The New Ford E-Transit Electric Van Is GREAT On a Road Trip for This One Reason!

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    0:00 Intro
    0:47 Features
    5:10 Road Trip!
    7:53 Highway
    10:34 Charging
    15:00 Vail Pass
    17:10 Charging Pt2
    19:51 Ike Gauntlet
    21:25 Something GREAT!
    22:49 Price
    24:05 Final Results
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  • @starrybear9778
    @starrybear9778 8 месяцев назад +5

    I own an E-Transit which is used as a service vehicle. We installed a Level 2 charger to fill up. So far this van has never seen a fast charger and plan to keep it that way. Have had it on the road since December 2022. This vehicle made perfect sense as my service area hasn't changed in over 20 years. 95% of our driving is in the city. This van is being used in the same means as the gas one we replaced which was very reliable. So far we are getting excellent efficiency on average of 2.5 kwh and that is loaded. Charging with a level 2 charger is significantly less for us to charge vs. gas in our previous vehicle. While the max range isn't as great compared my previous gas van, the efficiency is far greater. I have been very happy with it so far, very easy to drive and get in and out of tight spaces with the camera system. I drive it in Eco mode and use the regen braking a lot. Would like to see a Hydrogen version of this in the future but the infrastructure isn't there as we all know. We didn't by an electric van to save the planet, it just made sense for us. I do not agree that electric is the end all be answer and we need multiple options. I read the posts about the smaller 68 kilo battery installed but the more battery you add the payload capacity would diminish. I run machinery and tools in my van and use an inverter and 2 large AGM vehicle batteries to do so. If I lost power from those batteries, I can plug directly into Ford Pro Power and be up and running in seconds as a backup. Glad the Pro Power is there but so far haven't needed it.

  • @evevangelist5910
    @evevangelist5910 Год назад +56

    I would love to own an E-Transit for my furniture business, but I’d like to see them increase the range to around 250+ miles per charge. Located in rural Maine, we sometimes have to travel longer distances and the charging network is still sparse. I have a Chevy Bolt EV and it has around 250+- mile range and gets me most places without needing to charge until I get home.

    • @12vLife
      @12vLife Год назад +6

      Ram E-Promaster will be announcing their van with a 230 mile range before year end. 45k and qualifies for 7500 credit. Ford better step their game up quick.

    • @birdlady2725
      @birdlady2725 Год назад +2

      The bolt isnt hauling weight either, which will affect range too.

    • @chinabluewho
      @chinabluewho Год назад +4

      Just think if they had solar roofs , you would get another 30 to 50 miles in range daily for free as the Hyundai Sonata hybrid has a 200 watt solar panel on top and it gets 3 to 4 miles extra range a day.

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад +2

      buy it 3 tumé ³000 cyckes

  • @juspeezy9651
    @juspeezy9651 Год назад +10

    i had this truck for a week now. for one pedal you either double tap the brake or put in L mode with ECo.

  • @ZenEndurance
    @ZenEndurance Год назад +33

    Seems like electric is awesome for in-town where you recover energy often by braking AND where you can plug it in overnight. If that's your situation, these are amazing. Road tripping and/or you live somewhere where you have to find a charger all the time? Maybe not yet.

    • @WillTheBassPlayer
      @WillTheBassPlayer Год назад +3

      for sure, and that was sorta the intended design for the transit, like a delivery service of some kind that is going a defined route and is back at home base each night

    • @ZipZoomZip
      @ZipZoomZip Год назад +1

      Too bad Tesla doesn't make a van yet.

    • @arenjay3278
      @arenjay3278 3 дня назад

      Not quite like you say. Stop and go is much better than ICE but EVs work best with steady speed. Long down hills help with Regen but stop and go uses more than steady speed.

    • @ZenEndurance
      @ZenEndurance 3 дня назад

      @@arenjay3278 hmm…. Yes, but not high steady speed. 35 mph sure. 70 no way.

    • @arenjay3278
      @arenjay3278 3 дня назад

      @@ZenEndurance 60-63mph

  • @Jay-me7gw
    @Jay-me7gw Год назад +36

    While I find EV trucks generally silly, I really like the EV van concept a lot. I think it will fit right in to a lot of current commercial use models without issue.

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 Год назад +13

      Why do you find EV trucks silly? A truck with a similar purpose, like lawn maintenance equipment transported and towed locally, is a perfect use case for a similar EV pickup truck.
      Neither it nor this van are good for all cases (especially long travel), but for a local fleet these things are fantastic.

    • @ThatV8Ranger
      @ThatV8Ranger Год назад +8

      Walmarts by us use a bunch of these e transits for their home deliveries. Seem to work well for them!

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +5

      @@Cloud30000 All the lawn care people I see around here are using 10+ year old, beat to hell HD gas trucks so they can tow dump trailers and equipment trailers. I see very few 1/2 tons being used like that. Also, as seen here many times on TFL, the EV trucks get pretty poor range towing so when you spend 8-10 hour a day driving from house to house towing a trailer you are probably gunna be cutting it pretty close.
      Those same HD trucks get used to plow in the winter when people don't need their lawns taken care off. I am guessing some portion of the population doesnt have that issue but a good chunk does. this is another task that a EV truck is not suited for.
      Even the guys that come and do the weed killer and fertilizer at my house drive an F250 regular cab because the back has a massive tank of chemicals.
      Vans tend to have a job more in line with practical EV use.

