I'm on mow #5 with mine purchased about a month ago, I have 1/4 acre yard that is almost golf course quality grass. This new one runs smoother than an older honda 160 powered snapper 22" I just sold. Most places are pushing electric, not for me. And yes, honda sells for good prices used.
@@mr.dcfitted8713 hey Mr. Dc a house a neighborhood over from me burned down because they were charging a battery that caught fire. That’s enough reason for me.
I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.
Thanks very helpful! I had the Home Depot crew get a box with a green dot from the top shelf as the one on the floor didn't have any. Wasn't going to take a risk after watching this video. Only used once, but we're very happy with it so far!
Have a 1/4 acre yard with a 10 yr. old HRX 217 still going strong. Bought a new HRX in December still new in the box that was recalled, not ready for battery yet.
Yesterday I bought the HRX at Home Depot for the price of the HRN model they made a mistake on the pricing at the shelf and they had to bite the bullet I love these kind of deals 😅
No green dot. No punched hole. I entered the serial number on Honda's "Recall and Update" web-page. When I hit submit, it reads: "There are currently no active recalls for your Power Equipment product." Please advise. BTW, thank you for your vids. I broke it in per your recommendations.
F/up: I called Honda with my SN. She entered into her database, then assured me my lawnmower was NOT included in the recall. She said this particular recall is very SN specific.
Thanks for the green dot advice, just picked this mower up a week ago and it did have the dot. Do you have any advice on a wheel upgrade for this mower? A set with bearings that aren't too expensive? Just curious on that. Great channel, I watch a lot of your content.
Hey Mike! Sounds like you’re set! I don’t have a better whee recommendation other than retreading those wheels. Appreciate the positive feedback my friend!
I had one and really liked it but Honda couldn't make it to stand up like most new mowers. Cut quality is fantastic and love the mulch lever. I cant stand adding a mulch plug. I bought a Toro Recycler and works great and storage is a plus for me but I do miss the throttle option which is my favorite.
Just bought mine this weekend. I did the oil change after 30 minutes of run time. My goodness you were not kidding about the color change after thirty minutes and the amount of particulates floating in the oil. I was totally shocked. Glad I watch your video before purchasing. Had to part ways with my John Deere JX75 which was tough, but I am excited for the Honda! Thanks man for all of your useful advice in the garage.
@@GarageGear loved the mower. I wanted a stripe kit and they don’t seem to make them for John Deeres and I’m not very innovative haha. I know Big League Lawns makes them for the Hondas. Bottom line is I’m a sucker for some stripes.
Thank you we just bought a brand new HRN today. Had the green sticker on the box per your advice. I just finished cutting the lawn. Worked great! 1st pull start. Glad I did not purchase the Toro. Used the mulch mode. No clumps or trash left behind. Honda rules!
Ive had an HRX for 18 years, It just had the rear axle assembly shear in two, I replaced the wheels about 5 years ago that's all I've ever done besides change the oil every couple years and sharper or replace the blades. I felt like I got my monies worth out of it so I gave it to a friends kid that likes to fix stuff and went and bought a new HRX this last weekend. I'm glade I did had no idea they where stopping selling them. The eclectic mowers I'm sure a good but they don't look like they will last 15+ years and Im sure the battery require replacement every 4 years or so.
Hey mate im a gardening contractor over in Australia. I have that exact mower. Just did a service on it a few hours ago. Been using it for 2 years. I still really like it. It is made in USA so unsure why it it wont be sold anymore to americans
@@GarageGear Yeah, swapping something that affects the climate of the planet over something that could be more hazardous in the short term. Lithium based batteries contain a number of toxic substances and aren't really all that recyclable. At least at the end of life an internal combustion engine is actually recyclable. Some will claim that the batteries are recyclable but wish-cycling is a little different than reality. Most of the precious metals in these batteries come out as something called "black mass," something that's potentially more harmful in the short term than greenhouse gas emissions as well as being more potentially harmful overall than spent nuclear fuel bundles. I just don't think trying to separate the precious and heavy metals in black mass would be financially feasible.
Just bought one. Had the green dot and cuts beautifully. Only thing I don't like is the self propelled hand controls. I am sure I'll get used to it but still very happy with the purchase.
I regret buying my 2022 Honda hrx217hya for the following reason: 1) my Honda hrr216vka I got in 2013 was fine. Should have kept it. 2) starting issue with mine no matter what. I changed the thermowax, changed gas and change spark. Doesn’t matter. Honda dealer said this is normal. Said if temperatures under 70 degrees it will not start first or second pull on these new Hondas. If it’s above it should. I can attest to this. Government regulation did something here as it is my first Honda power equipment that does not start first pull!
@@appleztooranges I’m not familiar with that term but this mower is probably about ten years old. When it happens I remove the air filter and use a stick to push the butterfly on the choke to unstick it and it will start right up.
Just bought mine today and mowed about .7 acres in an hour and 15 minutes which is much faster than my rider so far I love it. I was actually super surprised at how quite it is for a gas mower as well.
Love this mower! I bought one last month for my landscape company and the thing is awesome. Also figured out that the bag is interchangeable with the HRX bag which happens to be a lot bigger than the one it comes with.
I picked up an HRN216 for I want to say $230 a few years ago, lightly used. It has been flawless and even though I have since picked up a riding mower I still enjoy mowing with my Honda as well if the weather is nice.
I actually just bought that mower last week. I came from a Ryobi electric mower. There are a lot of things different on it overall it isn’t improvement, except then still not used to the system as the lawnmower moves too fast
I bought my '23 Honda HRX217HYA because of the engine quality, but sadly, just 1/3 of the way through its second mowing season, the Honda GCV200 engine is eating itself. Anywhere from a little to a LOT of exhaust smoke, and obviously it's burning oil pretty aggressively. (It received a new camshaft through the recall, but I think that's unrelated) So my plan is to hopefully get through this second mowing season without it dying completely, then take it in for probably a new cylinder and piston. If it dies again though, I'll either go electric, or find a walk behind mower with Kawasaki power.
