Which Souls Game Has The Best Hexes?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025

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  • @adamyohan
    @adamyohan 11 месяцев назад +281

    I can't believe he edged sister Friede

    • @Humorousfellow
      @Humorousfellow 11 месяцев назад +4

      💀

    • @toiletgod96
      @toiletgod96 11 месяцев назад

      fr 💀

    • @joelogan377
      @joelogan377 11 месяцев назад +22

      Well he kind of had to. They didn’t add climax to DS3

    • @WeirdTroll666
      @WeirdTroll666 5 месяцев назад

      fr

    • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn
      @urtoryu_dy_althraidn Месяц назад

      @@joelogan377 Yeah, completely denying us climax in DS3 was pretty evil of them.

  • @cawdaddy
    @cawdaddy 11 месяцев назад +181

    6:06 YOU DID WHAT TO SISTER FRIEDE?

  • @Battleguild
    @Battleguild 11 месяцев назад +60

    DS2 has the best Spellcaster support series. It's not just "buff damage stacking" and "dexterity determines cast speed" like DS3 and Elden Ring.

    • @Mo_Mudabber
      @Mo_Mudabber 11 месяцев назад +9

      Elden ring is still better that that ds2💀

    • @Battleguild
      @Battleguild 11 месяцев назад +44

      ​@@Mo_Mudabber
      Elden Ring is so awfully barebones that it only looks good because it came after the dumpster fire of a spellcasting system that DS3 had.
      DS2 actually had Caster support and wasn't trying to push every Caster into a Spellsword like Elden Ring does.
      Spellswords are a neat concept...until nearly everyone else is also a Spellsword.

    • @griffendesai2039
      @griffendesai2039 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@Mo_Mudabber🙄🙄🙄

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@Battleguild agreed.

    • @Battleguild
      @Battleguild 11 месяцев назад +3

      @spaceman10th31
      I would, but RUclips always shadow deletes my posts when I make an itemized list of DS2's pros over the others.

  • @pockystyx4087
    @pockystyx4087 11 месяцев назад +121

    dks2 has the best grape flavored magic, by far.

    • @ladonmccabe
      @ladonmccabe 11 месяцев назад +7

      I’m not a big fan of Ds2, but I agree. It was my fav build in that game too

  • @someperson2612
    @someperson2612 11 месяцев назад +82

    Bro, tibia summons at 2:28 is actually deplorable 💀

  • @VileLasagna
    @VileLasagna 11 месяцев назад +26

    If I'm not mistaken, Hexes in DS2 got some intense nerfs along the way to bring them where they are now. I played a fair amount hexing in DS2 and it was fun enough, they ended up in a good place even if I hate the idea of consuming souls per cast. Miracles definitely the way to go, though, they are super busted in that game
    One thing I DO miss from that game are weapon catalysts. Something like Mace of the Insolent or the Twin Spellblade would be super fun in Elden Ring. Powerstancing that mace with something else and then having access to the two weapon moveset AND some support casting on the fly was pretty dang nice

    • @resm-oe9ji
      @resm-oe9ji Месяц назад

      DS3 had a couple of these, but since you can't buff them they don't come close to being as good as the DS2 ones.

  • @AverageDoctor345
    @AverageDoctor345 11 месяцев назад +36

    6:06 Chat what did he mean by this

  • @Abyzz_Knight
    @Abyzz_Knight 11 месяцев назад +4

    7:00 if you specifically want to use pure sorceries alongside hex sorceries you can still do good damage. Murky longstaff is designed to be a pure intelligence dark staff. It's best at 45 intelligence. It will be slightly weaker than court sorcerer's staff for pure sorceries but will have better dark damage
    Edit: Oh and if you want sorceries and miracles to scale with faith and intelligence then use the crystal chime. It doesn't do good dark damage though so you're gonna still have to use izalith staff and sunless talisman/caitha's chime for hexes.

  • @jt263
    @jt263 11 месяцев назад +2

    The high hex requirements in DS2 are not that high since there's a mechanic for lowering spell requirements and the required materials can be farmed pretty easily.

  • @griffendesai2039
    @griffendesai2039 11 месяцев назад +25

    I think there are a lot of reasons why people like hexes better than miracles in ds2. They look cooler, climax/grs/rs are just some of the best spells from soft has ever created, and hexes are great for PvP as well as pve. Miracles are great for pve but they suck ass for PvP, while hexes just do both.
    Also the requirements are crazy but you just gotta use spice my guy. In ds2 you can use spice to decrease the int or faith requirement of a spell. A Very cool mechanic that I wish they’d bring back, especially for Elden ring.

