Ep 14 Osterholm Update COVID-19: Viral Gravity
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- In this episode, Dr. Osterholm and host Chris Dall discuss surging cases in the United States, the challenge of testing and tracing in hot spots, hugging in the midst of a pandemic, and news about a swine flu strain with pandemic potential.
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Email us your questions: OsterholmUpdate@umn.edu
Wish I could like this podcast more than once.
This is the most important episode of any COVID-19 podcast I have listened to so far.
Thank you very much Mister Osterholm for sharing your knowledge with people around the world! I live in Switzerland where cases are rising again, not surprising to me at all because i already have learned so much about the virus thanks to you! I will continue listening to your updates, they help me navigate through these crazy times. Greetings from Switzerland
Thank you all at CIDRAP, and Michael, for keeping knowledge and wisdom flowing our way! I have been tuning in to your podcasts from late March...and I feel proud to be a part of the "Osterholm-community"! Your words and wisdoms helps me navigate our situation here in Sweden! Please take care and keep up your good work...we are all humans on this flyin' rock, in the black emptiness, and we need to take care of each other!
Everyone should have a Nan. Thank you to you and all you colleagues Michael. From Ireland.🍀
I greatly appreciate these weekly doses of sanity. Thank you so much. What can a Python programmer do to help? Any data that requires crunching?
This should be required listening to EVERY SINGLE journalist,/talking head/pundit and politician.
I didn’t know he had a podcast! I would have listened from the start!
The spring flows eternal. My heart felt gratitude.
This is what real leadership looks like.
Thank you Dr Osterholm for delivering facts and actionable items in a calm, transparent way. You have the ability to convey stark and potentially depressing messages in a way that is also empowering and uplifting. You are a brilliant mind but it’s your humility, vulnerability, and grace that set you apart. This country needs to hear more from you
Wednesday is my favorite day of the week because of you, Dr. Osterholm! Thank you for the updates. I spread your facts, thoughts and recommendations to my colleagues at the hospital, my family and my friends. You’re my hero!
A wonderful human being. so knowledgeable yet so incredibly
humble
First listener! Greetings from Sydney, Australia, Dr Osterholm and Mr Dall. 🇺🇳🇦🇺🇳🇿🇵🇬🇫🇯
This is the only honest transparent non-political sobering voice out there in a sea of lies and propaganda.
check out medcram too
Would you say it's really the only non-political voice?
How did we thread the line between a healthcare collapse and an economic collapse? Whome industries from tourism to hospitality are crumbling. We can't afford to let that happen, yet those industries can't survive with current social distance restrictions. It feels like a Catch22
A beautiful man in every way.......thank you.
"As I grow old, I get more and more vulnerable to learning", I hope I got this quote right :)
THANK YOU Doctor O, Chris Dall and thank you to the team that creates/posts these very informative videos. Knowledge is Power.
Thank you for sharing all your wisdom and clear thoughts. First time I heard you was at Joe Rogan Experience, in the beginning of March. Since then I´ve followed you on this CIDRAP Podcast. You and your team are working very hard and I greatly appreciate these weekly podcasts. Your word and explanation help me to understand and navigate the situation in my country, Sweden. Again, thank you and a big Distance Hug!
Smart, honest talk about covid. Heartfelt and moving. Thank you.
Thank you from the front lines.
G.F. - M.D.
Ty for your service.
I love this podcast ...truth without politics...facts... data
Thank you
Dr Osterholm
While those podcasts are one of the best sources on COVID situation, always think critically. No one is 100% right 100% of the time, which Dr Osterholm admits himself every single time.
Last week he said there's no credible evidence that flu vaccination increases the chance of getting infected with Coronaviridae, which is not true, since there is at least one peer-reviewd study showing otherwise. Of course one can argue how applicable it is to SARS-CoV-2, but to state that there's NO evidence is incorrect.
In this episode he advises healthy 30 year old person to not meet his friends who are also wearing masks. It's like saying he shouldn't ever see anyone, because other infections also cause death of healthy young people on rare occasions, or to avoid any transportation, because traffic accidents happen. Is there a chance that he could contracted a virus, while him and his friends were wearing masks, develop COVID with a severity so high that he would die? Yes. Is the chance of it happening anywhere near the level to warrant staying socially isolated indefinitely? Absolutely not. I'd argue that instilling this level of fear and anxiety in people is much more likely to cause health problems than chance of contracting the virus, especially with a development of a disease and to the level which might impacts his health long term.