Hey JB thanks for all your content …it’s not only very informative but they are also fun to watch ! I just picked up a HRX217 VYAA yesterday …..your reviews were super helpful on making my decision By the way do you know anything about Honda not discontinuing the lawnmower products, they released some new videos yesterday about the line up on their RUclips channel
We’ll have to stay tuned to see what they are going to do. I wonder if they’re changing their tune. Thanks for following along on the channel. I’m glad you find it to be useful.
I’m up in Canada and went to the Honda Powerhouse Store up by me (north of Toronto). Guy told me as far as he knows they are just moving production out of the US but the mowers will still be available. Not sure if it’s going to change anything with quality.
Had my HRN216 for 3yrs great power n speed cuts great, only issue is catching bag, the top section it lets all the fine dust ect blow through to your face breathing it in, great mower but if I had known this fault I would have bought something different, my last Honda engine mountfeild mower was 26yrs when it gave up never an issue
As Home owner, this mower is no brainer. Price can be scared but dont worry, you will get "profit" for a while because you are doing the work. I recommend the bicycle thread for better user experience, doing work like walking on park. Maintenance is easy, a basic tool kit is all you need.
I've had my Honda HRN216VKA since 2019 and had no issues for the past 5 years. Last weekend, the front wheel height adjuster snapped off. Because the HRN216 only has left side height adjuster, the whole front axle (44310-VR8-N00ZA) needs to be replaced. It's a $30 part, but still hard to find.
@@GarageGear Yes, I found part from an online retailer for $50. However, I cannot get the front plastic cover off due to two of the bolts won't come off. There is a nut with flat metal square piece which cuts into the plastic and cannot unloosen bolt. There is no way to get a tool in to grab hold of the nut to stop it from spinning. I now have a large paperweight.
In Australia you can still get Honda mowers and I might get a wb20 and it has a 163cc gx160 I love Honda it has been my dream to get a new gx engine I can’t lie
I got one, checked the box as per your video. It was the only mower I could find that really felt well-built and really looked quality. It's been running like a champ and cuts beautifully.
@GarageGear I've called a few places and even been to several locations that sell HRN216s. I've noticed that every single one of them have cracks in the engine block, not normal casting. Every dealership that I informed was flabbergast that they never noticed. Does yours have a crack in your block?? I'm trying to find some that don't but its hard. I suspect this is how the cracks occurred: Honda rolled them off the line to test with the original cam shaft, which causes internal damage, but they don't notice until it gives them issues which then they replace the faulty cam shaft with the new one. However, at this point the integrity of the block is just gone.
@@98765432123456 hey my friend! I heard about this a few times and I think it’s how they are coming out of their mold when made. No issues to report from those who own them.
Hey @GarageGear (JB!?), I saw one of your videos on Honda mowers, I believe it was the HRN to16, and you mentioned an issue that caused them to run uneven or cut off. It was not the magneto that the mechanic turned upside down that corrected it. It was a part that you mentioned purchasing and replacing, and he provided a link to it. It looked to be may be an inch long, and about the diameter of a pencil, and was copper or brass and color. Can you help me out with what the part is and what the issue was? Thanks!
Bought my Honda HR214 in 1986. Replaced one cable and one wheel so far. Nothing else other than air filter, oil and spark plug. Cranks on the first pull except for the first start of the season, then it takes 3 or 4 tries. 😂
Imagine saying Honda mowers suck and outing yourself to everyone in the room you've never used one. Good vid. I use an HRX217 myself for my lawn care business and it's been absolute workhorse for 5 years with no signs of stopping, and we're talking 30+ hours of mowing per week during the Spring, Summer, and Fall.
I garbage picked a Honda around the corner with the plastic deck its been our only push mower and doesn't ever fail to start first or second pull. I don't even maintain it lol.
I am sort of considering purchasing this mower and I was curious if you have experienced any of the issues I have seen on the web related to the self-propel caused by (wet) grass and twigs getting stuck in the belt area? You can see the "exposed" area that causes this issue at 5:21.
Hey cro! None whatsoever! I don’t have sticks and twigs all over my yard. Those that may may have issues but I don’t because I keep my yard tidy. I have never had an issue with grass interfering with the belt either. I also clean my mower deck about 3 times per year.
I purchased my first home a couple of days ago. Less than 4000 sf of cutting yard, I can't wait to go buy this mower. They are starting to disappear from the shelves, but I will travel to get one. Hopefully by the end of the month I will be starting to mow.
@AahronDaniel-tk4ts just be careful about stock. They had 50 left at my store & when I got there to get one they were down to 10 left & it was litterly 2hrs they went from 50 to 10 left. Their selling pretty fast & leftover stock Will be gone In no time. Congratulations on your new home & may God Bless you & your family with many Happy Years Together.
Im not a crazy electric powered save the world guy , my Ariens snowblower could never be replaced by electric but I’m sold on the electric mowers if you have a smaller yard. One of the best tools I’ve bought. Greenworks 80volt. It’s Awsome. . That being said. If you have something bigger and need more range. Can’t beat a Honda.
Have a Troy Built self propelled mower with a Honda engine. 16 years old now. Brought it out yesterday from winter storage, put in new gas, one pull and it starts. Note, have used synthetic oil since day one, change the spark plug every three years and clean and grease the axles and sharpen the blade 2x per season as I have a large yard.
I have three Honda mowers and an old Sears mower with a Honda engine on it and I haven’t had any problems with any of them. They will start first or second pull every time.
So what would be your recommendation on the best mulching self propelled push mower? Mainly focusing on mulching capability, but overall capability/ratings second
Just so its clear, my understanding is they will stop US production, but still make them overseas. If this is correct will they continue to sell the overseas models in North America?
