Tim Ferriter Body Language Analysis | Boy in a Box Trial
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2023
- An expert analyzes #TimFerriter’s body language as the jury views video footage of how he treated his alleged victim.
Ferriter is accused of locking his adopted son in a box-like room for up to 18 hours without access to a proper bathroom, facing up to 40 years in prison if convicted.
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Unfortunately, misconceptions about nonverbal cues to deception are widespread. The general public holds popular beliefs (The Global Deception Research Team, 2006), unfounded or discredited claims are disseminated on social media and television, and pseudoscientific claims, that is, unfounded or discredited claims presented explicitly or implicitly as having scientific value, are promoted in manuals and seminars (Denault et al., 2015, 2020, Denault et al., submitted).
@@Scraggledust Right. Body Language Expert testimony is not permitted in courts for a reason.
@@Scraggledustyeah I check out Jonathan Cahn and Dr. Gene Kim Dr. Chuck missler for the best information years before things are happening now
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. It would have been nice to hear from him about what he had done for his son’s Detachment disorder and what the family was dealing with. Unfortunately, the Judge did not allow information about the Minor’s mental health issues, so I don’t know how much he would be able to share with the jury about his son’s behaviors.
Let’s hope Ronin gets life long mental health care for his Disorder, and therapy for the dysfunctional treatment he endured for most of his life. I truly wish him well!!⚖️☮️🙏🏻🍀
Damnnn the mom had easily over fifty blinks while listening to herself on that video.
I love how the dad complains yelling and berating the kid about how he has to "pay for his housing, food and clothing"...
Like as if that's some sort of exceptionally generous act for a parent to provide basic needs to their kid... let alone a kid they ADOPTED by their own choice. What a joke of a person.
YEP!!!😡😡😡
Reminds me of Ruby Franke, food and a bed are privileges not basic needs.
I think it's about respecting other people's work, not necessarily about being thankful?
Wrong, wrong, wrong attitude towards a child.
@@efsmoore2274 Yes, and combined with everything else, definitely wrong. But that conversation in itself, although too much, is understandable coming from frustration. I don't know this boy, but I know what it's like to have a child with ODD (oppositional defiant disorder).
The way he looked at his son on the stand. It looked to me as though he hates him. Also, the one recording of the parents saying he stole "their" chocolate showed me right there they didn’t even treat him like one of their own children. Imagine telling your child you stole freeking chocolate from you. Just gross. No wonder the kid acted out!
How can two people do this .. makes me SICK
Both are the worse human beings ever
They are entitled arrogant sycophant evil satanic
Their. Chocolate wow come on it’s ur adopted son he deserved it all anything like the other kid
Let that kids he’s and hr in the dark in that room and the bucket as toiled and they didn’t let him turn on the AC wow
Your a devils child 😢 let a person steal, cheat, manipulate, lie, deny, minimize.. ya you'll just smile all the way through it huh😮
Is he going to take the stand ??
I have candy. My children are in allowed to have without asking. Otherwise I would eat every bit of it and I would never get any.
His demeanor in court is the worst evidence against him.
He didn’t wanna appear weak I’m sure …like ever. The man is a bully. And he is claiming innocence so he doesn’t wanna acknowledge guilt
No empathy..a NARC...SOCIOPATHIC
In my opinion, Tim Ferriter is not stoic; he's as hard and cold as the cement cage he had built for the son he didn't help or love.
That’s what “stoic” is to a lot of people: completely devoid of emotion or expression.
🙌🙌🙌yes
Mel he is The SPAWN OF SATAN
AND they say that Ronan was emotionless i wonder where he learned that from his father lets hope and pray Ronan gets JUSTICE tomorrow or when the jury comes back and i hope that the jury understand why he said he has no ill will towards his parents and to just move on.. I wish state would have had some greatt comeback for that.. even prisoners who are held by captors sometimes stick up for their abuser .. He doesnt want to say anything that makes them more angry so i think that is why he said that lets hope the jury understands the abuse he suffered made him say that
@@toyamwarr
Maybe he is a psychopath. And/or sociopath. I know because I grew up with one. It would be great if we all could change child welfare laws and procedures so that mandated reporters, like I was, have to tell as soon as something is amiss. This case may be a gateway to change in our nation.@@toyamwarr
He & his wife turned down a plea and deliberately chose to go to trial so he can continue his abuse by subjecting this child to relive 3 years of being psychologically & physically abused, to have his character be degraded, his pain downplayed, to be humiliated as jurors watch videos of him urinating in a bucket… all while being stared down by this guy. He’s cold as ice, arrogant & unapologetic.
I HAVE ALOT OF CHOICE NAMES AND WORDS FOR THIS BI.. AND BAS...
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP CALLING THEM MOTHER AND FATHER OF THIS CHILD
Hear hea 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽well said .
