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  • Túrin Turambar is one of the greatest warriors in The Silmarillion. We track his many travels from throughout his life - his childhood in Dor-lómin, fostering in Doriath, leading the group of outlaws (the Gaurwaith), as well as his time in Nargothrond and Brethil. We follow his great friendship with Beleg Strongbow, his many tragic deeds, and his greatest fight with Glaurung the dragon.
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    Turin - Kenneth Sofia
    Beleg - Natalie Chen
    Turin - Liga Klavina
    Charge of Mormegil - Robert Bugan
    Hurin & Morgoth - Denis Gordeev
    Turin Turambar - Alan Lee
    Beleriand Map - Lamaarcana
    Hurin - Steamey
    Lalaith - Ted Nasmith
    Laughter is stilled - Anna Kulisz
    Turin - Jenny Dolfen
    Morgoth punishes Hurin - Ted Nasmith
    Morgoth curses Hurin - Fumeres Art
    Morwen and Turin - Marya Filatova
    Thingol Fosters Turin - Denis Gordeev
    Beleg Saves Young Turin - Maria Awsejkowa
    Beren & Luthien in the Court of Thingol & Melian - Donato Giancola
    Morwen and Turin - Catherine Chmiel
    The Second Sorrow of Turin - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin - Klaus Wittmann
    The Royal Court of Thingol - Steamey
    Young Turin & Beleg - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin Turambar - Jenny Dolfen
    Sword and Bow - Julia Lyasgina
    Dragon Helm of Dor-lomin - Jan Pospisil
    Hurin in Captivity - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin and Saeros - Denis Cordeev
    Turin and Saeros - Ivana Lekseich
    The Shaming of Saeros - Ralph Damiani
    Saeros' Fatal Leap - Ted Nasmith
    Saeros' Death - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin Among the Outlaws - Alan Lee
    The Gaurwaith - Peter Xavier Price
    Mim the petty-dwarf - Anke Eissmann
    Turin Turambar - Snake9008
    Turin Saves the Woman - Denis Gordeev
    Forweg's end - Anke Eissmann
    Turin and Beleg - Anke Eissmann
    The Petty-Dwarves - Alan Lee
    Mim, Turin, & the Gaurwaith - Steamey
    Amon Rudh - Kenneth Sofia
    Turin & Mim - Denis Gordeev
    Turin & Mim - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin begs leave of Thingol & Melian - Anke Eissmann
    Two Captains - Jenny Dolfen
    The Helm and the Bow - Abe Papakhian
    Turin - Kenneth Sofia
    Amon Rudh - Isaac Luna
    The Land of Bow & Helm - Alan Lee
    Pippin and Merry Captured by Orcs - Inger Edelfeldt
    Beleg and Turin - Charles Burggraf
    He looked down on Beleg's face - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin Kills Beleg - Ted Nasmith
    Turin and Beleg - Steamey
    Nargothrond - Jonathan Guzi
    Turin and Finduilas - Denis Gordeev
    Turin in Nargothrond - Klaus Wittmann
    Turin in Nargothrond - Alan Lee
    Nargothrond - Jesse Vandijk
    The Orc Hose is Ambushed in Brethil - Ted Nasmith
    The Reforging of Anglachel - Alan Lee
    The Mormegil - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin Bears Gwindor to Safety - Ted Nasmith
    Gwindor's Death - Peter Xavier Price
    Sack of Nargothrond - Donato Giancola
    Turin Frozen - Denis Gordeev
    Turin Confronts Glaurung - Turner Mohan
    Turin & Glaurung - Helge C Balzer
    Tuor & Voronwe See Turin at the Pool of Ivrin - Ted Nasmith
    Turin Reaches the Abandoned Homestead - Ted Nasmith
    Turin attacks Brodda - Denis Gordeev
    Mountains of Mithrim - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin - Jan Pospisil
    Finduilas' Death - Ebe Kastein
    La Maldicion de Turin Turambar - BrokenMachine86
    Ephel Brandir - Alan Lee
    Turambar - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin & warriors - Denis Gordeev
    Turin & Nienor - Giuliano G Alves
    Turin finds Niniel - Denis Gordeev
    Nineor Niniel - Simona Brunilde Jero
    The Dragon-helm of Dor-lomin - Joona Kujanen
    Nienor Niniel - Thomas Allen Sievert
    The Dragon-helm - Klaus Wittmann
    Glaurung - Amisgaudi Art
    Turin before Glaurung - Peter Xavier Price
    Turin Bemused by the Eyes of Glaurung - Alan Lee
    The Slaying of Glaurung - Darrell Sweet
    Master of Doom - Catherine Chmiel
    Nienor in Brethil - Alan Lee
    Glaurung's Gaze - Ebe Kastein
    Nienor Finds Turin - Kenneth Sofia
    Nienor finds Turin - Denis Gordeev
    Nienor & Glaurung - Anke Eissmann
    Journey of Morwen & Nienor - Alan Lee
    Nienor discovers Turin - Alarie
    The last moments of Nienor - Steamey
    Death of Glaurung - Alan Lee
    Woodmen of Brethil - Alan Lee
    Hunting Party - Anke Eissmann
    Turin and Gurthang - Klaus Wittmann
    Turin's Death - Denis Gordeev
    The Death of Turin - Alan Lee
    Men Find Turin - Denis Gordeev
    Hurin Finds Morwen - Ted Nasmith
    Death of Morwen - Alan Lee
    Tol Morwen - Stefan Meisl
    Turin vs Morgoth - Jan Drenovec
    Tulkas vs Morgoth - Antonio Vinci
    Turin Turambar - Alan Lee
    Elrond and Estel - Kuliszu
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  • @VinnyPTAstartes
    @VinnyPTAstartes 2 года назад +1750

    Turin: This is the worst day of my life!
    Morgoth: Worst day of your life so far

    • @Raleyg
      @Raleyg 2 года назад +73

      Every. Single. Day.

