The most interesting thing about Toadette is this weird reoccurring connection she has with Wario - In Mario Party 6 their team names are 'Secret Friends' and in Mario Party 8 they're 'Double Agents' - Wario is a treasure hunter in the Wario Land series and later we see that Toadette also gets into treasure hunting - Both don't believe in workers rights (Toadette being anti-union in Mario Maker 2 and WarioWare employees having to fight for their paychecks) It's all probably a coincidence but the fact there's this much evidence makes me believe she has some sort of criminal double life 😂
Well that's... tenuous. But did you know, the ancient Greek (because modern changes it a bit) word for peaces is Dorakinon? And dora-kinon would take the first syllables from Dragon and Kinopio: the two allies of Peach, Yoshi and Toad. Peaches of course are related to persimmons, which are the third variant of Goombas, since goombas, galoombas and goombrats are desgined after shiitakes, chestnuts and persimmons. So if you ever wondered, why is a MUSHROOM prncess named PEACH? And why is her mushroom ENEMIES named 'Kuribo', after Japanese for chestnut? Well, fungus is well known for invading fruiting trees like chestnut. Bleeding canker may attack a genus called Horse Chestnut, so... grow some HAIR on a horse plant maybe? So there's a TURN into a 'horse hair plant', but not because mushrooms were forced there, but rather THEY parasitized it themselves.
I know Captain Toad was said to not be “the” toad but honestly I can’t help but see them as the same person. I mean even the evolution of the jacket from blue to red in sunshine can be seen in galaxy which would then lead to an explanation on why blue toad took over. Plus now that the film is basically fusing the characters together I can see Nintendo essentially doing a soft retcon since the confirmation of them being separate characters was only said in a Miiverse post
Yeah, Toad and Captain Toad being the same is an acceptable Retcon. deleting DK jr from existence, not so much, but i guess there's nothing i can do about but accept.
To me, main Toad will always be the red spots and blue vest one. The playable blue Toad in the New Super Mario Bros games is apparently named Buckenberry, so I’ll just assume that’s him in 3D world and Mario Maker as well
@@liamphibia apparently, it came from the source code of New Super Mario Bros Wii, but others say it's made up… in some form edit: it came from the development team, according to what another commenter believes is a Destructoid article
Pretty sure Nintendo just make it up as they go along most of the time, to try and work out a cannon origin is impossible, but wowser you put some effort ant research in to this. Respect bro!
Honestly they should add Kinopio-Kun as a playable crossover guest character for other franchises. Like imagine him as a party member in persona or something!
Now I'm imagining him just announcing the most outlandish games possible. An example: "For the first time, the game that defined Western game design will appear on the Nintendo Switch. Join us for the classic gameplay of Half-Life." accompanied by Kinopio-Kun huddled in a vent wearing a tiny HEV suit.
All I'll add to this is that for no discernible reason, I once had a dream involving Digital Devil Saga that somehow incorporated Toad, as in, like, I “““saw””” the battle interface but with one of the portraits depicting Toad? I-I-I have no idea what that was all about
In New Super Mario Bros. Wii and U, the blue Toad is referred to by the development team as Bucken-Berry, and the yellow Toad is referred to as Ala-Gold.
Everyone keeps saying this but never provide any credible sources. Isn't this just a rumor and never been explicitly confirmed? Or am I missing something here?
A character that is easy to handle in many ways, both as an npc and playable It's often criticized a lot, but looking at rayman's teensie, I think it's really easy to handle a character that can also be used as a mob like this.
I think the Mario Movie left even more confusion on Toad and Captain Toad being seperate characters. In the movie, when Toad first appears, he has the Captain Toad theme playing, in addition to him carrying around the backpack most common with Captain Toad. If this is the case, i'd like to think Toad may give the title of captain to another Toad in a future movie to continue going on quests with Mario and the gang. Sort of like an arc for Toad.
On Blue Toad being called Toad in 3D World: his and Yellow Toad’s names don’t actually have the color in their name. They, and the main Toad, are all named Toad, but since there were two playable Toads in NSMBWii, NSMBU, and NSMBUDX, they had to be differentiated. Due to this, I’ve noticed the NSMBWii community refer to them as Boad and Yoad.
My favorite Toad is Toad, the change to blue spots doesn't bother me that much since its done more for him to stand out from Mario, I just wish they'd be consistent about it and stop using generic characters for playable slots. I also think not making Toad and Captain Toad the same character was a missed opportunity to tighten up the Mario continuity a bit. On a side note, I don't find the statement that they originally didn't have a sex in mind for the toads when they first created them to be a confirmation of them being actually genderless, it sounds more to me like Nintendo doesn't care and is undecided one way or another unlike with the Yoshis. Also the disappearance of Toadsworth is a travesty considering he was the closest thing Peach had to a father in full on canon. He should've been in the movie.
I have an irrational frustration with the naming convention of the Toads. Can you imagine being named Human? Humandette? Humansworth? Captain Human?? WHY (ahem) Cool video though.
Toadsworth was actually in concept art for the mario movie so they did consider him But ig casual viewers wouldn’t know who he is so they didn’t wanna confuse them ig idk
I was really disappointed to find out that Toad and Captain Toad weren't the same character. The first time I ever saw Captain Toad was in 3D World, the same game that had a blue Toad accompanying the main group. So when we later meet a red spotted Toad named Captain Toad I just assumed "Oh, so Toad is just having is own side adventure". Then in Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker he's with Toadette, a character whose been partnered with og Toad loads of times, which furthered my belief that they were the same person. So imagine my surprise when I find out that they're completely different people. This annoys me because I thought they were expanding on Toad's character and giving him a chance in the spot light. It feels really redundant to have them be separate people and also shows that Nintendo are really bad at trying to differentiate the MAIN Toad. I honestly think they should just retcon them into being the same person. It would be an easy segue and only add more layers to Toad. I know that Captain Toad first appeared in Galaxy 1 but that game ended with the universe being reset, so they could just say that from that point Toad got an interest adventuring.
