Best Characters to BUILD as NEW PLAYER Honkai Star Rail
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- Wanted to put a different perspective on this than the usual since let's be honest all banner characters are broken lol. Though added thought on that if you are starting in 2.0 my personal opinion is don't pull Black Swan (not having kafka, not to say black swan isnt good w/o she is still really good just tough to justify with another non dot focused nihilty coming in Acheron could be wrong tho.), and no Dan Heng IL (he will be best comp in game with sparkle imo, but as F2P Dr. Ratio competes well. )
Also man this was a lot of talking O.O, remember as well Dr Ratio is only free til 2.1 so get on that...
Added note Misha placement is rather provisional. Mostly made assumptions off base kit. (UPDATE: Misha is way more geared toward moc, and best in single target / 2 target scenarios, a bit better than Yanqing in this regard. Also very hilarious perma freeze applications ngl)
March 7th is very workable, and March particularly I do think can have a lot of value with Wind Set perma ult freezing w/ Effect Hit Rate. Much harder character to execute consistently though.
Prob should give Yukong more credit. Rest I'm rather comfortable with in general. Also notably you will need a dps they are just in general lower value than supports.
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Just recently, a new game mode was announced for 2.3- Apocalyptic Shadow, and this game mode is expected to be the much needed boost for The Hunt path characters. Focusing on a single big boss, this is likely to really impact the value of certain single target dps characters quite a bit. Though I'd still be cautious with them cause I do view them as having some scaling issues. Though expect more out of yanqing, sushang, and even f2p mono fire comps like hook from this update. Not to mention, Ratio will be an even greater value dps as a result.
ALSO ANOTHER UPDATE Harmony Trailblazer released with penacony, and it completely alters the game. Gallagher, Xueyi, Sushang, Luka with break builds f2p all become quite a bit better. Though note Ruan Mei is insanely important with those compositions.
At least the main character in Honkai arent just "tutorial character" like its in Genshin. You can use trailblazer for a long time going through campaign
Agree tho denro traveller never left my team once it got introduced
@@somefujoshi8255 and xialing ...... and Lisa with dendro
@@Matteo-842Barbara:
@@nitroblaze6696 nhaaa i love barbara end when your account is new is a super strong heler but after a little bit of time is close to a meme
@@Matteo-842 she can still be used for cheap hyperbloom teams
Pela is definitely someone you want to build for the story in Xianzhou because she can remove the buff from the revive enemies there.
Thank you for this comment, I've only played this game for a week, and I have just started this arc yesterday.
that's why I love luocha, whenever the big guard summons the small guards I just press luocha ult and they become a joke. but yes pela in general is one of the best supports to build
Thanks, now if only I had her.
As new player you don't really get to choose, just play a character that the enemy is weak against and whack in a healer and you win everytime
the probelm with dr.ratio in pure fiction is also that he needs debuffs, stacking debuffs on 1 target that die in 1 shot anyway just hurts him
Yeah, and also what I said in the video as well- where the initial hit to proc the fua is so weak that you are never getting a ko with that hit so all your damage goes into one enemy a lot, and you're just sad. (So even with those debuff applied, like with topaz having an automatic one, it is still very difficult)
I am thinking about building up Black Swan for Pure Fiction
yep she's rather nice for it@@AnotherAyushRaj
well yeah since he's hunt path, i think he's great for bosses
That's just how hunt characters work. Dominant in MoC and bad in pure fiction, the exact opposite to erudition.
Yay! I started the game by the end of January and was looking for a video like this explaining a bit how the characters are currently working, but they were all from 9 months ago, so thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for! I'll check if there's one for the limited characters too
Don't forget to use your Trailblazer Energy up and in the Assignments I recommend setting the passive farm in the EXP Material/Credits section, all three of them
@@ZitronCrazy Thanks!!
Passive , so it happens automatically? @@ZitronCrazy
@@Samwise_genjiyes, u just need to collect the assignment 20hrs later
nice video !!! i was a day1 player but went on a REALLY long hiatus so I've only come back now and consider myself a new player, super useful video
Oh, same!
Same here !
just came back for anniversary, good luck in your pulls guys.