    • @SW-fn7cl
      @SW-fn7cl 2 года назад +6

      😂

    • @PhillipG34
      @PhillipG34 2 года назад +18

      The story in a nutshell lmao

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 Год назад +18

      Morgoth: "Imma let you finish, Imma let you finish, but your next day and the day after that and the day after that are going to be your worst days of all time, of all time!"

    • @OmarTheAtheistAziz
      @OmarTheAtheistAziz Год назад +4

      didn't know Homer & Bart were a fan of Tolkien

  • @SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy
    @SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy 2 года назад +532

    Something happens to Turin
    Turin: "huh, guess I'll change my name"

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  2 года назад +48

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy
      @SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy 2 года назад +10

      @@NerdoftheRings love your content, keep up the great work 💜

    • @uzaysezer9565
      @uzaysezer9565 2 года назад +25

      I think in a way by changing his name he is trying to also leave behind his ill fate and start fresh, but the curse always finds its way back to him. Though this theory is bit hampered by how some other characters can have 20000000 different names for funsies

    • @Ace-cr9qt
      @Ace-cr9qt 2 года назад +4

      @@NerdoftheRings You should do a video about the dwarves in the first Age

    • @ottarbirkeland239
      @ottarbirkeland239 2 года назад

      Normal in many cultures. My own grandfather changed his last name several times, just because he moved. He used his last name as an postal zip code.

  • @johndoe5432
    @johndoe5432 2 года назад +882

    Turin, otherwise known as the unluckiest dude in existence.

    • @freibier
      @freibier 2 года назад +87

      Yup, and every day of his life is "wait, it gets worse!"

    • @dannyc.3382
      @dannyc.3382 2 года назад +12

      That sword was bad luck!!!

    • @johns1625
      @johns1625 2 года назад +8

      Yeah but that sword tho

    • @artimuos903
      @artimuos903 2 года назад +25

      Actually it's his dad who got more unlucky.

    • @beeell8017
      @beeell8017 Год назад +10

      curse of morgoth

  • @olis5233
    @olis5233 2 года назад +1020

    Ever since I was a kid The Children of Húrin always screamed 'Oscar winning epic tragedy' to me.
    This really is Tolkien's most Shakespearean tale, it deserves a lot more love. 👌

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 2 года назад +37

      A Classic Greek Tragedy.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne 2 года назад +51

      It's inspired by - actully, to large degree based on - the tale of Kullervo from Kalevala, the collection of ancient Finnish poetry. The scene of Túrin's suicide is pretty much the same scene as Kullervo's suicide, with the names changed.

    • @olis5233
      @olis5233 2 года назад +2

      @@AnnaMarianne Ah that's really cool!

    • @peterandjunko
      @peterandjunko 2 года назад +24

      The part with Glaurung is directly inspired by the Sigurd/Siegfried story from Norse/Wagner. Sigurd kills the dragon from a pit below with his fathers sword.

    • @gwarner99b
      @gwarner99b 2 года назад +5

      @@AnnaMarianne And there is an excellent classical composition by Sibelius, also called Kullervo, which I would recommend to any Tolkien fan. Available on Spotify in several performances.
      Edit: also here on RUclips at ruclips.net/video/rZ3vNr4EscQ/видео.html

  • @bernardomartinez6776
    @bernardomartinez6776 Год назад +87

    Knowing that Turin Turambar is the chosen one to put an end to Morgoth at the end of all time, gives me goosebumbs.

    • @jaieregilmore971
      @jaieregilmore971 5 месяцев назад +9

      So how do you think he will come back? Will be reincarnated or will he be leave the hall of Mandos with his gear ready for war.

  • @SpecialOrder_937
    @SpecialOrder_937 2 года назад +556

    The death of Beleg is one of the most striking passages in all of Tolkien’s works , that scene in burned into my mind

    • @goodputin4324
      @goodputin4324 2 года назад +18

      At the hands of Anglachel of all weapons.

    • @SpecialOrder_937
      @SpecialOrder_937 2 года назад +18

      @@goodputin4324
      the weapon that still held the malice of its maker was won by a heart filled with the love of friendship

    • @goodputin4324
      @goodputin4324 2 года назад +15

      @@SpecialOrder_937 tragic for Beleg and Turin in the end.

    • @SpecialOrder_937
      @SpecialOrder_937 2 года назад +4

      @@goodputin4324
      And they are sundered from each other forever

    • @goodputin4324
      @goodputin4324 2 года назад +3

      @@SpecialOrder_937 sad indeed.

  • @Modulates
    @Modulates 2 года назад +773

    A really heart wrenching story read by the GOAT himself: Christopher Lee.

    • @olis5233
      @olis5233 2 года назад +68

      My god that audiobook is next level incredible.
      Christopher is greatly missed ❤️

    • @Modulates
      @Modulates 2 года назад +44

      @@olis5233 forever and always. He and Ian Mckellan are truly the wizards we deserve.

    • @vratislavgrozayasherov
      @vratislavgrozayasherov 2 года назад +5

      i dont like turin

    • @ismailcanozdemir348
      @ismailcanozdemir348 2 года назад +18

      @@vratislavgrozayasherov god for you, theoden

    • @nickolas.vicente
      @nickolas.vicente 2 года назад +8

      Hearing him do the Glaurung voice was so epic

  • @quaffdowngin
    @quaffdowngin 2 года назад +206

    Tolkien masterfully captures the despair of both Nienor and Turin at the end to the point that the reader experiences it emotionally, and it is devestating.

  • @Aelrandir
    @Aelrandir 2 года назад +308

    I feel like Beleg is such an underappreciated elf that hardly ever gets mentioned. Fiercely loyal, and from the beginning almost acts as a mentor/elder brother like figure to Turin. No doubt it's partially thanks to him that Turin had such skill of arms and martial combat. I wonder how things might have gone different had he not been slain as he did. He's probably my favorite of the Sindarin elves.

    • @laurelelasselin
      @laurelelasselin 2 года назад +11

      Beleg is amazing, very true

    • @audreydimmel6674
      @audreydimmel6674 2 года назад +10

      If I could change one thing in Middle-Earth's timeline. Just one. Beleg would have lived.