Ngl I’m with you bro. I hate that Nintendo does weird things with their characters like that. Toad is a main character with red spots for years. Captain Toad stars a toad with red spots. *different toad* it just don’t make sense to deliberately make things more difficult than they need to be. Same with the inconsistency with Mario & Donkey Kong/DK Jr Or replacing Toadsworth with a random toad, despite Toadsworth being a main character(he was even in the concept art). Making the kooplings related then unrelated to Bowser for some reason. Going out of their way to make Waluigi and Wario look similar and hang out all the time only to claim they’re not related. Refusing to put Daisy in any games(even the ones that star Luigi) etc etc Just weird things like that which raise more questions than answers. It’s not even fun to speculate it’s just disappointing and confusing.
@@348tacos7 Have I got news for you about Daisy. Side note, the Mario franchise has so little lore and contentenuedy that I feel like it would be alright to just ignore what the devs say sometimes and make our own headcanons and assumptions, especially considering how they can retcon themselves at anytime if they feel like it. In my eyes Captain Toad is the Toad because it just makes the most sense to me, and Wario and Waluigi are related because it would just be stupid otherwise. I also always just assumed that Bowser adopted the Koopalings, and that they just aren't blood related. I also ship Toad and Toadette, because why not, I think it's cute.
Maybe they can create a story where Toad wanted to go on an adventure outside the castle. But because he's kinda famous as the Toad who takes care of the princess, he goes under an alias, so he doesn't get special treatment.
@@magic2546I raise my eyebrows when you say Mario has little lore, but I get that delves in the question if you count spin-offs as canon or not (and just the canonicity of Mario in general), which I think spin-offs do count, as we won't have Waluigi and Toadette be more mainstream without those spin-offs to introduce them, IMO.
I love how this guy gets Mario lore right instead of making far fetched theories that Nintendo definitely weren’t thinking about when making the games or trying to put real world logic into a video game
You missed all the other members of the Toad Brigade who have unique names and personalities, also the Blue and Yellow Toads from NSMB have names Bucken-Berry and Ala-Gold!
Weirdest thing I noticed on the SMB movie was that no female toads at all. It was like the mushroom kingdom was the Smurf village. I have no idea where all the Toadettes were.
I agree having no "girl-coded" Toads for the movie is bizzare especially now they're showing female Toads again in the Mario RPG remaster...like I get they don't want to get weird to explain how Toads reproduce, but doing a Smurf is not an answer IMO.
maybe all the girls except for toadette are in a separate tribe nobody knows about... but wait, they said toads dont actually have a gender. maybe toadette just dresses like a girl to fill everybody's void, like boys who dress like girls in all boys boarding schools
@@MegaMegajennifer Could be, I think it's some kind of religious thing. Like, in the Toadstool Tome, god says that females are not allowed outside the home and should just remain inside as they exist for sporing purposes only. lol
The 4 blue Toads with glasses in the Super Mario universe are Hint Toad from Super Mario Odyssey (2017), Russ T. from Paper Mario (2001), Toad General from The Super Mario Bros Movie (2023) and Toadbert from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005).
I personally think that the playable blue toads are the same, being the one nicknamed Bucken-berry, although that name isn't confirmed. Either way, he's my favorite, next to his less-loved yellow counterpart. Edit: this theory specifically excludes SMB2US Toad, as that's the main toad.
Holy moly I remember chatting with that Kinopio kun on LINE! It was pretty janky for an AI chatbot but the fact you could ask it about Nintendo games/characters specifically made it super fun.
im somewhat reminded of a youtube video ive seen where the avengers were interviewing potential new recruits and after some bad guys did the classic "order a lot of pizzas that some 1 else would have to pay for" prank, the superheroes doing the interviews were so impressed with how many pizzas the pizza guy managed to deliver to them that they decided to have him join the team
13:09 didn't they actually have names? I don't remember where this information is from but the blue one is called Bucken Berry and the yellow one is named Ala Gold
I feel _Nintendo_ wanted to create *a seperate distinct Toad Character with a set Identity* when they began making _Super Mario Sunshine_ - they introduced *Toadsworth* to have a clear *Second-in-Command to Princess Peach* _(Someone_ has to maintain the Mushroom Kingdom while the Princess is Kidnapped!), while *a Toad with a Red Vest* (likely to _identify against_ the OG Toad) acts mostly just _to carry everybody's Suitcases._ Sometime between _Sunshine_ and _Galaxy,_ this Toad has seemingly shown promise enough that Peach and Toadsworth have appointed him *Captain of the Royal Guard,* or something - thus now being named *Captain Toad!* While not _the Original, definitive Toad,_ Captain Toad is likely *Nintendo's attempt to create a Marketable Variation of Toad* (just like _Toadette and Toadsworth)_ that wouldn't cause confusion amongst Players when stood alongside the other people of the Mushroom Kingdom. _It was technically a Failure,_ as people *still* got Confused, thinking Captain Toad was meant to be _OG Toad rebooted,_ rather than *a standalone Character.* And while Toadsworth was _somewhat Hit-and-Miss_ wherever he appeared, once Captain Toad got *his distinct Individual Appearance,* he became popular with players enough that _a Minigame_ (then a *Full Game* based on it!) was given to promote him! All in all, _Toadsworth and Captain Toad_ are part of Nintendo's Innovations during *the GameCube Era,* where they tried many other Unique Game and Character Designs and _breaking New Ground in Gaming._ The same Time saw games like _Luigi's Mansion_ (and the *Introduction of Professor E. Gadd),* _Mario & Luigi_ *(AlphaDream's* Spiritual Successor to Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario), _Metroid Prime_ (the *first True 3D Metroid* Title) and many Other Titles within _and outside_ the Mario Universe - all with Characters and Gameplay *Brand-New to their respective Series'!*
As a big dumb nerd who loves mario to the point where I painted and modified a bunch of miniatures for a table top war game I play (Infinity) to look like mario characters, I love these videos! They're fun, informative, and give me knew ideas for painting more minis in the future. Keep up the great work!
To me Mario RPG has always bene the key to how Toad relates to other Toads. I always assumed that group of Toads in Mario Sunshine became that Toad Brigade in the Galax Games and thus that Red One became Captian Toad. Toad always has a Blue Vest regardless of the Color of his Spots. I used to head Canon that the Koopa you play in the Mario Kart Games was Koopa The Quick from 64, but then I realized Koopa The Quick is supposed to be a Giant.
