I never really considered the Multistrada considering the reliability/reputation of the 1250GS. However since the GS went to the ugly school this has now landed on my radar. Thanks for the video Chad!
@@KudosfromamsterdamI love stupid comments like “Ive had a bike for 30 months and it hasn’t broken.” Yeah, I should hope not, for a bike that costs more than a Honda Civic. My Multistrada blew the con rod bearings after 29k miles. How’s that for “issues?”
@@aluisiousWhat have you done to that bike when it came to something like that? My Multistrada has 57k km and I had no problems ever. Ride it sensibly and it will last.
@@aluisious stupid comment when I am simply sharing my personal experience? How stupid are you to call me out and then state you broke your bike? get off your high horse
Always a fan of Ducati when it comes to touring machines (Hyperstrada, Multistrada) for 2 reasons: - parking during rainy season and enjoy the exhibition 😊 - enjoying the ride during dry season or occasional weekend short trips ❤
I think the improvements in rider and passenger ergonomics along with rear cylinders cut-off (following the V4 Rally) will significantly improve the touring experience, especially in boosting tank range. One thing I wish Ducati would consider is the steep rise in shop labor rates, at least in the U.S., bringing the parts and labor cost of adding heated grips after-sale to about $900. I presume the internal cost of installing the heated grips during manufacturing would be minuscule in comparison and would eliminate a negative for reviewers to point out. Also, I find all phone compartments to be fairly useless, considering the large phones now in use, the continuing heat issues, and the number of alternatives for phone mounting or carrying.
The modes can be configured to your liking so touring and sport can be quite close; I only changed the suspension so i can use that on bad roads and for the rest I ride in sport. urban is my really wet mode ( 2022 V4S)
I think the little tweaks are interesting but the deal breaker/maker will be the mileage. I have a ‘22 V4 PP and I knew the economy issue before I bought but it still shocks me when I work out the mpg.
I have a 22 V4s and am back in the market for a new bike so was holding off on that waiting for the first reviews of the reworked MTS but I am a bit dissapointed to be honest, after nealry 4 years it is having a few software tweaks and a sinking shock as the big update. It's just not worth considering changing mine for it so the search goes on.
The white one sitting behind him is beautiful and reminds me of my excellent 2010 Multistrada 1200. I would be in line to buy one, if my Desert-X experience hadn't soured me on new Ducatis. One thing that I never hear the Journos discuss, is the annoying and expensive annual service triggers that light up the dash of the new Ducatis. Sure, you can do your own service ( the warranty is useless anyway), but you must pay to turn the warnings off. And while I had the Desert-X, nobody had the hack worked out. I put this money grab in the same camp as the subscription models that KTM recently tried.
@phillipsmith1489 similarly, if you buy and install the overpriced Ducati heated grips yourself, you still have to pay the dealer to connect and activate them. Are you telling me, that the bike shouldn't be able to recognize that it has factory heated grips now, and the button should work? After owning several Ducks, I'll be sitting on the sidelines until they decide to treat their customers better.
I tried the 1290 sas before the multi it had the hottest engine in the world and considering how people harp on about the lc8 the multi engine is pretty much stronger everywhere
There won't be a software anything sent to the 2022 models just like there wasn't when they released the Rally. Ducati wants you to go out and by this brand new $30k bike that depreciates by 50% in 1 year.
100% I was going to buy a Multistrada this time last year. Then I rode a Tracer9 GT+ and bought it! Wgat a bike the T🎉racer9 is and what a motor! It's a real world bike. Did I mention I am very happy with my Tracer9? ❤❤❤
My point wasn't which engine is leaps and bounds better, more powerful, more capable, sounds better, or makes a cappuccino every ride. My point was what in the world do you actually need in a ride in this category, and what makes stupid Ducati prices worth spending way up in diminished-return zone. And that's just the start. What about insurance, fuel, oil, Ducati service rates, tire wear, dealer availability, long term reliability? Like I said, gucci brand with more power than anyone will use 90% of the time.
@@exothermal.sprocket owning the yam and the Ducati the Ducati comes out the garage a lot more often because it’s just better 😂 but yes it loves a drink and the insurance is 3 times the yam 😂
I can’t afford these bikes tbh , booked a himalayan 450 to start my adventure journey hope in future to buy one if i found it worth of what if offers btw kudos nice content man 👍🏻
For the amount of people that can afford to buy the top spec Ducati's, they could remove the journalists and just send anyone with a deposit on the launch reviews!
I'm looking at this motorbike and thinking, the amount of 'stuff' you have to remove from this bike before you even start servicing it is enormous. That means way more time and money in labour/servicing costs. The Diavel being probably the worst, but this doesn't look any better. Appears they’re making it harder to go to independent servicing centres after the warranty expires.
So if the preload comes off the rear suspension when the bike comes to a stop, is the length of the side stand an issue, either when that function is enabled or disabled?