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 Год назад +3

      @@Jay-me7gw wow, that is the opposite of the contractors around here. Separate HD plow trucks with heavy salters for winter, which get stored during summer in favor of full size pickups that tow ride in mowers while hauling the crew with blowers, trimmers, and other equipment. The material is either picked up by a different truck to save time and cost, or dumped at a designated composting area on site (generally down a hillside in a wooded area).
      Granted, we have very harsh winters and the area is fairly wealthy, so they are not just “handymen” with junk trucks that mow your lawn for a buck but actual professional contracts with well-maintained equipment or else they wouldn’t get hired.

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 Год назад +7

      @@Jay-me7gw I also find it interesting that you think EV trucks going house to house will have issues, but EV vans going house to house will not.
      I wonder if the idea of an electric pickup is more offensive then an electric van, and the actual utility of it is not relevant.

  • @doubleq1223
    @doubleq1223 Год назад +4

    This is a great idea! I used to work with someone who owns a commercial dishwasher business and he also made the soap in-house, a cool dude, but he was fangirling over an electric van 6 years ago and made some great points. Being in NYC, his run never exceeded 100 miles in a day, it was usually closer to 50 miles for a round trip and that's the majority of runs vehicles do in places like NYC, that's where these electric vehicles SHINE! Also, imagine covering the roof with solar panels! You don't realize how much square footage of space you have up there and how effective solar panels would be! No exhaust and no noise pollution in an already cramped city. I'm excited to see more electric commercial vehicles.

  • @morrigansraven61
    @morrigansraven61 Год назад +58

    Do they have hybrid models? I think hybrids are the best option until the battery/infrastructure tech matures to a point that the anxiety isn't such a problem. Driving any distance in our society is already a stressful situation due to idiots and the never ending road work. If you add more anxiety it kills whatever pleasure you can squeeze out of a road trip.

    • @nujjigram
      @nujjigram Год назад +2

      Hybrids take up too much space inside the van . These delivery vans have short haul requirements and probably won't need the additional complication in terms of cost of carrying around a full engine

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw Год назад +10

      This isnt meant for long distance rural driving. Its meant for local use in urban/suburban areas where charging is abundant or isnt required at all because they can accomplish the tasks on a single nightly charge. Plenty of places and jobs like that that this will work well for.

    • @iivaridark6850
      @iivaridark6850 Год назад +1

      In Europe, Ford did put a sorry turbocharged 1,0 liter inline-3 130hp gasoline engine from the little Fiesta and a small battery in a Transit Custom and wasted money on it. I think that was a complete disaster, seems to have disapppeared now. They have a small car (is it called Puma?) here and it has a 2,5 liter non-turbo gasoline engine and plug-in-system, it seems to have sold quite ok. A little surprise because I thought the engine (2,5 liter inline-4) is already outdated... They did have a modern turbocharged 1,5 liter inline-3 engine with about 185hp available but why didn't they use it, I don't know...

    • @natebaber4573
      @natebaber4573 Год назад +3

      There is a model with a back up generator installed

    • @craigkoskela1253
      @craigkoskela1253 Год назад

      Killing the ability to road trip IS their plan.

  • @hybrid.roodragon1226
    @hybrid.roodragon1226 Год назад +11

    America needs to freaking rethink the darn charging infrastructure

    • @ranig2848
      @ranig2848 Год назад

      It’s not America, it’s just Electrify America. Looks like VW who owns it is doing its best to cause people to think charging infra cannot be reliable

    • @1225KPH
      @1225KPH Год назад +2

      Charging? We don't make enough electricity to charge an all EV fleet and the national grid couldn't deliver it even if we did.

  • @fiddlesteven
    @fiddlesteven 9 месяцев назад +2

    I recently bought the long, tall E Transit. I'm converting it for camping. Really enjoying it. 122 miles of range is what I'm seeing, combination 60 miles per hour highway and some short trips around town. That's what the guessometer says, but I also am seeing 2.4 average miles per kWr, so the real range is much more than 122 miles. The battery is actually larger than 68 kW. I've heard it's over 70 with 68 usable.

  • @IronmanV5
    @IronmanV5 Год назад +13

    "EA.... the single biggest killer of EV adoption !"

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 Год назад +29

    It shouldn't be so complicated to charge a vehicle. It seems strange that there are issues charging so frequently.