Keegan Michael Key said this at the game awards: "its not a hat, it's a cap. Which is another way of saying hat." So I think Nintendo told him it's still a hat
For clarity i'll tell differences of Toad and Captain Toad. Toad is a loyal member of the princess, he is shown to help peach prepare cakes or assist in hair make-up, his relation with Kinopio-kun is a friend, with Toadette it can be anything, they did dance together in their freetime they enjoy being together. Toad is very cheerful, has a big heart(as in feeling), hard-working, and loyal(same as his friends) Captain toad is a treasure hunting adventurer, and in his game trailer a male voice described him as " he is a bit scatterbrained" and "kind of a scaredy-pants" as the person in the trailer said, or a "reluctant hero".
they said toad and captain toad are not the same person, but earlier you said that they said that toad and toadette are adventure pals in the captain toad series 0.o
To answer some inconsistencies, I think the Toad Brigade is its own cast & crew. Sunshine introduced them, then Galaxy expanded upon them. Pretty sure the group is called the “Toad Brigade” in both games, meaning Red Toad is a seperate character who becomes Captain Toad (which would make sense given the Miiverse post and the fact he evolves from a Toad with a distinct red vest, then red vest and a headlamp, and finally full captain attire). We know Blue Toad from the Brigade is seperate from SM3DW Blue Toad because the Brigade one wears glasses and is playable in the Switch port. The Toads in the Brigade look and act a lot younger in Sunshine so my headcannon is after that game he had his first visit to the eye doctor. I’m surprised you didn’t talk more about the Brigade as they all have a bit of personality sprinkled in. Blue is always giving hints to the player/Mario, Green was known as Banktoad in Galaxy and fittingly opens a store in the Lost Kingdom in Odyssey, Purple was the mailman then curiously got shafted from the group, and Yellow Toad has consistently been portrayed as sleepy, even in Mario Maker 2. For this reason I doubt he’s the NSMBWii/U Yellow Toad. Toad is my favorite and I still learned a few things from this video, but I think there’s a bit more lore under the hood of the Brigade! (though I’m probably just biased)
I think the Yellow and Blue toads from Mario Sunshine could be both the Toad Brigade members and the NSMB toads. I know you said that NSMB yellow toad probably isn't the Toad Brigade yellow toad because the latter is always sleepy but the sunshine toad doesn't have sleeping problems in sunshine. Maybe Yellow Toad developed sleeping problems after Sunshine and the NSMB games.
The Sunshine Toads and Toad Brigade are different characters. Captain Toads dialague in Mario Galaxy makes it extremely obvious this is the first time we've met him.
Oddly enough, when I played the Mario Galaxy games the thought never crossed my mind that the Toad Brigade Captain was the Toad, but at the same time when I later played Captain Toad I just assumed he was Toad. Its funny what just switching the order of the word Captain in the name can do.
14:52 HOLY FUCKING SHIT ASHITA NO JOE REFERENCE!?!?!? MY GUY IS A MAN OF CULTURE!! Ashita no Joe is a fucking masterpiece of story and was so incredibly influential and revolutionary I can't even begin to describe its impact! It's a hidden gem for sure but it's a MUST WATCH!!
The 3 pink Toads in the Super Mario universe are Toadette from Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (2003), Toadiko from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005) and Trading Event Toad from Paper Mario (2001).
I feel like I should've commented on this a year ago, but having just rewatched the video I gotta say that I have now accepted the nickname of "Little Roadie" into my Head-canon.
So, the named main toads are Toadstool, Captain Toad, Toadette, Kinopio-Kun, Toad (from the movie), and apparently Buckenberry who is the main blue toad. The two unnamed main toads are the playable yellow one and the main red one/ones.
Personally I always believed that after Galaxy, Toad decided that he enjoyed being an independent explorer and Blue Toad stepped up as the princess' advisor and ally. And Yellow Toad is there too I guess, maybe he died or just got tired after the NSMB games
The way I interpreted it is that while Toads were ORIGINALLY designed without specific genders in mind, once explicitly female Toads like Toadette and the ones in the Paper Mario series started appearing, the existing Toad design became male. They have genders, it's just male and female Toad initially looked the same.
That is the actual truth "Toads are genderless!!!" Is actually a big missconception, it is on the Mario wiki rumors and Urban legends for a good reason
The way I see it, there was never a "THE Toad." They've fallen into the same hole as characters like Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny; near-identical, like-minded, interchangeable units that we have no hope of tracking between stories unless they specifically say "I'm the one from..."
I think the main toad is the one from SMB2, he's commonly playable in many projects after SMB2 as the only playable toad in spin offs like Mario Kart and Mario Party, and why else would Mario dream about a random Toad unless he knew him personally. My guess on yellow and blue toad is they're friends of the Mario brothers and the princess, because both colored toads occasionally join them on adventures or trips. (NSMB, SM3DW, & LM3.) Captain Toad is just a red vest Toad when he isn't in his gear but again, is a friend.
Love your videos! When are we gonna see your review of the new Mario Movie? (And have you ever thought of redoing your review of the 1999 Sonic OVA so it won't get flagged for some trumped up copyright reason?)
I definitely would love to revisit that review at some point. No immediate plans but a great idea nonetheless. Mario Movie should be coming up shortly, still trying to figure out the best way to edit it to avoid copyrights
The Citeleview is such a lost relic that can never truly be re-lived. Even if the games that got made for have been released and patched for SNES emulators, the full experience with the narration and voice acting and such can't be experienced, since said content only existed through the satellite broadcasts. If only Nintendo knew how much people were interested in it, and then MAYBE released restored versions with the satellite content for the games on virtual console, WITHOUT a need for a live broadcast.
Didn't mention anything about Mushbert or Toad Force V Also with voice do you prefer high pitch Toad or Screech!Toad? I personally prefer Screech!Toad, but I understand some people choose to be wrong and like the other one. That Two Carton a Day smoking habit voice adds a bit to the characterisation x3
Blue and Yellow toads are really there to differentiate the main color of the playable characters. They probably wouldn't put a red toad in NSMB or 3D world because Mario is already the red guy. Yellow toad will have some competition if they ever decide to put Wario into mainline games again.