    • @Max1990Power
      @Max1990Power 2 года назад +3

      He is my favourite as well. I see a lot of myself in Beleg. Or he inspired me to be more like him. Ever since I read silmarillion when I was 14.

    • @johns1625
      @johns1625 2 года назад +1

      😭😭😭

    • @gorghor
      @gorghor Год назад +5

      Beleg was also exceptionally skilled with a bow. Elves in general are amazing archers (especially in the first age, I don't think anybody could question the prowess of Elven warriors when you have characters like Fingolfin literally wounding the dark lord 7 times), so to be renowned with a bow even among the Elves is no small feat.

  • @elvenstar32
    @elvenstar32 2 года назад +57

    Hurin: Damn, my family cannot be any more effed up!
    Morgoth: Hold my beer...

  • @NomadUrpagi
    @NomadUrpagi 2 года назад +133

    Most people would forever fall into depression after 2-3 serious mistakes, but Turin endured 8 of them before he gave up.

    • @JonJon-pj9ly
      @JonJon-pj9ly Год назад +5

      This one hit me like a truck

    • @NomadUrpagi
      @NomadUrpagi Год назад +1

      @@JonJon-pj9ly how

    • @JonJon-pj9ly
      @JonJon-pj9ly Год назад +2

      @@NomadUrpagi Ive made some mistakes and I struggle to not let them bring me down. Your comment os powerful cuz I think most people go throught that.

    • @NomadUrpagi
      @NomadUrpagi Год назад +2

      @@JonJon-pj9ly personally what i would do is share my struggles who i really trust(usually a friend, a family member or a wife/gf which i dont have), which, obviously, helps us feel we are not alone because someone understands us and cares about us. But, i assume, you already know all this and my cliche advice is of no use, as it is well known that everyone has their own struggles in life.

    • @JonJon-pj9ly
      @JonJon-pj9ly Год назад +2

      @@NomadUrpagi Thanks bro (or sis). I really believe everybody goes thought that at some point, like you start to believe that your current state is solely based on your past decisions, and not only you coulve been much better today, but also that you lost precious time. Sometimes you question if you have virtue. Its nothing too dreadful like Turin, its just normal stuff, sometimes I worry if I have made life of others worse with my decisions. Some of them make you struggle a bit in order to rebuild yourself, but thats normal I guess.

  • @Freshwater121
    @Freshwater121 2 года назад +326

    Where’s Túrin been? Easy, just follow the path of tragedies and disasters.

    • @Prich319
      @Prich319 8 месяцев назад +1

      More like follow the trail of bodies.

  • @tonybaker1268
    @tonybaker1268 2 года назад +90

    30 seconds in and the depression already has hit.

    • @Raz.C
      @Raz.C 2 года назад +7

      Yeah, as soon as I hear the name 'Turin' I start getting depressed.

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 2 года назад +2

      I only read it once or twice...it is THE MOST depressing of Tolkien's stories yet so revealing of humanity's fallen nature.

    • @Raz.C
      @Raz.C 2 года назад +1

      @@Eowyn3Pride
      "Humanity's fallen nature?"
      I think you're misremembering the tale. It strikes me as eminently more apt to describe it as a dichotomous struggle both internal and external, each side both influencing and feeding off the other.

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 2 года назад +2

      @@Raz.C thank you for your intellectual insights into my lack of educational understanding that may cause me to dissect literary works into simplistic misunderstandings.
      Your absolutely correct, it's been a long time since I've read anything remotely enlightening.

    • @Raz.C
      @Raz.C 2 года назад +1

      @@Eowyn3Pride
      Wow. You sound like you just want to fight.
      Tell you what; You go ahead, I'll catch up to you.

  • @n00bplayer72
    @n00bplayer72 2 года назад +102

    As a writer and an artist, I can confirm that we all have that character that has an edgy, tragic backstory and goes through edgy, tragic things all the time, but _DEAR LORD_ Tolkien, you didn't have to go this hard!

  • @androkles04
    @androkles04 2 года назад +126

    One of the only books that's actually made me cry - such a tragic but gripping tale.
    Also, I don't know whether you deliberately skirted around the point (understandably so), but I don't think you gave enough credence to the reason for Niënor's reason to take her life. From the book: "[...] and with his death [Glaurung] the veil of his malice fell from her, and all her memory grew clearer before her, [...] neither did she forget any of those things that had befallen her since she lay on Haudh-en-Elleth. And her whole body shook with horror and anguish.[...] Then suddenly Niënor started to her feet, and stood pale as a wraith in the moon , and looked down on Túrin, and cried: 'Farewell, O twice beloved! A Túrin Turamabar turún ambartanen: master of doom by doom mastered! O happy to be dead!' Then distraught with woe and the horror that had overtaken her she fled wildly from that place; and Brandir stumbled after her, crying: 'Wait! Wait, Níniel!' One moment she paused, looking back with staring eyes. 'Wait?' she cried. 'Wait? That was ever your counsel. Would that I had heeded! But now it is too late.'"
    Yes, she believes Túrin is dead, but to me this reads like the overwhelming source of her anguish is the realization that she caries her brother's child - the fruit of a cursed love that she can no longer bear. Had she not learned of this, and only that Túrin was dead, it is not necessarily the case that she would have taken her own life - i.e. 'would that she had heeded' so as not to learn of this.

    • @Omnilatent
      @Omnilatent 2 года назад +4

      Absolutely agree. Just read that story and part this week and felt the same way.

  • @MrPiestro
    @MrPiestro 2 года назад +51

    My favorite Tolkien character! Such a tragic character. He could have lived and thrived with King Thingol. Could possibly have been one of the few Men to marry an elf (Finduilas). He was also seconds from meeting his cousin Tuor at the pools of Ivrin and may have done great good if they combined strength. He was one of the tallest and most feared men in Tolkien history. He was able to slay Glaurung single handedly.
    His pride and always feeling he was being slighted was his downfall.
    There was not a better friendship between Elf and Man than him and Beleg. I would love to see the Children of Hurin made into a series.