    • @chrishansel9324
      @chrishansel9324 Год назад +2

      I agree there shouldn't be that many charging issues which there are usually not that many charging issues. Tfl just likes to take cars out without understanding how to charge them and then getting into trouble when they don't charge properly. Not to say I haven't experienced some charging problems ie chargers being down but I understand how to charge my car on Electrify America because I use them frequently. The directions on the charger are the opposite of the way I have to charge my car. That is because that's just the way it is set up. Now tfl don't seem to do their research before trying to go on a road trip with an electric vehicle and that is why they have problems

    • @tarfeef101
      @tarfeef101 Год назад +5

      @@chrishansel9324 alternative phrasing:
      Charging networks and EV manufacturers decided to prioritize their own desires for collecting data, having user accounts, lock-in for chargers, proprietary design, etc. over actually making things easy for consumers.
      The instructions not being the same for all vehicles, needing accounts, cell signal, etc. are all consequences of the design choices made by involved parties. That is bad. Could TFL mitigate some of these? Yes. Does them approaching things naively and failing exemplify how the charging system is worse than it needs to be? Also yes.

    • @chrishansel9324
      @chrishansel9324 Год назад +1

      @@tarfeef101 yes I know all this that is why I'm saying that tfl dramatizes everything for views and not to take them at 100%. I'm just trying to let people on here know that don't take everything to heart that you see on tfl if you want to learn about EVs go to state of charge or out of spec entertainment watch tfl

    • @chrishansel9324
      @chrishansel9324 Год назад +2

      @@IvanLitus I'm not being biased. I'm just trying to let the people know who are interested in purchasing electric vehicles that what they see is not reality

    • @Animalwon
      @Animalwon Год назад

      @@chrishansel9324 Can you illustrate the PROPER WAY to charge using Electrify America so that there are NO problems?

  • @scottmason2094
    @scottmason2094 Год назад +10

    I drive one every day and love it!

  • @AdrianMcDaid
    @AdrianMcDaid Год назад +10

    Perfect city delivery vehicle

    • @brianwilliams9316
      @brianwilliams9316 Год назад +1

      It would be. I wouldn’t mind seeing tests on one with larger batteries. My work day today consists of 80 miles. But I’d be loaded with tools. Some days I drive more, some days I drive less.

  • @jounipohjolainen2687
    @jounipohjolainen2687 Год назад +6

    I read most of the comments/complaints about the size of the battery and the poor state of the charging stations. As with all EV's, the range will be better in city and the owner/operator will have their own charging station at their shop, where the van will be charged overnight. Putting in a bigger battery would add significantly to the cost of the van and make it heavier (reduced payload/cargo volume) I am sure Ford has done their market research on what range a van will need to have to work a day in a city. Also, maybe the van can be plugged in for the lunch break. I am sure they will be in high demand. Kudos to Ford.

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 Год назад

      While I don't see these being plugged in during lunch breaks, I do see significant savings for the company while their employees eat lunch in the van with the A/C running.

  • @dgw4049
    @dgw4049 Год назад +58

    This van is for college campus & airport shuttles. Imagine how much money car rental companies near airports will save on fuel? Also for facility maintenance workers where the workers never leave that location. Using this as an airport maintenance guy where u just go from one end of the airport to the other all day is a really good move. Imagine working at a military base and having one of these. This is useful.

    • @danichicago9140
      @danichicago9140 Год назад +10

      As a worker on runways at a large international Airport I can assure you this is hilarious to hear. Our truck sometimes go weeks without being turned off. Imagine dodging planes on the taxiway with a low battery. Not to mention guys break everything they touch. If the diesel f350 tool bodies with cranes aren't tough enough this would last as long as a stuffed toy with my dog.

    • @Weak_juan
      @Weak_juan Год назад +8

      Youd have to charge this too frequently for heavy commercial use.

    • @sketchyssk8shop
      @sketchyssk8shop Год назад +4

      All the time charging is money wasted. A gas version would take less than 5 minutes to fill up to get 300 miles of range. But you would wait hours for this thing to fill the battery from nearly flat.

    • @jessaphillips2846
      @jessaphillips2846 Год назад +1

      @@Weak_juan most airport hotels have multiple vans they would just use it for like 4 hours then plug it in and unplug the fully charged van right next to it for the rest of the day.

    • @treboryelof1963
      @treboryelof1963 Год назад +10

      There is a fantastic use case for vehicles like this. What sense does it make to point out all the use cases where it doesn’t make sense!?!? My F150 Lightning can do 75% of what a gas truck can do and costs $13.00 to fill up. I am spending NO time worrying about the other 25%. There is no vehicle that does everything well, every vehicle is a trade off. But a vehicle that can do what this van does at a fuel cost of less than 1/3 of an ICE is something to celebrate not criticize!

  • @cmcb7230
    @cmcb7230 Год назад +78

    Every time you guys go to a charging station you have an issue. It’s ridiculous, they need to have actual people available at those stations. How on earth do the people pushing EV’s ever expect them to catch on if you can’t charge them?

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 Год назад +20

      Well said. Ford and the other automakers that plan to sell EVs need to attend to charging station reliability and availability ASAP.

    • @jamessue8358
      @jamessue8358 Год назад +9

      I have a 2019 bolt ev, been trying to complain about the charging ever since. (Falling on deaf ears)..🤔..🤣🤣..🙂

    • @gamebredduramax71
      @gamebredduramax71 Год назад

      And Governor’s like Gavin Newsom tells the citizens your not aloud to charge your electric cars on certain days of the week, and set your thermostat in your house at 78 degrees. EV’s is a scam to give government more power over the people hidden under the guise of Environmentally friendly. Even though nothing about it is environmentally friendly.