I think that Toad didnt have an Identity, Red Spots, Blue Vest, everyone just called him Toad, he worked for Princess Peach, same with his twin brothers and his cousin, Blue Toads, and Yellow Toad. One day Bowser, trying to kidnap Peach, kidnapped Princess Toadette and Toad decided that him and his Brothers and Cousin should save Toadette, one Blue Toad would get knowledge of every kingdom and gave them information on where they have to go, Captain decided that the smartest and safest way to get to the Bowsers castle was to mine there, Yellow Toad and the Other Blue Toad deafeted the enimies they faced in the caves but eventualy they made it to Kameks tower they deafeted Kamek, took his wand, went to Bowsers castle, one Blue Toad, and Yellow Toad deafeted the enimies in Bowsers castle, Toad, used Kameks wand to put Bowser in some lava and save Toadette, quickly, the word spread about all the Toads heroics, but the Blue Toads and Yellow Toad told the media to thank Toad for being the real driving source in the recsue, he got the nickname Captain Toad form his heroics during the adventure. and yes, I think Toadette is the princess of the Toads, One step higher than Toadsworth in terms of Power but One step below Peach in terms of power
I’ve been playing through treasure tracker with my gf and it’s a great game! A bit easy to just get through the levels but very fun and creative with Some absolutely gorgeous levels. Also the challenge times are actually challenging some of them you have to hold perfect lines and know how to find little time saves.
Toad's the heir of the Toad family; full name Toad Toad. He has brothers named Red, Yellow, Blue, etc. If you really want to tell them apart, you need to use the middle names.
3D World Toad is the original main Toad and not Blue Toad from the NSMB series. Besides the name differentiation (where Nintendo has always been consistent about referring to Blue Toad as "Blue Toad"), 3D World Toad's Fire Flower form is different from Blue Toad's. Since the Fire Flower form is unique and specific for each character, it can be inferred that it's not Blue Toad in 3D World. Also, iirc in Origami King, a Toad mentions having changed colors, meaning Toads can change colors due to environmental factors. Toad is blue in 3D World as a way to instantly differentiate him from the other characters on screen, and I don't think Nintendo has to spell it out explicitly that it was a reference to his original SMB2 sprite when it's an obvious thing to infer.
You totally forgot Super Mario RPG's Toad, which has multiples, a Chancellor of The Mushroom Kingdom and many other mushroom people as well as a separately named Toad for the Volcano. His name is Hinopio, and it remains that way in at least the USA version. For those that don't know, "Hi" is "fire" so basically "Fire Toad".
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The most interesting thing about Toadette is this weird reoccurring connection she has with Wario
- In Mario Party 6 their team names are 'Secret Friends' and in Mario Party 8 they're 'Double Agents'
- Wario is a treasure hunter in the Wario Land series and later we see that Toadette also gets into treasure hunting
- Both don't believe in workers rights (Toadette being anti-union in Mario Maker 2 and WarioWare employees having to fight for their paychecks)
It's all probably a coincidence but the fact there's this much evidence makes me believe she has some sort of criminal double life 😂
She secretly does Warios dirty work as he builds his empire. If Wario is Heisenberg, Toadette is Lydia
I don't think that's a coincidence...
Well that's... tenuous.
But did you know, the ancient Greek (because modern changes it a bit) word for peaces is Dorakinon? And dora-kinon would take the first syllables from Dragon and Kinopio: the two allies of Peach, Yoshi and Toad. Peaches of course are related to persimmons, which are the third variant of Goombas, since goombas, galoombas and goombrats are desgined after shiitakes, chestnuts and persimmons.
So if you ever wondered, why is a MUSHROOM prncess named PEACH? And why is her mushroom ENEMIES named 'Kuribo', after Japanese for chestnut?
Well, fungus is well known for invading fruiting trees like chestnut. Bleeding canker may attack a genus called Horse Chestnut, so... grow some HAIR on a horse plant maybe? So there's a TURN into a 'horse hair plant', but not because mushrooms were forced there, but rather THEY parasitized it themselves.
"both don't believe in workers rights" hit me like a truck
Wait... Toadette being anti-union would explain a lot about how she behaves in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam.
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I think “toad” is like “guy” where some people are actually named Guy but also you can call anybody guy
oh, that makes more sense than comparing it to "human" but wait, does that mean human toadette would be guyette? o.0
@@MegaMegajennifer If "toad" is the mushroom kingdom equivalent to "guy", then maybe "toadette" is kinda like "gal" if that makes sense.
@@Fatih_M177 oh, that would be cool
@@Fatih_M177or it's equivalent to dude and dudette
I know Captain Toad was said to not be “the” toad but honestly I can’t help but see them as the same person. I mean even the evolution of the jacket from blue to red in sunshine can be seen in galaxy which would then lead to an explanation on why blue toad took over. Plus now that the film is basically fusing the characters together I can see Nintendo essentially doing a soft retcon since the confirmation of them being separate characters was only said in a Miiverse post
I wholeheartedly agree. That's why Toad and Captain Toad her the same character on my channel.
I just posted a comment on my thoughts on this and I completely agree.
Otherwise why have toadette be the other captain. Yeah that makes sense
Yeah, Toad and Captain Toad being the same is an acceptable Retcon. deleting DK jr from existence, not so much, but i guess there's nothing i can do about but accept.
@@banjo9158 For DK Jr., just assume it's the same character as the modern DK; it's the canon in both Donkey Kong 64 and the Mario Movie.
To me, main Toad will always be the red spots and blue vest one. The playable blue Toad in the New Super Mario Bros games is apparently named Buckenberry, so I’ll just assume that’s him in 3D world and Mario Maker as well
"Buckenberry?"
@@liamphibia apparently, it came from the source code of New Super Mario Bros Wii, but others say it's made up… in some form
edit: it came from the development team, according to what another commenter believes is a Destructoid article
In 3D World its the original Toad, hes blue as a reference to his first playable appearance. Which is confusing.
if there is indeed one main toad and his name is Toad that's honestly pretty funny - imagine there was a human named Human.