  • @bedlaskybedla6361
    @bedlaskybedla6361 2 года назад +144

    Childern of Húrin is amazing story. It have such a depth a strong characters. This story really helped me to understand history of the first age. Túrin is rash in decisions, but I like that he have a good heart, which is much more important. I also like an idea that he kill Melkor with Gurthang in Dagor dagorath.

    • @MrPiestro
      @MrPiestro 2 года назад +17

      Loved to see him finally get revenge for his family after what Morgoth did to them.

    • @steffanyschwartz7801
      @steffanyschwartz7801 2 года назад

      If someone ever makes a Dagor Dagorath story, I hope that they have Turin kills him

  • @phatchick691
    @phatchick691 Год назад +13

    Túrin: "Hail Gurthang! No lord or loyalty dost thou know, save the hand that wieldeth thee. From no blood wilt thou shrink. Wilt thou therefore take Túrin Turambar, wilt thou slay me swiftly?"
    Gurthang: "Yea, I will drink thy blood gladly, that so I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and the blood of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly."
    The sword answering his will to die was probably the best closing to his tragedy.

  • @stargirlloves
    @stargirlloves 2 года назад +18

    I am all for the happy-ever-after and star-crossed-lovers-but-in-the-end-love-conquers-all stories... but still, Children of Hurin is one of my favorite stories. It's just so tragically beautiful. Nienor Niniel's line at Turin's death: "Farewell oh twice beloved...." will forever make me weep.

  • @jimpemberton
    @jimpemberton 2 года назад +55

    Honestly, if anyone were going to make a TV series, I'd like to see the stories of Tuor and Turin. Aside from Beren and Luthien, and the early treachery of the Noldor, these cousins are central to understanding the First Age.

  • @richardminchin5415
    @richardminchin5415 2 года назад +15

    And also the dramatic irony of his marriage to his sister. You structured the vid to deal with that really well.

  • @bartekwesoowski1113
    @bartekwesoowski1113 2 года назад +38

    I remember reading the Children of Húrin, Túrin’s life was one of the most tragic in all of Arda, Húrin’s life was no better though, imprisoned on the spikes of Thangorodrim and having to watch how helplessly the misfortunes of his children, then after being released, he goes to the mountains where Gondolin was but is denied and in anger he says ‘remember the Fen of Serech’ causing to reveal the location of Gondolin to Morgoth, unintentionally of course, a true tragedy this story is. Let us hope that through the Gift of Men, Húrin’s family are now together and finally in happiness instead of despair

  • @petarvugdelic3600
    @petarvugdelic3600 Год назад +19

    I don't know if you will ever read this comment but I have to say I got chills all over my body from this clip and you explaining the story. Whats most important is you are even by just explaining the story doing justice to it with background music, voiceovers and video editing all together. Well done, truly you are one of a kind and to me this is the best yt channel ever.

  • @dtice69
    @dtice69 2 года назад +45

    My favorite character in all of his works. An excellent tragic character and story that doesn't hold back anything. He, his father, his uncle and his cousin were the best of men in the first age in my opinion. And their blood flows in Aragorn, but thankfully with none of the curses.

  • @LusiaEyre
    @LusiaEyre 2 года назад +191

    I am surprised that Amazon didn't go for this for their show. It's like LOTR meets GOT and you can justify bare ass

    • @olis5233
      @olis5233 2 года назад +8

      I agree, I think it would be great as a 3+ hour film though, also I don't think the Tolkien estate were happy with selling the rights to the First Age stories.

    • @ismailcanozdemir348
      @ismailcanozdemir348 2 года назад +17

      I think that era has too many fantastic elements for an adaptation.
      Balrogs, dragons, werevolwes, flying ships, gods… They can’t do justice these things in live action.
      Maybe we will see an animation after rohan animation.

    • @olis5233
      @olis5233 2 года назад +15

      @@ismailcanozdemir348 They can absolutely do CGI for these fantastical beasts, technology has come far enough, they would just need a Marvel movie sized budget.

    • @eelboy3098
      @eelboy3098 2 года назад +2

      @@ismailcanozdemir348 just the children of Húrin is good for a movie. No need to show gods, the only real issue is Glaurung

    • @Velosirraton
      @Velosirraton 2 года назад +3

      @@eelboy3098 Glaurung would be easy to make, They already made Smaug and to be honest it was one of the few good things about The Hobbit movies.

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike4150 2 года назад +16

    The story of Turin is one of the most amazing plot lines in all of Tolkien's works. Tolkien was a pure genius.

  • @jamescallaghan270
    @jamescallaghan270 2 года назад +28

    My favorite Tolkien character by my favorite Tolkien RUclipsr.

  • @ThatElephantSeal
    @ThatElephantSeal Год назад +4

    I feel as though too many people call Turin unlucky or tragic without taking into account that despite the shadow over his thoughts that guided him to bad actions, he himself was often responsible for his own misadventure.
    There are several points of dialogue in the book that give an impression of a very energetic, aggressive, and prideful man. What makes Turin heroic is his noble nature and his will to do good and fight evil, but his pride and his quickness to anger ends up being his doom. When the messengers tell him that he must heed the Valar and tear down the bridge at Nargothrond his response is nothing short of insulting and arrogant. And not even barely a month after Nargothrond is burned to the ground he rashly kills the Easterlings at Broddas house, causing many deaths and for his kinsfolk in the region to be further oppressed. He does not seem to learn his lesson on humility and honestly its probably one of Tolkiens darkest works in terms of how far a great and noble man can fall due to pride and anger.
    Also major shout out to Andróg, most under-appreciated character in the book, mans had a massive redemption arc and no one ever seems to mention him. Starts out as probably the most dislikable bandit but ends a hero and friend.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 2 года назад +13

    Good job at conveying how creepy Morgoth actually was. That picture with his eyes looking out for the shadows 👍

  • @teddischman4358
    @teddischman4358 2 года назад +8

    Just finished The Silmarillion YESTERDAY and was looking for a video on Turin to help follow along. And today the video shows up. Freaky-deaky lmao

  • @TheMarcHicks
    @TheMarcHicks 2 года назад +21

    Whenever I feel things are getting bad in my life, I just think of Turin & realise just how fortunate I actually am! Man, that guy could never catch a break!