    • @TheSuperRatt
      @TheSuperRatt 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is a caveat to the spice. If you don't meet the original requirements of a spell, then you will take a not insignificant reduction to spell effectiveness. Less damage, healing, damage resistance, etc. but that's because the efficacy of a spell is dependent on the player's respective attributes, and not an effect of the spice, just wanted to clear that up. Still, it's often better to get access to a spell earlier than not having it at all!

    • @griffendesai2039
      @griffendesai2039 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheSuperRatt yes! This is true! However as someone who has used this tactic for hexes specifically, I think it’s worth it in the end!

    • @resm-oe9ji
      @resm-oe9ji Месяц назад

      DS2 is also a lot more generous with levels than the other games. You can easily hit the soft caps for 2 of your damage stats while still having a good amount of vigor, endurance and adaptability before even going into drangleic castle. So spell requirement is never a big concern even if you don't use spices.

  • @Maxbeedo2
    @Maxbeedo2 11 месяцев назад +2

    Loved the hexes in DS2, used them in my platinum runs in both versions, mainly Dark Orb and Great Resonant Soul. Reliable high damage with quick casts from most Chimes, and enough casts to clear most full levels as a pure caster. A lot of the Chimes being able to cast both Hexes and Miracles helped too.

  • @ladonmccabe
    @ladonmccabe 11 месяцев назад +9

    Hexes in Ds2 we’re considered broken because of resonant soul in Pvp one shotting people

    • @castilloespinoza9726
      @castilloespinoza9726 11 месяцев назад

      just imagine survive a climax hit

    • @tardistrailers
      @tardistrailers 11 месяцев назад

      Spamming Dark Fog as Looking Glass Knight invader was also a fun time.

  • @saishi9876
    @saishi9876 11 месяцев назад +38

    could you rank guts greatsword across the games

    • @rvril
      @rvril 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah sure I got you

    • @s4mcote
      @s4mcote 11 месяцев назад +3

      I think it’s:
      1 - Elden Ring
      2 - Dark Souls 2
      3 - Dark Souls 3
      Might be wrong for 2 and 3, but it’s just so good in Elden Ring.

    • @Invader_Hex
      @Invader_Hex 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@s4mcote I think the main thing that puts the Elden Ring Guts Greatsword above it's predecessors is the fact that you can put so many different Ashes Of War on it, which you obviously can't do in the dark souls games.

    • @carlschrappen9712
      @carlschrappen9712 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Invader_HexLion's Claw and Giant Hunt on the Greatsword are so good, the former of which let's you cosplay as Guts himself.

    • @parkout95
      @parkout95 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@s4mcoteDS 3 chaos Greatsword deals a lot more damage than DS 2

  • @EldenXord
    @EldenXord 11 месяцев назад +6

    I edge to Sister Friede too ngl

  • @WUZLE
    @WUZLE 11 месяцев назад +9

    20 casts of Dark Orb to START WITH in DS2, not counting Attunement bonuses, beats out the 3 casts you get of Lightning Spear any day of the week. It's not hard to get a second Dark Orb and eventually you can even have three, which is all the offensive spells you really need as by that time three will give you 70+ casts. Plus you can get the best hex staff in the game very early on. I'd argue that Sorcery is almost as good as you can also get the best sorcery staff in the game pretty early on, but offensive Faith spells have sucked since they nerfed casts into the ground.

  • @SrTNick1
    @SrTNick1 11 месяцев назад +13

    Dude complained about ds2 stat requirements as if spices don't exist and aren't the easiest thing ever to farm.

  • @PatGunn
    @PatGunn 7 дней назад

    Ancient death rancor is actually a great spell, and the pod staff is also great; the spell lets you set up a standing wave of damage with stun that keeps opponents from successfully getting too close before they die. It's very safe and very effective.

  • @vitorvena
    @vitorvena 11 месяцев назад +20

    DS2 to this day still has the best magic system in general...

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul 11 месяцев назад +1

      I hope we return to it someday..

    • @vitorvena
      @vitorvena 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@xXLunatikxXlul Same... atleast Elden Ring took some steps unlime Ds3 which just went backwards on basically everything...