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Ash's Pikachu is named Pikachu
i've met people named Guy
Man is a prominent last name.
Most people think Toad's annoying, but frankly, I like him a lot. He's got a lot of personality.
I like them, but I miss the unique Toads.
Pretty sure Nintendo just make it up as they go along most of the time, to try and work out a cannon origin is impossible, but wowser you put some effort ant research in to this. Respect bro!
I totally agree. I just like to catch Nintendo stumbling over themselves trying to explain these things 😂
Honestly they should add Kinopio-Kun as a playable crossover guest character for other franchises. Like imagine him as a party member in persona or something!
Add him as a friend of Morgana!
Now I'm imagining him just announcing the most outlandish games possible. An example: "For the first time, the game that defined Western game design will appear on the Nintendo Switch. Join us for the classic gameplay of Half-Life." accompanied by Kinopio-Kun huddled in a vent wearing a tiny HEV suit.
All I'll add to this is that for no discernible reason, I once had a dream involving Digital Devil Saga that somehow incorporated Toad, as in, like, I “““saw””” the battle interface but with one of the portraits depicting Toad? I-I-I have no idea what that was all about
That would be highly outlandish
Good luck explaining that (I mean this in a neutral tone)
In New Super Mario Bros. Wii and U, the blue Toad is referred to by the development team as Bucken-Berry, and the yellow Toad is referred to as Ala-Gold.
yeah
Everyone keeps saying this but never provide any credible sources. Isn't this just a rumor and never been explicitly confirmed? Or am I missing something here?
Wait didn't MatPat make that up? I could be wrong but I think he did in the Mario Timeline video.
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@@bluedekrassI believe it’s from a destructiod article.
Toad(s) and Toadette are my my favorite in Mario Universe. Thank you for covering the history about Toads.
A character that is easy to handle in many ways, both as an npc and playable It's often criticized a lot, but looking at rayman's teensie, I think it's really easy to handle a character that can also be used as a mob like this.
Great video bro and thank you for always clearing up the inconsistencies Nintendo rarely addresses
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8:09 "my wife left me!"
If thats not an edit and legit in that scene among all the other complaints.
... Damn bro that sucks.
"what are toads in the mario universe" umm... adorable mushroom people?
I love Toads. They're so cute; I don't even mind them being everywhere. Still do hope we see Toadsworth again one day.
I think the Mario Movie left even more confusion on Toad and Captain Toad being seperate characters. In the movie, when Toad first appears, he has the Captain Toad theme playing, in addition to him carrying around the backpack most common with Captain Toad. If this is the case, i'd like to think Toad may give the title of captain to another Toad in a future movie to continue going on quests with Mario and the gang. Sort of like an arc for Toad.
The Mario Movie isn't canon to the games.
On Blue Toad being called Toad in 3D World: his and Yellow Toad’s names don’t actually have the color in their name. They, and the main Toad, are all named Toad, but since there were two playable Toads in NSMBWii, NSMBU, and NSMBUDX, they had to be differentiated. Due to this, I’ve noticed the NSMBWii community refer to them as Boad and Yoad.
My favorite Toad is Toad, the change to blue spots doesn't bother me that much since its done more for him to stand out from Mario, I just wish they'd be consistent about it and stop using generic characters for playable slots. I also think not making Toad and Captain Toad the same character was a missed opportunity to tighten up the Mario continuity a bit. On a side note, I don't find the statement that they originally didn't have a sex in mind for the toads when they first created them to be a confirmation of them being actually genderless, it sounds more to me like Nintendo doesn't care and is undecided one way or another unlike with the Yoshis.
Also the disappearance of Toadsworth is a travesty considering he was the closest thing Peach had to a father in full on canon. He should've been in the movie.
I really miss Toadsworth
Toads do have genders it's just something from the wiki
Really wish Toadsworth and Toadette were in the move. But I’m glad Captain Toad was, well I think.
But captain toad is probably my favorite toad lol
my favorite toad is the blue hint toad that is a part of captain toads brigade, hes so cute i love his little glasses :D
I have an irrational frustration with the naming convention of the Toads. Can you imagine being named Human? Humandette? Humansworth? Captain Human?? WHY
(ahem) Cool video though.
Fun fact: Toadsworth is called "𝙼𝚊𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚛𝚘 𝙺𝚒𝚗𝚘𝚙𝚒𝚘" (or Master Kinopio) in Spanish
Toadsworth was actually in concept art for the mario movie so they did consider him
But ig casual viewers wouldn’t know who he is so they didn’t wanna confuse them ig idk
I WANTED HIM NOOOOIOO
"Little Toadie" coming home and being like 'huh this brick looks a lot like jason' 💀💀💀
I was really disappointed to find out that Toad and Captain Toad weren't the same character. The first time I ever saw Captain Toad was in 3D World, the same game that had a blue Toad accompanying the main group. So when we later meet a red spotted Toad named Captain Toad I just assumed "Oh, so Toad is just having is own side adventure". Then in Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker he's with Toadette, a character whose been partnered with og Toad loads of times, which furthered my belief that they were the same person. So imagine my surprise when I find out that they're completely different people.
This annoys me because I thought they were expanding on Toad's character and giving him a chance in the spot light. It feels really redundant to have them be separate people and also shows that Nintendo are really bad at trying to differentiate the MAIN Toad.
I honestly think they should just retcon them into being the same person. It would be an easy segue and only add more layers to Toad. I know that Captain Toad first appeared in Galaxy 1 but that game ended with the universe being reset, so they could just say that from that point Toad got an interest adventuring.
Ngl I’m with you bro. I hate that Nintendo does weird things with their characters like that.
Toad is a main character with red spots for years. Captain Toad stars a toad with red spots. *different toad* it just don’t make sense to deliberately make things more difficult than they need to be. Same with the inconsistency with Mario & Donkey Kong/DK Jr
Or replacing Toadsworth with a random toad, despite Toadsworth being a main character(he was even in the concept art).
Making the kooplings related then unrelated to Bowser for some reason. Going out of their way to make Waluigi and Wario look similar and hang out all the time only to claim they’re not related.
Refusing to put Daisy in any games(even the ones that star Luigi) etc etc
Just weird things like that which raise more questions than answers. It’s not even fun to speculate it’s just disappointing and confusing.