    • @justanothervoice2538
      @justanothervoice2538 2 года назад +5

      Doesn’t help when you instinctively kill someone every time you get upset for any reason.

  • @holymolythejabroni9040
    @holymolythejabroni9040 2 года назад +65

    The story of the children of Hurin is like a classic Greek tragedy. And I love the idea of Turin being the one to kill Morgoth at the end of days.
    On another note, I understand why Tolkien waffled on Gil-Galad’s lineage. If Gil-Galad is Fingon’s son, as originally written, the High Kingship should have passed to Gil-Galad instead of Turgon after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Moreover, considering Gil-Galad’s deeds in the SA, it makes more sense thematically to hail from the house of Finarfin instead of the house of Fingolfin.

    • @bedlaskybedla6361
      @bedlaskybedla6361 2 года назад +2

      But Turgon have living descendents. After his death should kingship pass to Idril. And then to Earendil and finally to Elrond. Why should be Gil-Galad the high king in this case? It makes more sense that Gil-Galad is high king because he is a son of Fingon (so he is the oldest living descendent of Fingolfin). Kingship could pass to oldest living descendent and not in straight bloodline. Another point is - why would Orodreth sent Gil-Galad to Círdan in Falas? Nargothrond was safe and hidden. If Gil-Galad woulde be Fingon's son it makes more sense, because Hithlum was in neighborhood of Angband, so it was in great danger. Fingon tried to protect his son by sending him away.

    • @holymolythejabroni9040
      @holymolythejabroni9040 2 года назад +4

      @@bedlaskybedla6361 Yeah it’s a bit of a knot, which is why Tolkien changed his mind several times on Gil-Galad’s parentage. But do keep in mind that the Noldor adhered to pretty strict traditional primogeniture. The only reason the high kingship passed to Fingolfin after Feanor was to mend the divide between their houses (helped in part by Fingon’s rescue of Madhros). So by their own tradition, it doesn’t make sense to pass from Fingon to Turgon if Fingon has a living son. I believe that’s one of the reasons Tolkien waffled on Gil-Galad’s lineage. The way it was originally written, the high kingship should have passed directly from Fingon to Gil-Galad after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad and skipped Turgon altogether.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne 2 года назад +7

      It's inspired by the classic Finnish tragedy, the tale of Kullervo son of Kalervo from Kalevala!

    • @untruelie2640
      @untruelie2640 2 года назад +8

      @@holymolythejabroni9040 As far as I know, Eirenion/Gil-Galad was still quite young when his father (Fingon in the published version) died. He had been send to Círdan at Balar too, so he couldn't really become the effective High King. It's not an unusual thing that in times of crisis, a powerful and able uncle becomes ruler instead of his underaged nephew.
      I think it makes perfect sense: Gil-Galad is the rightful High King, but isn't able to rule effectively, so Turgon takes over (being the last powerful Prince of the Noldor). After the destruction of Gondolin, the High Kingship is more or less vacant until Gil-Galad takes over at the beginning of the Second Age. After his death, both the House of Fingolfin and the House of Féanor (last known member: Celebrimbor) are at an end and since both Finarfin and Finrod live in Aman, the last fully "royal" Noldor is Galadriel.

    • @juniusluriuscatalus6606
      @juniusluriuscatalus6606 2 года назад +2

      Like mentioned, it is very much inspired by fennic tradition - though probably not as old as greek stories and if so, it might be inspired in some way by the greek storytelling or have same origin. Tolkien however credited quite clearly where his inspiration came from.

  • @Tilnaor
    @Tilnaor 2 года назад +88

    When I read the Silmarillion back in time, I almost forgot all of the stories due the immense volume of time, place and caharcters. Only two remaind in lon term: the story of Beren&Lúthien and Túrin Turambar.
    In fact a lot of other storylines become clear to me by your map guided videos wich I binge watched the last few days. So concratulations for the 100th and you got a new subscriber (who still awaits for the 3rd age map explamation)

  • @astrotter
    @astrotter 2 года назад +10

    Fantastic tale, but it's so unrelentingly tragic I sometimes have to skip it on my re-reads just for my own mental health.

  • @booboo8577
    @booboo8577 2 года назад +7

    One of the best things you'll ever hear is The Children Of Hurin on audiobook read by none other than Christopher Lee. It's truly a work of love.

  • @therambler8721
    @therambler8721 2 года назад +8

    Turin has become a recent favourite of mine of late, and his story is both amazing and tragic. Here is this brave, skillful young man who only wants to fight against evil. He's an amazing warrior who turns a band of outlaws into heroes, and his helmet alone is enough to strike fear into the hearts of Orcs. If it wasn't for Morgoth's curse and Turin's own arrogance, (of which I have no doubt both played a part in his tragedies, feeding off of and powering each other) Turin could have probably become the Aragon of his time, though more a warrior than a healer King.

  • @einoeliaskranat4301
    @einoeliaskranat4301 2 года назад +3

    You forgot the conversation with the sword. Unique event in Tolkien lore.

  • @maizee369
    @maizee369 2 года назад +17

    The audiobook by Sir Christopher Lee (Rip) is amazing as he was a fan himself

    • @willyreeves319
      @willyreeves319 2 года назад +2

      i heard that when the casting people called Christopher Lee about a role in the Peter Jackson movies he said yes before knowing which part or what the pay was, he just wanted to be part of it.

  • @marionbaggins
    @marionbaggins 2 года назад +12

    One of the greatest Tragedies of Middle Earth...The Silmarillion has most of these, It's heartbreaking!

  • @tunguskalumberjack9987
    @tunguskalumberjack9987 2 года назад +9

    Turin’s tale in The Silmarillion was always my favorite part of that book, and I’ve read it countless times since 1986. I have not read the “new” book version of “The Children Of Húrin”, but if it’s where all of this extra detail and lore is from, it looks like I’ve found my next book purchase! Thanks for another great video-

  • @frodobaggins445
    @frodobaggins445 2 года назад +8

    The Children of Húrin is by far my favorite story of the First Adge, and Túrin my favorite character in the Silmarillion and one of my favorites of all.