    • @KalleSWBeck
      @KalleSWBeck Год назад +8

      Maybe it’s a them problem? Lol charging isn’t that hard

    • @derekk6906
      @derekk6906 Год назад +1

      Sounds like a hassle and risk on road trips.

  • @tippytailmckitty2658
    @tippytailmckitty2658 Год назад +4

    I drove the Ike Gauntlet yesterday. My ears still hurt driving from Denver to Grand Junction through the Rockies. We even had a bag of Doritos pop from the pressure changes.

  • @floridamankyle5461
    @floridamankyle5461 Год назад +3

    Waiting for an E Transit with the Lightning power and battery capacity, for me, this is the only EV I would ever buy, a Van is the perfect platform for Electric.

  • @roypase8488
    @roypase8488 Год назад

    Thank you so much TFL...Been looking at any Transit period!!!

  • @ScottWallace5
    @ScottWallace5 Год назад +10

    Good updates! Definitely needs a bigger battery in my opinion. But once again, EA needs to get better with maintaining their chargers.

    • @verttikoo2052
      @verttikoo2052 Год назад +3

      You normally use this in the city where the range is longer than in the highway

  • @PlumbRalph
    @PlumbRalph Год назад +59

    I’m very interested in how it works at max payload and in winter cold. We have a small plumbing & HVAC business and use a transit Medium roof 148”WB with the 3.5 ecoboost engine and have it loaded and get around 16mpg. We average about 40 to 50 miles a day. I’d love to know if in the dead of winter running emergency heating repairs if we’d see the range drop to 1/2 or less when it’s fully loaded and cold out before we invest in the e transit.

    • @alisalama8598
      @alisalama8598 Год назад +8

      The low roof model does amazing for hvac, especially if you only do 50 miles. I do 80 and we doing just fine. As for winter im in Ga so im not too worried

    • @PlumbRalph
      @PlumbRalph Год назад +11

      Were in Massachusetts so we get pretty cold for a large part of the year so I’d need to see how it works fully loaded. I’d also want the high roof with the extended box. Loaded with shelving pipe, tools, parts, & fittings for service and repair & replacement work. It would ride around at close to max payload all the time.

    • @johnmorell2663
      @johnmorell2663 Год назад +11

      I say it's aways in the back of your mind what happens in a black out.
      Why aren't they putting solar panels on the roofs of these vehicles.

    • @heathmcintire1882
      @heathmcintire1882 Год назад +15

      @@johnmorell2663 It might be useful in the future as solar panels improve but today they only thing solar panels on a car roof are good for is trickle charging. The amount of power an EV needs VS the amount of power a car roof can produce are very far apart.

    • @johnmorell2663
      @johnmorell2663 Год назад

      @@heathmcintire1882 they can make better panels for sure.

  • @adamharris2674
    @adamharris2674 Год назад +10

    All these questions "How Will it work loaded, towing, in winter, blah blah blah..." You already know the answer to ALL these questions is..less range.

  • @nickhenderson1410
    @nickhenderson1410 Год назад +21

    Currently watching this on my lunch here at KCAP where these are made. Cool to finally see one of these out in the wild, nonetheless on TFL! It's been super cool watching this plant transform to be able to make the electric version and gas versions side by side. Believe my when I tell you there are a LOT of constraints on an already complicated vehicle that has three lengths and three heights to deal with. Looking forward to your testing of this thing.

  • @olebloom1641
    @olebloom1641 Год назад +2

    Looking forward to this series.

  • @seanhershey3390
    @seanhershey3390 Год назад +10

    I need one..perfect work van for me..

    • @markcoopers1930
      @markcoopers1930 Год назад +2

      I hope they grab a local contractor and do a ride along so we can see if it works. ideally someone with a regular E-350 to direct compare

    • @steinwaymodelb
      @steinwaymodelb Год назад +3

      @@markcoopers1930 Check out Smedley Plumbing's RUclips channel for their documentation of their E-Transit in real life.

  • @spillybuilt7491
    @spillybuilt7491 Год назад +1

    This is a good video proving even if you’re having issues with the chargers, you’re not stranded yet. You had nothing but problems with your charging stops yet you still made it np

  • @michigandon
    @michigandon Год назад +3

    Good ol' Electrojunk America!!!

  • @natebaber4573
    @natebaber4573 Год назад

    Great video Andre!

  • @J.Young808
    @J.Young808 Год назад +13

    It would be interesting if they make a passenger van for airport shuttles

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 Год назад +6

      They do. The E-Transit is available as a passenger van, cargo van, or chassis-cab.

  • @mts982
    @mts982 Год назад +5

    they need a bigger battery pack on that thing. should get at least 250 miles when filled to 80%.

    • @tazeat
      @tazeat Год назад

      cost cost cost, it will need to get there eventually, but smaller battery keeps costs reasonable for fleets today. I'm surprised there isn't a bigger battery option, but I assume that if you need more range, you're more cost effective to just get a gas van. Currently only a 68kWh usable battery option.