You’re preaching to a choir member😂. I’m the owner of five older Honda GX engine powered self-propelled walk behind Honda mowers, the oldest 3 being 35 years give or take. The most recent was the only one I purchased new back in the 90’s and uses a small hydrostatic transmission. I paid an insane amount for that mower 25 years ago, compared to what the average homeowner spends for a 20” mower. In spite of the age, all 5 operate exactly as they should, but also have been properly cared for and stored inside. All five still have original engines and original blade clutches. The Honda mowers all cut beautifully, mulch very well and have a good solid “feel”. I doubt I’d ever use another brand walk behind.
I just had HD deliver one to me last week (none were in stock locally). Unfortunately the SN is in the range of the recall. Mine doesn't have a green sticker. It has a blue sticker. 🤔 I haven't opened it up to check for the "dimple", because I might just return it if it's part of the recall. I can't seem to find any mention online of a blue sticker being OK.
I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.
@@smitastic7030 That's interesting. Thanks for that feedback. There was only one serial number on mine (no "new" serial number) and it was definitely part of the recall. I did expect the box to have been opened and reused, but there was no sign of that. I tried to get some more information on Honda's website but finally gave up. Seems to me that considering Honda is no longer in this business that they are just dumping final stock. The thought also hit me that there's no motivation for Honda to rework an engine with the same care as originally building it. I returned the Honda today as a result. Picked up a new Toro which I suppose I should have in the first place.
Hard to beat Honda ..! I was 😤 to here 🇺🇸Gov & EPA scared Honda from producing gas mower .. My Husqvarna Mower has Honda GVC 160 powering it Great Engine trouble free with proper care..! Just ordered some spare parts to Keep it going strong 🤞🏻
Considering upgrading my John Deere JA65 to a Honda HRX217. Only issue I’m worried about is poor suction on it. Any opinions? The JA65 is MINT so I don’t know if I’d be able to let it go anyways.
@@GarageGearEnded up picking the Honda up. I am not disappointed!! Also someone is selling a mint John Deere 14SB, thinking of getting it since the Kawi is a better engine than the Briggs Quantum if I understood correctly.
Would you generally recommend this over the HRX base models for a 10,000 sq foot lawn? I am struggling to decide whether the extra $250 to move to the HRX217VKA is worth it. Appreciate any insights you may have.
Either one is good! I have the hrn and my neighbor has the hrx. You’ll get ball bearings in the wheels, a bigger engine and a better bagging system with the HRX.
I use an HRN216 VKA and VYA for mowing around 1 acre of grass. Works great and the only complaint is the drive belt is sorta difficult to get to and replace.
Hì JB. Just saw your video and went out and get the mentioned Honda at home depot. Upon taking it out of the box and did overall inspection, I found several hairline cracks at the right side of the engine wall (where the oil dip stick located), And look like it's been welded in some way. Compared to the other side of the engine (left) is smooth and no hair line cracks. Since it's passed QC from Honda, should I be concerned and just go ahead and returned to make sure. I'm a 61 years old guy and it's not convenient to pack or unpack the mower from the box and lift it. It's over a100lb box. Would like to hear your advice. Thanks
Thanks JB. That's a comfort to hear, not to worry about hair line cracks. That would save me a trip returning to Home Depot. This is my first Honda mower. Will start using and test out the mower tomorrow
Yo Garage Gear I bought a HRX yesterday & did the whole bottle pour in thing & when I checked the oil level after it was above the mushroom top thing on the dipstick I don’t see any writing that says full on it am I supposed to get it in between the lil xs at the bottom? Been a pain trying to slowly pump out a lil at a time.
Hey Johnny not exactly sure what the story is with your mower if you just bought it but I would dump out all the oil and refill it to the correct level with fresh oil.
@@GarageGear yeah I bought it new at HD idk why so much oil was still in it. Am I aiming for in between the cross X’s at the bottom of the dipstick for the oil level?
@@johnnytopside3702 yep you got it! When you put the dip stick in just rest it on the top. Don’t thread it down. Rest it, pull it out and check your level. That’s how to check it on a Honda mower nowadays.
How long do you figure Honda is going to continue to make parts for existing mowers? I figure with people stocking up, they’ll be more scarce than hen’s teeth. The ones available will be super expensive as dealer greed sets in.
According to a recent press release, Honda notified its power equipment dealers in October 2022, informing them that it would stop manufacturing lawnmowers and other gas-powered equipment effective September 2023.
Yeah I was deciding between those 2 as well. I just went with the Honda simply because there are more positive reviews on RUclips. For the dewalt there was only one. Seems to be a solid mower as well
NO mine blow up after 3 years Honda would not cover repairs garbage dump. From new with little use oil was black. Year latter found out about problems. I went back to my 20 year old John Deere with kawasaki engine, after 20 years after summer cutting oil looks new.
This Honda lawnmower is one of the absolute best lawnmowers you can buy on the market period. Honda makes great quality products and they are super reliable and rarely break by themselves.
No…….the plastic taps are not broken. The mower is brand new. From day one, the bag has never stayed in place. The steel bag hooks come off those tiny square plastic tabs easily. Poor design for a $600 mower.
These honda self propelled mowers have a GIGANTIC FLAW! Honda in their infinite wisdom decided a tiny red straw inside the fuel line would work well as a fuel filter. NOPE! it lets crap clog up the tiny little jet inside the carb and your honda is dead in the water. So to avoid this issue you have to put a real fuel filter inline with the fuel hose. Unfortunately I have searched everywhere to find a super short filter with the right inlet and outlets...And let me tell you thats about as rare as hens teeth. The amazon filters i ended up with have a tiny inlet /outlet that are so short they only have 1 single barb so of course they pop off and let all your gas leak out. Had to JB weld the POS filter just to sort of get it to fit! And on a side note I cant stand the jig saw puzzle that is the carburetor and all the crap that mounts to it. I hope yall never have to take one off because you need 3 hands and some reference pictures to put the damn thing back together. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in honda. Will never buy another one of these mowers!!!!