No one is infallible.
The new Henry Ford Medical Center study results have been published. Very interesting.
Funny how hydroxychloroquine works if u dont quadruple the dose and leave zinc out. I am just glad dexamethasone didnt suffer the same fate
Time for the goat! 🐐🐐🐐
Distance, distance, distance. Many schools are NOT going to enact any distancing because they can't afford it. Michigan is not mandating any reduction in bus capacity or classrooms. They are failing at your most basic instruction. We keep saying open the schools but we will force 70 kids on a bus and 30 kids into a classroom and then hope for the best.
It's incredibly difficult to enact any meaningful distancing in school. With the size of the average classroom, you'd struggle to fit ten students in with the 6 feet rule. Schools would then require staggered days, and on the days the students are not in school, who will supervise them when creches would have to reduce capacity too? More importantly, in kindergarten or autism units, distancing is virtually impossible given the challenging behaviour. None of this is being discussed at all.
Coved-19 , H1N1, and influenza ? What a year . Great Podcast as usual . Please stay safe . No happy hour sir . 😉
Amazing podcast, but may I please request a slight bump in the volume? I don't always have the freedom to listen to this with an earphone of some kind.
While cacoonning the old generation, they can improve their physical, mental health during those months, like group exercising, promoting good nutrition, so many things it can be program for these well respected, hard worked old generation, they do deserve it!
How can they do group exercising if theyre cocooning?
President and Governors need to be advised by Dr. Osterholm 🙏
Thank you so much for your podcast and honest science based information. I only wish more people listened to get better educated on this. At the end you mentioned a book to read but I didn’t get the name did anyone catch what it was? Thanks for reminder to be Kind (sad that we have to be reminded of that during this difficult time in our life). Thanks again for all you do.
What about a set of people who volunteer to go into quarantine. For example, I am healthy but older and retired. I would be willing to continue to quarantine and I think others in similar situations might be too.
Suggestion - time stamps in description
So are cloth and surgical masks really helping?
Right... he did a video just las month and said that masks(unless it's a N95) aren't the protection we think it is.
This has been the only consistent and compassionate and highly informative program/platform that I have found - and I have looked a lot! Thank you Dr.Osterholm for your hard work, and steadfast communication. What shocks me is that number of views (441 as of today) - where are the other 330,000,559 people that could listen to this?!? I find that data very sad indeed. For those of you who are, and who continue to listen to these broadcasts, encourage your family and friends to do the same. We deserve, and we need what is being offered here. Thank you again for posting and sharing this with us.
I just sent the link to my sons and to one of my sisters-in-law. Also to my Facebook friends.
How do I submit a question?
Have we ever achieved herd immunity from other common corona viruses? Have we ever come up with a vaccine for them?
Thanks Dr. Osterholm!
We need good news, Michael!
Hey professor, good to be with you again
So when are clonals deployed
It’s absolutely unfathomable how it’s possible that the greatest economy on this planet isn’t able to provide its HCWs with cheap plastic personal protection articles.
We have a few N95 masks from my husband's construction job. I hope these things actually protect us as we are over 60.
J Denino I can understand your anxiety, we are 60 and 61 years old and my husband has heart problems. The N95 masks are a good protection. You can reuse them a couple of times if you sterilize them in your oven at 80 degrees celsius for half an hour. We have been obliged to wear masks in shops and other public indoor spaces since March. (We live in Germany.) Masks really bring down the infection rates. I wonder why some governments don’t make them mandatory.
In Congress in the past few days both Dems & GOP, came together to vote for endless war -- proclaiming that 19 years in Afghanistan at $50 billion a month, was not enough and we had to stay. And in a separate bill they almost unanimously voted a $750 billion military budget that presumably includes a "Space Force." Moreover, they passed with no dissenting vote, a $5 trillion "stimulus package" that granted billions upon billions of $$ on profitable companies, no strings attached, gave a $1.72 million tax cut to high earners and gave the average American a one-time $1200 check. The US government is rich beyond measure and it showers favors & dollars on all the many campaign contributers. Joe Biden has over 100 billionaires supporting his campaign -- many from the health industry and low and behold he vows to keep for-profit health insurance and to veto what the entire industrialized world gives its citizens, free health care. So no it is not "unfathomable." What is staggering is how the average American is not informed about their government ignoring their needs because we have become an oligarchy. This fact not an opinion as demonstrated in a famous Princeton University Study. www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 The saddest part of it all is there is no doubt in my mind that our leaders both in the Democratic and Repubican parties have decided it costs less to let 100s of thousands of Americans die -- South Korea so far has only 300 deaths and a city of 10 million bigger than NYC w/ a fraction of those 300 deaths & PPE like space suits -- and instead of spending to control a lethal virus are distributing our tax $$$ on enriching those who fund their campaigns. It is worse than Marie Antoinette who just wanted the little people to eat cake. She didn't say, Let them die.