Same. Got back a couple days ago and I’m so behind and didn’t know who to build now lmao
@@ShadowS1LV3R If it means anything, I'm currently playing a team of March 7th, Dr Ratio, Clara and Tinguyn
I only played hsr till jing yuan banner , and i just redownload it after kafka banner, you can say im a new player too and this is a nice video, it helps me who to prioritize building first, you gained my sub mate
Thank you for the kind words! Glad it helped as well and goated pfp btw.
Remember target Kafka
Nehility team = Bloom
Harmony MC + Ruan mei + any character with high toughness DMG per attack is the new bloom. Only one limited character needed to maximise the team's mechanic Vs dot needing 2😅
Thanks man, really helpful as a new player!
Mhm, and thanks for watching!
i would put yukong in not recommend since you literally cannot build or even use her in the late and end game, not to mention early game or just starting
It's weird cause yukongs buffs are undeniably strong, and weirdly enough her personal damage as well lol. It's hard to fully say that she is bad, and rather just very different. Not to mention her buffs being teamwide adds a bit of flexibility to her. Really just a strange character, that takes a bit of getting used to though can end up incredibly valuable in hypercarry / dual dps setups with proper management.
@@atmospherevgcbut if the appeal is for new players, i would argue that speedtuning and working around yukong’s skill can be a little frustrating
@@Melonese Very true really why I hold her lower than every other support since all other supports are vastly less complicated.
While she has a very strong buff as a 4*, her potential is locked behind E6 and good relics. So i wouldn't recommend her for early game
This applies only if you don't have clara from standard pull
I started playing at the half of february so seeing a newer tutmeans a lot to me tysm!!
Here's me watching: What the hell is this MLC and pure fiction he keeps talking about?
For real lol. Like I've only just got to the Luofu so I have no clue what he is talking about. I think maybe the Simulated Universe? Or that portal on the train
@@ZorinNephalemz haha, i only just unlocked these game modes last week.
Entirely foreign to newer players like myself
@@ZorinNephalemzthat portal on the train is forgotten hall and at the end u unlock MOC while pure fiction is a wave killing end game content I suggest just go through the story for fun tho
Pure fiction is just another forgotten hall lol
bro put for NEW PLAYERS in the title and proceeds to just talk about endgame viablity ok dude
Thank you for making this list and the explanation man, I'm an old player but didn't play the game much bc I'm there for the story and exploration, so I'm often torn to whom I should invest in building for casual gameplay. This vid really helps a lot!!
Same. My last banner was Dang Heng IL(lost to Yangqing btw). My account is a real mess
@@Pha3th0nomg fling Yanquing! I lost my 50/50 foothill banner to that little turd
Thank you! I started playing 3 weeks ago and the first character I got from the beginner banner was Welt. I love him and he's my main team (Welt/Asta/FireTraiblazer/Natasha) These days I managed to put together my second team: Imbibitor/Tingyun/Yukon/Bailu
I'm waiting for Luocha, Fu Xuan, and maybe Sparkle, to move some characters around on both teams.
I would also really like to get BlackSwan but I don't have Kafka :c
It's been over a week since I've started my journey on here, and I clearly have both overutilized AND underutilized my array of characters. Ended up mainly using Serval, Quinque, Sampo, Ratio, Lynx, Natasha, Asta (My only Fire user until I got Fire MC), and March throughout my jounery in Jarilo-IV and I'm now working on my next team now with all this in mind.
So I started playing at launch put took the last 4 months off and am coming back. This video is very timely and interesting thanks. You know an interesting thing about this video is it illustrates how nice it is to save your jade and tickets to pull a good DPS or use Ratio or Clara haha. There actually are a lot of awesome to broken supports for free but not much variety for awesome DPS.
Thank you, I have no idea whom I Should build my earned playable characters
Just started as well and found this very enlighting. Got lucky enough to get black swan and welt. Currently building most of the characters trying to have a built 10 roster! Thanks for the vid!
I hate you i have been dying to get aoe magic dmg im suffering
Nice. I hit black swam myself. Even got her cone.
Pela is actually very useful in pure fiction, especially for activating the conditions for herta and himekos followups so id personally put her in the same tier as you but honestly could make a case for game breaking
Yep it's doable though do think it's like a bittt less strong tho not much.