@@348tacos7 Have I got news for you about Daisy. Side note, the Mario franchise has so little lore and contentenuedy that I feel like it would be alright to just ignore what the devs say sometimes and make our own headcanons and assumptions, especially considering how they can retcon themselves at anytime if they feel like it. In my eyes Captain Toad is the Toad because it just makes the most sense to me, and Wario and Waluigi are related because it would just be stupid otherwise. I also always just assumed that Bowser adopted the Koopalings, and that they just aren't blood related. I also ship Toad and Toadette, because why not, I think it's cute.
Maybe they can create a story where Toad wanted to go on an adventure outside the castle. But because he's kinda famous as the Toad who takes care of the princess, he goes under an alias, so he doesn't get special treatment.
Maybe she is "involved" with captain toad, and normal toad is her relative
@@magic2546I raise my eyebrows when you say Mario has little lore, but I get that delves in the question if you count spin-offs as canon or not (and just the canonicity of Mario in general), which I think spin-offs do count, as we won't have Waluigi and Toadette be more mainstream without those spin-offs to introduce them, IMO.
I appreciate the use of the Toad theme from Mario Strikers Charged in the intro
2:02 lol beauty impression, mate, spot on ^_^'
6:15 it was the Mama Luigi that gave you my thumbs up, excellent video my friend.
I love how this guy gets Mario lore right instead of making far fetched theories that Nintendo definitely weren’t thinking about when making the games or trying to put real world logic into a video game
*Cough Cough Matpat Cough Cough*
You missed all the other members of the Toad Brigade who have unique names and personalities, also the Blue and Yellow Toads from NSMB have names Bucken-Berry and Ala-Gold!
Weirdest thing I noticed on the SMB movie was that no female toads at all. It was like the mushroom kingdom was the Smurf village. I have no idea where all the Toadettes were.
I agree having no "girl-coded" Toads for the movie is bizzare especially now they're showing female Toads again in the Mario RPG remaster...like I get they don't want to get weird to explain how Toads reproduce, but doing a Smurf is not an answer IMO.
maybe all the girls except for toadette are in a separate tribe nobody knows about... but wait, they said toads dont actually have a gender. maybe toadette just dresses like a girl to fill everybody's void, like boys who dress like girls in all boys boarding schools
@@MegaMegajennifer Could be, I think it's some kind of religious thing. Like, in the Toadstool Tome, god says that females are not allowed outside the home and should just remain inside as they exist for sporing purposes only. lol
@@TheAnax oh my glob. D: but then why does toadette get to go outside? unless she doesnt actually count? ugh, im so confused
@@MegaMegajennifer Every time she leaves the house, she defies the laws of the Great Shroom, and so, she risks being stoned to death by Thwomps. lol
You've been killing it with these uploads
7:31 I love when you play the Death Note musicmatch it's funny as hell 😂
The 4 blue Toads with glasses in the Super Mario universe are Hint Toad from Super Mario Odyssey (2017), Russ T. from Paper Mario (2001), Toad General from The Super Mario Bros Movie (2023) and Toadbert from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005).
i thought the toad in the red vest was named kyle. "kyle, is that my vest?"
It's a shame Toadsworth, Captain Toad and Toadette were cut from the movie.
4:10 I was trying to forget this scene 😭 and you bring it back lmaooo and yes plz do a video on the Japan only USA version
I personally think that the playable blue toads are the same, being the one nicknamed Bucken-berry, although that name isn't confirmed. Either way, he's my favorite, next to his less-loved yellow counterpart.
Edit: this theory specifically excludes SMB2US Toad, as that's the main toad.
I'm disappointed the main Toad didn't make squeaky toy noises when he jumps in the movie.
Holy moly I remember chatting with that Kinopio kun on LINE! It was pretty janky for an AI chatbot but the fact you could ask it about Nintendo games/characters specifically made it super fun.
im somewhat reminded of a youtube video ive seen where the avengers were interviewing potential new recruits and after some bad guys did the classic "order a lot of pizzas that some 1 else would have to pay for" prank, the superheroes doing the interviews were so impressed with how many pizzas the pizza guy managed to deliver to them that they decided to have him join the team
13:09 didn't they actually have names? I don't remember where this information is from but the blue one is called Bucken Berry and the yellow one is named Ala Gold
Fantastic research, you're doing great job with all these lore videos!
I feel _Nintendo_ wanted to create *a seperate distinct Toad Character with a set Identity* when they began making _Super Mario Sunshine_ - they introduced *Toadsworth* to have a clear *Second-in-Command to Princess Peach* _(Someone_ has to maintain the Mushroom Kingdom while the Princess is Kidnapped!), while *a Toad with a Red Vest* (likely to _identify against_ the OG Toad) acts mostly just _to carry everybody's Suitcases._
Sometime between _Sunshine_ and _Galaxy,_ this Toad has seemingly shown promise enough that Peach and Toadsworth have appointed him *Captain of the Royal Guard,* or something - thus now being named *Captain Toad!*
While not _the Original, definitive Toad,_ Captain Toad is likely *Nintendo's attempt to create a Marketable Variation of Toad* (just like _Toadette and Toadsworth)_ that wouldn't cause confusion amongst Players when stood alongside the other people of the Mushroom Kingdom. _It was technically a Failure,_ as people *still* got Confused, thinking Captain Toad was meant to be _OG Toad rebooted,_ rather than *a standalone Character.* And while Toadsworth was _somewhat Hit-and-Miss_ wherever he appeared, once Captain Toad got *his distinct Individual Appearance,* he became popular with players enough that _a Minigame_ (then a *Full Game* based on it!) was given to promote him!
All in all, _Toadsworth and Captain Toad_ are part of Nintendo's Innovations during *the GameCube Era,* where they tried many other Unique Game and Character Designs and _breaking New Ground in Gaming._ The same Time saw games like _Luigi's Mansion_ (and the *Introduction of Professor E. Gadd),* _Mario & Luigi_ *(AlphaDream's* Spiritual Successor to Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario), _Metroid Prime_ (the *first True 3D Metroid* Title) and many Other Titles within _and outside_ the Mario Universe - all with Characters and Gameplay *Brand-New to their respective Series'!*
About Toadsworth, it has been stated that... Bowser ate him; "one of these Toad/Toadette creatures need to go....hmmm I do like chewy food"
As a big dumb nerd who loves mario to the point where I painted and modified a bunch of miniatures for a table top war game I play (Infinity) to look like mario characters, I love these videos! They're fun, informative, and give me knew ideas for painting more minis in the future. Keep up the great work!