  • @eduardolopezlara7913
    @eduardolopezlara7913 Год назад +2

    Yeessss this is the content you need more, not all in life are pick up trucks we are people that we use vans. Awesome video continue like that ❤😅❤

  • @benleblanc3618
    @benleblanc3618 Год назад

    Good job love those results

  • @Dingus04
    @Dingus04 Год назад +4

    What I think is cool is at 2:08 he mentioned the battery gauge. Which looks like a fuel gauge. Funny enough, just like a fuel gauge, there is a small arrow letting you know where the charge port is located. 😂

  • @23billd
    @23billd Год назад +2

    So 2.4 miles per Kw-hr is not bad. Assume one Kw-hr costs about $0.18 and assume gas costs $5 per gallon. That means you'll get an equivalent of 66 mpg when compared to a gas vehicle.

  • @Matt-dx3wo
    @Matt-dx3wo Год назад +7

    Love it, can't wait for the standard lightning pack to be available in the e-transit. E-Vanlife here we come.

    • @chinabluewho
      @chinabluewho Год назад +3

      Just think if they had solar roofs , you would get another 30 to 50 miles in range daily for free as the Hyundai Sonata hybrid has a 200 watt solar panel on top and it gets 3 to 4 miles extra range a day.

    • @Actias1974
      @Actias1974 11 месяцев назад

      How much extra do you pay for those 3 extra miles a day? Doesn’t seem economical

    • @fiddlesteven
      @fiddlesteven 9 месяцев назад +1

      I bought a 2023 long, tall version to convert for camping and overnight stays. I carry a lot of band PA stuff. The van is perfect for my use. The only issue I have run into, is late night drive throughs at fast food restaurants have a nine-foot height limit, so the medium roof version might be a little better if you get hungry while traveling late at night. I did manage to clear one recently though by staying to the right in the lane and being careful. Watch your height on the tall vans. My other car is also an EV. A Bolt EUV.

  • @daviddenley3512
    @daviddenley3512 Год назад

    Good review, range better then I had expected!

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 Год назад +3

    I would absolutely buy one if it was AWD and had a range of 250 miles in a 1-ton high cab extended length. Sadly that configuration gives us 90 mile range.
    I have a 1-Ton 2020 AWD, 3.5 Ecoboost loaded. I build and remodel high end homes in North Ohio. 80% of the time I can get buy with 100 miles of range a day. 10% I can get by on 100-135 miles. The rest of the time I need up to 400 miles a day.
    Now, in the winter, I start the van 15 min before I start work to warm up the cab and start warming the battery tools that will not work if too cold.
    If ford offered a hybrid diesel transit… I’d be all in.

    • @J.Young808
      @J.Young808 Год назад +1

      I’d love a Diesel hybrid

  • @2018tundra
    @2018tundra Год назад +7

    On the outlet the have on the back . We can’t plug 🔌 any tools because not enough range. Thanks Andy.

  • @ThatVeryArtGal
    @ThatVeryArtGal Год назад +1

    Great review and practical road test. I live in Colorado so it's good to know what the challenges and plusses are. Love that downhill gravity bonus! Something for folks to remember - there is a federal EV benefit of $7500, so if this vehicle is $9k over a gas version, it's a no-brainer. I just WISH it had more range or a larger battery option for more range. I want to go electric, but I feel like constant charging will get old real fast.

  • @racingfortheson
    @racingfortheson Год назад +15

    Please max the payload and range test it 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @Tigermoto
      @Tigermoto Год назад +5

      This! I mean if it's not full it's not a working van. Contractors will have it full of shelves, tools, hauling stuff for a job. An empty van is a worthless test.

    • @derekk6906
      @derekk6906 Год назад

      I am sure their reviews of the EVs have to be positive, otherwise the manufacturers will stop supplying vehicles for them to review. That would be a disaster for the RUclips channel.

    • @foellerd
      @foellerd Год назад +1

      They won’t. They’re protecting these vans for some reason. Maybe a paid review. Glossed over the literal Nissan leaf sized battery it has.

    • @racingfortheson
      @racingfortheson Год назад +2

      I don’t agree with people saying they won’t give it a honest review

    • @1225KPH
      @1225KPH Год назад +3

      Testing an empty work van is BS.

  • @westeed1
    @westeed1 Год назад +2

    Andre, are you going to take on tumbleweed ranch with the buhanka?

  • @doublebackagain4311
    @doublebackagain4311 Год назад +4

    You can add charge anxiety to range anxiety -

  • @larkbird
    @larkbird 2 месяца назад

    5:51 The Force is strong with this one!

  • @Augiebracerofam
    @Augiebracerofam Год назад

    Return to Prudhoe Bay! Could be more comfortable than a canvas tent on a pickem up. Thank you for sharing and have a great day!

  • @adamackels73
    @adamackels73 11 месяцев назад +1

    Absolute great video! I actually ordered one of these today, through Ken Garff. Mine is High Roof, Long Wheelbase (not extended). I went through $700 in fuel last month in my 2019 Chevy Express 1-ton Van. All in all, the E-Transit is about $65k with a lot of toys on it... Trading my Tesla Model Y for the down payment..

