HONDA HRN216 VS HONDA HRX217 - WHICH LAWN MOWER SHOULD YOU BUY?
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HONDA HRN216 VS HONDA HRX217 - WHICH LAWN MOWER SHOULD YOU BUY? The Honda HRN216VKA LAWN MOWER comes with a GCV170cc ENGINE, a STEEL DECK, PLASTIC WHEELS and the SMART DRIVE SELF PROPELLED DRIVE SYSTEM. The Honda HRX217VKA comes with a GCV200cc ENGINE, a PLASTIC NEXITE DECK, RUBBER WHEELS with BALL BEARINGS, a CLIP DIRECTOR and a SELECT DRIVE SELF PROPELLED DRIVE SYSTEM. I also go over the FEATURES, CONSTRUCTION, and BUILD QUALITY of each mower. Which MOWER and FEATURES are BEST for YOUR LAWN? LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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I love these side by side comparisons. Can't really go wrong with either of these mowers.
Really can’t! Appreciate the feedback Smallblock! Have an awesome weekend bud!
I've had my HRX 217 for over 12 years now, and it's still going strong.
The only issues I had with this model initially, was starting. I opted for the electric/key start feature.
This turned out to be a no-go. After experiencing failures of the electric start and/or the pull start to work and exchanging the mower for another one, ( several times through the Home Depot I purchased the first mower at, plus having the starter worked on by a local Honda outdoor shop, ) I resigned myself to the fact that at least electric start was not in the cards for me. I had a mower with everything else working great on it, so I stuck with that.
I eventually discovered another local shop that specialized in lawn equipment and was an authorized Honda service center. They've been really great all these years for servicing my Honda.
Despite the initial headaches I had with my Honda mower, I wouldn't choose any other brand.
Thanks for sharing! This is good to know and helpful for others contemplating buying a Honda.
I have the key start, I find myself having to pull the string more often than turn the key to start. you really have to charge the battery to use the key
I run both Honda's for my lawn care business. My HRN is now 6 years old and has never had one issue besides tire wear, all I have to do is Oil,Air Filter,Spark Plug Blades changes every couple months , I inspect the drive belts annually along with the wheels. I might look into your trick with the bike tire as I have a couple spare sets laying around. My HRX is 3 years old and it just keeps chugging, just the normal minor maintenance. I do clean the decks on both and the HRX Deck stays far cleaner than the HRN. Only Issues I have run into with both of them is with the mulch slides they tend to get stuck if you do not clean them out regularly. I plan on finally replacing the HRN with another HRX soon but I will keep the HRN for Home Duties. Instead of the 217VYA I am gonna step up to the Hydrostatic Drive of the HYA. or I might jump ship and go with the New Stihl RM 756 YC it has a lot of awesome features like Magnesium Deck with a Polymer liner and a Kohler 200cc Engine with a oil filter. I need to talk to my dealer and see if they have a demo model to test out before making that $2000 purchase.
@@MichaelSmith-kr9qw awesome! Keep me posted if you grab that stihl mower Michael!
Do you notice when mowing that excessive grass is coming out of the back/chute even when the lever is all the way to the right and the chute is supposed to be blocked? I find it leaves clippings behind, which my 10 year old Troy-Bilt TB230 didn't do. Seems the thing underneath the deck is supposed to block the chute but I can see light/space where it isn't blocked.
I just purchased the HRX217HYA at my local Honda Powersports dealer. They matched the Home Depot sale price of $799 mentioned in another comment. I based my decision off of many reviews including yours and also the fact that it is the only decent mower left with a blade brake clutch.
I used it for the first time today in a 50/50 mulch/bag configuration. Nice clean cut and the hydrostatic is smooth. Loved being able to empty the bag and not have to restart the mower yet still do it safely as the blade is stopped.
The only issue I have is that the valve cover has a small oil leak. It might not have been sealed properly when the cam issue was fixed. I also think the blade doesn’t stop fast enough, but not having used one before, I have no point of reference.
I will now be cleaning up my John Deere JS40 that has served me well for 18 years and will be selling it. It’s time for someone else to enjoy it.
Use the warranty while you have it they will fix it at no cost
@@ivanguzman9156 I will be contacting the dealer after the holiday. I will bring it in for them to repair, or, if Honda will be so willing, they can just set me up with a tube of Hondabond and a service manual. I’ve been working on small engines since I was 9 or 10.