    • @michaeledmunds7056
      @michaeledmunds7056 11 месяцев назад +3

      I like that attunement was actually (more) useful in DS2

    • @xXLunatikxXlul
      @xXLunatikxXlul 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@vitorvena agreed. I hope the DLC brings back passive fp/mana regen via infusion or a headpiece/talisman/weapon(like Crown of the Old Iron King) :)

    • @vitorvena
      @vitorvena 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@xXLunatikxXlul honestly id rather have farmable Starlight Shards and while at it a full revamp of the "exceedingly rare" items so we can reliably farm them like how we can St.Trina sleep lillies!

  • @Xportbob
    @Xportbob 11 месяцев назад +10

    Dark Souls 2 hexes have gotten nerfed on mulitple occassions and ALL sorceries, Hexes, miracles and pyromancies have been nerfed multiple times in Dark Souls 2’s history. They were some of the most overpowered One shot menaces ever fathomed and were extremely easy to have setup.
    Then there is the pvp side of things, Hexes in pvp just straight up were one shot kills without great magic barrier. Pursuers was the most villainous spell that can directly OHKO and Great Resonant Soul comes out so unbelievably fast with among some of the highest projectile speed in the game.
    DS2 Hexes were beyond versatile, broken and the three dlcs were specifically designed to have as high Lightning, Magic, Fire and Dark resistance as possible to counteract them. They were just THAT broken even after nerfs
    This is why they are hyped up somuch lmao

    • @zubroskadamien5883
      @zubroskadamien5883 8 месяцев назад

      You forgot super easy spells parries and shields with 100% elemental resistance.
      Magic infused lllewyn shield has 85-90% physical and elemental resistance for only 4-5 kg…
      Elemental resistance is easy to have without stat in intel and faith.
      Only outcry after a backstab is hard to escape ( even with quick rolls) but I ce never loose a fight against a pure caster in DS2 PvP.
      It s a skill issue IMO.

  • @JackCattGaming
    @JackCattGaming 11 месяцев назад

    A lot of people have mentioned DS2 hexes nerf due to PvP but it's also worth noting they were the strongest speedrun build, it's hard to find videos for it but if you can it's worth checking out

  • @ainsly19
    @ainsly19 11 месяцев назад +1

    Long live the attunement glitch in DS2 😅👌🏿

  • @AceAviations2
    @AceAviations2 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Black Witch's Staff exists in Dark Souls 2, the SINGLE most versatile spell casting tool From has ever put into one of their games alongside the Sanctum Shield. The only thing that they can't cast are Pyromancies, EVERY OTHER SPELL IN THE GAME can be cast with them. Offensive Miracles suffer the most since it can't be Lightning Infused, but all other Miracles can be used with it. Yes it's weaker than the (super fashionable) Sunset Staff and Caithas' Chime or the Chime of Want, but given that you only need one spell casting tool it's a pretty good tradeoff.
    Also for DS3 the Crystal Chime scales most of its spells (excluding direct Healing Spells, Weapon Buffs and the Physical Miracles) off of both Intelligence and Faith, it's not ideal for casting Dark spells (on a dedicated Pyromancer or Hexer build the Archdeacon's Great Staff is better for Sorceries when you factor in Steady Chant), but it's the best way to cast Lightning Miracles outside of PvP for those builds. It's a must-have for Midir on Pyromancer or Hexer builds as you can cast Pestilent Mist with it if you want to use it.

  • @NatMage
    @NatMage 7 месяцев назад +1

    The thing about DS2 hexes isn't that they're broken imo, it's just that they're cool

  • @peteybakedziti8908
    @peteybakedziti8908 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cool cool, now which stonesword key uses are the best? Im still waiting for the full ranking

  • @jamiekb9v
    @jamiekb9v 11 месяцев назад +6

    ahh another aspect of the game elden ring took a backstep in..
    I hope they give this justice in the DLC (alongside pyromancy, good looking fashion, scaling infusions, paired weapons, 1h ss & more)

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 11 месяцев назад +4

      I agree with dark magic and the 1h-straight sword, but the rest is fine. Pyromancies are now in the Faith tree and pretty damn good, you get scaling infusions through ashes of war (thank god i don't have to farm stones anymore) and the fashion is pretty aight.