Fasten your seat belts, I think the judge may throw the book at him. Timmy big boy thinks he can outsmart everyone. He has damaged all his kids!!! Eh tough guy POS!🤬
II hadn't even thought about it, but this is so true!! As a parent you would do anything for your child. Going to jail for 24 months (not even considering what he did) so it would spare your child from the harm, pain and shame caused by a lawsuit, was the very least he could do for his own child. But it's ok, karma is doing its job. The entire world can see now what a horrible person he is and his punishment will undoubtedly be much harsher
I'm over here in Scotland. Can anyone tell me how authorities found out about these 'parents'?
Listening to the video is so heartbreaking. They both abused this kid verbally, mentally, and emotionally. 😞
And we’re just seeing on camera of camera did they also physically abuse him as well?
I think they basically chose a scape goat for their anger n that person was child
Also physically because they were not feeding him right or giving him sunlight regularly either. Our brains need certain vitamins and minerals and enough protein and sunlight to function properly. This child's brain was being deprived of what he physically needed to even think through his impulsive feelings to act out. These parents did this to him long term in Arizona too, so his brain was deprived long term. They sabotaged his brain by how they fed him, so that he could not have self reflection or self control, in addition to provoking anger in him that built up over the years. That is also long term physical abuse and neglect on top of long term mental and emotional abuse. These parents are narcissists and have no conscience, or they never could have continued to do this long term. This was not a mistake, or they would not have done this more than a day or 2, and guilt would have set in, and then they would have found professional help for him. They both deserve prison for this.
@@ruthmyers2397yes...that exactly what was happening.
Parents are guilty. Tim should go to prison for the maximum.
I dont know why they addopted this boy in the first place.
@@NaomivanTonder-jr7jxThat’s exactly what I have been thinking.
@@NaomivanTonder-jr7jxthey went on a mission trip and God told them to adopt.
@@vikkyvictoriaf2395 Really?
And her next !
The fact he had a bucket to defecate in, and then had to sit in that 8x8 room with it and try and eat food when it was given to him, is absolutely appalling to me.
It doesnt matter what a child does, they are still a CHILD. The escalating abuse of the child is the cause of the child's dark or disturbing behavior! That poor boy must feel utterly alone and forsaken.
Yes this is what it comes down to, he is a child, and a teenager with serious issues. No doubt his parents contributed to his issues.
I couldn't take it anymore,' ISN'T A DEFENSE FOR A HUSBAND BEATING A WIFE, IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE FOR ABUSE For ANYBODY!
It's a horrible precedent to bring the victim of abuse to the court to talk about what they did to deserve the abuse!! ONLY IN FLORIDA could this happen !
@@sandcat66Alot of the behaviors seem like learned behaviors from that monster also how can any parent accuse a child their child of stealing food chocolate and freaking sprinkles?
Tim is evil.
@@andiec3980 That's possible but I think in this situation and for this case, the kid is "evil" cause he learned it at home from his adoptive parents. He seems to be self reflective in ways the parents are not self reflective. That makes a huge difference where the kid can change with proper help but NOT needing his adoptive parents to try and "help" who are just awful as parents and contribute to this kid being a monster to pets and other children in the house.
The father is evil and breaks my heart for this child
Please don't use FATHER FOR THIS EVIL VILE SPAWN OF SATAN,INCLUDES THE FEMALE DAUGHTER OF SATAN
It wasn't a "father".
More like an army sergeant
He deserves prison for the abuse of that poor kid
You should have the kids sleep at your house overnight with your small children
Unreasonable on all levels! No parent should ever do this to a kid! No matter what! Guilty! Box them on a 8 by 8 box with no food, toilet or water.
Sad thing is even if they serve time they will have more than this poor kid did
100000% agreed
It's wonton cruelty to treat a child they way they did. Unforgivable.
Please lock this narcissist abuser up for life.
His wife as well.
Horrible people.
The mother taunting him is heinous. She’s evil, too! Lock them both up.
I am so disturbed by these parents and how they talk to their son. The outright verbal abuse they both spew at him is horrible. I hope they both go to jail.
100% agree!
Agree looking at them makes me sick
Over verbal abuse?
@@M00NCHILD57 They locked him in a specially-constructed box room in the garage with no light, no water, no toilet and no control over the door lock or the aircon. That's what Tim has been found guilty of and is going to prison for
I wonder, did they ever listen to the way they spoke to this child when they reviewed the tapes. Hours and hours of videotape, and I can’t believe they didn’t see the madness in their decisions!
He was probably lying to the cops about his name so he wouldnt have to go back but the cops ended up bringing him back that time. The last time he ran away he begged them not to bring him back and that he would rather go to jail. Thats when the parents got caught.