Hey Bobby I would have them look at it under warranty
Thanks for all of the great videos. I own an 11-year old Husqvarna HU800 AWD (with Honda motor). Been going through it replacing parts. Got new wheels, dust covers, need a new blade adaptor as nipple star ring shattered when I went to sharpen the blade. It needs a new belt which is a job I am not looking forward to as the mower is at the age such that when you take things apart they do not want to go back together. Watched your video about the last of the Honda mowers. Thought about it a lot and headed off to Home Depot early this morning to snap up a Honda HRN for less than $600 on sale. Just put it together based on your specs. It's a nice mower. It could be more heavy duty but I can't complain at the price. And it's the last of the Honda mowers so get 'em while you can. I checked for the green dot based on your video. Much appreciated. Celebrated by buying a Garage Gear tee shirt. I enjoy your content as it is educational, on point and isn't pandering to the algorithm with a bikini clad sidekick. I like my lawn. neat and tidy. Not as fancy as yours but it's ship shape. I do struggle with when to let go of an older piece of lawn equipment. I may be guilty of putting money into them at the end of its life but after 11 years the Husqvarna doesn't owe me anything and there is a lot to be learned from a veteran mower.
You got it Joseph! Some mowers can be a lot of work as they age. Enjoy your new mower! Appreciate your kind words and thank you for supporting the channel! 👍
Both have exactly the same blade systems so both cut grass awesomely.
Only important features HRX has over the HRN is incrementally adjustable bag/mulch lever rather than only one or other and better quality wheels. It does have a bigger engine, but both engines are great for normal yards so I don’t think its a massively noticeable difference unless your mowing long lawns all the time.
On the other hand its heavier, its harder to pull backwards due to its drive system design, has plastic deck, has corner adjusters for height which are more annoying and a weird round knob to adjust speed so no feathering the speed controller when manoeuvring like you can in the cheaper model.
Both are great machines but I dont see the extra cost justified with the HRX and prefer the HRN. Thats just me though.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Like you, I have the HRN and it works just fine.
I have both mowers which are very reliable for sure. I like the hrn for the light weight. You can't go wrong with a honda.
I bought my HRX in 2008 and it starts and mows just as good as it did when new.
Can’t beat em!
Just got the HRX217. Really nice mower. Feels solid. Love how the self propelled is so fast if needed. Nice engine too. I don't like that the deck is so long/wide and sticks out to/past the wheels. Also, it shoots out mulch out of the back when I don't have the bag on, and I can see that the lever is all the way to the right but the chute isn't fully blocked when I pull up the flap.. Seems like a manufacturer defect. My 10 year old toro doesn't leave grass out the back, but this does. I might try sharpening the blades, as I just got it, or I might make something to block grass from entering the chute when mulching and maybe tape off the areas I can see light coming through. For such a nice/expensive mower, it shouldn't have this issue. I've read about this a lot online too, after purchasing of course.
@@StlPike2004 thanks for sharing this pike!
HRN is the best lawnmower I ever own !!!
Thanks for sharing dewayne!
I love my older HRX
Awesome mower! 👍
I have 2 HRX models which I use commercially. The 200 cc engine is unstoppable, no comparison. I have cut grass 4 feet high, that is the truth. I set it at the highest setting and the slowest pace. It is incredible how it chews it up and don't bog out. After the 4" cut, I run over it again to clean it up. My HRX has the same transmission as the snowblower. It is incredible. It can crawl at a snail pace or you can trot to keep up.
The only thing I noticed, that you didn't mention was the valve cover on the HRX. Both of mine started to weep oil in a very short period, the ES model lost the spring that holds the forward motion handle in place. The 3rd thing was the speed cable had to be adjusted as it had slowed down quite a bit.
It is currently June 1, 2024 in Newfoundland Canada. It has been raining for almost 2 months straight. The HRX completely packed the grass bag full and then some. The grass was very heavy.
The forward motion lever is completely different on the models that I have than the one in the video.
The HRX is an absolute beast of a mower. I wouldn't part with it. It is heavy having to haul it backward up a hill.
I purchased these Honda mowers to replace the AWD Toro models. I can honestly say 100%, Toro does not come close to the quality of the Honda HRX. 10 inches of damp grass and you will be lucky to fill the bag 1/3rd, if you can keep it from stalling out.
Love the videos, I always check to see if you have a review or maintenance tips of any lawn products I purchase.
I am on the south west corner of Canada in BC and you ate right on all points...!
I had to learn to pick up the bag with 2 hands when it's full of wet grass.
Appreciate you sharing your experience with the community my friend! Good Info for people to see!