  • @morrigansraven61
    @morrigansraven61 Год назад +14

    Once you add in charging times imagine how long an employee would be sitting idle during an average day. Time is Money, even if it is a private vehicle on a vacation trip.

    • @mikebandw186
      @mikebandw186 Год назад +2

      What about regen braking? What if they never leave a 50 mile radius and recharge overnight? Your concerns are valid, but likely overthought for most city workers.

    • @nujjigram
      @nujjigram Год назад +2

      Those employees have fixed idle time. As a delivery van this works well

    • @joedoesfun9336
      @joedoesfun9336 Год назад +1

      You most likely would just steer the lazy thieves into slacking while charging instead of stealing from their company while they're supposed to be working so it would all work out. Also, most service workers don't put 100+ miles on their trucks during one day so these can charge at the shop overnight and be ready to go in the morning.

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 Год назад +1

      These vans are for local delivery/work (cabinet installers, florists, internet/cable techs, etc.) where people average 60-80 miles of driving each day, not road trips. They will not need to be charged except at night.

    • @larrysmith6797
      @larrysmith6797 Год назад

      @@joedoesfun9336 Most likely, you aren't too bright.

  • @josephhacker5358
    @josephhacker5358 Год назад +8

    Adding an hour to the 200mi road trip isn't acceptable. Besides that, I can see the stress/frustration on your face as you have to deal with charging stations that aren't available and having to calculate how/when to charge. This vehicle is obviously meant to stay in a city and do short trips, I'd imagine if your business could run it for a full day of deliveries and then charge overnight, this makes sense, but otherwise, not so much.

    • @justinborysenko3885
      @justinborysenko3885 Год назад +6

      My town is filled with lawn services, pool services and plumbers. Most don’t leave our town and certainly not county in the vehicle lifetime. This is perfect almost no operating costs

    • @CaliRob281
      @CaliRob281 Год назад +2

      @@justinborysenko3885 yikes, it has many operating costs and took a 4 hr roadtrip and made it last all day

    • @KalleSWBeck
      @KalleSWBeck Год назад +2

      Correct it’s meant for local work

    • @derekk6906
      @derekk6906 Год назад +1

      All EVs are meant to stay in the city and do short trips. Maybe that is the goal, eliminate the Great American Road Trip.

  • @benb6691
    @benb6691 10 месяцев назад

    Look at that charging location. I love it.

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 Год назад

    Good video. What is the towing capacity? Will be interesting to see how range and efficiency is impacted by payload and towing. If you plan to do a constant speed range test, please consider a loop style test (end up where you started). Could you consider a 0 to 100% charging cycle then show the charging curve? Also, maybe you could simulate an all day delivery cycle with 20 to 30 delivery points. Would also be interesting to understanding charging on a typical 240V/40 amp circuit. Thanks again.

  • @benilk5716
    @benilk5716 Год назад +6

    Thank you Andre for reviewing vans!

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 Год назад +1

    Does the inverter powering the outlets in the rear of the truck draw directly from the high-voltage battery, or does it go through the 12v battery?

  • @BrandanM94
    @BrandanM94 Год назад

    Andre stop into dunkin on Huron I need a coffee lol the only TFL member I know of that lives in Thornton area so close to me. Love the content. Keep it up guys!

  • @ranig2848
    @ranig2848 Год назад +3

    Electrify America should add the tag name “guaranteed to fail”. This is not a charging station issue, it’s and Electrify America issue. It’s as if VW (who owns it) is doing whatever it can to slow down the transition and make people think chargers are unreliable. I’ve been using the Tesla SuperCharger network for years and never encountered a single broken charger (with the exception of one that was vandalized). When complaining about charging station please clarify it’s not a charging issue, it’s an electrify America issue.

    • @carl8790
      @carl8790 Год назад +1

      Andre keeps saying it's a grid issue too. The grid has nothing to do with EA's lousy charging infrastructure.

    • @ranig2848
      @ranig2848 Год назад +1

      @@carl8790 Agree. It's the grid issue as much as a Windows laptop crashing is a grid issue... many other networks work great on the same grid.

  • @georgecampbell2279
    @georgecampbell2279 Год назад +3

    Do the same trip with the 3400 pounds in the back.

  • @joecharmley
    @joecharmley Год назад +1

    This would be great college , airport , part mover fan , mail van as well

  • @herbwheeler4470
    @herbwheeler4470 Год назад +3

    If anyone has never been over the rockies I highly recommend it.

  • @nlken7175
    @nlken7175 Год назад +3

    Time is money for a business. Only good for in city delivery vehicle.

  • @glennkverneland833
    @glennkverneland833 Год назад

    Thank you Andre! What was the cost difference compared with a gas (ecoboost 3.5) model?

  • @fgxw8
    @fgxw8 Год назад +2

    If you bought that vehicle for around-town deliveries, it's a pretty good choice. In town, driving stresses a power train, especially when idling in the summer heat, leading to maintenance issues. Of course, the range wouldn't be an issue. However, you would be ill-advised to buy this vehicle to run the Gauntlet and Vale's Pass daily with a full load. I'm sure more well-suited EVs are on the way.