These parents are sadists and sociopaths. They were overwhelmed with raising their adopted son and decided to take the law into their own hands. It is a crime against children. They did not choose to go see a professional for children nor accept professional help but preferred to punish their adopted son and dehumanize him. If the judge lets these parents go free and does not sanction them with a prison sentence, the message will be that parents are free to do what they want with their children and to consider them as their personal objects. And UNICEF could close its doors forever.
The parents needs the same treatment as they gave their son , see how they like it .
The parents got to bond out pending trial. RF wasn't given that privilege. RF just got locked up.
They Adopted him at the age of 17 months old. I think they mentioned that at the age of 11 they had this box room built in their garage in their Arizona home and had put the child in there instead of a real bedroom in the house.
Then they moved to Florida and had another box/room built in that Garage for the child to be locked in only to be let out for school or church Then to be locked up again. Peanut butter and bread three times a day, not enough water, air conditioning when they felt like turning it on, sleeping with his own Poop and Pee in a home depot bucket they put in the room for him to use. Constant Hollering, physical punishment if he resist going into the box/ room, in the dark. Cussing, Name calling, intimidation and being watched by a Ring Camera! Yes, they are Monsters!!!
No wonder why this kid was mean to animals and other children, they taught him to be this way, this is how you raise a child to be a sociopath or serial killer psychopath.
Thats OK they won't get a toilet.I can't imagine using a steel cold prison toilet.Hes going to wish for a home Depot bucket.MAPYBE HIS SUITE WILL HAVE A HOLE IN THE FLOOR FOR A TOILET😂😂😂😂😂
Renee, I agree with your statement.
They were putting him in a literal closet for many hours at a time since he was eight or nine. Long before they built the first blackout cell.
@@julief634He’s been cruel to animals and other kids because that’s in his DNA. It’s always 70% what one has inherited from his/her biological ancestors, and only 30% of one’s upbringing. There is no other way around. That still does not justify his adopted parents horrible behavior towards the boy.
What a vile excuse for a "Father" absolutely shocking. Hes not Stoic, hes a cold hearted phsycopath! Hearing the young man speak, he is so well spoken and intelligent, and Im so glad he has escaped these 2 cruel hostage takers!
So maybe you know like I do what it is like to grow up with a sociopath and psychopath for a dad. Thank you either way for your comment and insight. It is not narcissism per se. And mom went along with it. Wow!
I agree with you there is no way that this child could not be reasoned with I can't imagine what I would act like in that kind of family..... you locked me up in a cage for a day I'm going to go berserk
@@JanaBusby-iw3vcI agree with you these are sociopaths or Psychopaths and they really enjoyed hurting that child...... a literal scapegoat for all their bad feelings and for all their ills
That man has some real problems. I feel bad for that kid.
Make no mistake, the other kids have at 1 point or another wondered if they’d be next locked in that box in pitch black for hours if they pi$$ed off their parents. That’s psychological abuse perpetuated by a narcissistic control freak.
He is NOT a man.He is the Spawn of Satan
i wonder if his oldest sib is there for him.. i think the parents even dislike her as well because i guess according to reports the parents put out a protective order or some kind of order against the children they say t hey hacked into their email and sent stuff to authorities and i think the oldest child is adopted to i think the 13 year old is their other bio daughter but i could be wrong.. we know she did not take the stand just the older one.. I feel for the youngest child if this monsters walks tomorrow because eventually they will get their 2 minor kids back and i feel if the youngest has behavioral issues because i guess this childs abuse started when he was around 8 the other little boy i think is 5 now i worry they will do the same to him and ths time no one will find out I am tryly scared when they are returned to these people..
Yeah the defense trying to paint that kid as a monster, when in fact that boy got on the stand and said he wants to move on from this and basically forgives his monster of an adopted dad. “Bad” kids don’t do that. That boy has a good heart.
😲@@denben8530 Wow !
I was adopted after 14years of foster care...along with me were 7 boys and 2 girls. We all had problems. Ten of us. My brothers had ODD ..we all have RAD. Not once did I hear of that boy doing something wrong compared to how bad we were. We never were locked in a box .
You better be grateful to your adoptive parents.
You can’t demand gratefulness. It comes from the heart when shown mercy and kindness.
Your parents are angels
Your very lucky PraiseJesus
You didn't hear what that boy did because it wasn't allowed in court.
if the child had behavioral issues it probably started bc they've mistreated him his whole life, they didn't just start with the room, it just ended there
That child impressed me as well!!! And the fact that he sat on that stand and from the very beginning of his testimony made sure to say “I forgive them” was really ALL that needed to be said!!! This child absolutely didn’t deserve what he got & the fact that these two “parents” would take this to trial to argue & slander this child even more is disturbing on a whole other level for me!!!! I pray justice is served for this young man ❤️🙏
Eloquent and compassionate...what a drastic contrast to his cruel sick parents
Tim thought he was recording the behavior of the son (was not treated as a son), but it actually recorded Tim and Tracy's torture, inhumane behavior they did to this child. Glad it was recorded, because it shows how cruel R was treated. Prison max with no windows, no AC, and bucket for toilet!