I have both mowers and the both leaked oil from the valve cover. I had to pull both out, clean up the old sealant and put new gasket maker on both to stop the leak
Appreciate you sharing this with the community MV
I absolutely love the detail you go into without wasting time. your reviews are so streamlined and well made. thank you!!
Hey Tom! I like giving the viewer what they came to see. Thanks for being a cool fan 👍
I bought the HRX last week after watching your video comparing it against the Toro Super Recycler. I was torn, but ultimately you were the deciding factor, thanks JB!
Glad I could help you out Rick! 👍
I love my HRN216. JB would you consider doing a quick tutorial for a general tune up. Oil change and blade sharpening no problem. Carb stuff, I have no idea. Thanks Dan 🇨🇦
That’s a good idea! Thanks for sharing this! I’ll add it to the list.
I needed a mower since my Honda 216 was at the end of its life thanks to me neglecting cleaning the underside of the deck after 15 years or so. Sad to see Honda throwing in the towel here in the states. I debated getting a hrn from HD but I opted to shop small and I got a Toro Recycler MAX. The Toro is certainly no Honda but as long as it lasts for 10 or so years I’ll be happy. I’ll be cleaning the deck every cutting that’s for sure.
Thanks for sharing lj!
I love my used HRX 190 cc i got last year.....
Awesome! Thanks for sharing
is that turtle wax ceramic spray I see on the work bench? That's what I use on my stuff....
Hey Don! Yep a friend gave it to me! Use it to shine up some equipment!
My HRX was purchased new in 2003. Neighbor borrowed it and has now purchased one for himself.
@@joemcmillan2089 hahaha same thing happened with a friend of mine and my hrn! Thanks for sharing Joe!
You should test out a hrr216 I have one that lasted me 20 years so far many more to come 🎉
Specifically 2004 model
I’ll have to keep my eyes out for that!
I was wondering if I had the only HRR 216 in the world. I just picked it up for 80 bucks, and it's a great mower.
I’m really leaning on getting one of these mower’s pretty soon.
Grab one my friend! You won’t be disappointed
@@GarageGear As of today, it looks like I’ll definitely be doing some lawn mower shopping being my craftsman 6.0 mower deck is all rusted to hell.
Purchased an HRX about 4 years ago. Its been a great mower. I was am considering the Timemaster since I have a over a 1/2 acre.
I would get a rider or a zero turn and save yourself the headaches.
The Bag Mulch Lever can be Difficult to move if you have Dried Grass under the Deck
True! Best to keep it clean
One important criterion for evaluating two models from a new generation is to look at how they have evolved from their prior generations. HRX217 K5 (prior generation) is almost identical to HRX217 K6 (current generation) save for a more powerful engine in the K6 and a few aesthetics (that's why the generations are only distinguished from each other by "K#"). However, HRR216 (prior generation) has drastically gone downhill as it evolved into HRN216 (current generation). From wheels to the unibody structure, HRN216 is definitely a super cheaped-out version of HRR216. In the past, it was fairly easy for many to prefer HRR216 over HRX217 K5 mainly due to the pricing difference, and knowing that they would both last for years. But now, HRX217 K6 is many many times more durable and solid than HRN216 and is often on sale:)
@@rezanorouzian8198 thanks for sharing this my friend!
Okay, dumb question. Can u swap HRX rubber tires in place of an HRR 216? Or any other Honda mower?🤔 👍
I don’t think you can but that would make for an interesting test. The height of cut would definitely be different
Awesome video!! I know a guy trying to sell me a used one time basic HRX that he bought last fall. And now he has back problems, so he’s selling it. For $400. I already have a HRN I just bought this year and my older HRR that’s in great condition. I don’t need 3 push mowers 😂but I sure do want an HRX. Only because Honda is not going to be making anymore!! And in 10-15 years everything is going to be electric ⚡️. So I’m thinking about buying it and just put them all 3 in rotation… My wife thinks I’m crazy!! Can you tell me your thoughts 💭?? Anyone chime in please. I need some advice to tell my wife. Why I need 3 Honda mowers. lol. By the way the slip plate spray is not working very good on my mower. Grass sticks like crazy still. That’s for the great advice.
Hey my friend! Tell your wife I have 4 lawn mowers and I’m thriving lol! Many subscribers have told me they have bought another Honda and put it in storage. Perhaps consider doing that and storing it in an attic somewhere.