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@kimashitawa8113 too many pyromancies are missing in ER it was stripped down. no black serpent equivalent, vestiges/forbidden sun (giantsflame is super strong but arched), profaned flame, sacred flame, surge flame is garbage, no phalanx equivalents either. Fell god needs a weaker faster version. overall it makes the gameplay super 1 dimensional (just spam giantsflame at range, catch flame close) especially compared to glintstone mages which have mutiple spells for each situation.
      and as for fashion i think it's fair to say theres too many meme armors. everyone can look like clowns. whereas for ds3 there was like half a dozen variations of knight armor you could mess around with.
      in regards to scaling I mean no int/faith scaling let alone choosing between chaos/dark which is a mindblowing decision. makes int/faith builds in ER so painful

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jamiekb9v I feel that Pyromancy was stripped down because it was meant to be used with miracles like Lightning Spear, but i don't completely disagree.
      I feel like there is enough cool armour to compensate for the meme pieces.
      Now that i know what you mean with the infusion part i completely agree. They put in spells like the Golden Order Miracles which scale with both, but then have no viable weapons to compliment builds like that besides maybe the Sword Of Night And Flame.
      One thing i personally miss a lot are Catalyst/Weapon hybrids like Blue Flame from DS2 or the Demon Scar.
      Fortunately they will release the first DLC-trailer tomorrow! So let's hope for the best!

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v 11 месяцев назад

      @@kimashitawa8113 yep hopefully they show off missing stuff either tomorrow or in a future extended trailer! hyped

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v 11 месяцев назад +1

      @spaceman10th31 100%, they don't need to recycle spells. however some of those spells had key distinct gameplay differences, like black serpent is so unique. not having a dot floor spell too. not having these variations objectively takes away from the playstyle and makes them more 1 dimensional and gutted.

  • @EkleipsisTM
    @EkleipsisTM 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was baited into thinking this was a top of ds2 best weapons, but I'm not disappointed

  • @Albania4life535
    @Albania4life535 11 месяцев назад +6

    You did lots of edging to Sister Frieda 🤨🤨🧐🧐🧐

  • @Panurome
    @Panurome 11 месяцев назад

    You can use regular spells and miracles with a hex build in DS3, you just need the crystal chime which escales with both int and faith

  • @maggot848
    @maggot848 5 месяцев назад

    99int and 99faith prince of death staff does the most damage on spells, straight up, and the ancient death rancor spell does around 2k damage without buffs, chases enemies and does a lot of poise damage

  • @aardappelgang6335
    @aardappelgang6335 11 месяцев назад

    Definitly gonne use this video as edging tips

  • @orionizaqt
    @orionizaqt 6 месяцев назад +4

    Why were hexes not in Elden Ring as pure arcane spells? Seems like that would've fit super well

  • @OG_Luciano
    @OG_Luciano 4 месяца назад

    Ds2 Dark orb is so satisfying.

  • @CivSki
    @CivSki 11 месяцев назад +1

    Elden Ring DLC announcement tomorrow!
    Make a video!!

  • @frontlife900
    @frontlife900 5 месяцев назад

    Hexes are dark magic actually. Something looks black, dark, works in a way it would put enemy in a disadvantageous situation like silencing you make you unable to cast spells, like make you move slower. And since Hexes deal great stamina damage and Black Flame does it pretty great also since it is from the Abyss which is the place Hexes are born you should consider Black Flame as a Hex. Just because Hexes are invented by DS2 doesn't mean it can properly categorize what spells are a Hex. You should look at the way of the spell works, looks and where it is found.

  • @lukefitton7329
    @lukefitton7329 3 месяца назад

    While it’s true that DS1’s Dark Orb isn’t quite as good as Dark Bead or Pursuers, “average at best” certainly isn’t how I’d describe it. It’s one of if not THE most reliable way of dealing with Mobs and some Bosses at range (you were obliterating Seath with it too.) Its casting speed is still fairly quick and will rarely be interrupted due to the slow pace of DS1 enemies or your potential high poise. The fact that it’s only 1 slot but has 12 uses is absurd. Crystal Soul Spear may outdamage it a little but Dark Orb has triple its uses. Then the physical split makes it viable against absolutely anything. It’s lethal and you can keep getting more Dark Orbs across NG+ cycles to get so many uses for it which can just be used against anything you encounter. Very easy to use too.

  • @Norvolo
    @Norvolo 11 месяцев назад

    The From Software damage types:
    Physical, Fire, Lightning, Magic, and The Bad One.

  • @ronjohnson6916
    @ronjohnson6916 11 месяцев назад

    Spice exists in DS2. Unless you plan on using Affinity (or Unleash Magic -- which works on hexes) you don't gain anything for going past 30 INT (well 28 -- use the Dark Hood). Dark Greatsword does the same damage at 30 INT as 55. (spell damage is based on your dark bonus. Spicing a spell down doesn't touch the base damage or scaling bonus)
    Also unless you plan on using Profound Still and want max duration no need to go past 30 FTH (again, 28 with the Dark Hood).
    I also think you underestimate the importance of your skill in comparing Faith and Hex. Most players like hexes for two reason. Dark Orb gives you a high mid tier spell that's a quick cast and with a high cast count. Great Resonant Soul gives you a fast top tier spell. Your typical player struggles to cast (great) lightning spear and won't use the attunement glitch.