@Maria Maraventano The GOP & Dems just voted in a $750 BILLION military budget with Space Force funding. Billions upon billions to rain down bombs across the globe. The criminals you speak of are in gov't not the jails. Immigrants are not the reason we have a broken healthcare system ranked 157th out 195.
@@daysjours This is scandalous! And when both political parties want things to stay that way, what can American citizens do? I’m grateful that our German government handled the Covid19 crisis fairly well so far. We had some initial shortage in PPE as well, but they managed to get ahead of it. Our hospitals were well prepared and there was no scarcity in ICU beds, we even took patients in from Italy, France and Spain when their hospitals were full. But we don’t know what still lies ahead...Here in Germany we have had to wear masks in public places since March if I remember correctly, and really everybody complies. The masks have brought the case numbers down very rapidly. The masks also helped to keep flu cases down, so that’s a great thing too. I think I will keep wearing them even when the government says at some point in the future that it’s not mandatory anymore. Especially in winter when a lot of viruses are circulating.
Keep up the great work number 1 truthful info. Thank you God bless
But first, test them before entering into this cacoon "city" so, everybody is healthy. It will be very helpful mentally to know that the people they are around them are also healthy.
The asia countries have a stronger sense of social responsibility and stable politics. Don’t be led astray by the simplistic authoritarian meme. We in the USA could not feed 50 million people locked in their home. We can’t even test sufficiently. We are incompetent -not free spirits.
Btw, old folks are respected and highly valued in Asia where I have lived 6 years of my life.
He only referenced China as the authoritarian which is true. South Korea, Japan, etc aren’t authoritarians but yes they have a much stronger sense of community than us Americans. Americans are very individualistic.
Ali . It wasn’t being authoritarian that made China successful. In God we trust.. Everyone else bring data.
@@GlobalDrifter1000 China's authoritarianism brought us into this mess and allowed them to deal with it too
Pop Land . We had too months warning. Our response was incompetent. Still is.
@@GlobalDrifter1000 I agree, the Us has death with this poorly,however, if the Chinese government did more to suppress the virus instead of suppressing information about the virus, we might be in a better situation
NICE hatchet job from a hatchet man.
Data from schools is what? Goose egg
Is herd immunity even an option now? Wasn't there a study showing antibodies only last weeks to months?
From my understanding yes, I recall Osterholm discussing it in his last podcast
It was more like weeks ONLY if there were even antibodies to begin with - which symptomatic people do NOT seem to produce. 😭
We need to be looking at T-Cell immunity. Studies showing seronegative folks actually do have t-cell immunity that is long lasting. The study out of Europe shows 30% of people who got a negative antibody test actually had abundant t-cell immunity so many, many more people probably had this
@@Robin-uu6eg that sounds like good news! Did they find out T-cell immunity confers immunity to the virus? And at what level?
Some answers here:
www.bbc.com/news/health-53248660
@@Robin-uu6eg That's a bit comforting to know. Thanks
Why is this guy praising China so much?
Because he’s a dirtbag and a government stooge in it for the money.
Because their citizens actually listen to science and reason and respect their neighbors; that's how they contained the virus better than anyone. Unlike USA, where more than half the population are religious anti-science idiots who only care about themselves; that's how it's surging in America with close to a quarter million deaths and counting.
Adam Blister 1) China’s numbers are faker than the designer bags you buy on the street for a few yuan 2) 130,000 is about half of 250,000.
@@robertschrader Is it faker than the fat orange clown president's hair and tan?
@@adamblister6005 Yes. And much faker than your real stupidity, if you are willing to stan the murderous Chinese Communist Party in order to attack any US president (or any leader of a democratic country, for that matter). Shame on you.
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