Where's the cup holders ? They've given us stuff we never wanted, didnt need and hardly ever use. Middle aged men with cash to burn wont save the bike industry. Without PCP the industry would have been on it's knees years ago. Could the future be simple bikes with speedo, rev counter and ABS. What a nightmare that would be on a sunny day on a twisty road without a TFT to stare at.
My 30 year old honda cbr 900 rr rides perfectly fine without feul Injection and all the other electronic crapp The clutch and the breaks needs a firm hand and the gearbox is clunky , you feel the vibes of the engine and needs to be above 6000 rpm to haul ass but it gives me more pleasure than all these computer controlled and to boringly dull perfected overpriced toys
@@marinusk67 Every decade there are people who are going to say "my X year old motorcycle runs perfectly fine without that new X crap tech". They'll say this in 2030. They'll say this in 2040. They'll say this in 2050. That is if motorcycles continue to exist. Now, that's not to say I'm happy with the trends in the last 15-20 years. I think there's a conspiracy to keep manufacturers just as profitable as previously, while motorcycles haven't actually changed in any significant way except become incredibly regulated and stuffy.
I never really considered the Multistrada considering the reliability/reputation of the 1250GS. However since the GS went to the ugly school this has now landed on my radar. Thanks for the video Chad!
Thanks for watching
I have a multi V4S for 30 months and no issues whatsoever, loving the bike for 30k kms now
@@KudosfromamsterdamI love stupid comments like “Ive had a bike for 30 months and it hasn’t broken.” Yeah, I should hope not, for a bike that costs more than a Honda Civic.
My Multistrada blew the con rod bearings after 29k miles. How’s that for “issues?”
@@aluisiousWhat have you done to that bike when it came to something like that? My Multistrada has 57k km and I had no problems ever. Ride it sensibly and it will last.
@@aluisious stupid comment when I am simply sharing my personal experience? How stupid are you to call me out and then state you broke your bike? get off your high horse
Always a fan of Ducati when it comes to touring machines (Hyperstrada, Multistrada) for 2 reasons:
- parking during rainy season and enjoy the exhibition 😊
- enjoying the ride during dry season or occasional weekend short trips ❤
I think the improvements in rider and passenger ergonomics along with rear cylinders cut-off (following the V4 Rally) will significantly improve the touring experience, especially in boosting tank range. One thing I wish Ducati would consider is the steep rise in shop labor rates, at least in the U.S., bringing the parts and labor cost of adding heated grips after-sale to about $900. I presume the internal cost of installing the heated grips during manufacturing would be minuscule in comparison and would eliminate a negative for reviewers to point out. Also, I find all phone compartments to be fairly useless, considering the large phones now in use, the continuing heat issues, and the number of alternatives for phone mounting or carrying.
The modes can be configured to your liking so touring and sport can be quite close; I only changed the suspension so i can use that on bad roads and for the rest I ride in sport. urban is my really wet mode ( 2022 V4S)
I think the little tweaks are interesting but the deal breaker/maker will be the mileage. I have a ‘22 V4 PP and I knew the economy issue before I bought but it still shocks me when I work out the mpg.
The new cylinder deactivation will kick in even while moving, whereas the old version only worked at stoplights. Will that help at all?
@@youtubeaccount9058 it might. We’ll see what the real world numbers are at.
Did you play with the engine braking control. The current v4s can be quite abrupt
I have a 22 V4s and am back in the market for a new bike so was holding off on that waiting for the first reviews of the reworked MTS but I am a bit dissapointed to be honest, after nealry 4 years it is having a few software tweaks and a sinking shock as the big update. It's just not worth considering changing mine for it so the search goes on.
I agree. Just press the suspension button for 2 sec and you have the sinking shock as well. i will not ‘upgrade’ my ‘22 V4S neither
Si the "new" v4s is a 2024 rally without the 30 liters fuel tank!
The white one sitting behind him is beautiful and reminds me of my excellent 2010 Multistrada 1200. I would be in line to buy one, if my Desert-X experience hadn't soured me on new Ducatis.
One thing that I never hear the Journos discuss, is the annoying and expensive annual service triggers that light up the dash of the new Ducatis. Sure, you can do your own service ( the warranty is useless anyway), but you must pay to turn the warnings off. And while I had the Desert-X, nobody had the hack worked out. I put this money grab in the same camp as the subscription models that KTM recently tried.
It is outrageous to pay this much for a bike and get stuck looking at a service now icon forever.
@phillipsmith1489 similarly, if you buy and install the overpriced Ducati heated grips yourself, you still have to pay the dealer to connect and activate them. Are you telling me, that the bike shouldn't be able to recognize that it has factory heated grips now, and the button should work? After owning several Ducks, I'll be sitting on the sidelines until they decide to treat their customers better.
New KTM, new Ducati, new GS... hard to choose for 2025, but I will go with the KTM.
I tried the 1290 sas before the multi it had the hottest engine in the world and considering how people harp on about the lc8 the multi engine is pretty much stronger everywhere
Thanks for the video Chad.