  • @robonurcob2584
    @robonurcob2584 7 месяцев назад

    Didn’t know dark damage was weak in ds3. Used a pyromancer with a dark infused long sword and honestly the sword carried me.

  • @Guy-iv2hw
    @Guy-iv2hw 11 месяцев назад

    Excuse me what? They fixed the dark scaling in DS3, so that it wouldn't scale of the lower stat between int and faith? The main advantage Dark Souls 2 has over the other games in the series is how many different builds you can create. It's made specifically to distinguish hexes from pyromancy. Pyromancy scales of both int and faith.

  • @NisseDood
    @NisseDood 11 месяцев назад

    When the requirements are higher are way higher than the soft caps you use dem spices. Who can say no to something like 10 faith requirement sacred oath?
    Or if you could spice down Unleash magic to 10 for a stronger miracle dps build.

  • @Chyguy
    @Chyguy 11 месяцев назад +1

    In terms of being effective, Dark Souls 1 hexes are the best. More specifically, Dark Bead is the best. There is a reason the DS2 version of dark bead is doodoo.

  • @devastatheseeker9967
    @devastatheseeker9967 11 месяцев назад

    You see people think hexes are better than miracles in ds2 because...the miracle nerf patch...

  • @joshgildred3906
    @joshgildred3906 4 месяца назад

    what about black flame spells?

  • @ghost-knighthd7704
    @ghost-knighthd7704 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bro dark damage is the best damage type wdym worst

  • @C3lticlord
    @C3lticlord 11 месяцев назад

    pretty sure hexes were nerfed between dark souls 2 and scholar, the resonant souls used to do insane damage.

  • @ivanvoloder8114
    @ivanvoloder8114 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have beaten the game useing magma and death sorceries and dont know what the heck are you talking about. Death sorceries do need a bit of investment but magma can do good damage with a good staff, proper talismans and higer int attribute.

  • @Angels-Haven
    @Angels-Haven 11 месяцев назад +1

    don't even need to watch this to say pre nerf dark souls 2 has the best hexes

  • @f8ze304
    @f8ze304 11 месяцев назад +3

    I edge to souls of Cinder 😊🤪

  • @AtreyusNinja
    @AtreyusNinja 11 месяцев назад +1

    Best Souls 2

  • @joeyjones9041
    @joeyjones9041 11 месяцев назад

    Dark Souls 3 has the best Hexes by far in my opinion. Out of the Soulsborne games I've played that is. I'm hoping for a whetblade with Intelligence/Faith scaling with Affinities like Fundamentalist, and Ghostflame. The black flame weapons and spells should have been Faith/Intelligence like DS3

  • @YureiOni
    @YureiOni 11 месяцев назад

    Ancient rancor is the only good death spell

  • @VorksStudio
    @VorksStudio 11 месяцев назад

    Finally someone says that hexes are overrated in DS2.

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner 11 месяцев назад

    6:06 - PAUSE

  • @ThePDOG9
    @ThePDOG9 11 месяцев назад

    agree 100 %

  • @Rocky-yw1zo
    @Rocky-yw1zo 11 месяцев назад

    Elden ring dlc announcement 📣 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Salloom0
    @Salloom0 11 месяцев назад

    aint no way u said climax< sunlight spear 💀💀

  • @kazar2143
    @kazar2143 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ds2

  • @RyanZhao-zl2ht
    @RyanZhao-zl2ht 11 месяцев назад

    6:06 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

  • @jalyn2000
    @jalyn2000 11 месяцев назад

    Agree

  • @darkrot824
    @darkrot824 11 месяцев назад +2

    I guess being outclassed by literal lightning bolts from the gods is still better than being outclassed by nerdy, overrated, unoriginal, dumb-looking blue, Harry Potter sorceries. (Just don’t mention Elden Ring or Ds3)

  • @RIS_988
    @RIS_988 11 месяцев назад

    hey chat

  • @darkbatman-vk4tw
    @darkbatman-vk4tw 11 месяцев назад

    I would say dark souls 3 because its why more balanced then elden rings spams

  • @thicccpenguinboi2221
    @thicccpenguinboi2221 11 месяцев назад

    6:06 what