Just grabbed one of these today to go with my 2 year old HRX217HYA. I figure alternating between the two of them should easily last the rest of my useful mowing life. Ran the HRN once I got home and actually really impressed with it. Quite the upgrade from the old HRR216 I used to have and really not that big of a step down from the HRX with the hydro. Given that everything is going to throw away battery mowers, I figure might as well grab a spare while I still could, and I have slight concerns about support of the HRX composite deck 10 years down the line. Great video!
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I'm on mow #5 with mine purchased about a month ago, I have 1/4 acre yard that is almost golf course quality grass. This new one runs smoother than an older honda 160 powered snapper 22" I just sold. Most places are pushing electric, not for me. And yes, honda sells for good prices used.
RIGHT ON dmb!
I currently have a Ryobi new home owner but I’m getting serious about my grass why should I make the switch besides price and gas vs electric?
@@mr.dcfitted8713 hey Mr. Dc a house a neighborhood over from me burned down because they were charging a battery that caught fire. That’s enough reason for me.
@@GarageGear…My neighbors solar panels caught fire and set their house on fire, I’m good with old tried and true gas powered equipment!
I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.
Good info here smit!
Thanks very helpful! I had the Home Depot crew get a box with a green dot from the top shelf as the one on the floor didn't have any. Wasn't going to take a risk after watching this video. Only used once, but we're very happy with it so far!
Awesome my friend! Enjoy the mow Jay!
Have a 1/4 acre yard with a 10 yr. old HRX 217 still going strong. Bought a new HRX in December still new in the box that was recalled, not ready for battery yet.
Smart move!
Yesterday I bought the HRX at Home Depot for the price of the HRN model they made a mistake on the pricing at the shelf and they had to bite the bullet I love these kind of deals 😅
SCORE! Sweet deal! 👍
No green dot. No punched hole. I entered the serial number on Honda's "Recall and Update" web-page. When I hit submit, it reads: "There are currently no active recalls for your Power Equipment product." Please advise. BTW, thank you for your vids. I broke it in per your recommendations.
F/up: I called Honda with my SN. She entered into her database, then assured me my lawnmower was NOT included in the recall. She said this particular recall is very SN specific.
Sounds like you’re good to go! Are you having issues with yours?
If I was in the Market for a new Mower I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a Honda. I'd probably opt for a HRC model though.
Can’t beat em Jeffrey! Thanks for watching my friend!
Hrc 216 is the ultimate Honda mower.
Buying one tomorrow. It's the last one my dealer has in stock.@lanceb940
@@tomjoad8272 You Luck Dog you.
I was a huge Honda fan until they switched to the dual blade system. Now I’m no longer a Honda customer.
Thanks for the green dot advice, just picked this mower up a week ago and it did have the dot. Do you have any advice on a wheel upgrade for this mower? A set with bearings that aren't too expensive? Just curious on that. Great channel, I watch a lot of your content.
Hey Mike! Sounds like you’re set! I don’t have a better whee recommendation other than retreading those wheels. Appreciate the positive feedback my friend!
I had one and really liked it but Honda couldn't make it to stand up like most new mowers. Cut quality is fantastic and love the mulch lever. I cant stand adding a mulch plug. I bought a Toro Recycler and works great and storage is a plus for me but I do miss the throttle option which is my favorite.
Thanks for sharing DIY
Just bought mine this weekend. I did the oil change after 30 minutes of run time. My goodness you were not kidding about the color change after thirty minutes and the amount of particulates floating in the oil. I was totally shocked. Glad I watch your video before purchasing. Had to part ways with my John Deere JX75 which was tough, but I am excited for the Honda! Thanks man for all of your useful advice in the garage.
Hey Booth! Glad you’re excited for you new Honda! What as the story with your jx75?
@@GarageGear loved the mower. I wanted a stripe kit and they don’t seem to make them for John Deeres and I’m not very innovative haha. I know Big League Lawns makes them for the Hondas. Bottom line is I’m a sucker for some stripes.
@@Booth_ grab a kit and go to town!
Thank you we just bought a brand new HRN today. Had the green sticker on the box per your advice. I just finished cutting the lawn. Worked great! 1st pull start. Glad I did not purchase the Toro. Used the mulch mode. No clumps or trash left behind. Honda rules!
Awesome Jacob! Enjoy the mow bud!
Ive had an HRX for 18 years, It just had the rear axle assembly shear in two, I replaced the wheels about 5 years ago that's all I've ever done besides change the oil every couple years and sharper or replace the blades. I felt like I got my monies worth out of it so I gave it to a friends kid that likes to fix stuff and went and bought a new HRX this last weekend. I'm glade I did had no idea they where stopping selling them. The eclectic mowers I'm sure a good but they don't look like they will last 15+ years and Im sure the battery require replacement every 4 years or so.
@@1speedbrian there’s no way battery stuff last as long as your mower did! Especially the batteries! Thanks for watching
Love my HRN216. On year 4 now. I perform all the usual seasonal maintenance and, this year, replaced the rear wheels.
Thanks for sharing my friend
Hey mate im a gardening contractor over in Australia.
I have that exact mower. Just did a service on it a few hours ago.
Been using it for 2 years. I still really like it.
It is made in USA so unsure why it it wont be sold anymore to americans
Hey Luke! I assume it’s because there is a big push to go all battery here. Terrible idea. Thanks for sharing bud!
@@GarageGear Yeah, swapping something that affects the climate of the planet over something that could be more hazardous in the short term. Lithium based batteries contain a number of toxic substances and aren't really all that recyclable. At least at the end of life an internal combustion engine is actually recyclable. Some will claim that the batteries are recyclable but wish-cycling is a little different than reality. Most of the precious metals in these batteries come out as something called "black mass," something that's potentially more harmful in the short term than greenhouse gas emissions as well as being more potentially harmful overall than spent nuclear fuel bundles. I just don't think trying to separate the precious and heavy metals in black mass would be financially feasible.