@@GarageGear great idea!! I’m going just start buying them all that I can find in great shape for a cheap price. Love the videos man!! Keep on grinding brother
@@AaronMcGlamery ROCK ON my friend
So I have been researching new mowers for awhile now, to replace an older one that I am just not interested in spending more money on to get back to solid working condition. The Toro 21462 22" is a strong candidate, and so is the Honda HRN model in your video. In your opinion, what would your recommend? I have reservations about buying the Honda due to them pulling out of the US market. I would hate to be at a point where either parts aren't readily available or the tail end of my warranty is in jeopardy. But I love what the Honda offers, especially hearing from other owners that love theirs. Any insight would be great.
For reference, I have a medium sized lawn. I never let it get too long. No inclines either. Very easy to navigate and maneuver around as well. Self-propelled is nice, but it isn't a feature that I absolutely need (or at least it isn't one that I need the best "version" of).
PS. Keep up the awesome work on the channel! Thoroughly enjoy the content 👍
Hey Jordan! Hondas are built better than toros in my experience. Parts should still be around for a while considering they are still made and sold overseas. Thanks for being a cool fan!
@@GarageGear That makes sense. I am starting to lean toward the Honda. Just want something that I can get some serious longevity out of, so I am not having to worry too much about it over the year. Something that proper maintenance will keep running. I appreciate response! Always nice to have channels that give sold feedback and information 👍
@@lttlejordan23 you’ll get some longevity out of that Honda. The latest toros have issues backing up. Big pain in the neck.
Also do you have any tips for keeping the inside above the blades from rusting ? Maybe put some fluid film on there ?
Fluid film works or you can coat the deck with slip plate!
@@GarageGear cool thanks man !
Love the channel. Im a push pull like of mower in places. Are these mowers suitable for that??
@@ltmdf117 yep they work fine for that! 👍thanks for being a cool fan
Wish they made a 22inch version like Toro.
That would be nice!
And a side discharge would top things off nicely.
the product info says the hrn216 holds 1 gallon, not 0.24?
@@Patrick28538 hey patrick. My commercial 21” toro has a 1 gallon gas tank. That Honda has no where close to that. It’s definitely .24👍
The vtec joke caught me off guard 😂
I have the HRN thanks to you. Best investment i did. My complaint is the lack of traction of the wheels
Hahaha still waiting for it to kick in! Throw on some bike tires for added grip! Works great
HRU216 is best, mostly because of the cast bore.
Big win there!
Love my Honda HRN216 VYAA
Thanks for sharing bryan
I have 3 HRX's, all the 190s in excellent condition. Purchased off Facebook marketplace for $100 each. People let them sit over winter and the carbs foul, hence the cheap price. I love sitting on 3k worth of mowers.
Oh wow! What a deal!
Does the HRX 217 have belt guard ? By the way great video l just subscribed.
@@CobraChipper hey cobra I believe it’s partially covered. Do you have a lot of branches that fall down in your yard? Thanks for subscribing
@@GarageGear Yes I do have some sticks I pick up the big ones and mow the little ones.The mower I have now is 12 years old so I would like to get the Honda before they are all gone. Home Depot has a sale on them for $599.00 plus 10 percent off 😮 What do you think ? Thanks for all your help.
@@GarageGear I left you the same comment on another one of your videos because I was have trouble getting back to you on this video 🤷♂️Sorry.
@@CobraChipper ok thanks for the heads up. If you pick up the sticks by hand you lessen the chance of a stick jamming up your belt. That’s really the only main concern. Get that Honda while you still can! 👍
@@GarageGear Just got back from Home Depot,I bought the Honda HRX 217 out the door for $528 with tax ! I talked the guy into giving me an extra $50 off the price. 😮
Homedepot has a sale right now. Just bought thr HRX at 599
Awesome deal!
Awesome video as always JB! ❤
One thing that came to my mind, a video that I haven't seen on your channel and one that I don't think you have done. Cleaning mower bags.. Perhaps not the funniest video to make, but you must have cleaned one sometime right?
I've been struggling twice now with my lawn tractor where the collector bag just pops "off" or open, killing the tractor.. I figured out yesterday that.. hmm, the bag was too dirty 😂😋 After cleaning it the tractor works perfect again...
Thanks for the positive feedback, my friend. I mentioned it one of my lawn mower cleaning videos in the past. You can hit it with a hose or a pressure washer in the future. You can also hang it in a fence post and rinse it that way. Glad it came clean for you and worked again. Thanks for being a cool fan as always.