  • @riverakers
    @riverakers Год назад +1

    With all that roof area. Why not cover it in solar panels for helping recharge the batteries when not in use?

  • @heldert6231
    @heldert6231 Год назад +2

    After driving an Econoline for over 15 years and serving me well (huge gas expenses though) I'm now driving a Transit w ecoboost and Very Happy with it! I want the E-transit next but I'm concerned about paying 60K (almost 2x what i paid for current) and waiting months for a truck that offers less... Please convince otherwise...

    • @skyemalcolm
      @skyemalcolm Год назад +1

      Up front cost is less but you have to include the extra you spend in fuel and maintenance every year on the ecoboost transit. Also if you’re a commercial ford customer they can probably help you with the analysis.

  • @mattheww1429
    @mattheww1429 Год назад +1

    My biggest complaint is why the heck didn't Ford install a generator on this to give you extra range if necessary or to help people with range anxiety. I test drove one here in austin. We drove 60 miles on a straight road with 6 people and we only had 5 miles left when we got back. These transits are only rated 118 miles completely empty. This is why you don't see anyone using these carrying any kind of weight. Even if you had a 300 mile range you'd be lucky to get 120 miles out of it carrying anything.

  • @georgepelton5645
    @georgepelton5645 Год назад +4

    Actually the grid is as reliable as gas stations, it is only the EV chargers that have reliability issues. Tesla uses the same utility grid, and has about 99.9% uptime for their superchargers.

    • @foellerd
      @foellerd Год назад +3

      Actually the result is the same no matter how you word it, unreliability. Call it what you want, you end up with the same problem, can’t charge the vehicle, aka, unreliable.

    • @georgepelton5645
      @georgepelton5645 Год назад +2

      @@foellerd True for CCS cars, but it is not just a choice of words. The words “grid” vs. “charger” describe when in the supply chain the reliability problem exists. CCS unreliability is not the fault of the electric utilities. The same utilities supply Tesla superchargers, and I never have had an issue charging my Teslas over hundreds of road trips, and other Tesla owners report the same.

  • @dudehere340
    @dudehere340 Год назад +4

    Great, so you can power your circular saw then spend the night on the job site in the roomy back end because you don't have enough juice to get home. 👎

    • @joedoesfun9336
      @joedoesfun9336 Год назад

      What model of circular saw do you have that uses 68,000 watts in one hour??

  • @carlosjavier9584
    @carlosjavier9584 Год назад +1

    Place the order on mine July 15 still waiting lol I’m here in Aurora Colorado seen many getting 150 miles plus on this van cost for Mantaince and charge is gonna blow my Mercedes Sprinter expense away !!!!

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      buy merçasde 15⁰ muóe rañge ñeww one 220 mioe elresàç rañge

  • @pernell4351
    @pernell4351 Год назад

    know where you are at. Every time we go to Colorado on vacation that’s area my Cousin live in. They in New Castle. we stay in Frisco Colorado use that as a midway point.

  • @kahless0173
    @kahless0173 Год назад +2

    Terrible charge rate. They needed it to charge at least at fast as the lightning with that smaller battery.

  • @IcRedeye
    @IcRedeye Год назад +3

    I would like to see you drive it empty to the top of the Ike gauntlet, then load something like a side by side in it to achieve max payload. Then see how much energy you could put back into it going down the mountain.

    • @larrysmith6797
      @larrysmith6797 Год назад

      This is stupider than driving downhill both ways.

  • @juliogonzo2718
    @juliogonzo2718 Год назад +1

    The screen on the charger does not say if the 13.158 is kw/h but if it is then that only got 25 miles of range for $5.59 which is not very competitive against gas

  • @laloajuria4678
    @laloajuria4678 Год назад

    still refers to dcfc as lvl 3. using work utility not as intended. thanks for the ongoing ev promotion tfl!

  • @jamesclapp6940
    @jamesclapp6940 Год назад +2

    We just finished a 10 day trip to Glacier National Park in a 2017 Impala 3.6 V-6, got an average of 32.1 mpg with elevations of 7800 ft and temps in the high 90F speeds across Nevada were 80 mph and the speed limits in Idaho and Montana were 75 ! cost was about $425. with the lowest price fuel for 87 was $3.88 with the high of $4.39

  • @matthewpixley4941
    @matthewpixley4941 Год назад +4

    Funny no one ever mentions strip mining and other mining to acquire nickel, cobalt, and other minerals for these batteries. The green movement is just a shell game!

  • @jcnredpizzawindow2219
    @jcnredpizzawindow2219 Год назад

    I got ave a question I imagine the E-transit is geared for city driving my question is if it possible to change the rear end gearing to get better highway range?

  • @MrIpjrobson
    @MrIpjrobson Год назад

    I hope that as commercial EVs become more popular we will see it drive down costs of residential Cars. Perhaps it will expand and improve the charging network in Ontario canada

  • @s.porter8646
    @s.porter8646 Год назад

    I have an AZURE, Fords, first attempt at the E-Van, it's a great van, 80 miles range, having gone through several EV's Ford can dominate if they get options for lager packs, although average is 80 miles commute, others that want this want over 200 mile range.