Just bought one. Had the green dot and cuts beautifully. Only thing I don't like is the self propelled hand controls. I am sure I'll get used to it but still very happy with the purchase.
Awesome enjoy the mow land cruiser
try using your palm instead of your thumb on the hand controls. you may like it better
@@Tsnor150 good tip!
I regret buying my 2022 Honda hrx217hya for the following reason: 1) my Honda hrr216vka I got in 2013 was fine. Should have kept it. 2) starting issue with mine no matter what. I changed the thermowax, changed gas and change spark. Doesn’t matter. Honda dealer said this is normal. Said if temperatures under 70 degrees it will not start first or second pull on these new Hondas. If it’s above it should. I can attest to this. Government regulation did something here as it is my first Honda power equipment that does not start first pull!
One of my Honda mowers the automatic choke sticks periodically and won’t start until I unstick it. I wonder if that is the reason for your problem.
@@czechmate6916 is it the thermowax?
@@appleztooranges
I’m not familiar with that term but this mower is probably about ten years old. When it happens I remove the air filter and use a stick to push the butterfly on the choke to unstick it and it will start right up.
Thanks for sharing this info
Just bought mine today and mowed about .7 acres in an hour and 15 minutes which is much faster than my rider so far I love it. I was actually super surprised at how quite it is for a gas mower as well.
Awesome Tommy! That’s good amount of mowing!
Love this mower! I bought one last month for my landscape company and the thing is awesome. Also figured out that the bag is interchangeable with the HRX bag which happens to be a lot bigger than the one it comes with.
Glad you are enjoying it! Awesome to know!
I picked up an HRN216 for I want to say $230 a few years ago, lightly used. It has been flawless and even though I have since picked up a riding mower I still enjoy mowing with my Honda as well if the weather is nice.
Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you’re enjoying the mow with the Honda. It’s a great machine.
I actually just bought that mower last week. I came from a Ryobi electric mower. There are a lot of things different on it overall it isn’t improvement, except then still not used to the system as the lawnmower moves too fast
Thanks for sharing Matthew! Enjoy the mow!
I bought my '23 Honda HRX217HYA because of the engine quality, but sadly, just 1/3 of the way through its second mowing season, the Honda GCV200 engine is eating itself. Anywhere from a little to a LOT of exhaust smoke, and obviously it's burning oil pretty aggressively. (It received a new camshaft through the recall, but I think that's unrelated) So my plan is to hopefully get through this second mowing season without it dying completely, then take it in for probably a new cylinder and piston. If it dies again though, I'll either go electric, or find a walk behind mower with Kawasaki power.
Thanks for sharing jet
Thanks for sharing jet
Hey JB thanks for all your content …it’s not only very informative but they are also fun to watch !
I just picked up a HRX217 VYAA yesterday …..your reviews were super helpful on making my decision
By the way do you know anything about Honda not discontinuing the lawnmower products, they released some new videos yesterday about the line up on their RUclips channel
We’ll have to stay tuned to see what they are going to do. I wonder if they’re changing their tune. Thanks for following along on the channel. I’m glad you find it to be useful.
I’m up in Canada and went to the Honda Powerhouse Store up by me (north of Toronto). Guy told me as far as he knows they are just moving production out of the US but the mowers will still be available. Not sure if it’s going to change anything with quality.
Had my HRN216 for 3yrs great power n speed cuts great, only issue is catching bag, the top section it lets all the fine dust ect blow through to your face breathing it in, great mower but if I had known this fault I would have bought something different, my last Honda engine mountfeild mower was 26yrs when it gave up never an issue
Thanks for sharing this info my friend
As Home owner, this mower is no brainer. Price can be scared but dont worry, you will get "profit" for a while because you are doing the work. I recommend the bicycle thread for better user experience, doing work like walking on park. Maintenance is easy, a basic tool kit is all you need.
Good tips. Thanks for sharing!
I've had my Honda HRN216VKA since 2019 and had no issues for the past 5 years. Last weekend, the front wheel height adjuster snapped off. Because the HRN216 only has left side height adjuster, the whole front axle (44310-VR8-N00ZA) needs to be replaced. It's a $30 part, but still hard to find.
@@DavidGipson-en4su did you end up finding it? If so where?
@@GarageGear Yes, I found part from an online retailer for $50. However, I cannot get the front plastic cover off due to two of the bolts won't come off. There is a nut with flat metal square piece which cuts into the plastic and cannot unloosen bolt. There is no way to get a tool in to grab hold of the nut to stop it from spinning. I now have a large paperweight.
@@DavidGipson-en4su sounds like you’re gonna have to get creative to make it work if you can
In Australia you can still get Honda mowers and I might get a wb20 and it has a 163cc gx160 I love Honda it has been my dream to get a new gx engine I can’t lie
Awesome! Go get it!
@@GarageGear i have a pond with 100000 gallons and I need to pump it to get rid of reed’s
I got one, checked the box as per your video. It was the only mower I could find that really felt well-built and really looked quality. It's been running like a champ and cuts beautifully.
Awesome! That’s great to hear!
@GarageGear
I've called a few places and even been to several locations that sell HRN216s. I've noticed that every single one of them have cracks in the engine block, not normal casting. Every dealership that I informed was flabbergast that they never noticed.
Does yours have a crack in your block?? I'm trying to find some that don't but its hard. I suspect this is how the cracks occurred:
Honda rolled them off the line to test with the original cam shaft, which causes internal damage, but they don't notice until it gives them issues which then they replace the faulty cam shaft with the new one. However, at this point the integrity of the block is just gone.
@@98765432123456 hey my friend! I heard about this a few times and I think it’s how they are coming out of their mold when made. No issues to report from those who own them.