2022 V4s owner here - do you know if there is going to be a software update offered for the earlier bikes ?
Cheers
There won't be a software anything sent to the 2022 models just like there wasn't when they released the Rally. Ducati wants you to go out and by this brand new $30k bike that depreciates by 50% in 1 year.
It's a very different power level, but I'm not sure a Multi V4S is worth the piles more money over a Tracer 9 GT+ in overall experience.
100% I was going to buy a Multistrada this time last year. Then I rode a Tracer9 GT+ and bought it! Wgat a bike the T🎉racer9 is and what a motor! It's a real world bike. Did I mention I am very happy with my Tracer9? ❤❤❤
I have a mt09 sp and a multi v4s 2022 the multi engine is leaps and bounds better than the triple no contest
My point wasn't which engine is leaps and bounds better, more powerful, more capable, sounds better, or makes a cappuccino every ride. My point was what in the world do you actually need in a ride in this category, and what makes stupid Ducati prices worth spending way up in diminished-return zone. And that's just the start. What about insurance, fuel, oil, Ducati service rates, tire wear, dealer availability, long term reliability? Like I said, gucci brand with more power than anyone will use 90% of the time.
@@exothermal.sprocket owning the yam and the Ducati the Ducati comes out the garage a lot more often because it’s just better 😂 but yes it loves a drink and the insurance is 3 times the yam 😂
@@DucatiDale You don't need me to validate your Ducati purchase. "Better" is subjective.
Nice updates to new Multistrada can wait comparison test GS1300, KTM 1390 Adventure and Multistrada ❤❤❤
Was hoping Ducati would change the gearing for 5/6th gear to run lower rpms at 80 mph?
I can’t afford these bikes tbh , booked a himalayan 450 to start my adventure journey hope in future to buy one if i found it worth of what if offers btw kudos nice content man 👍🏻
I have one and it doesn’t matter what you ride, the himi will get you exactly the same place as mine just enjoy riding whatever you buy 👍
For the amount of people that can afford to buy the top spec Ducati's, they could remove the journalists and just send anyone with a deposit on the launch reviews!
Hi Chad, you mentioned in your intro about the auto lowering but didn’t say how you found it? Being shorter than you 🤷♀️ ta
So luigi and guissepe didn't get au and ag mixed up this time? Grazia.
I'm looking at this motorbike and thinking, the amount of 'stuff' you have to remove from this bike before you even start servicing it is enormous. That means way more time and money in labour/servicing costs. The Diavel being probably the worst, but this doesn't look any better. Appears they’re making it harder to go to independent servicing centres after the warranty expires.
So if the preload comes off the rear suspension when the bike comes to a stop, is the length of the side stand an issue, either when that function is enabled or disabled?
The Chad 😎
“It does come up in third.”
Yeah… that’s enough power.
They need to add the 30L tank to Touring model, at the very least.
That’s a rally then 😀
I fastforwarded to avoid the grim Hi NRG trance
@@paulbarker5915 Trance?
Has Chris lost his passport or something, he never gets the sunny trips!
Excellent beautiful Explanation i am the first to watch on u Tube
Want a blue Peter badge?
@@inked-96he obviously wants some sort of medal, I can probably think of a few……
@IanOwens-s8w Hahahaha, I agree. There are plenty of 'special' medals to be had for people like that, lol.
Cylinder deactivation, no, yester year cars had this and those engines wore out
Where's the cup holders ?
They've given us stuff we never wanted, didnt need and hardly ever use.
Middle aged men with cash to burn wont save the bike industry. Without PCP the industry would have been on it's knees years ago.
Could the future be simple bikes with speedo, rev counter and ABS.
What a nightmare that would be on a sunny day on a twisty road without a TFT to stare at.
Don't want to fiddle whit electronics.
Just want to ride
And god knows Chad needs a second brain 😂
"coming down from sports bikes", really?
Reverse Vtech
Riding a robot
ludicrous bike
Who's buying these battleships?
Electronic bullshit. Real riders dont need that.
😂
Except the fuel injection electronic stuff. You kind of need that.
My 30 year old honda cbr 900 rr rides perfectly fine without feul Injection and all the other electronic crapp
The clutch and the breaks needs a firm hand and the gearbox is clunky , you feel the vibes of the engine and needs to be above 6000 rpm to haul ass but it gives me more pleasure than all these computer controlled and to boringly dull perfected overpriced toys
@@marinusk67 Every decade there are people who are going to say "my X year old motorcycle runs perfectly fine without that new X crap tech". They'll say this in 2030. They'll say this in 2040. They'll say this in 2050. That is if motorcycles continue to exist.
Now, that's not to say I'm happy with the trends in the last 15-20 years. I think there's a conspiracy to keep manufacturers just as profitable as previously, while motorcycles haven't actually changed in any significant way except become incredibly regulated and stuffy.
ok boomer