  • @RADAdv346
    @RADAdv346 Год назад +8

    Loaded with a tools 1t and see if it can make it across Denver

    • @Ecostainable
      @Ecostainable 2 месяца назад

      It barely drops in efficiency. Can easily get 90 miles a day on the coldest day, heater on all day, fully loaded, driving all around town. 120+ miles not fully loaded and still abusing the A/C and/or heating system also while using power tools with inverter. These vans are way better than people realize but of course there will be people who will want electric to fail for some reason.

  • @ccroson7935
    @ccroson7935 Год назад +6

    When they get the 500 miles of range I might consider buying one for my company

    • @sharonbraselton4302
      @sharonbraselton4302 Год назад

      405 mioe teksa slóíd syàte bayedd 500 miless

    • @ccroson7935
      @ccroson7935 Год назад +1

      @@sharonbraselton4302 what are you talking about?

  • @Pijo_
    @Pijo_ 6 месяцев назад

    @TFLtruck did you forget to close the partition door before you left or was the door latch not working well? 😂😂😂. How was the noise level during the ride?…was the partition louder than most with rattle or anything like that?

  • @bubbajoo
    @bubbajoo Год назад

    So what's the cost of tires and miles you get on them? How does a full load affects range? How does cold affects the battery? How's battery life for hilly/mountainous terrain?

  • @slipppete
    @slipppete Год назад

    Woooo hit the road! For a short while!

  • @chrishansel9324
    @chrishansel9324 Год назад +1

    I love how it still has a fuel gage

  • @MrMr123
    @MrMr123 Год назад

    Seeing this dude having anxiety attacks about running out of power reminds of the time I got a Nissan leaf and hated it 😂😂😂

  • @Qrail
    @Qrail Год назад +2

    Thanks for the review. I learned a lot. I think if you used the L button, you could get max regen. (That’s how it works on my Fusion Energi). As a former van fleet owner, (8 Dodge B350 vans). I could see one of these on my Christmas wish list.

  • @Animalwon
    @Animalwon Год назад +1

    They should have added that Transmission dial to the Electric F-150 (Lightning)! I would order it instead of the collapsing stick shift.

  • @Tin00E
    @Tin00E Год назад +4

    Thank you for the review. I am hoping they bring a plug-in hybrid power train to this model. That way I could have the efficiency of electric around town and then for my longer trips I have the range and towing capability of petrol. Plus if a few years from now if my battery weakens, I always have the petrol option.

  • @brandonterry4638
    @brandonterry4638 Год назад +1

    Man,any TFL video puts me to sleep..I have seriously been waiting on those monotone voices and lack of action...just Dulwich tones and droning..thanks guys,I'm not even joking the best sleep meds

  • @AZRockRunner
    @AZRockRunner Год назад +1

    Bring in the hybrid for the RVers please.

  • @petenelson8136
    @petenelson8136 Год назад +7

    Soooooo much time spent at charging stations. Stations that don't work, or charge slowly. I'll be sticking with my gas hybrid for now.

  • @brianb-p6586
    @brianb-p6586 Год назад

    That "middle" length is the longer of the two wheelbases (148"), but without the longest body extension in the back.

  • @HammVan
    @HammVan Год назад

    i heard on the tesla tires need to be changed every year due to battery size, is that the case on the electric cargo van?

  • @bobyad4879
    @bobyad4879 Год назад

    Please tell us how much was spent on both charging stations?

  • @jackthibodeau6810
    @jackthibodeau6810 Год назад +2

    That is dumb charger placement. Imagine what would happen if you got an a minor minor front end collision and bent that. Imagine the cost of fixing that

  • @vikingbase
    @vikingbase Год назад

    My Chrysler Pacifica PHEV if charging and you open the hood the charging stops... I live in Vegas and wanted extra fans blowing in engine compartment but had to blow through the grill.

  • @robertmcdougall6143
    @robertmcdougall6143 Год назад

    What are the charging costs per kilowatt hour if you don’t mind

  • @cyberoptic5757
    @cyberoptic5757 Год назад

    Driving over a mountain range is not a use case I'm considering. Near Portland Maine, we might go from sea level to 500' and back. Mostly under 300'

  • @sierrawilliams5982
    @sierrawilliams5982 Год назад

    How much did each charge up cost?

  • @ctsingletrack
    @ctsingletrack Год назад

    They're almost there. I would love to try electric, but I drive my van 120 miles per day for some of my jobs. I'm also using my van to carry a payload, as will basically everyone who is buying a cargo van. I really wish the Transit had range comparable to the F150.

  • @12vLife
    @12vLife Год назад

    Anybody know the 12v battery is on this van? How big is the battery tray? Would this van send extra current sent to the 12 to the powertrain battery? Any way to trickle charge the powertrain battery with a single 700w 50v solar panel? I'd engineer that and not void my warranty.

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 Год назад +1

    I hate those front side window shapes. The curved lower portion is not conducive to placing your arm up on the door with the window open when the weather is nice.

  • @peterwilkinson1975
    @peterwilkinson1975 9 месяцев назад

    Rear wheel drive would suck in the winter in Colorado (grand lake here)