Hey @GarageGear (JB!?), I saw one of your videos on Honda mowers, I believe it was the HRN to16, and you mentioned an issue that caused them to run uneven or cut off. It was not the magneto that the mechanic turned upside down that corrected it. It was a part that you mentioned purchasing and replacing, and he provided a link to it. It looked to be may be an inch long, and about the diameter of a pencil, and was copper or brass and color. Can you help me out with what the part is and what the issue was? Thanks!
@@rossadams7048 did you see my other message?
@@GarageGear Hey JB, yes, I did, thank you. The part you identified is the auto-choke Thermowax actuator. Thanks again JB, keep up the great work!
Bought my Honda HR214 in 1986. Replaced one cable and one wheel so far. Nothing else other than air filter, oil and spark plug. Cranks on the first pull except for the first start of the season, then it takes 3 or 4 tries. 😂
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing my friend! Enjoy the mow this season.
Imagine saying Honda mowers suck and outing yourself to everyone in the room you've never used one. Good vid. I use an HRX217 myself for my lawn care business and it's been absolute workhorse for 5 years with no signs of stopping, and we're talking 30+ hours of mowing per week during the Spring, Summer, and Fall.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing! Many more years to come
I garbage picked a Honda around the corner with the plastic deck its been our only push mower and doesn't ever fail to start first or second pull. I don't even maintain it lol.
Wow! They built them to last
I am sort of considering purchasing this mower and I was curious if you have experienced any of the issues I have seen on the web related to the self-propel caused by (wet) grass and twigs getting stuck in the belt area? You can see the "exposed" area that causes this issue at 5:21.
Hey cro! None whatsoever! I don’t have sticks and twigs all over my yard. Those that may may have issues but I don’t because I keep my yard tidy. I have never had an issue with grass interfering with the belt either. I also clean my mower deck about 3 times per year.
I’m kinda deciding between the Honda and a Toro 21564 I have. I have a yard with little nooks and crannies and the Personal Pace can be finicky.
I purchased my first home a couple of days ago. Less than 4000 sf of cutting yard, I can't wait to go buy this mower. They are starting to disappear from the shelves, but I will travel to get one. Hopefully by the end of the month I will be starting to mow.
Awesome! Go for it, my friend! You won’t be disappointed
Did you get your mower, I returned a mower today , bought this one myself.
@@michaeldavis6550 not yet, we move in Wednesday. The yard is getting LONG. First cut is going to be fun.
@AahronDaniel-tk4ts just be careful about stock. They had 50 left at my store & when I got there to get one they were down to 10 left & it was litterly 2hrs they went from 50 to 10 left. Their selling pretty fast & leftover stock Will be gone In no time. Congratulations on your new home & may God Bless you & your family with many Happy Years Together.
@michaeldavis6550 thanks for the heads up. I will purchase today! Blessings to you as well.
Im not a crazy electric powered save the world guy , my Ariens snowblower could never be replaced by electric but I’m sold on the electric mowers if you have a smaller yard. One of the best tools I’ve bought. Greenworks 80volt. It’s Awsome. . That being said. If you have something bigger and need more range. Can’t beat a Honda.
Thanks for sharing this my friend
Have a Troy Built self propelled mower with a Honda engine. 16 years old now. Brought it out yesterday from winter storage, put in new gas, one pull and it starts.
Note, have used synthetic oil since day one, change the spark plug every three years and clean and grease the axles and sharpen the blade 2x per season as I have a large yard.
Solid plan Brian!
I have three Honda mowers and an old Sears mower with a Honda engine on it and I haven’t had any problems with any of them. They will start first or second pull every time.
Keep them as long as you can, my friend!
So what would be your recommendation on the best mulching self propelled push mower? Mainly focusing on mulching capability, but overall capability/ratings second
For the best store bought mower I would get a Honda. Either hrn or HRX. Got a video coming out on this this weekend
@@GarageGear Looking forward to it! Thanks for the reply! Awesome video content btw
@@CraigGa appreciate you Craig
Just so its clear, my understanding is they will stop US production, but still make them overseas. If this is correct will they continue to sell the overseas models in North America?
My understanding is that will not. They are off the rest of what is in stock. That may change, but I don’t know.
Just received mine , has a blue dot, worries me maybe the camshaft hasn't been corrected. Update: blue or green dot means it has been corrected.
You’re good to go!👍
Mine also has a blue dot on the box and on the engine, but no punch mark
@@johnwalters878 as far as I know you’re good to go
You’re preaching to a choir member😂. I’m the owner of five older Honda GX engine powered self-propelled walk behind Honda mowers, the oldest 3 being 35 years give or take. The most recent was the only one I purchased new back in the 90’s and uses a small hydrostatic transmission. I paid an insane amount for that mower 25 years ago, compared to what the average homeowner spends for a 20” mower. In spite of the age, all 5 operate exactly as they should, but also have been properly cared for and stored inside. All five still have original engines and original blade clutches. The Honda mowers all cut beautifully, mulch very well and have a good solid “feel”. I doubt I’d ever use another brand walk behind.
Awesome chatrkat thanks for sharing this with the community
Didn’t you already have that lawnmower before or is that the same one that you with the blanket?
@@stormyjean-baptiste2196 I still have my Honda hrn216! This is the hrx217!
I just had HD deliver one to me last week (none were in stock locally). Unfortunately the SN is in the range of the recall. Mine doesn't have a green sticker. It has a blue sticker. 🤔
I haven't opened it up to check for the "dimple", because I might just return it if it's part of the recall. I can't seem to find any mention online of a blue sticker being OK.
I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.
@@smitastic7030 That's interesting. Thanks for that feedback. There was only one serial number on mine (no "new" serial number) and it was definitely part of the recall. I did expect the box to have been opened and reused, but there was no sign of that. I tried to get some more information on Honda's website but finally gave up. Seems to me that considering Honda is no longer in this business that they are just dumping final stock. The thought also hit me that there's no motivation for Honda to rework an engine with the same care as originally building it. I returned the Honda today as a result. Picked up a new Toro which I suppose I should have in the first place.