  • @lordheklsmosh9490
    @lordheklsmosh9490 2 года назад +40

    If you think about it Orodreth and his family have had the most lore changes by Tolkien.

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne 2 года назад +1

      Galadriel and Celeborn, too

    • @lordheklsmosh9490
      @lordheklsmosh9490 2 года назад +2

      @@AnnaMarianne but celeborn had only 1 Change compared to orodreths familys 3

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne 2 года назад +1

      @@lordheklsmosh9490 Celeborn was initially a Nandor elf whose native land was Lórien, then he became a Sindarin elf from Doriath, and in the final draft he became a Teleri elf from Alqualondë. So Galadriel was first supposed to have met Celeborn in Lórien in the Second Age, then she was supposed to have met him in Doriath in the First Age, and finally she was supposed to be his cousin and have married him already in Valinor. Galadriel also went from travelling from Valinor to Beleriand through Helcaraxë to sailing from Valinor to Beleriand independently with Celeborn, and being the first Elf of Valinor to come to Middle-earth, just before Fëanor. Those are some really drastic changes.

  • @richardwild76
    @richardwild76 Год назад +3

    Yeah, the story of Túrin is no barrel of laughs, but the scene where Túrin in his last despair speaks to his sword, asking if it will take his life, and the sword answers him, agreeing to slay him, that is just spine tingling.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 2 года назад +3

    I had to listen to the audiobook twice to really understand his story, but he's probably the greatest hero that Tolkein has ever written. He's got the coolest sword ever, an awesome family history, tragedy, glory and nearly everything else that makes a classic hero archetype.

  • @cantbetamed2210
    @cantbetamed2210 2 года назад +6

    I dunno about you lot but Turin and Beleg's bromance set off something in my heart. I legit cried when Beleg died. It's either the greatest friendship I've read before Legolas and Gimli, or the romance that never was (not that I was expecting it. I just came to that conclusion on my third reread. Like an epiphany and one day you're just like; they could work.)
    My brain worked differently than when I was 12. (When I first read it.)

    • @UnseenHitman-1932
      @UnseenHitman-1932 25 дней назад

      Any kind of same gender romance is against Tolkien's true intention as due to religious reasons,he believes it's one of the worst sins to commit.

  • @Scott_34
    @Scott_34 2 года назад +15

    The Children of Hurin is one of my absolute favorite books too!
    Edit: dang! I was tearing up by the end. Beautiful job!

    • @damon2550
      @damon2550 2 года назад +4

      I just cried. It always makes me happy the Tolkien was a Christian. Jesus is the Real Hero but God truly blessed Tolkien with the gift of Storytelling!

  • @jeffagain7516
    @jeffagain7516 2 года назад +3

    JRR wrote so many incomparable compartmentalized stories within the over-arching narrative. Of them all, I've always had special love for the "Fall Of Gondolin" however the "Children Of Hurin" and "Beren and Luthien" are of equal stature. I feel so very privileged to own such stories and be able to read them at my leisure. Without a doubt, some of the greatest stories ever written, by anyone, at any time. Thank-you for giving this one, the stature and renown it so richly deserves.
    Dammit, I'm tearing up even writing this...

  • @emmaspencer4586
    @emmaspencer4586 2 года назад +21

    As tragic as Turin's story is-and indeed all of his family-him being the one destined to kill Morgoth in Dagor Dagorath, not only avenging himself and his kin, but all of Arda, gives me a glimmer of hope for Turin. His story's not done yet. And when he returns,, it'll be a far happier ending for the Children of Hurin.

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 7 месяцев назад +1

      Well... Tolkien went back and forth on whether he liked that idea.

  • @orrointhewise3913
    @orrointhewise3913 2 года назад +6

    Ooofff the great Greek tragedy of Tolkien lore 😭
    Congrats on the great milestones:)

  • @EmblemParade
    @EmblemParade 2 года назад +7

    I love the artwork for the Dragon-helm as it seems to capture so much of its legacy and fate. In spite of all that happened it crowns its wearer in grandeur and valor. Relentless even until the end of time.

  • @simoncooper6752
    @simoncooper6752 2 года назад +17

    I recently finished reading the Children of Húrin, and even though I've now read all 3 versions of it, the tragedy of it still gets me every time. Great work as always.

  • @conangibbs
    @conangibbs 2 года назад +42

    One of the videos I was looking forward to the most, and you didn’t disappoint. Very well done!
    Everyone likes a happy ending, but sometimes the stories that don’t end happily ever after are the ones that resonate the most. This story always reminds me of why I love Tolkien’s world so much.
    Thank you!

    • @quaffdowngin
      @quaffdowngin 2 года назад +1

      One of the reasons a movie like The Wrath of Khan is such a classic. True loss twangs the heartstrings

  • @michaelfisher7170
    @michaelfisher7170 2 года назад +2

    Turin broke my heart the first time I read the Silmarillion when I was 15...but then so did Beren, Luthien, Thingol, Melian, Finrod...oh crap the whole damn story broke my heart.

  • @PeterJUren
    @PeterJUren 2 года назад +4

    The Children of Hurin would have to be the saddest story of all time. I had tears in my eyes when I had finished.

  • @dialaskisel5929
    @dialaskisel5929 2 года назад +48

    Me: Ah, I'm ready for some uplifting Lord of the Rings to lighten my mood.
    Turin: **Exists**
    Me: **bawling my eyes out**

  • @victormeunier9075
    @victormeunier9075 Год назад +4

    The children of Hurin gets me every time. What a masterpiece.

  • @justanothervoice2538
    @justanothervoice2538 2 года назад +9

    The Great Tales, and The Children of Hurin in particular, would make such great series! That’s what Amazon should have done, a three-season show with one season on each of the Great Tales of the First Age. I would be so much more pumped for that than for what appears to be complete fan-fiction in what we’ll be getting.