Bucket for a toilet got me as to intent.
The way the father looks at his son in a way of intimidating him, he have no regret for the misery he put him in!
I saw it too! Pure Evil
I feel so sorry for this poor kid, i hope the jury can see what we can all see. This behaviour is horrific
What a way to treat your child. Or your dog. The boy was a prisoner of war.
I would be interested…really interested in knowing how “dad” felt and what he was thinking as he listened to himself attack his “son.”
The plea deal of 24 months was more than generous, considering RF was locked up longer than that. So glad he declined it and hope he gets the max for continuing to victimize RF, making him and his sister go through a trial.
It sounds like he just genuinely despises his son 😢😢
His tone of voice is filled with hatred for a child my heart breaks for RF to have to live with this verbal and physical abuse
Ya because with all his sons foolishness he should be smiling ear to ear.. how dare him.
And the worst thing is that the child still thinks he loves him, and that this was just “a mistake”
Normal ppl may not always like their biological children, but the hatred many adoptive parents feel for their international adopted children, is terrifying. It is so common and international adoption create unnecessary suffering.
Yeah, the physical abuse is just a part of it; the isolation, starvation, deprivation, but the verbal and emotional abuse is equally devastating to their son - this grown adult so called “father” seems like he hates him. Poor kid. I found these recording really difficult to listen to. 😢
I am a bit disappointed that the jury didn’t get to see the’room’ in real life. Perhaps even the house and the closet he was kept in when he heard them devising the room idea.
That would've been a great idea
True
Good point
I thought the same thing , to lock each one in for just a few minutes with the lights off and air .
They tore the box down after their arrest when they were released on bond. Another action of guilt.
Funny how the dad berates the child for not changing his own behavior despite the negative outcomes, but the father doesn't appear to consider at all how he himself is repeating the same behavior in terms of his parenting and continues to persist in them depsite the obvious lack of positive results.
And by all accounts, these are well educated people who had the financial resources to actually seek professional help for this child, yet failed to provide any sort of professional help to him with any consistency.
This guy is narcissistic and a manipulator. He is guilty of mental child abuse. Which can cause damage to a person for the rest of their life, if not stopped. Hopefully the child will get valuable counseling. Not all counselors are truly qualified for the title they Carrie. I think this man should go to jail and his wife because she is guilty by association.
I hope they both are charged and rot in jail. Absolutely disgusting how they treated this child. Taunting, baiting, teasing him. Omg horrific.
You mean convicted, don’t you? They were charged by the police. The jury will decide whether to convict.
From what I have seen here, they will be found guilty on some charges and not guilty on others.
I also thought that may happen but I am overjoyed that child abuse is now on the national radar!@@TheKievKen
He said because "i was kept in their closet and i over heard them talking about it" 😢 thats is super sad.
Nothing about this was reasonable. Convicted war criminals, terrorists, and serial killers have more rights and freedoms than this child had. You can tell the dad was getting sadistic pleasure from abusing and dehumanising the boy. He's never truly known love. He's known, verbal and physical abuse, labor camp treatment, isolation, torment, hunger, and incarceration. It's horrific, and they need to pay for treating him like a mortal enemy instead of a child they claimed to want and swore to love and protect.
Neither of them should be allowed contact with any of those kids until they've reached the age of consent. Then they can decide if they want to talk to those sadists or not.
Convicted, serial, killers, and terrorist get to go to school every day, huh
i pray the jury sees it too.. i have to keep remember we dont get to se what happens inside the cr and the tension at times must be overwhelming... i just hope they think that this was malice but how the law is written i worry about that... this can go so many ways. i wonder what the jury thought of how the parents and family were carying on they see way more that us and they had to watch those videos lets hope they dont want to watch the whole things. I think this might be a divided group i wonder what the makeup of the jury is and i konw one is a teacher according to court tv reporter...
@shannonedie4589 I don't know what country you live in, but here inmates go to school or work unless they're in sper max or on death row. Either way we have laws about solitary confinement and humane treatment that require running water, fresh air, light, books/newspapers, 3 balanced meals a day, exercise, medical care etc. It's all pretty humane. These laws came about after it was proven that throwing somebody in a dark hole only made them worse mentally and, therefore, even more difficult to manage.
@@shannonedie4589You're just like these 'parents', huh?
@@shannonedie4589 They do get education if they ask for it.
They do have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE in-cell books and other pastimes
Most do go to work & have a RIGHT to buy candy & snacks with their pay.
(And they do not have to behave perfectly, just adequately.)