"Deck suction" is important factor when choosing a mower...and a girlfriend. 🤣
Good video, JB! Glad you were able to work in another one of my one-liners. Forgot to tell you though, only the first one is free. 😝🤣
A lot of truth in that statement! lol! I actually went back and re shot that line. Fit perfectly there! Have your account manager send me a bill lol! Appreciate the humor help my friend! 👍👍
Can you put the mulch and bag half way on the hrn?
Not on the HRN! Only on the HRX
The main problem with these new GCV engines is that the entire cylinder and head are not serviceable in any way. Once the piston rings or components in the head wear out which is inevitable with how little oil is used in these engines, the entire engine is financially totaled. With what it would cost to replace those parts, you could easily buy a replacement engine for the same price. And of course there is also the plastic camshaft that is guaranteed to wear out and break after a certain amount of hours of use. And those were just the ones that didn’t have the compression release failures that effected over 400,000 units, that was the final nail in the coffin for these engines and the rest of Honda’s mower lineup. Their outdoor power equipment factory has been converted into a UTV factory where they’re building Pioneers and Talons. It’s a real shame to see what has become of them, now all we have is Briggs, Kohler, Kawasaki, and the countless number of Chinese Honda clones to power equipment now.
100% spot on here! They are plagued with their fair share of problems. I still find them to be better than most. Thanks for watching as always BCSERK!
Just bought one to replace my severe oil burning 1992ish Lawn Boy Silver Series. I loved that green thing with the staggered wheels but it was time. So glad I could snag the hrn it's such a huge upgrade for me
@@BigRobChicagoPL Honda knows how to make them my friend
How do you sharpen the dual honda blades? Can you still sharpen them on a bench grinding wheel?
You can take them right off and do it
My local home depot still have honda mowers for sale
Thanks for sharing Juan
Did anyone notice that Home Depot dropped the price on the HRX to $699?? Dang!
That’s what I heard! Thanks for sharing
I got rid of my last Honda because you couldn't change the self-propel drive belt without pulling the engine. That was a mistake on my part as the red bull I replaced it with is the worst mower I've ever owned. But I do wonder, is this one a little easier to replace consumable parts on?
Some mowers are like that where you gotta get the engine out of the way! Thanks for watching
I wish the HRX had the gxv engine
I imagine you could Mount that one on it! 👍
I just got a new house on a 1/3 of an acre with a large walkout basement 🇨🇦. I'm still trying to decide what would be the best long term investment in a mower for durability, performance and reliability? I'm leaning to the two here in your review and the Toro super recycler unless there's something better to consider? What are your recommendations and why? I keep reading mixed reviews on these Honda's and the super recycler what's the truth? (I'm not that handy yet coming from condo living so reducing repairs and easy maintenance and joy of ownership are top of mind. Thanks again for it insights
Hey gearhead! I would go with the HRX! You’ll have plenty of trouble free mows. The super recycler cuts great but has drive issues. 👍
What do you think about going the electric route with the new Toro 60v super recycler instead? I'm not setup with tools or the skillset for dyi home repairs and maintenance coming from years living the condo life
@@gearhead-do1xh you’re just asking for more problems with that battery mower. They still have the same drive system and back up issues even if they have a battery motor on top.
Thanks for your insights. Keep up the great contend ☀️
@@gearhead-do1xh appreciate you being a cool fan gearhead
Got a question for JB, I've got the HRX217 and have noticed the handle makes a loud buzzing and vibrating sound when going over bumps. I tried to tighten down the hex bolt but discovered it is welded to the frame. Any way I can quiet this?
I would check your handle bar adjusters to see if they are the problem there.
I said it before, I'll say it again:
I ❤ my old Hondas!😊
Can’t beat em dizzie!
Is it possible to put the HRX wheels on the HRN?
I don’t believe so! Definitely would affect the height of cut!
Is the electric start worth it for the Honda mower?
It’s a nice feature to have! 👍
Do you know if the HRX 217 can be stored vertically like the Toro models?
No it cannot be stored vertically!
@@GarageGear thanks! I looked all over Honda’s website and the manual. I bought one! I am sure I will like it better than the FWD Toro Super Recycler.
I saw your video on treating the mower with slip plate. I may purchase the hrx. Does the hrx nexite deck need treatment for grass buildup? Thanks
Every mower can benefit from it. Thanks for watching!
Great videos!
Thanks for all your videos! I just bought a HRX to have as my beloved Toro is working on its 23rd year. I always wanted a Honda and your videos gave me the insight to get the right one for my yard. I hope the HRX lasts as long as my Toro has.
