensive for what it is. Another Italian brand with a huge mark up plus not many dealers around
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Husqvarna Norden 901 all day every day.... 24kg lighter than Veloce and more torque at lower RPM. Norden with Arrow midle pipe is just great sounding bike
Exactly!I rode 901 through half of Africa and it was just fantastic!
Love your enthusiasm Chad, after all these years its nice to see someone still excited by their job.
Given the price and probable lack of off-roading use by the vast majority of owners surely a 19" front wheel would have made more sense? Wet and cold northern european roads would benefit from a bigger contact patch with the obvious benefit of turn in speed.
That engine sounds great! MV hopefully has improved their reliability game.
Maybe with KTM backing they will...oh wait! 😀
Italian bikes (Ducati, Moto Guzzi, MV, and Aprilia) are awesome…when they work. Reliability and maintenance is simply not worth the trouble in long run.
Are all Italian motorcycle unreliable? How about the German motorcycles,i.e., BMW? BMW has had major issues with their shaft drives for over a decade. Then there was that major issue with their telelever front suspension. Do these issues count towards making BMWs less reliable or what? I've always owned Japanese motorcycles myself and I have found them to be utterly reliable. However, I have been looking at the bikes from both Ducati and MV Augusta and they do look very appealing.
BS @@LooxJJ
@@LooxJJ well, nowadays, I think it is more of a legend than facts.
The price I got in Australia is $37,892 but I'm still keen for it.
Love Italian bikes and ride a Multi but MVs are so rare on British roads. Apart from the cost, dealer back up, reliability issues etc. they are not popular despite their looks, it’s a shame but I can’t see this changing anytime soon…
As a MV Agusta F3 800 owner and a Triumph 1200 Explorer I can see that this bike is like Range Rover, that can go offroad without making a fool of it self and then cruise to southern Italy with no hassle. A MPV bike for cumuting and then pack it up go for a holiday. Just like my old Land Rover 🙂
It looks like the Triumph might be replaced
fair and engaging review of a unique bike - well done!
At £14k-£16k it would fly out of the dealers, but at that price it will only be bankers that will be happy to pay the brand markup to look that good sat outside a posh coffee shop.
I think these are the same beautiful Excel rims that are on my 2009 Moto Guzzi Stelvio
There's a recurring theme with reviews of modern adventure motorcycles with 21" wheels, everyone is saying "it doesn't feel or behave like 21" wheels".
I am a relatively new rider with very little experience on adventure motorcycles, but maybe it is something that is from older motorcycles?
You’re right. When riding with high speeds, the larger the wheel, the slower the turn in of the bike. There is a massive difference when transitioning from side to side in the twisties. With a slow steering bike, you have to push harder when counter-steering because the bike wants to stay upright. That is one of the appeals of a 21 inch front wheel when riding offroad, through sand for example. However people don’t like this on the road. So they started to change the geometry of these bikes so that it turns easier and faster with a big wheel. However by doing this, defeating one of the purposes of having that larger wheel. You loose some stability offroad. In this sense, the recent bikes are different from older bikes.
Other purposes like easier rolling over obstacles and the availability of more aggressive offroad tires stay intact. 21 inch fronts are also narrower than 19 or 17 inch wheels and that has advantages in sand, mud and deep loose gravel, but the latter have a bigger contact patch that provide more grip on wet cold roads for example.
Wonder if it has Yamaha CP3 characteristics, but in the 41cc larger format. Bike weighs (claimed) within 1 lb of the Tracer 9 GT+.
It sounds divine
Thank you for the Great review. can you post the test ride location in Sardinia ?
We’ll ask Chad
Thank god for Chad! One of the last hopes in motorcycle journalism
Love the Chad
I am admittedly, an Italian fanboy with MV being top of the heap for me. No electronic suspension at that price point??? Are the wheels tubeless? No adjustment on the windscreen? As others have said this fits more in the 15 to 17 K range USD.
Professional holiday maybe? Easy enough to mod a desert X to do similar I reckon and still have a few grand in change ......
Awesome bike.
Awesome video! Beautiful bike and sounds great. The price just doesn't make any sense at all. Best!
I have mixed feelings about this bike. MV stands (stood?) for Motorcycle Art. One could easily see what that meant. Sculptures on two wheels. With this bike however, I struggle seeing that. It happened what I feared most to see - a KTM-ish version of MV. Look at the exhaust, the display and the overall design.
If somebody said to you, don’t worry about the cost, you can have this MV, or a Multi V4s, or a GS1300, (or something similar of a similar ilk) and if they were all the same price, and all affordable, then which one would you choose?
As a cure for hubris I’d choose a V-Strom and ride it around the world . . .
@@UncleWally3 interesting response and context. V-Strom certainly a good bike, expect with good reliability, but taking the barrier of cost entirely out of the decision, you’d still pick the suzuki over all the other options?
@@UncleWally3 why stop there, do it on a suzuki Bergman
@@alanprice9938 Well, my main bike is an Africa Twin but I have the ‘Strom as a great spare. Personally, I can’t think of a bike I don’t enjoy riding . . .
@@tobanhoffmann8347 Met a fellow riding a Bergman in Atlantic Canada riding from California on his way back home to Texas. Met another fellow that was slaying Tail of the Dragon in Deal’s Gap on a Burgman; couldn’t keep up with him. Now that was a hit in the hubris . . .
