Thanks for the comment Phillip. I agree and I hope to see price reductions once electric commercial vehicles start to scale in production. They do have an overall total cost of ownership which also need to be consider like any EV.
Thank you! I understand the cost savings associated with sharing the chassis with ICE drivetrain, but I feel like Ford could have improved efficiency (and range) with a more aerodynamic exterior. Like real buttons and knobs and 2.3 kW receptacles.
Good for town driving. But not suitable for long distance without multiple charging stops, which will reduce driving time / number of deliveries per day, which in turn will increase delivery costs as more vans / drivers needed .
Is 120 miles really going to be enough. The fleet we have do more than 250 on delivery runs. Loaded with frozen items. The freezer would need to run as well. So I think all van manufacturers really need to up the game.
Nice van. A transit with electric drive. Just what transit drivers will want..... if they can find the money. Is payload reduced by battery weight? Might need truck licence to drive. As it is not a dedicated ev platform did Ford miss a trick? I just saw the Arrival van at fully charged and the low cab will make it very handy if you have to get in and out regularly. Great video.
Thanks for the comment Des. Great points as always. Yes, the payload is different depending on length, height chassis setup and then battery size. They do try and keep within licencing laws so a truck licence is not necessary. Not dedicated is definitely a thing like the Arrival, Bright Drop and Rivian vans. Wondering when Ford will make a ground up Commercial EV. This along with the upcoming Transit Custom on May 9th will be very familiar to regular ford transit drivers.
Biggest problem in the UK is the stupid rules for electric vans upto 4.25t. They need to make them exactly the same as a normal van, no training courses or speed limiters. I've just order another ICE Transit because the double cab is only available in 3.9t GVW and its just too much hassle.
When you were reviewing the van I would of maybe added in a spec list later on when you were editing your video rather than taking up so much time when you had the van only for an hour would liked to have seen more of a drive in her thanks all the same though and I subscribed 👍
Thanks Eamon. The "equivalent" size van in length and height is retailing at €38,898.25. Manual transmission. Automatic diesel up to €43,157.75 but a lower PS. Nearest PS is the 10 speed automatic diesel at 170PS Vs the E-Transit 184PS and the price is then €47,044.55. You wouldn't be long make up roughly €12,000 in running costs....
How about a look at a vintage electric van like the Ford Transit Connect Electric made by Azure Dynamics. If you can find one in Ireland that is... Good review...
It is a pity that Ford took as a basis a body from a rear-wheel drive van, it is very convenient for me with a "low floor". Of course, for a truck, rear-wheel drive is the most correct option ... Is it going to be a front wheel drive version or a rear wheel drive version with a low floor?
Hi, Derek. I did a search on the tire size mentioned 235/45 16 and I could not find a manufacturer that makes that size. Are you sure about that size, sir?
Well, to compare, one should maybe compare it to other electric vans. This is a van and for different use and different kind of people than cars, at least I think so. Ford was very slow to introduce it - but others were worse. I think E-Sprinter was the first (now it seems to be disappeared), VW E-Crafter was maybe second (now it has disappeared) and Fiat E-Ducato was the third one (maybe it will disappear soon) and it is basically from days gone by long ago... E-Transit has a price tag here that might make some people millionaires but I doubt these will sell here at all. Ford wants here about 20 000 eur more than the diesel-engined one... Would anyone buy a van that is 75 000 eur? Oh, the chinese Maxxus which is basically a copy of Ford Transit was already here before E-transit came and some has been seen on the road too. Looked like it could benefit of working rear shocks, though (the ride seemed jumpy).
Rear wheel drive? that's crazy. No wonder there is a slippery mode. Horrible touch screen, ENV200 no touch screen and has proper chunky gear selector, which is what you want when doing multipoint turns, you can shuttle those things brilliantly. Have fords addressed the rust problem yet, they were rotting by the time they were 8 years old , as were Mercs.