@@ltmdf117 awesome ltmd! You’ll get plenty of years out of that Honda! 👍 enjoy the mow
My HRR216K9VYAA has a chronic problem of drive wheels locking up when pulling the mower backwards due to corrosion in the drive shaft at the bushings. Has Honda eliminated this bad design in these newer generations?
Haven’t seen issues backing up with either of these mowers!
Get the HRX while you still can - I finally fixed Honda's issue with too low Hydrostatic fluid, and NOW the machine is a little beast going up my moderate hills. Looks and feels like it's pulling just like a commercial mower now. Just make sure you have a competent dealer nearby that can do that transmission service under warranty if needed. In addition to the decompression valve fix.
Thanks for sharing Matt!
If you could only have one new mower, would it be the HRX or the Super Recycler? I've been struggling to decide for weeks.
I have both. HRX is 15 years old and cuts like the day I got it. Mulches and bags great starts with one pull. The Toro SR is another great mower. It will leave clipping when you end a run and also will leave clipping if the grass is a little taller. HRX can handle higher grass and really chews up the grass. I suggest using bagging blades on the HRX you get more lift.
The Toro SR is lighter and much easier to maneuver.
If it came down to getting rid of one I’d say the HRX. My Toro SR has the Honda engine so it should last a long time. My opinion is my 2 mower are the best 21” mowers on the market and can’t go wrong with either. Toro will be around awhile and Honda is getting out of the gas mower brand.
HRX hands down. See my previous videos on the Super Recycler
@@GarageGear Just got back from picking up an HRX and I made sure it had the green dot as well thanks to your videos. Very much appreciate your content!
@@curtstarling ROCK ON CURT! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Great comparison JB! I think you know what I chose. Haha. I’ll let you know my thoughts comparing the new one to the older one. Any plans for the holiday weekend? Cheers my friend!
Hey Jay! Thanks bud! Let me know how yours compare! Probably jumping in the pool tomorrow hopefully! How bout you bud! Grillin?
Probably grilling or smoking something tomorrow. Watching the grandsons this afternoon! Enjoy the weekend! Cheers!
@@jaybooth4815 back at ya my friend!
Are they srill making these mowers?
They are selling off remaining stock
Can you scour the neighbourhood and find someone with a Stihl gas mower for a review?
Always got eyes open! 👍
Thanks for the info!!
You got it my friend!
Home Depot has the HRX on sale for $699 on their website if anybody’s interested
Must be a Memorial Day sale ! Thanks for sharing
Damn it. I got HRXHYA for $899 with my military discount last month. Should have waited as now it would cost $719.
Tough call.
Sure is! Guess it just comes down to assessing the needs of your lawn and what youll need out of a mower!
There's only 7 left @ home depot so I bought the hrx. The hrn had 50. Hmm
Hmm….🤔👍
Sorry to nit-pick, but didn't you misspeak when you said HRN took the win for wheels?
I stand corrected. Don’t know how that one got by me in editing. Marked it right on the board tallies though lol
@@GarageGear I was paying close attention. Your video was very helpful, and I ordered my HRX right after watching.
@jduey2396 ROCK ON J! Enjoy the mow!
@@GarageGear My mower was just delivered today from Home Depot. I was not able to check for the green dot ahead of time since it was a delivery, but now I see it does have it. Hopefully what another commenter said is true, that supposedly all of the Home Depot stock has been corrected.
@@jduey2396 Awesome! as far as I know it has! Haven’t seen one at my stores without it! 👍
My HRX217 from a few years ago has lately last season and seems worse this season, has been leaving random blades uncut!!!!! Been driving me up the wall!! Yes, blades are newer and been sharpened!
How fast are you mowing with it? Typically I see people mowing full speed and then they say it’s missing blades.
@@GarageGear walk pace. A tad over half. Ive even slowed down to see if that was the reason, nope. And its very random blades not tons but random pieces. Wondering if belt?
@@craigorlikowski2507 ok thanks for sharing. Also how often do you mow? Once a week or twice perhaps. If my lawn is overgrown mine might miss some blades
@@GarageGear oh no, about 3-4 days.
@@craigorlikowski2507 ok I don’t know what the story may be perhaps try some different blades on the mower and see what happens
😭😭… I’ll stick with my baby carriage. Still annoyed at the pulling in reverse issue but always fiddling with it so hopefully it’ll sort out. However the cut through tall thick grass in unnoticeable. The bagging is incredible… always full to the top, never leaving anything behind. Also 10,000sq’ and never used the full tank of gas.