Nice, that's encouraging. My main team is Clara, Lynx, Tingyun and Pela. Working on a second team with Black Swan, Natasha, then I need to decide who to use for the remaining slots out of Guin, Sampo and Luka.
if you have sampo e4 then sampo, guin is also solid because she applies a different dot to black swan so more arcana stacks
All three of those options pair well with Black Swan
If you have Sampo then i would definitely go with him, despite the fact that he wasn't rated that highly in this list, he is in fact together with Black Swan very very strong. And if you have his E4 he becomes even better being able to detonate dots like Kafka does. He will still be worse than Kafka in strength but very solid if you do not have Kafka. Also regarding the fact that both are Wind characters, that doesn't actually matter. Black Swan's Arcana stacks interacts just as well with Wind Shear than she does with any other dot. As for the fourth slot, you should go with another Harmony character if you have one. Since you're already using Tingyun in another team i would use Asta. Definitely Ruan Mei if you have her but if not, Asta will be good.
Personally been using Gui over Sampo mainly bc I prefer her as a character, but her break dmg is INSANE in aoe
E4 Sampo is really good too but idk, I already have Black Swan for wind so Gui was the obvious choice for me
Just my opinion tho
@@louorion1622 Yeah she will work fine as well. But in terms of having BS for wind, doesn't actually matter cause even though both are Wind based, BS's kit works the same with Wind Shear as it does Burn from Guinaifen, both will count the same.
Thanks for the video, its really helpful. Just started the game 3 weeks ago and i hold back in Trailblazer lv 40 to set up proper stat on some character i need. But sometimes it could a bit confusing since i havent done moc or pure fiction tho, so i looking for a reference who are worth to build.
But my goal right now is trying to enjoy the stories most of the time since my friends told me to do that rather than try hard in endgame contents or using META. Maybe i need little bit more patience haha
Yeah endgame is fun, but no harm in waiting I didn't think I'd go hard into the game at first either. Also the story is great have fun!!!
Let me tell you about March. She never left my SU team because of her strong shield! True that she does need some time to get used to and lil investment on her relics, but once she is built, she’s so good in SU paired with Preservation. *chefs kiss
I'm really fortunate to start playing around 2weeks ago. Receiving free Dr. Ratio, Bronya at Departure Warp, Sparkle with her LC, Lynx and Tingyun at Permanent Banner. Currently finishing Xianzhou Luofu. Now I need another DPS and Preservation unit, and a Debuffer and take a look at that..... its coming this next patch.
Been saving for Acheron (with Pela) and hopefully Aventurine. It's been great and excited for Anniversary.
Edit: This game continues to be generous with me😭
I pull E0 Acheron, E3 Pela and E2 Gallagher. Tried to pull Aventurine but I lost early with Gepard (Pity 24)🤣 then tried again to pull him after 25 trail pass. Then accidentally pull 10x on Jingliu banner (I absentmindedly thought its his LC) and got her.
Niceeee, and yea truly is the perfect time to start
i feel like people have to invest in dan heng when starting out.
his scalings are stupidly strong for a free starter character. and he has access to a good f2p lc.
he was important on my warpless account^^
Yea tbh i built him as well ngl just hard to really fully recommend him, when I think lot of stuff even if he's on element I'd rather go a different character that also has that weakness if I can.
He is rather fun though for sure, though I'm also very much The Hunt main lmaooo.
Very interesting takes. I’m starting a free to play account and I appreciate the information you’ve built. Personally I like using Yanqing since he goes crazy with crit damage, but I also don’t have qingque or any solid AoE units yet. Dr. Ratio for the win though lol
thank u so much for this!! i’m an ar57 genshin player and i just started playing hsr like last week i’m on tb25 i think? so yeah i have a lot to go
Oh nice star rail is very fun hope you have a blast!
Trailblazer fire works great for me since the time I got it until now. If you don't have any decent preservation, I recommend it
I started playing the game yesterday and in the first ten pull on the start banner i got yanqing, i know he is not that good, but i like his design. And on my third ten pull i got Bronya! I also like your tier list its really helpful for me as a beginner.