Let’s say they feared for their lives. Let’s say he did all kinds of vile acts. HOW do you justify depriving him of adequate sanitation AND MOST OF ALL…light. This treatment is cruel and inhumane. Done.
Some things just are what they are.
And how do you justify not even letting him use the bucket at will?
How do you justify making it a crime use the ventilation in a windowless box?
How do you make “being on the bed” or having Diary of Anne Frank in your bookbag into an occasion for a POW type interrogation?
Let’s say they feared for their lives: why did they fill in the school form and check “no” for behavioural problems?
Why are they bringing more kids into the home when they know it’s not safe?
Great point! Very enlightening. I think you are on to something.
They made me laugh when they said Tim didn’t want RF to touch the AC bc he was afraid the boy would start a fire. I’ll bet he wanted that boy to be hot. Just another way to oppress that boy.
If a fire had started in there that boy wouldn't have had a chance. That box was in a two car garage that had a vehicle parked inside of it by the box. Of course that vehicle has a gas tank. I don't think these people would have even tried to get him out if that house was on fire.
@@Mom2Jax05 I wondered if they had a car in there. So when they started the car or when they pulled a car into the garage, carbon monoxide could have been sucked in through the AC. Fire is a big deal for me since my house burned down a year ago. Things happen so fast when a house is on fire that having to run into the garage and open locks might be harder than it sounds, depending on how much smoke is in the garage. Of course, as you say, we’ll never know if they would have even tried to save him. So many things could have happened to him. He said he once stepped on a picture and broke the glass because he was in complete darkness. The Ferriters then said he broke it on purpose
@@sjohnschafer the whole thing is just horrible. I hope the jury gets this right.
Torture.
@@Mom2Jax05 I am glad they did
I hope the judge puts him in jail & karma pays him a much needed visit!!!
He looks like a mean pissed-off robot sitting there. He scares me.
You hit the nail on the head. "Cold, distant, and not a real person."
Exactly!Tim's pride and ego wouldn't get professional help.UNREASONABLE AND CRIMINAL.😢
I hope so much the jury finds him guilty all counts and even his wife so they can be in a box for a while to see how his son had to go through the whole time living in that house. I bet his lawyers told him not to say any thing cause it might hurt his case
i afraid if he walks he will have tons to say i wish they could put a gag order on him so he can not talk about this child until he is over 21 i can see him now spewing alll kinds of things about how bad his kid was and humiliate him even more
Both parents are ashamed and terrified . The ring camera videos expose them for who they are .
On a side note , I love listening to the prosecutor . She has such a comforting and pleasant voice and presentation.
They humiliated him by making him use a bucket for a bathroom and watch him empty; they ridiculed and badgered him. That's not instructive, but a destructive strategy to change behavior.
They are watching him on video so he has zero privacy. He’s a 14 year old with zero privacy….. they watch him go to the bathroom
He was even forbidden to use the bucket at times because it disgusted Tim - and he told him to “hold it”. With forbidding the air conditioning too, they are lucky they didn’t damage the boy’s kidneys. Tim makes a very revealing comment at one point indicating he wants to conceal the bucket-emptying from the neighbors.
@@eh1702 Wow.... i missed that part of the testimony. Tim actually told him to "hold it"?!???!
@@trailrunner925 Yes. He first asked him if he needed to pee right now, and when he answered no, he told him he did not want him peeing in that bucket (implicitly, within the next few hours) and he’d better “hold it”.
The moment he said it, I had a gut feeling he had played a mean trick. It’s hard to pin down. In words.
You know when you are about to go on a drive, you tell the kids - “Do you need a pee before we go?”
“No.”
“Go anyway, because it’s gonna be a couple of hours.”
You don’t take a no and then close off their option, and THEN tell them they have to hold it from now to whenever.
@@eh1702 That's really warped and twisted..... It really will serve this guy right to sit in a jail where you have no privacy, you share a cell, with a toilet open to the view of everyone.
I truly feel that it is never too late for the son! With proper and professional help, guidance, treatment, and genuine love and care, he will have a bright and strong future! His testimony showed he is a smart kid with intelligence, deep thoughts and a warm heart to forgive and move on. He has so much potential possibilities and I know he will overcome and become a healthy adult!
Abuse never goes away. He will have many psychological issues as he grows up. My hope for him is that he continues in counseling for the rest of his life like I have. And I am almost 60.
Regardless of what this child did the parents needed to get him professional help - this doesn't or nothing constitutes this level of abuse - a child who allegedly has issues you are only going to exacerbate the issues. These parents seem to have enjoyed abusing this child!! He was kept in a closet while the room was being built - he never had his own bedroom but the other three younger siblings did? This child saying he forgives has known nothing else - if he is in a loving home and gets the care and love he deserves - he will finally realize what really happened to him. These parents don't belong with children RF may have saved his siblings lives. OMGEEE the defense showed THREE HOURS of happy times one time in a kitchen last time I was in my kitchen there are knives - he seemed to get along well with his siblings - ugh I can go on and on and on - these parents are done! This is TF trial and I can't stand to even look at his face - he turned down a DEAL - no one or anything will ever get through to this kind of person - he thinks he is right and hopefully the jury shows him different even if he won't get it even then! Hope he is enjoying his last night is his bedroom with a bathroom because the box is coming for him.