To me Mario RPG has always bene the key to how Toad relates to other Toads.
I always assumed that group of Toads in Mario Sunshine became that Toad Brigade in the Galax Games and thus that Red One became Captian Toad.
Toad always has a Blue Vest regardless of the Color of his Spots.
I used to head Canon that the Koopa you play in the Mario Kart Games was Koopa The Quick from 64, but then I realized Koopa The Quick is supposed to be a Giant.
We need *Toadsworth* In the next *Super* *Mario* *Bros* *Movie*
This whole "does Main Toad have red or blue spots" thing really puts into question who is assisting Peach and Daisy in Smash Ultimate...
Maybe main toad is peach’s assistant and nsmb blue toad(bucken berry) is daisy’s assistant
Your commitment to 'brazas' is so deliciously petty and I love every moment of it!
Keegan Michael Key said this at the game awards: "its not a hat, it's a cap. Which is another way of saying hat." So I think Nintendo told him it's still a hat
I love the way he pronounces super Mario brothers.
For clarity i'll tell differences of Toad and Captain Toad.
Toad is a loyal member of the princess, he is shown to help peach prepare cakes or assist in hair make-up, his relation with Kinopio-kun is a friend, with Toadette it can be anything, they did dance together in their freetime they enjoy being together.
Toad is very cheerful, has a big heart(as in feeling), hard-working, and loyal(same as his friends)
Captain toad is a treasure hunting adventurer, and in his game trailer a male voice described him as " he is a bit scatterbrained" and "kind of a scaredy-pants" as the person in the trailer said, or a "reluctant hero".
they said toad and captain toad are not the same person, but earlier you said that they said that toad and toadette are adventure pals in the captain toad series 0.o
To answer some inconsistencies, I think the Toad Brigade is its own cast & crew. Sunshine introduced them, then Galaxy expanded upon them. Pretty sure the group is called the “Toad Brigade” in both games, meaning Red Toad is a seperate character who becomes Captain Toad (which would make sense given the Miiverse post and the fact he evolves from a Toad with a distinct red vest, then red vest and a headlamp, and finally full captain attire).
We know Blue Toad from the Brigade is seperate from SM3DW Blue Toad because the Brigade one wears glasses and is playable in the Switch port. The Toads in the Brigade look and act a lot younger in Sunshine so my headcannon is after that game he had his first visit to the eye doctor.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk more about the Brigade as they all have a bit of personality sprinkled in. Blue is always giving hints to the player/Mario, Green was known as Banktoad in Galaxy and fittingly opens a store in the Lost Kingdom in Odyssey, Purple was the mailman then curiously got shafted from the group, and Yellow Toad has consistently been portrayed as sleepy, even in Mario Maker 2. For this reason I doubt he’s the NSMBWii/U Yellow Toad.
Toad is my favorite and I still learned a few things from this video, but I think there’s a bit more lore under the hood of the Brigade! (though I’m probably just biased)
I think the Yellow and Blue toads from Mario Sunshine could be both the Toad Brigade members and the NSMB toads. I know you said that NSMB yellow toad probably isn't the Toad Brigade yellow toad because the latter is always sleepy but the sunshine toad doesn't have sleeping problems in sunshine. Maybe Yellow Toad developed sleeping problems after Sunshine and the NSMB games.
The Sunshine Toads and Toad Brigade are different characters.
Captain Toads dialague in Mario Galaxy makes it extremely obvious this is the first time we've met him.
Oddly enough, when I played the Mario Galaxy games the thought never crossed my mind that the Toad Brigade Captain was the Toad, but at the same time when I later played Captain Toad I just assumed he was Toad. Its funny what just switching the order of the word Captain in the name can do.
14:52 HOLY FUCKING SHIT ASHITA NO JOE REFERENCE!?!?!?
MY GUY IS A MAN OF CULTURE!!
Ashita no Joe is a fucking masterpiece of story and was so incredibly influential and revolutionary I can't even begin to describe its impact!
It's a hidden gem for sure but it's a MUST WATCH!!
Headcanon: the Fungus Federation is to the Mushroom Kingdom what the USA is to the UK.
That's why George Washingtoad exists in the animated series.
The way you got me so attached to Kinopio-Kun and then revealed he was MURDERED 😢
Your commitment to pronouncing it "Supah mario brazaz" singlehandedly made me subscribe to your channel. Well, that and your videos are entertaining.
The 3 pink Toads in the Super Mario universe are Toadette from Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (2003), Toadiko from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005) and Trading Event Toad from Paper Mario (2001).
in the Super Mario Bros. Wonder trailer it looks like the playable Toad is yellow
the world is a cruel place
No
I feel like I should've commented on this a year ago, but having just rewatched the video I gotta say that I have now accepted the nickname of "Little Roadie" into my Head-canon.
The 2 chef Toads from the 2 Paper Mario games are Tayce T. from Paper Mario (2001) and Zess T. from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (2004).
15:32 Actually, in the Game Awards, Keegan-Michael Key said that Toad wears a cap.
We need an origin oracle for the baby version of the Mario characters, those things are confusing as hell
Not really
So, the named main toads are Toadstool, Captain Toad, Toadette, Kinopio-Kun, Toad (from the movie), and apparently Buckenberry who is the main blue toad. The two unnamed main toads are the playable yellow one and the main red one/ones.
I love your commitment to the pronunciation. Your pettiness is showing.
There's also a Green Toad featured in Wario's Woods. Could he potentially be related to Kinopio-kun?
That Green Toad in Wario’s Woods is the Keeby of the Mario franchise: he just exists
When Toad is introduced in the Mario movie, Captain Toad’s theme played for a bit
13:12 apparently they have actual names yellow is ala gold and blue is buckleberry (idk if I got this right)
thanks for your amazing work o great prophet !