I'd argue Serval and Sampo should be Higher especially serval. I have an no pull account that recently achieved Trailblaze 70 and she is by far one of the most reliable characters to clear most content if invested enough. She has a an amazing type, good at breaking with fast ultimates and quite decently high consistent damage. I find her better in MoC than pure fiction because most of the time she just deals blast danage and MoC really likes to give you 4 ennemies at once so the 5 target ult doesn't lose too much damage. Being the only option for doT is also nice (assuming you didn't ger other DoT 4 stars like in the case of a no pull account) also helps to deal with the dinosaurs and Something unto death in MoC.she is the 3rd best dps we have access too behind Qq and ratio and she is very underrated currently in my opinion. As for sampo while he is certainly more of a nich character, he definetely excels in his favored teamcomps and can fill a lot of rolls in one team. He has good personal damage is incredible at breaking and enabling other DoT units and works very well for most content. Even before Kafka, i have played him since launch and he was basically the reason you could play Nihility path in sim Universe. Even in Non DoT teams if you are a new player Sampo will provide really good value because early game DoT scalings are crazy strong and his high break potential makes him an excellent damage dealer if you don't have limited 5 star options. Wind is also a pretty rare type right now eith the only reall efficient damage dealers being also pretty niche in their own regard and not the most popular characters when it comes to pull value I think it makes Sampo all the better. He is also very easy to build as you only need attack and speed and maybe a little Break Effect or ERR id you really want to go the extra mile. I don't think these characters are top tier by any means but I do think that they deserve a little justice and credit because they are amongst the most underrated 4 stars imo and they are really a lot more versatile and suited for a lot more content than one might think.
I was listening to you say Bronya is OP and i realized i did not pull in standard with the free stuff from the tutorial. Now i have Bronya, this must be fate :)
My fuckin prayers were answered. I just started on feb 10th and im a bit overwhelmed. I kinda know whos good and not but this is perfect! Thanks!
very helpful list! ty ty :)
Xueyi should be a bit higher on the list is because her ult can break a lot of shields that the enemy have regardless if the enemy has quantum weakness
Yep she has very unique potential as a sub dps in those setups just inherently has to be into like half quantum weak moc areas for it to really go off, as you'll still suffer a bit of a damage loss at times into non semi ideal content regardless. That said it's a very unique application, that makes her more viable even in non ideal scenarios unlike a lot of other characters. Just has a bit of a why not support instead thing that pushes her value from that a bit lower for me as cool as it is.
I really appreciate this guide because most guides assume that you have all the limited characters.
Here are some tip this game is more team base game for example currently in black sawn meta a lot of people are using Sampo but if you put him in other team he is bad. So yeah remember that
Yep pretty much big part of why generally enablers have significantly more value w/e they may be.
I just got this game and just finished the tutorial Simulator System battles. Doing a couple side missions atm. My MC is lvl 10 all others are whatever lvl you get them at. (Haven't tried building anything or purchasing anything yet because I didn't want to waste resources.)
4:07 I had a feeling you would say that. Got E12 Den Hang from the Acheron banner and standard banner
Nice video, you are soooo underrated
I use march with topaz and Clara in SIM universe. Elation path op. I don't usually do too good outside of there though.
I would say MC is "broken in game mode" and by that I mean in pure fiction. He/she can both do AoE and give shields just by using basics attacks, which means your main DPSs can spam SP as they want and he is good at breaking too.
Their shields are too flimsy for anything else, but for Pure fiction it's perfectly OK.
Very good point, and his break potential is very relevant pure fiction as well
Generally agree. Only gripe is that I'd put Natasha a bit higher. She's pretty essential for as long as you don't have a healer.
True tbh that spot is the one asterisk cause man healers make the game so much more comfortable.
I just got back into this game and have TB 51 , fucking grinded the shit out of it last year (it felt like a nuke when I saw that max TB is 70 and I quit the game after a month or so, I kind of overleveled a bit) and I think I'm gonna build welt and dr ratio for a combo (especially with the 2.4k free TrailBlaze green energy), they seem like a nice pair, I also have 4k defense fire MC as a tank and natasha as a healer, sounds like a fun team. I like Acheron from the story so far and would like to pull her (46 pulls on her banner and more to go) but Sampo is the one I want the most, too bad he is not really featured.