Not sure of any info on the blue dots.
I have had my Honda HRX 217 since 2020, outstanding machine.. was just under $800 worth every cent. It is the formula 1 of mowers
Can’t beat em Michael! 👍thanks for watching!
Hard to beat Honda ..!
I was 😤 to here 🇺🇸Gov & EPA scared Honda from producing gas mower ..
My Husqvarna Mower has Honda GVC 160 powering it Great Engine trouble free with proper care..!
Just ordered some spare parts to Keep it going strong 🤞🏻
ROCK ON Tim! Thanks for watching
Considering upgrading my John Deere JA65 to a Honda HRX217. Only issue I’m worried about is poor suction on it. Any opinions? The JA65 is MINT so I don’t know if I’d be able to let it go anyways.
Both of those mowers are great. The Honda does a good job cutting. Wouldn’t be disappointed with it!
@@GarageGearEnded up picking the Honda up. I am not disappointed!! Also someone is selling a mint John Deere 14SB, thinking of getting it since the Kawi is a better engine than the Briggs Quantum if I understood correctly.
@@ChicagoSirens yep! Go for it!!!
So I thought Honda was discontinuing it's gas push mowers and they actually did a stop sale last September. R they still producing them?
They stopped making them last September and are selling off any remaining repaired mowers after their stop sale last year.
Would you generally recommend this over the HRX base models for a 10,000 sq foot lawn? I am struggling to decide whether the extra $250 to move to the HRX217VKA is worth it. Appreciate any insights you may have.
Either one is good! I have the hrn and my neighbor has the hrx. You’ll get ball bearings in the wheels, a bigger engine and a better bagging system with the HRX.
I use an HRN216 VKA and VYA for mowing around 1 acre of grass. Works great and the only complaint is the drive belt is sorta difficult to get to and replace.
Im looking at buying a horizontal shaft honda engine for a future project. Are any of them affected by any issues?
Nope only the engines mentioned in this video were affected
I just bought one and it looks like there are cracks on the side of the block between oil filler and the muffler. Is this normal from maybe casting?
I have seen that before. It’s normal. As long as you don’t see any leaks you are good.
Thanks!
Nice to know that they actually check the mowers for cam issues, and putting on the sticker to let you know.
Yeah that is helpful
Thank you for all you're videos. Just purchased a hrx.
@@jonesy2234 ROCK ON jonesy! 👍
Hì JB. Just saw your video and went out and get the mentioned Honda at home depot. Upon taking it out of the box and did overall inspection, I found several hairline cracks at the right side of the engine wall (where the oil dip stick located), And look like it's been welded in some way. Compared to the other side of the engine (left) is smooth and no hair line cracks. Since it's passed QC from Honda, should I be concerned and just go ahead and returned to make sure. I'm a 61 years old guy and it's not convenient to pack or unpack the mower from the box and lift it. It's over a100lb box. Would like to hear your advice. Thanks
Hey tin not to worry. Those lines are from the mold they were made in. See them on lots of Hondas. You’re all good with that mower!
Thanks JB. That's a comfort to hear, not to worry about hair line cracks. That would save me a trip returning to Home Depot. This is my first Honda mower. Will start using and test out the mower tomorrow
@@tinfairfax go for it! 👍
Yo Garage Gear I bought a HRX yesterday & did the whole bottle pour in thing & when I checked the oil level after it was above the mushroom top thing on the dipstick I don’t see any writing that says full on it am I supposed to get it in between the lil xs at the bottom? Been a pain trying to slowly pump out a lil at a time.
Hey Johnny not exactly sure what the story is with your mower if you just bought it but I would dump out all the oil and refill it to the correct level with fresh oil.
@@GarageGear yeah I bought it new at HD idk why so much oil was still in it. Am I aiming for in between the cross X’s at the bottom of the dipstick for the oil level?
@@johnnytopside3702 yep you got it! When you put the dip stick in just rest it on the top. Don’t thread it down. Rest it, pull it out and check your level. That’s how to check it on a Honda mower nowadays.
Just got one the other day, says manufacture date on the engine was 2022. You think I should return it for a newer one?
If it’s running fine, You’re good.
You were pushing it around on park pad the bag was not puffed out. On mulch?
Yep she was in mulch mode!
Why does my husquvarna mower run super loud? The rpm’s seem to be wayyy too high and I don’t know how to fix it
Sounds like the governor on it is broken. I would take it in to a shop for repair sooner than later.
@@GarageGear ok great, if I wanted to replace the governor all together would that be expensive?
@@elivadnais could be depending on the work involved with a specific model
@@GarageGear I figured it out. Somthing on the govener was all gummed up and it couldn’t move. Thanks
How long do you figure Honda is going to continue to make parts for existing mowers? I figure with people stocking up, they’ll be more scarce than hen’s teeth. The ones available will be super expensive as dealer greed sets in.
We’ll have to wait and see. I don’t them stopping production of parts anytime soon though.
Blue Dots also mean the cam problem has been fix
@@WilliamMaginnis yep you got it
What do you think about the toro super recycler with the Honda engine
Good mowers. Just don’t make them like that anymore.
That grass bag appears small. If so that could be a dealbreaker for me.
I believe the hex bag will fit on this model too. Could always upgrade that
@@GarageGear ok. Good to know. Thanks
I just bought this mower Month ago and its is a awesome mower easy to handle and easy on gas ..
Sure is! Thanks for sharing
According to a recent press release, Honda notified its power equipment dealers in October 2022, informing them that it would stop manufacturing lawnmowers and other gas-powered equipment effective September 2023.
Yep thanks for sharing
If I was to get a Honda would you recommend the steel or NeXite deck?
Both are good decks. I’m a bigger fan of the HRX with the better bagging and mulching system.
Why would Honda stop making them??
@@MotoMatt418 they had some issues with California but really it all comes down to money sales.