The entire trial was victim blaming a child
They tried but getting into any specialist is a joke. No excuse but not so clear cut as media has made out
@sianwain1384 it’s true, most people don’t realize that there are nearly no resources for children so troubled they can’t live at home. Government have slowly whittled away all funding. No one who works in that area can say anything because to tell a story involving a child, is a serious ethical breach.
@@sianwain1384 “they tried”, my ass! They did not ever request an IEP or 504. They told his new school he had no behavioral issues while they were having his new cell built! In six years he only saw a professional once or twice. Most of the diagnosis was by parents’ report.
These people were NOT short of resources, social or financial.
They could have looked for a school with a therapuetic side to it but they chose instead an accelerated-academic program. MORE demands on him.
If this child was so bad then why did the school ever suspend him?
He had an in school suspension before. But he is not that bad. He's doing regular kid ish and some things a little more then the average kid because of his intelligence. The parents just lied and exaggerated the child's behavior.
Also, if this kid was so bad, why was he found at the school? It makes me think he had stayed with friends but he actually wants to go to school.
I was a substitute teacher and saw bad behavior all the time. Schools are not properly equipped to handle this type of behavior. The problem is systemic. Not enough resources. So I wonder where the mandated reporters were, such as seeing signs of child abuse. All school personnel except maybe janitors are required to report abuse. Or suspicion thereof. And the mental health system is broken. Not okay at all what the parents did. Just saying that this problem with youth is real. Trying to shine a light on how Ronan fell through so many cracks.@@sjohnschafer
BOTH of those “parents” are despicable, sadistic, abusive, psychotic and maliciously cruel. There is no way in hell that he won’t go to prison. It’s extremely disturbing and heart wrenching to listen to that poor boy being berated and humiliated. Tracy is disgusting. To tell him that he’s not nice bc he refuses to talk to her after being screamed at and verbally abused and humiliated is ludicrous. She doesn’t deserve to be called a “mother”, nor Tim any kind of “father”. I think Rolan’s testimony was done while being stared at (with contempt) by his parents. He was clearly frightened. I’m sure the biggest thing he’s thinking is what is going to happen if Tim isn’t found guilty. Did anyone catch him saying he was kept in their closet while his prison cell was being built? WTF?! Did the prosecutor not pick up on it? There aren’t words to describe this situation.
That contractor that called the cops and took the pictures is a hero.
I see time and time again why thousands of people who are parents do not deserve to be parents
It would be great to have an analysis of the body language expert, as her reactions are interesting!
Also the father should know as an educated man that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity! The father is obviously the one who required assistance with his behaviour! Lock him up and maybe he'll get what he needs!
Obviously the kid has some behavioral issues, but that’s no excuse for this. You know why a lot of kids act out? Because their parents give them no power or control over their own lives. Then they punish him by taunting him, making him feel small, and jailing him. I would act out too if my own family treated me like I was less than their blood children.
This man needs to go to prison and be dealt with by the inmates.. Let’s see how he goes with that Tough Guy!
👿 yeah, I really. The bucket is the worst.!!🥲
Tim will atleast have a toilet I hope another inmate takes his food
After hearing the adoptive dad in the first video it’s obvious he’s abusive and shouldn’t have children. Period
State did a fantastic job!!
Julie,Julie, Julie. We aren’t dealing with the child’s conduct right now, we are dealing with the parents conduct. Yes, the child needs support on several fronts for sure and his domestic imprisonment will also need to be addressed. This trial is addressing malicious intent and child abuse of the poorly informed and unwise parents. Guilty.
She is victim blaming the child .Another quack trying to sell a book
Absolutely 💯.
Agreed! Guilty af
Who’s Julie, Julie, Julie??
All of RFs behaviour is because of how these people treated him. He spent what, 3 years locked up escalating behaviour to get attention. He will still be stuck in that mindset so what has happened since is detrimental to the defence, not helpful
U CAN TELL IN HIS VOICE HES PROVOCKING HIS SON TO MORE ANGER YOU JUST DONT TURN OFF FIRE WITH FIRE LOVE CONQUERS ALL TYPES OF SIN HIS MOUTH IS FULL OF PROFANITY
Both of them are Monsters!
God in Heaven, this poor boy. Hearing this “dad” yell at him. Maybe we can see what a tough guy HE is…mother effer…has me in tears.
Someone called him Legohead
Accurate.