The asta disrespect is insane... For a new player a pretty much free 50% damage buff is really good on top of the speed. Shes basically robin but doesn't give a turn.
This entire video is terrible. He ranking most of the characters so wrong I felt pain watching it. I dont recommend to use this video as a guide at all ! ! !
Wow, seeing the gintoki pfp felt nostalgic
Short term use or okay in one game mode is okay for bringing a Hook, because Penacony elite enemies all of them (No Sam) have weakness to fire!
Nonetheless, Neither I got Guinaifen lmao!
Yea I value story a bit less since you can usually chill off tanks, healers, and vibes. Penacony is very nice for all DoT, and characters of Wind, Fire, and Lightning elements, I wonder why :') *cries in my only wind / lightning characters being hornless dan heng, and serval*
Bro avtually really good video, for real. I thought it had minimum 15 k views before checking it: 300 views
Now: 15 k views
thank you!!
72k. views
I have a team of Clara, March and Natasha, just built them to lvl 50 (thats the highest i can go for now) and now seeing this made me sad that i waisted materials for chars that aint gonna be much useful later
Will say March and Natasha can just take a bit more they aren't 100% reliable, but March freeze botting with effect hit rate actually can make up good sustain sometimes. Natasha, though yea, she's super replaceable...
Which that all said better now than later, and early levels are that one exception since at least the resource loss isn't big at all. So if having more sustain adds to comfort, sure why not.
Outside of Pure Fiction and MoC, i think March 7th is broken in simulated universe modes + Rembrance. Gold & Gears is easy with march on V10
Yep very much so.
I would say Lynx is a must build for MoC because of her cleanse. I’ve been playing since day one, and since her release, I’ve been using her as a solo sustain to clear MoC 12.
Agree, and same also turns some characters into god during PF as well like Clara. Very very good character.
is lynx still good with e0?
@@yn3177 Yeah, her best eidolons are E4 and E6, they aren’t necessarily though as I have only been running her with E1. The important thing with Lynx is to get a lot of speed and hp. I think it’s necessary to get her to 143 spd or even 161 if you can, I only have her at 144 spd though. I would check out Prydwens build if you haven’t.
MY absolute ;
* main dps - Dr. Ratio
* Healer - Gallagher
I only need Nihility & Preservation.
Currently my preservation is the Mc, but Im looking forward to Nihility Mc. Then later I'll find other Preservation who don't eat much skill energy. Like the preservation MC, which is exactly my style but the def amount buff percentage is too low. To add his build is still extremely raw.
I don't think we will get a nihility mc for awhileee. The best tank for ratio is coming next banner with Aventurine. Pela is also a very good nihility character to put with ratio.
Omg same
@@atmospherevgc urrmmm im not sure & don't remember if I had her but, I have total 0 motivation or any desire to lvl up female chrcter. Just say that im racist to female on that particular game. For male, Im willing to waste totally anything but money. Btw not sure if I could get Aventurine next banner cuz I accidentally win Luocha while trying to get Gallagher eidolons. Hurmmm... I can only wish & hope.
Thank you this was so helpful!
Especially as a new player who just started 😅😅
Btw, since Jingliu is coming up soon, I’m saving up for her. Do you think Lynx or Natasha is a better healer for her?
Lynx she has some passive healing, and raising the chance of jingliu being targeted for energy is somewhat nice.
Alr thanks again!!!
11:57 so glad fluffy tail lady is good as i was using her either way
For me, Dan Heng was useful until Penacony
Natasha, March, clutched me during Penacony
MC is just must build
man when I started to play hsr during its release I got seele in like 20 pulls
then I gor bronya from standart banner
then I got the battle isnt over (bronyas signature) from standart pulls
boy I am still using them today
puts March in short term use, despite her having been a hard carry for me on SU world 5 on max difficulty against Kafka without maxing her traces
funny enough, now I feel like I got lucky
Started playing the game 2 weeks? ago just to get that free Dr. Ratop and my first pulls were Tingyun and Bronya xD
Well, now I just need a team to use them with
Awesome video
Remember me when you're famous ;)
Also
I understand that lynx have clines
But as i have a built both of them
I don't die with bailu although i struggle with having lynx
Yea skill issue ik.