I have a BLUE dot on mine just purchased today. Any idea what that means ?
I’m pretty sure it means the same.
Will they continue to make snowblowers for the U.S.?
Honda will
Can you compare the Honda with the new DEWALT fuel mower
I’ll see what I can do!
Yeah I was deciding between those 2 as well. I just went with the Honda simply because there are more positive reviews on RUclips. For the dewalt there was only one. Seems to be a solid mower as well
@@HeavyChevy1975 that dewalt mower came out in the last year or so. No longevity report
Where did he source this mower ?
Home Depot
@@GarageGear lucky bastard. Can’t find them anywhere
@@nicholasmeyers3291 perhaps expand your search winds to neighboring cities and grab one that way!
@@GarageGear always appreciate the advice !
I wish Honda made a riding garden/lawn tractor.
That would be nice!
NO mine blow up after 3 years Honda would not cover repairs garbage dump. From new with little use oil was black. Year latter found out about problems. I went back to my 20 year old John Deere with kawasaki engine, after 20 years after summer cutting oil looks new.
Thanks for sharing
Strongly considering buying one of these mowers soon so the info is much appreciated!
You got it commodore! 👍
Well, I’m surprised. I didn’t think you could buy new Honda lawn equipment anymore.
Get it while you can.
What gas do yall run on your Honda, and do which oil brand you use?
Hey Blackhawk I use non ethanol gas and usually use super tech 5w30 full synthetic oil! 👍
Green means Go. Truer words have never been spoken 😁.
You got it Smallblock! Was just at home depot yesterday and they had pallets of Honda mowers all with the green dots! Good to go! 👍
@@GarageGear I check for the sticker every time I walk by them there also lol.
Son works at Home Depot, all included mowers were sent back to Honda a while ago
Yeah, the recall work was done now they are good to go!
Anyone else’s brand new mower not start on the first pull?
Sometimes mine starts on the 3rd pull. No reason. Just what it does
How did I just notice the bag of crab grass seeds? 🤣
Now you know my secret to the greenest lawn in the neighborhood 😈
This Honda lawnmower is one of the absolute best lawnmowers you can buy on the market period. Honda makes great quality products and they are super reliable and rarely break by themselves.
Thanks for sharing
I wouldn’t buy another one. They don’t do a good job when cutting at 4 inches or higher.
Thanks for sharing
Always helpful reviews, tips, instructions
You got it T! Thanks for watching
Lol it's a mini mower. Nothing under 48 inches here and my lawn is small.
How many acres or square feet of property do you mow?
Best mower made hands down, I have two and one is 20 years old !
They are great machines! Hang on to that one!
Some say you are not an expert on California emissions regulations and Honda business decisions.
Never said I was
I want to buy a Rolux powered by Honda
ROCK ON web!
Did you ever do a comparison of gas vs battery mowers?
Yes, please watch videos from last year.
No…….the plastic taps are not broken. The mower is brand new. From day one, the bag has never stayed in place. The steel bag hooks come off those tiny square plastic tabs easily. Poor design for a $600 mower.
Perhaps you could screw a bolt on the top of each mount to better hold the bag on.
These honda self propelled mowers have a GIGANTIC FLAW! Honda in their infinite wisdom decided a tiny red straw inside the fuel line would work well as a fuel filter. NOPE! it lets crap clog up the tiny little jet inside the carb and your honda is dead in the water. So to avoid this issue you have to put a real fuel filter inline with the fuel hose. Unfortunately I have searched everywhere to find a super short filter with the right inlet and outlets...And let me tell you thats about as rare as hens teeth. The amazon filters i ended up with have a tiny inlet /outlet that are so short they only have 1 single barb so of course they pop off and let all your gas leak out. Had to JB weld the POS filter just to sort of get it to fit!
And on a side note I cant stand the jig saw puzzle that is the carburetor and all the crap that mounts to it. I hope yall never have to take one off because you need 3 hands and some reference pictures to put the damn thing back together. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in honda. Will never buy another one of these mowers!!!!
Thanks for sharing
No I've never bought one of those I bought a Toro thank you for the video
Thanks for watching
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@@포화-f8e thanks for watching
engine-wise this mower is ok but the thumb drive is complete BS . My cable broke in the first year of use. will not buy ever again.
@@Scorpiokills thanks for sharing scorpio
Lawn boy
Thanks for watching
Honda ended up restarting and is still making them
I believe selling off last year’s stock.
@@GarageGear they decided after a lot of contact to keep making the commercial line of 21 inch mowers.
Honda makes her their engine so that you have to run their way and so they can control and dictate you
Thanks for sharing
You haven't unboxed one in a while But now they're gone
I would search around other Home Depot’s in your area and see if they can deliver. My neighbor had one delivered two weeks back.
@@GarageGear I already have two I just wanted to tell you you already unboxed one a long time ago
I just love Honda mowers. Love my HŔR216. That one looks awesome! 👍
Hard to beat em rice burner! Thanks for watching bud!
Just grabbed one of these today to go with my 2 year old HRX217HYA. I figure alternating between the two of them should easily last the rest of my useful mowing life. Ran the HRN once I got home and actually really impressed with it. Quite the upgrade from the old HRR216 I used to have and really not that big of a step down from the HRX with the hydro. Given that everything is going to throw away battery mowers, I figure might as well grab a spare while I still could, and I have slight concerns about support of the HRX composite deck 10 years down the line.
Great video!
Thanks for the positive feedback and input Brian! 👍
Thanks! i have a Toro mower with a Honda mower but it's time to replace it with a Honda HRN216 while they're still available.
Go for it! 👍
I just purchased my Honda HRN216VKAA today I love it. Your video inspired me to get one thanks for the heads up.
@@richardhensley8281 RIGHT ON RICHARD! 👍
can someone help me and tell me if it is worth buying a lawn mower Solo by AL-KO 548K ???
Definitely worth buying