Having said all that… I always get a lump in my throat and pit in my stomach when you poke fun at my baby carriage. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂
Another great vid JB!
Hey apex! Don’t worry my friend! I poke fun at all brands one way or another! I did like the deck a lot on the toro and the side discharge was nice too. If they could solve that reverse issue they would have a winner there!
To clear up an urban legend, do the rear wheels have metal gears inside them? Some knucklehead on the internet said they have replaced several sets of wheels but that is the only time I have read this. An older Honda I took apart once had metal gears so I have to believe they didn't cheap out. I had a Craftsman with plastic gears - wheels lasted about a year, it was a deal breaker.
@@JGordon-ch6nd the Hondas have metal gears! 👍
I use honda commercial mowers for my mowing business. Unstoppable. Again, I used to use battery powered greenworks mowers. But they just didn't cut well in thick tall grass which is 90% of my customers. Not to mention no batteries. Tank of gas lasts 3 1/2 hours before I have to fill it again. Much less time wasted.
Hold onto those mowers for as long as you can! Very well built!
I have a new HRX and an older HRN. Both are great and have the blade stop tech. My only wish is that I would have purchased the HRX with the hydrostatic drive.
Thanks for sharing jarrett!👍
I have 28 year old 536HRD with hydrostatic drive, it works great, even after 28 years and low maintenance. greetings from Belgium.
Thank you for the video
You got it lil Joe! Thanks for watching
AUG 2024
HRN $649
HRX $999
@@jameszclark whoa I thought prices were dropping so they could sell them off
@@GarageGear that was the cost at the northern tool store in Humble, Texas. I'm sure it can be found cheaper elsewhere but still.
@@jameszclark both of those went up about $100 or so.
The HRN comes with a 3-year warranty while the HRX comes with a 5-year warranty.
thanks for sharing
That plastic deck will outlast the transmission 100 out of 100 times.
Haha probably! 👍
I have a 14yr old HRX 217 with a bad 3-speed transmission. It is a shame as I like the old 3-speed far better than the current thumb drive.
@@WisconsinEric thanks for sharing Eric!
@@GarageGear That old HRX 217 also has a manual choke, and believe it or not Honda rated it at more torque than their newer 200cc engine
@@WisconsinEric good information here!👍
Hrn216 or Toro 21485?
Did you see my last comment my friend?
@@GarageGear I think I had last asked you if you preferred the craftsman over toro, not Honda. Sorry if I did
Thank California, CARB and the EPA for forcing Honda out of the US market! 👎👎
@@dmac5497 it’s sad how things are nowadays
Bruh this video didn't have to be this good and helpful.
@@suspiciousactivity4266 hahahah ROCK ON my friend! Thanks for watching 😂👍
I have 217 and the deck is cracked how ? I have no idea .. I have yet to take it in and see if Honda will replace it for the lifetime warranty ? Still runs and mows fine..
@@lyodbraun I would have it looked at for warranty work
They Don’t sell Anymore 😢😢😢😢
@@clementecruz285 yeah they’re getting harder to find!
I miss my HRX :-(
What happened to your HRX?
@@michaeldavis6550 Sold it as I needed a 30" mower. Ended up getting a Toro Timesucker which was THE worst decision ever in my lawn journey. Thing keeps breaking down and sucks badly.
@mrpickle23 Dam I'm so sorry to hear that, I bought the HRN 216 over a Toro & so glad I did. Toro is nothing like they used to be. Get yours fixed & sell it & look on Craig's list for a used Honda. I did after I bought my new HRN & I was surprised at some of the very nice used Hondas for sale. Made me wish I would of did that instead of buying new. Yea it sucks so bad to have something like that espically when your not enjoying it like you should & it's also not performing the way it should. I sure wish you luck cause that sucks.
@@michaeldavis6550 good idea.. thanks!!
We all make mistakes my friend. I would FB marketplace for a used one.
You forgot one huge difference... PRICE!
@@capt.jonathans.tuttle1504 I typically don’t mention prices because they fluctuate so much nowadays. If any one can look up this video they can easily find prices for them.
Neither they quit making both of these bricks
Thanks for sharing
Neither. They’re both junk!
Thanks for sharing
Honda has stopped manufacturing lawnmowers. Effective September 2023.
Yep mentioned that in the video!
@@GarageGear OK then, my mistake. I didn't watch it all.