Really reminds me of my abusive sister..what she did to my niece omg! Gave away everything she owned..clothes bed, bedding..literally everything..so mean
Omg! I thought about how my sister was with her adopted daughter as well. She was treated like a little slave and had no real bed. I wanted to report her but my family said no....so sick!
@@happeedaze1That is absolutely horrible
@@happeedaze1 Please report her!
So many people will not stand up for what is right! Maybe now change will happen?
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It all comes down to THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO LOCK HIM IN THAT ROOM!!! They should have gotten him the help he needed
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They up to 40 years in prison on the description of this video, lord knows I wish the man could go to prison for that long and have to use a bucket to poop and pee in . Along with his disgusting wife. I just hope this boy gets the help to overcome all this, and none of the children are ever returned to them. The house only had three bedrooms, they didn't want this boy in the house . He didn't seem mean to the other children until he wasn't part of the family. I would like to know why they even adopted these children.
Yesss , agree
I wonder why they, the parents, did not put the baby in their room and put Ronan in another room. And seek help? There was no need for a "box" or "cage." I think the problem started years before in Arizona.
@JanaBusby-iw3vc They told it started in Arizona and then they moved to Florida and kept doing the same thing but that's okay the father is going to prison at least I hope so. The boy was getting help and then they stopped that also. Which don't make sense. Bye bye Dear old dad
My dad would come home from work and yell at us kids. It was stress.
The dad is a narcissist. He thinks he’s above needing help. Folks who think this is acceptable should try living it for a month. All of it. The dark. No A/C. Being screamed at. Nothing to do. A pot. Peanut butter sandwiches. No communication. No TV or books. No fresh air. Separated from family.
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Feel like at some point had this kept going Tim could possibly have lost it & really hurt that young boy. I mean they both taunted him. That to me was showing how evil they were.
IDGAF what that child did YOU don’t parent the child like you yourself are a monster bully all aggressive and despising the child thinking you are parenting! Placing a child with special needs in a box like that small room will only exacerbate the situation tenfold like a pressure cooker that child will explode! These bullying parents don’t deserve to be parents! Prison that Dad let’s see if he’s a “tough guy”! Makes me sick listening to it as I was bullied in HS and lemme tell you That’s Exactly what it sounds like sadistic berating mimicking you A Bully Monster! Get that child away from them both asap
He was kept in the closet??? Oh my lord 😡 this man wasn’t a father to him at all! You can tell he has no empathy or sadness listening to that speaks volumes!! Cold you know what 🤬
You caught onto that comment also!!
They were busy building the box!🤬
When the judge said he's going into custody his calm demeanour changed. Eyeballs popped out on sticks
If the kid behaved badly it's justified. Who wouldn't go crazy if you most of the time were locked in a small and often dark room. That sociopatic, sadistic monster is horrible and the money he whines about is paid by the government and he would still have spare money as the kid didn't even get food most of the time. I hope he gets a long long sentence.
Lego Head is easy to read, he’s a vile specimen who obviously has anger issues. The prosecution left no stone unturned and in my opinion couldn’t do anything more. A fascinating case and I hope justice is served. Him not taking the stand speaks volumes and his silence is deafening! Guilty on all counts. Vinnie fantastic as always and the lady expert was brilliant, love from the UK 🇬🇧👍🏼
Lego Head. Perfect description. Before Lego Head is put in a prison cell, his perfectly coiffed hair will receive a buzz cut. He won't need to use gel anymore. That's how prison hair styling is done in the US.
yes perfect Lego Head !
Looking at the jury to see their reaction, to me says he fears his behavior.
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I measured out an 8'x8' section in my living room as I sit here watching this. MIND-BLOWING that it's actually as small as it is. My damn bathroom is bigger than that tiny room the kid was couped up in for hours every day. I know he was given a twin size mattress to sleep on. That would BARELY fit in an 8'x8' area. It wouldn't fit with a box spring and frame.
The young man had to stay in that room until he was 14, right? I say sentence the father to 14 years in an 8'x8' cell. Alone.
I'm surprised that the professionals didn't mention that the boy's actions like looking up ways to kill someone on railroad tracks, etc, spoke to his frustrations and looking for ways out of the trap of misery he was in. Hitting dog with bike...lashing out at something because he couldn't do anything about the monsters who were abusing him.
I don't have any attachment problem. Put me in a box with a bucket, and I'll become insane 😢
Vinnie keeps saying the father accused of keeping son in a box. It’s proven that he did it. Why do we keep saying accused? Why aren’t we saying the man who kept his son in a box?