    • @tokahuke
      @tokahuke Год назад +2

      Thank goodness those fowl creatures could not lay their claws on this source material. All you would get is a gender-swapped Túrin marry sue bore you to death showing a gender non-conformant Orodreth who is the boss for a full hour episode. Now, you can finally see the Show of a Thousand Snores for yourself!

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw 2 года назад +7

    I love this tale, the most memorable of all the Silmarillion.
    Now this would make a great movie. Hope they don't swap the roles of Turin and Nienor.

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX 2 года назад +23

    The story of Túrin is indeed one of the most tragic of all the tales in the legendarium. As this poor sap keeps making mistake after mistake, it damn near broke my heart. Granted he was in particular very arrogant, but many of the things that happened often just boiled down to bad luck and/or simply being set up to fail in some instances. In particular, Glaurung wiping Nienor's mind was pretty devious. I can't remember if it was implied that he was prescient and knew that Túrin would eventually fall in love with his sister or not. But whatever the case, that was particularly soul crushing and her suicide was the last straw for the poor old mental sot.
    It should be mentioned that Túrin being spotted by the hidden duo of Tuor and Voronwë as he swiftly marched by them through the woods near the pools of Ivrin was something that Tolkien said just appeared in his mind at one point as if it was something that was _meant_ to happen. (Christopher Tolkien discusses how Tuor "walked out of the woods" in his father's mind when he was writing Tuor's tale.) Such powerful men who's lives were wrapped in tragedy just happening to come into such close proximity, yet not speaking with one another; with one on a mission of revenge/rescue and the other on a mission of warning. Tuor, although surrounded by tragedy finds success in almost everything he does, while Túrin is the opposite. While Tuor and Voronwë were focused and aware, Túrin had the "thousand yard stare" tunnel vision of a man hurt to the point where he could only see what was right in front of him. There's an excellent Venn diagram of the two men in an askmiddlearth.tumblr post titled "Túrin: Fate vs Free Will" (the entire post is interesting, as well). You shouldn't have a problem googling it. (I generally avoid posting URLs in RUclips comments since many channel owners have things set up to hold posts for review that include them.)
    At any rate, GREAT VIDEO, sir! You do such excellent research and your presentation (especially the voices!) is wonderful!

    • @KS-xk2so
      @KS-xk2so Год назад +2

      Morgoth cursed Hurin's children. No matter the choices Turin made in life, they would always end up in misery and despair. By contrast Tuor was favoured by the gods. He gets one of the few happy endings in the First Age. That moment at the pools of Ivrin is very "there but for the grace of god go I" for me.

    • @quinndiaz5727
      @quinndiaz5727 5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for recommending that post! Cool read. This should have more upvotes

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@quinndiaz5727 Most welcome! 😀

  • @ihmehiitaja
    @ihmehiitaja 2 года назад +12

    If you liked Túrin Turambar's story, you might also like the story of Kullervo, the origin for Turambar's story. J. R. R. Tolkien also wrote his own version of Kullervo from 1914 to 1915, The Story of Kullervo, his first time writing prose.

    • @ilokivi
      @ilokivi Год назад

      There is also Jean Sibelius' orchestral work Kullervo, which in its third section has sung his encounter with his sister and its aftermath.

  • @benjaminbjrklund743
    @benjaminbjrklund743 Год назад +1

    my favourite character from tolkien. remember getting the book whille being at a lotr camp outside of oslo. me in my tent reading while all the others were listening to Ted Nasmith singing. couldnt stop reading. Luckily he had another concert later on. And the next day he draw me a sketch of Turin, which is hanging in my office this day.

    • @theredqueen2283
      @theredqueen2283 Год назад

      Its even cooler Turin is prophesised to be the one who returns and slays morgoth

  • @PorkotylerClips
    @PorkotylerClips 2 года назад +70

    Jaime Lannister after watching Turin take his own life:
    That's an overreaction...

    • @ottarbirkeland239
      @ottarbirkeland239 2 года назад +6

      Jamie just wished that he could marry his sister. And dreams of being able to slay a dragon. But how many friends must he slay before it adds up to a "best friend"?

  • @rubenlopez7142
    @rubenlopez7142 Год назад +4

    The Children of Hurin is one of my favorite books along with the Silmarillion!

  • @tomaszbudziszewski9201
    @tomaszbudziszewski9201 3 месяца назад

    I read this years ago and, again, tears appeared in my eyes as I was listening you.

  • @JacquesHsu
    @JacquesHsu 2 года назад +7

    I could watch this video over and over again, though it makes me heartbroken 💔.
    Thanks for the great work, and excellent storytelling. 👍

  • @pippomaneful
    @pippomaneful 2 года назад +3

    I literally never cry with any piece of fiction, but damn this story is so beautiful I weep every time I hear it. I consider it to be Tolkien's ultimate masterpiece.

  • @NatsuFireDragon
    @NatsuFireDragon 2 года назад +7

    I WOULD BUY ALL TOLKIEN'S AUDO BOOKS IF THEY WERE READ BY YOU

  • @angrypotato_fz
    @angrypotato_fz 2 года назад +7

    Great video!
    This is a truly devastating story of hopeless sadness. I wonder if anyone will be eager to turn it into a depressing movie or series some day, with no happy end (I'm not sure if I'd want it to be done).
    It would be very fitting to have Turin redeemed by being the last slayer of Morgoth.

  • @formerastronaut
    @formerastronaut 2 года назад +7

    Glaurung's firey breath may be deadly, but damn his taunts are pretty hurtful too.

    • @Eowyn3Pride
      @Eowyn3Pride 2 года назад

      His taunts were spells...BEWARE THE EYES OF A DRAGON!!!😳☠

  • @estel-randir
    @estel-randir 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think Tolkien's true stroke of mastery in Turin's tale is in the juxtaposition of the knowledge that a) The Gift of Iluvatar reigns supreme: no vala, elf, dwarf, or maia; no bond or iron or curse of hell can gainsay it. and b) on the Dagor Dagorath, Turin shall give Melkor his final death. Not the Vicegerent of Arda, not the Doomsman of the Valar, not even the feisty Noldo who's been brewing in Mandos about his pretty rocks for millennia. Thus shall the Children of Hurin and all men be avenged. It's just so beautiful.