I live in California, and my state always has to ruin everything, BUT there are a few of these lawn mowers available nearby. I’m buying this Honda model later today. Red Bull F1 Team has won 3 straight world championships with Honda engines. Thank you for the wonderful and fun review! HONDA ❤
@@Degradation11 awesome my friend! Enjoy the mow!
Found one HRN left at my home depot. I come from a basic bitch craftsman but it was when they knew how to build em had it for at least 15 years. Never before been excited to mow before but i am now
@@ohmaigod2 enjoy the mow my friend👍
Hey JB, turn RPM up to 3,350 on those two mowers and transform your cutting experience and end result. I own both of those lawn mowers and was amazed at the difference. My previous HRXs ran happily for a decade at that speed until I finally sold them to buy the new ones. Steve
Hi Steve! Thanks for sharing this good information. Appreciate it! Good machines you have!
I would love to figure out how to do that on my Honda after break in.
@GarageGear you're welcome buddy. Side note,my Toro 21564 has a TSB out that replaces the carburetor with one that doesn't sputter. I learned this just today through my local Toro dealer, and they are ordering me one up under warranty!
@AEAC good to know thanks for sharing
Is a blue sticker the same as the green sticker?
@@jameszclark yes it is
Alright Garage Gear…tell me how I did today
Bought a 3yr old HRX217HYA for $400. Came with spare blades, air filters, gaskets, belt, 3 Amsoil bottles, 4 cycle TruFuel bottle, winter cover and bagger.
Previous owner took religious care of it
You my friend, hit the jackpot! 👍
On my new HRX purchased this Spring, I thought they forgot to send the oil and there was residue in the crankcase so suspected it was used. Upon checking further, the oil was (hidden:) under the deck and discovered they test each model before release for sale which explained the oil residue in the engine!
@@kayakdan48 thanks for sharing this Dan!
Awesome video. Love my HRX. Should be good for a while
Oh yeah. Enjoy the mow this season.
yet again another banger. Love your videos man, call me weird but they always motivate me to go and actually cut my grass lmao plus they are super entertaining and informational. keep up the great work
Appreciate you lol gas tank! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Just had the HRX217VKA delivered today. I had been eyeing one for a few years now, and with Honda no longer making them it was either now or never. My 18+ year old Craftsman with a 6.5hp Briggs & Stratton engine is still working, but it's showing it's age.
It took me about 15 minutes to get the new mower unboxed and fully set up and I took the time to actually read the manual. Yes, some of us still do that. Mine had the green dot on the box so I knew it was good. It was covered over by the shipping/delivery sticker, but when I peeled that up you could plainly see it was there.
I set it up to about a 60/40 bag/mulch, but to be honest I can't tell if it was working. This mower cut everything up so fine compared to my old one it's hard to see what is being left on the ground from the mulching. My old one would cut one and just puke the grass out when trying to mulch, whereas this one everything is super well cut and left almost nothing on the ground. I only had to empty my bag twice instead of 7-8 times like my old one because it filled up the bag so much more efficiently. The ease of starting was surprising, too. Pull the cord until you feel some tension, then gently pull it back and it came right to life. My old one you had to yank it pretty good, but to be fair it still started up on the 2nd or 3rd pull even after 18+ years.
The self propelled took me by surprise with how fast it was. I only set it to about 30% and it just took off. My old mower was just a straight push with no assist, so this is a new feature to me. Once dialed in it worked just fine. I still need to play with it more though to figure out the best settings. My entire lawn is on a slight grade, so going down is super easy, but going up the grade it's slower. I also have a decent banking and had to turn it up 2 notches to make it up the banking at all. Once on the banking though it cut the length of it with little problem once I put it back to a slower speed.
All in all it was money well spent so far. I'm hoping to get a lot of years out of this mower.
@@Patryn71 you’ll get plenty of years out of it! Enjoy the mow
The HRX comes with a 5 year warranty for personal use.
Thanks for sharing
I switched from new hrx217 to timemaster after 2 years, only complaint is no side discharge on Honda mowers. Love my timemaster, no problems after 2 years
Thanks for sharing Bob
The Timemaster is an excellent finish mower. That’s why so many landscaping companies use them. Over the last few years, many features of the Turfmaster have migrated to the Timemaster
I was lucky to have an opportunity to work a weekend in exchange for a brand new HRX with an electric start. I was in the dog house with my wife for giving up a weekend, but man, was it worth it. Best mower I have ever owned.
Interesting story my friend lol 👍👍
you live on a corner lot have fun cuting grass,
I enjoy it!
Your neighbor is stunting on you with that HRX haha great!
Hahaha yea my he sure is!