In the U.S., every person accused of a crime is is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Thus, until a judge or jury finds the person's guilt has been established beyond a reasonable doubt, the person should be referred to as "the accused".
thanks for explaining how it works in the US as far as crimes go lol. I was born here. that doesn't negate that we see regardless of Tim being found guilty of abuse or not, the boy lived in the box. We see it so that point is no longer alleged. agree to disagree. blessings
@@Lifewithpersians I agree with you that based on what I have seen, this man is guilty. But your original comment was about Vinnie calling him “accused” instead of the man who kept his son in a box. As a Court TV host, and especially as a lawyer, Vinnie needs to follow the law. So that was the reason for my response about the law.
How did he treat his other children ? He is very condescending and sarcastic in the audio recordings.
They are inhumane , Cruel Parents, I hope the Jury find them guilty !!
He is arrogant!! The way he taunts the poor boy. They truly were for sure just mean to him and made him the outsider. I hope the boy is happy and live's a happy life forever. He should have my took the stand to defend himself.
Who likes a bully... He didn’t want that son he wanted whatever benefits he could derive from "adopting" a son! He is an abuser he will abuse any other person he deems weaker than him. He has no emotions because he meant to do everything he did to that adolescent! My guess he was a tiny meek man with everyone else and took all of his frustration out on him. This recording proves that it was never about punishment or deterrence ... it was... he truly thought that that human being didn’t even deserve the basic items in that box! He's touting food that he's providing as an amenity not an essential. She is a reflection of him... you'd think as a mother she'd be maternal. It is said to never discipline your children whilst angry, most parents send naughty children to their rooms to regulate tempers... but He's already living in a cell... so they invade that tiny space to berate him! Disgusting animals to treat a human being much less a child, that they adopted like that! 😢
You call it stoic i call it ice cold
Death Penalty for ALL child Abusers.
Totally unreasonable parenting they need to go to prison
Why would you adopt someone just to torture them this should be an open-and-shut case
I don't like the "it's too late" for this kid attitude from one of the guests. He's acting out because of the way he was treated. He doesn't know how to properly express his frustrations. I hope they don't give up on him too.
He’s been fine since placed in another home , no behavior problems .She really victim blamed R.
That lady is an idiot saying he won’t be able to find a job or function. He’s smarter than her! He will be just fine.
The fact that the room was a fire hazard in and of itself is dangerous. The parents had to know this was dangerous!
The mind is like a computer. Whatever you say to an individual will never be forgotten. This poor boy will never forget the treatment these adoptive parents have done to him. Hopefully, the child will make sure he becomes a better person than what he had to endure in that family.
Take your child to a professional! Don’t make excuses lady! They need to be IN PRISON!
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If I had started life as this young man and endured all the trauma in his life, you bet I would be acting out for attention, love and support. He is aware his parents do not love him. He probably feels helpless.
Exactly. Ripped up the room? I’d rip up the drywall to try to get out.
The kid admitted to trying to hurt the 4 year old by making it drink alcohol calling it an experiment 🤔
He's not normal. The parents just made it worse
He also admitted to pushing his little brother aggressively on his bike knowing his actions could cause harm.
I think he was jealous and resentful. NO EXCUSE for him being locked up like he was. He acted out because of his being held hostage.
@redds7777 I agree there was no excuse for his treatment or having to use a bucket instead of the restroom. The parents deserve to serve time just like they did with the child, but I don't believe I would feel safe with him around my kids. I don't know what I would have done if i were them, but I definitely would have gone about it differently. The child hurting animals and searching up violent images on the computer is definitely a red flag. I'm not sure if that qualifies for acting out. I think it kept the other kids on edge.
@redds7777 Also, the mom is equally as guilty, so they better get the same sentence it's not just the father
"you looking for attention, bro?"... no, he wasnt looking for attention, he was looking for LOVE!
It’s so interesting the parents say this kid does all these violent things, but his sister denies he was ever violent! She wasn’t afraid of him, and he never hurt her. Hmmm….
It's clear to me that that 'violence' is made up by them to 'justify' their behaviour.
Just PUT them AWAY so disgusting! A child! What bullies!!
He has the blink rate of a psychopath! Almost non existant.
What a blabbermouth of a guy! Verbal abuse as its worst. I feel for the young man, no love in there fr that man who was supposed to be a father to him.😢
Well it’s unreasonable period! They continued day in and day out locking him inside that box I wouldn’t put a dead animal in. Pitch black day or night when the lights are out….can you imagine? Dark, silent and smelly for 12-14hours everyday will make anyone go coo coo. Now had they had him in therapy, had him in the house until bedtime and only use that room if he was violent it would be a different story. Right from school to the box and they want a pat on the back for letting him out a few hours over the weekend or want him to be soooooo thankful when they give him a crayon or a snack WTH!
Look the kid obviously has issues whether just on his own or bc this abuse of these 2 caused it or made it worse idk but what I will say he should have been in therapy and bc they haven’t that is called neglect
I think his behavior in the courtroom and his stoic look tells us exactly what type of person he is.