Personally I always believed that after Galaxy, Toad decided that he enjoyed being an independent explorer and Blue Toad stepped up as the princess' advisor and ally. And Yellow Toad is there too I guess, maybe he died or just got tired after the NSMB games
The way I interpreted it is that while Toads were ORIGINALLY designed without specific genders in mind, once explicitly female Toads like Toadette and the ones in the Paper Mario series started appearing, the existing Toad design became male.
They have genders, it's just male and female Toad initially looked the same.
That is the actual truth
"Toads are genderless!!!" Is actually a big missconception, it is on the Mario wiki rumors and Urban legends for a good reason
The way I see it, there was never a "THE Toad." They've fallen into the same hole as characters like Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny; near-identical, like-minded, interchangeable units that we have no hope of tracking between stories unless they specifically say "I'm the one from..."
Paper Mario Fans: Still Have Nightmares Of That Name of that little human with mushroom cap
i love the commitment to super Mario brosas pronunciation
Youre gonna do the Zelda lore? If you can get me to fully understand it despite me never having played a Zelda game, that will be incredible
I’ll try my best 😂 Probably why I’m stalling with these last few Mario characters
I like that captain toae d has become a mythical, larger than life character in origami king.
I think the main toad is the one from SMB2, he's commonly playable in many projects after SMB2 as the only playable toad in spin offs like Mario Kart and Mario Party, and why else would Mario dream about a random Toad unless he knew him personally. My guess on yellow and blue toad is they're friends of the Mario brothers and the princess, because both colored toads occasionally join them on adventures or trips. (NSMB, SM3DW, & LM3.) Captain Toad is just a red vest Toad when he isn't in his gear but again, is a friend.
Love your videos! When are we gonna see your review of the new Mario Movie? (And have you ever thought of redoing your review of the 1999 Sonic OVA so it won't get flagged for some trumped up copyright reason?)
I definitely would love to revisit that review at some point. No immediate plans but a great idea nonetheless. Mario Movie should be coming up shortly, still trying to figure out the best way to edit it to avoid copyrights
When he says super Mario brothers, I hear super Mario Brazzers....
He says it that way on purpose, to add flair and humor.
The fucked up part is that now Wonder uses yellow Toad as the base one lol
The Citeleview is such a lost relic that can never truly be re-lived. Even if the games that got made for have been released and patched for SNES emulators, the full experience with the narration and voice acting and such can't be experienced, since said content only existed through the satellite broadcasts.
If only Nintendo knew how much people were interested in it, and then MAYBE released restored versions with the satellite content for the games on virtual console, WITHOUT a need for a live broadcast.
I refuse to believe Toad and Captain Toad are separate characters until we see them together in the same game
Aren't they both in Super Mario 3D world??
Didn't mention anything about Mushbert or Toad Force V
Also with voice do you prefer high pitch Toad or Screech!Toad? I personally prefer Screech!Toad, but I understand some people choose to be wrong and like the other one. That Two Carton a Day smoking habit voice adds a bit to the characterisation x3
I’d go with Screech voice. It seems to be what everyone remembers most 😂
THE Toad, to me, is Captain Toad, he's the only one consistently seen with Toadette
My favorite Toad is Toad himself.
Blue and Yellow toads are really there to differentiate the main color of the playable characters. They probably wouldn't put a red toad in NSMB or 3D world because Mario is already the red guy.
Yellow toad will have some competition if they ever decide to put Wario into mainline games again.
I really want Toadsworth back, and Kinopio-Kun too. I just heard of this fellah and he needs to come back.
I think that Toad didnt have an Identity, Red Spots, Blue Vest, everyone just called him Toad, he worked for Princess Peach, same with his twin brothers and his cousin, Blue Toads, and Yellow Toad. One day Bowser, trying to kidnap Peach, kidnapped Princess Toadette and Toad decided that him and his Brothers and Cousin should save Toadette, one Blue Toad would get knowledge of every kingdom and gave them information on where they have to go, Captain decided that the smartest and safest way to get to the Bowsers castle was to mine there, Yellow Toad and the Other Blue Toad deafeted the enimies they faced in the caves but eventualy they made it to Kameks tower they deafeted Kamek, took his wand, went to Bowsers castle, one Blue Toad, and Yellow Toad deafeted the enimies in Bowsers castle, Toad, used Kameks wand to put Bowser in some lava and save Toadette, quickly, the word spread about all the Toads heroics, but the Blue Toads and Yellow Toad told the media to thank Toad for being the real driving source in the recsue, he got the nickname Captain Toad form his heroics during the adventure. and yes, I think Toadette is the princess of the Toads, One step higher than Toadsworth in terms of Power but One step below Peach in terms of power
I’ve been playing through treasure tracker with my gf and it’s a great game! A bit easy to just get through the levels but very fun and creative with Some absolutely gorgeous levels. Also the challenge times are actually challenging some of them you have to hold perfect lines and know how to find little time saves.
Although not canon, I always refer to the yellow playable Toad as Alah-Gold and the blue playable Toad as Buckenberry
Toad's the heir of the Toad family; full name Toad Toad. He has brothers named Red, Yellow, Blue, etc. If you really want to tell them apart, you need to use the middle names.
3D World Toad is the original main Toad and not Blue Toad from the NSMB series. Besides the name differentiation (where Nintendo has always been consistent about referring to Blue Toad as "Blue Toad"), 3D World Toad's Fire Flower form is different from Blue Toad's. Since the Fire Flower form is unique and specific for each character, it can be inferred that it's not Blue Toad in 3D World. Also, iirc in Origami King, a Toad mentions having changed colors, meaning Toads can change colors due to environmental factors.
Toad is blue in 3D World as a way to instantly differentiate him from the other characters on screen, and I don't think Nintendo has to spell it out explicitly that it was a reference to his original SMB2 sprite when it's an obvious thing to infer.
You totally forgot Super Mario RPG's Toad, which has multiples, a Chancellor of The Mushroom Kingdom and many other mushroom people as well as a separately named Toad for the Volcano. His name is Hinopio, and it remains that way in at least the USA version. For those that don't know, "Hi" is "fire" so basically "Fire Toad".