Love how it looks , sounds amazing,too expensive,I’d go for New BMW or the Tiger 1200 for that money
Seems that the direct comparison to be made is the Triumph Tiger 900, both being triples with ~900 CCs, but the Tiger barely gets a mention. Anyone know the firing order is for the MV?
But he did mention it.
It sound like 240 degree firing order. Crankpin offset by 120 degrees
@@BikeWorldTVshow Indeed he did.
great bike for lovers
Are they tubeless tyres? I had tubes in my Street Scrambler and it was difficult when I got a puncture.
Yes, tubeless
Nice with nice features, but it should be priced with the middleweights like the Honda AT or the KTM 890 and so on.
The critical question for me (I'm an older, experienced rider) is, has MV finally made a solid, reliable bike? Their sports bikes have been very exciting, involving, 'emotional' rides - that hasn't been a problem. However, needing to get repairs done (and sourcing parts!) after less than 10K miles - on a premium-priced vehicle - is just unacceptable! At this point, I can only ride a bike with an upright, 'open' riding position (and I have no interest in bloated 'touring' models) - that makes ADVs my first choice. The problem (or, question) is - when are the European manufacturers going to get their production-processes together?
You might be 90% of the way there with a Yamaha Tracer 9GT+.
I don't think these are pitched at the everyday rider.
MV are still a small concern and reliable or not, parts are less likely to be quickly available than the Japanese or even Triumph and KTM.
Soul and emotion in a vehicle is entirely down the the individual rider's perception.
The new Starbucks’ preferred transportation device.
Does it come with a latte cup holder... asking for a friend ¬_¬
@@cpuuk A fine Italian one for a thousand extra euros :)
I wouldn't trust it to take it anywhere else
@@kugangles9860 Hmm, Had no trouble on my F3 800 2014 model with 35000km, never got stranded on my trips, maybe lucky or the bikes are better than it's reputaion?
When MV best effort in design is a XTZ1200, 10 years after. I'm not even kidding. Lokk at the original, switch the colors and that's it.
i understand they need to save weight have have simplicity, but i just don't want to deal with chains anymore.
What's the suspension?
Sacks
With what price? I think it’s going to be flop and I doubt that will se one in the road because they will be so rare. Yes it’s appealing but the África twin is just if not more beautiful more than enough engine more than enough tech and cheaper.. with that money difference I would ride a lot of kms
What i think? I think you did not mention a suspension,anty dive maybie,is it electronic or whats going on. Just don t tell me that for that kibd of money you don t get anything?
Please press releases/reviews are always biased, I’ll wait till you guys get your hands on the bike for more than a few hours.
Assuming this bike will be available world-wide, there's enough people on the planet with more money than sense that will snap this up.
Nice bike!!! ..... Shame about the price ... 😕
In my country a tenere 700 is 21K. The MV probably will arrive at 38K 😢😢😢
what currency? US dollars, your money, GBP?
Looks just like…Honda Africa Twin.
Looks good but too expensive
As long as you ride where AAA can still pick you up you'll be fine.
225KG Heavy ? Say that to my 800X at 260KG without any panniers haha
Is this not a Tracer 9gt with a 21" front wheel and bigger suspension for another 10k ? .. Cmon Yamaha , bring out the Tenere 900 already and show em how its done.
Best handling??? My Tenere: hold my beer😂 . That engine sounds exactly like a Daytona 955i , ask me how i know it...
he didn't say bmw at the beggining because he knows bmw is the best
✌🏻😊
Not convinced you'll be able to get parts for it in 5 to 10 years. Or it will take months. MV have left 4 cylinder bike owners up a tree on that front.
definitely NO with that price just get a gs ridiculous pricing
If it’s no good offroad and overpriced for offroad, why not having all the fun on a street-oriented bike instead, then, the veloce or a 19” version, lower, like a mini pikes-peak. A “touring” supermoto…
When I look at the price, I’d love to have a MV, but I actually do not want a tourer that makes me a traffic racer. I’m too fast on my Indian Chieftain already, let alone having such a weapon. So for all terrain traveling for non-tarmac that I wouldn’t put my Indian through (it does a lot, well did already with 98tkm since 2019) I’m more in favor of a AT1100, a GS1xx0, even a Guzziv85tt and buy a F3 instead for real road fun.
If it's not the best 'Off Road', then why not buy a Turismo Veloce????
This is the bike Yamaha, should have made,a 900 tenere.
Looks like an Africa Twin.
Blasphemy! AT way better looking
looks more heavy and ugly for me...
I agree. There’s a resemblance though. The AT is better looking.
Its too expensive. I'd rather have a Desert X (it looks better too IMO)
MV has come a long way from the v twin cruiser segment.
Not too difficult bearing in mind that they've never made a V-twin cruiser!
@0:39, omitting the BEST Adventure bike of all time, the benchmark. The BMW GS, NOTHING comes close to a GS.
Lol. BMW is for old farts.
@@vvevvevvvv I am an old fart.
I have ridden more bikes than you can name. That's why I say what I say. Go and ride EVERYTHING on the market, and then ride a GS and come back to me and say what you think.
@@vvevvevvvv its not for poor people so don't even bother.
@@MrKaataan you have definitely tried to hard
Far too expensive..
Far too expensive, power you don't really need, too heavy a dealer network would be needed which limits its adventure capabilities. There are far better choices for a real adventure bike, which may be less powerful but have better support internationally.
This guy is on so many different channels where is chris?
Ps bike is too expensive for what it is. Another Italian brand with a huge mark up plus not many dealers around
Transalp😂….
Far too expensive.