€ 60,000 , WOW , a good spec 350 , 130 bhp is € 45,000 , so that's with crude mathematics € 15,000 worth of free diesel, tax, insurance and servicing, 4yrs driving for a normal tradesmen, and still worth 60% of its initial cost when time to sell , EV transit would barely bring you from cavan to Dublin every day , then charge it, insure it and find someone to service it properly , sorry Derek but that's pure madness
Thanks for the comment Sean. Electric vans are still only suitable for certain use cases and the person travelling from Dublin to Cavan, it's not for them. Now sticking around Dublin maybe so. The larger companies who can work the numbers and swallow the initial price difference it will suit better.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland must be the only place left to purchase one the electricity here is around. 17 cents per kwh maybe electricity cost are higher there?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland that makes since there would be some left to purchase even though the electric is still cheaper to own and operate its value is cut in half
A very impressive E van. Luckily I was sitting down when you said the price😃
Thanks for the comment Phillip. I agree and I hope to see price reductions once electric commercial vehicles start to scale in production. They do have an overall total cost of ownership which also need to be consider like any EV.
Great stuff Derek! Hope to see loads of these on the road!
Thanks Blake, we all do don't we. Along with more cargo bikes right?
Very impressive looking Van, I only once drove a Transit and I couldn’t bellow good it was to drive. Looks like Ford have done a good job here.
Thanks for the comment John and I'd agree
Nice infotainment setup
Thanks for the comment Tony. Yes, Ford have done a good job on this and the Mustang Mach-E
Thank you! I understand the cost savings associated with sharing the chassis with ICE drivetrain, but I feel like Ford could have improved efficiency (and range) with a more aerodynamic exterior. Like real buttons and knobs and 2.3 kW receptacles.
Thanks Barry. I suppose it's economies of scale like you say.
Another great review on an EV segment which should make a big impact on reducing urban emissions.
Thanks for the comment! More electric vans please
Well done Derek great review
I spent a lot of my adult life driving vans and it looks like Ford did a real good job. Thanks Derek regards Jim's Shed
Thanks for the comment Jim. I drove nearly 500,000 in a caddy van so I'm a van fan. This E-Transit is a good EV.
Very impressive Derek.
Thanks for the comment Neil. Glad you enjoyed it
Good for town driving. But not suitable for long distance without multiple charging stops, which will reduce driving time / number of deliveries per day, which in turn will increase delivery costs as more vans / drivers needed .
Thanks for the comment Lutz. Definitely for shorter ranges but if it works for you it will be a very good van
Is 120 miles really going to be enough.
The fleet we have do more than 250 on delivery runs.
Loaded with frozen items.
The freezer would need to run as well.
So I think all van manufacturers really need to up the game.
Thanks Sooty899. Definitely we're at the beginning of an EV van journey. Longer range needed for sure but 120 will suit some and it's a start.
Vantastic!
Love it. More puns required in my reviews
Independent REAR suspension? No beam axle?
Yes as this is where the electric motor is located. Thanks for the comment
Nice van. A transit with electric drive. Just what transit drivers will want..... if they can find the money. Is payload reduced by battery weight? Might need truck licence to drive.
As it is not a dedicated ev platform did Ford miss a trick? I just saw the Arrival van at fully charged and the low cab will make it very handy if you have to get in and out regularly.
Great video.
Thanks for the comment Des. Great points as always. Yes, the payload is different depending on length, height chassis setup and then battery size. They do try and keep within licencing laws so a truck licence is not necessary.
Not dedicated is definitely a thing like the Arrival, Bright Drop and Rivian vans. Wondering when Ford will make a ground up Commercial EV. This along with the upcoming Transit Custom on May 9th will be very familiar to regular ford transit drivers.
Biggest problem in the UK is the stupid rules for electric vans upto 4.25t. They need to make them exactly the same as a normal van, no training courses or speed limiters.
I've just order another ICE Transit because the double cab is only available in 3.9t GVW and its just too much hassle.
Agree MyMednas. Hope legalisation will catch up and cope on!
When will you get to drive and charge the Solterra or Bz4x? Thanks.
Soon I hope Barry! Have sent a few emails to Toyota Ireland
When you were reviewing the van I would of maybe added in a spec list later on when you were editing your video rather than taking up so much time when you had the van only for an hour would liked to have seen more of a drive in her thanks all the same though and I subscribed 👍
Thanks Patrick. Noted for future van reviews.
Derek, Great review - big van. Is it simply better than ICE equivalent? - what about Irish price i.e. TCO comparison with ICE over 5 yrs? Thanks
Thanks Eamon. The "equivalent" size van in length and height is retailing at €38,898.25. Manual transmission. Automatic diesel up to €43,157.75 but a lower PS. Nearest PS is the 10 speed automatic diesel at 170PS Vs the E-Transit 184PS and the price is then €47,044.55. You wouldn't be long make up roughly €12,000 in running costs....