  • @isaiahclark2924
    @isaiahclark2924 2 года назад +2

    Just finished listening to the audiobook and lord this story was just a roller coaster. Amazing on all counts, but really sad.

  • @florisv559
    @florisv559 2 месяца назад +1

    Eru Iluvatar: Okay, that was tough, but hey, Melkor, this still only contributes to my greater glory.

  • @bigjim2313
    @bigjim2313 2 года назад +1

    Great work! Turin Turambar is a my favourite Tolkien character and Gurthang ("Yea, I will drink thy blood gladly"...) is my favourite talking sword!

  • @nickcalxcii
    @nickcalxcii Год назад +2

    Your voice acting is actually top notch

  • @moatazabdel-hamid1498
    @moatazabdel-hamid1498 2 года назад +1

    From Egypt with love, I can't get enough of your channel, Amazing.

  • @leinardesteves3987
    @leinardesteves3987 2 года назад +4

    I wish you'd read to me Silmarillion with your style of editing and narration. It's so clear, no fancy words yet it still sounds fantastic and epic. I'd pay for an audiobook or a video of you doing so!

  • @solaawodiya7360
    @solaawodiya7360 Год назад +1

    Damn!! This story is so deep 😢. I think this is another franchise that needs to be reflected on TV.

  • @Instagramlessgreg247
    @Instagramlessgreg247 Год назад +1

    There is a reason I always make sure to have this book on my shelf ready to read. My favorite book I have read by Tolkien.

  • @Blong243
    @Blong243 2 года назад +2

    Good job, not many want to tackle this subject with its darker nature but it's just as important as the rest of it. I've recently listened to this tale and its helpful to see it take place as well.

  • @tolkienfan328
    @tolkienfan328 2 года назад +8

    WoW! What an incredible video. The CoH is my favorite Tolkien story bar none. I re-read it (listen to the audio book) every year. I love how you rearranged the story so that we found out who Nienor was exactly when She and Turin did. Excellent work my friend. You earned my sub, comment, and like!!!

  • @TheBenzooh
    @TheBenzooh 2 года назад +1

    i love the story of turin turambar. it moved me deeply while i read the silmarilion. i walked from the bus home while reading at the same time. i almost walked into a tree

  • @lionofthemorning7997
    @lionofthemorning7997 2 года назад +3

    This is my favorite story that Tolkien, almost, finished. We get a glimpse into the intricacies of what the grand overview of the eons that the Silmarillion only hint at. Tragic, yes. Yet in the final battle Turin gets to drive that black blade, that witnessed & was used for so much evil, into the heart of the originator of that evil. Poetic Karma.

  • @JoseyStranded
    @JoseyStranded 6 месяцев назад

    Túrin has been my favorite character by Tolkien since I first read Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales as a teenager in the late eighties. I am now 50 and I have a daughter named Melian.

  • @JerrBear1974
    @JerrBear1974 2 года назад +5

    What a great video. A tragic story, very similar to that of Oedipus.

    • @tokahuke
      @tokahuke Год назад

      Kullervo!! Don't forget Kullervo!

  • @theLore-Master
    @theLore-Master 2 года назад +2

    Turin: Tortured soul, Lord of Himself, and Slayer of Glaurung (in single combat). Ranks way up there and one of the best story sub-narratives anywhere in Sil/LOTR lore. One of the great heros of ME for sure...top 10.

  • @misaelfraga8196
    @misaelfraga8196 2 года назад +2

    This video puts alot into perspective. Thanks.

  • @KeepExpanding
    @KeepExpanding Год назад +3

    Fantastic resumed version of one of the most tragic and heart-breaking stories of Middle Earth. You are a true fan my friend, wonderful work!

  • @trevorkiser8346
    @trevorkiser8346 11 месяцев назад +1

    When I read then listened to the audio book of The Children Of Hurin the part when Turin asks his sword to slay him and it replys back always gave me chills

  • @gamerostrich5358
    @gamerostrich5358 2 года назад +3

    obsessed with these videos, thank you!

  • @TheMetalMenace
    @TheMetalMenace 2 года назад

    This was such a great video! I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love the voice overs/acting on the different characters - in all the videos!. Makes it feel all the more real :)

  • @tarentarhu5590
    @tarentarhu5590 Год назад

    Your channel is the gift that keeps on giving.

  • @JosephAlanMeador
    @JosephAlanMeador 2 года назад

    One of my favorite story arcs in the Simarillion. Great work as usual, thanks for making this.

  • @parejean-christophe8257
    @parejean-christophe8257 2 года назад +1

    I have waited a long time for this video. Glad to see it! Great content as always!

  • @Guayabaman305
    @Guayabaman305 2 года назад +1

    The Children of Hurin is my favorite Tolkien work. Which I know is saying a lot. That's how good that story is.

  • @tabletopgeneralsde310
    @tabletopgeneralsde310 2 года назад +2

    Such a sad story, but a great one as well. Thank you and congrats to this milestone and the huge growth of your channel.

  • @josejohnbernardaguilar2928
    @josejohnbernardaguilar2928 2 года назад

    I love your videos. You add the perfect music and your narration is absolutely the best.

  • @richardminchin5415
    @richardminchin5415 2 года назад +3

    Damn dude! Were you holding out on Turin until you'd done 100 vids! Extraordinary restraint. And wow man - you deal with this heartbreaking tale with the solemnity and gravity it deserves. Again - a triumph.

  • @bieuxyongson
    @bieuxyongson 2 года назад

    Oh my....That was just truly heartbreaking. What a tangled web. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this tale from Tolkien.

  • @rtleitao78
    @rtleitao78 2 года назад

    Just found your channel the other day. Your videos are great. Informative, focused. Great quality. Congratulations.
    I haven't been a Tolkien need for many years now, and this is a great throwback to my nerdy youth.

  • @freddaniel5099
    @freddaniel5099 2 года назад +2

    Congratulations on 100! It's been an awesome journey. Here's looking forward to the next 100!
    Thanks!