Looks good! nice interior and infotainment setup. Charging speeds are impressive for a van also. Cheaper than the eDeliver 9? 🤔
Some good boxes being ticked. I'd say we may see a MAXUS price adjustment 🙂
How about a look at a vintage electric van like the Ford Transit Connect Electric made by Azure Dynamics. If you can find one in Ireland that is... Good review...
Now that sounds like a challenge. Thanks for the comment
@@NevoEVReviewIreland ....and kudos to your cameraman for the stabilized wide angle and close-up shots and the sound is good.... well done!
I wish all my reviews were as good!
Plenty of space and electric van ranges are creeping up where they need to be
Thanks for the comment Patrycja, I agree. Moving in the right direction ⚡
Nice looking van but the price and payload only just over a tonne..
Thanks Rob, yes unfortunately it's a balance between the battery weight and the payload at the moment
It is a pity that Ford took as a basis a body from a rear-wheel drive van, it is very convenient for me with a "low floor".
Of course, for a truck, rear-wheel drive is the most correct option ...
Is it going to be a front wheel drive version or a rear wheel drive version with a low floor?
A ground up EV is usually the way to go. Not sure, I'll have to check and come back to you
Hi, Derek. I did a search on the tire size mentioned 235/45 16 and I could not find a manufacturer that makes that size. Are you sure about that size, sir?
Thanks Mike, you are right, the correct size is 235/65 16. Apologies
@@NevoEVReviewIreland no worries, sir. Thanks for the quick response. Great video! thanks for sharing. 🙌🏼
Well, to compare, one should maybe compare it to other electric vans. This is a van and for different use and different kind of people than cars, at least I think so.
Ford was very slow to introduce it - but others were worse. I think E-Sprinter was the first (now it seems to be disappeared), VW E-Crafter was maybe second (now it has disappeared) and Fiat E-Ducato was the third one (maybe it will disappear soon) and it is basically from days gone by long ago... E-Transit has a price tag here that might make some people millionaires but I doubt these will sell here at all. Ford wants here about 20 000 eur more than the diesel-engined one... Would anyone buy a van that is 75 000 eur?
Oh, the chinese Maxxus which is basically a copy of Ford Transit was already here before E-transit came and some has been seen on the road too. Looked like it could benefit of working rear shocks, though (the ride seemed jumpy).
Thanks for the comment and your point if view
👍
Glad you liked it
Rear wheel drive? that's crazy. No wonder there is a slippery mode. Horrible touch screen, ENV200 no touch screen and has proper chunky gear selector, which is what you want when doing multipoint turns, you can shuttle those things brilliantly. Have fords addressed the rust problem yet, they were rotting by the time they were 8 years old , as were Mercs.
Thanks Will. I suppose we'll have to get used to the gear selector. Not sure about the rust so I hope so
€ 60,000 ,
WOW , a good spec 350 , 130 bhp is € 45,000 , so that's with crude mathematics € 15,000 worth of free diesel, tax, insurance and servicing, 4yrs driving for a normal tradesmen, and still worth 60% of its initial cost when time to sell , EV transit would barely bring you from cavan to Dublin every day , then charge it, insure it and find someone to service it properly , sorry Derek but that's pure madness
Thanks for the comment Sean. Electric vans are still only suitable for certain use cases and the person travelling from Dublin to Cavan, it's not for them. Now sticking around Dublin maybe so. The larger companies who can work the numbers and swallow the initial price difference it will suit better.
Derek, will you reply to this comment?
Always
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I actually did not think that you would reply back, mind blown
I reply to every one at the moment. Thanks for the comment and engagement
So sorry about 100 miles wont good enough for electrician, plumber, HAVC ,….
At the moment it seems to just suit short delivery drivers
100 miles range in the usa is a joke unfortunately...
Agree. I'm test driving the Mercedes e-Vito tomorrow with 195 miles. Getting better but commercial needs more
Too bad you can't even buy one I've tried
Not out yet in Ireland Brandon but soon I'm told
@@NevoEVReviewIreland must be the only place left to purchase one the electricity here is around. 17 cents per kwh maybe electricity cost are higher there?
Yes, around 40c
@@NevoEVReviewIreland that makes since there would be some left to purchase even though the electric is still cheaper to own and operate its value is cut in half