Mhm thank youuuu!! Yeah that is lynx one flaw her heal multipliers are much lower, while bailu has both damage mitigation, and way more heals. It's a very interesting trade off.
I would say that dr ratio is best to be built first, just because you get him first out of everyone right now.
I started Honkai when I heard about a free dr ratio and this list actually helps me out since I just started. Also do you think sparkle would be worth pulling for dr ratio?
In general for any dps that uses crit damage, sparkle will buff a bit. That does include dr ratio, though make sure you're hitting at least 3 debuffs with your other characters so dr ratio can 100% get his follow up.
Fire trailblazer is good still, yeah he not as good as someone like gepard or fu xuan but they're great especially starting out. They helped me a bunch and i still use them eventho i already at max trailblaze level
Turn him/her into a tank and all you need to do is heal only them unless there is are fire mode is good but Idk about img mode that is new I don't like it
I need help for the swarm boss, thanks for the vid now I need to build characters I don't even like for the sake of my baby Misha's ascension T-T
I believe that fire trailblazer is a badass game changer. Always on my main team. I build her over gepard bc she can still deal significant damage while tanking.
Yeah they have a unique niche gepard that doesn't have and especially now with acheron (mc skill is a debuff), and factoring in pure fiction where damage potential matters more. Tho a bit of a weak shielder / sustain surprisingly brings a decent niche. It is funny that we can say that with a fair bit of characters in this game, honestly, why I love it so much lol.
Watching this as a Returning player, gotta catch up
March has value in any Sim World version because she enables anyone to run remembrance and clear it with no decent investment required on other characters
True I do think March 7th is the one with quite a bit of merit going higher, along with having unique application on Dr. Ratio teams being a shielder that applies a debuff (freeze), main issue comes from how skill point heavy, and content dependent March can be for proper rotations, but is still a rather okay character nonetheless.
What is pure friction and MLC I am new to the game and trying to understand it's mechanics regarding team making and characters.
basically they are the endgame challenge content to the game
MoC is memory of chaos which is more focused on a few big boss enemies
Pure Fiction- meanwhile is an endgame mode that forces you to knock out swarms of enemies.
This video is obviously geared towards new players. As a new player, I'm still terrible at identifying some characters just from their picture. If you could add named timestamps that would be SUPER helpful!
I honestly don't know what I'm doing in that game but turns out, I accidentally managed to build the best characters
I would put Physical MC a bit higher. They still get the job done when Clara doesn’t cut it, like paired with Ice units (Pela, Herta, March) and Penacony enemies. Really helps that their ult is flexible too. I don’t get to use Fire MC much in Penacony except for one boss.
Brand new to the game and going through the story with: Dr. Ratio, Asta, Tingyun, and Gallagher. I'm still early and my characters are level 30, do you think I should swap Asta with Pela? Also, where does Gallagher sit on your tier list? Thanks!
Gallagher is up there with the other healers, one of the best f2p sustains you can get though a bit archetype specific, whether for acheron, ratio, or pure break team, but in general pretty good. On switching for pela, I'd say probably when you get through relic farming and a higher level account a bit so you can abuse her ult a bit. Though you can start early, she is a great source of debuffs for Dr ratio.
I started this week I’m trailblazer lvl 15 and apparently all my sustain units are mid 🥲 so who do I invest in?
who do you have? I put sustains there, but it's not really them being "mid" but rather them being future replacable. (anyone in the bailu lynx gepard grouping you can keep rather long term, and march has a bit of super specific synergy late game)
bronya is my first 5 stars unit🙂🙂
At which eidolon does qingque becomes worth leveling?
Thanks for the recommendations
E4 is where qingque really can pop off, though E6 is usually what people recommend cause slightly more comfort.
The Tier is great, it is very accurate and useful for all kind of player. Still, I would like to suggest to everyone: PLAY THE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE. In this game every character (with a good amount of investment) can perform incredibly well, so if u like some of those who aren’t in top tier, just give u some time to farm and you will see how good they can be.
This is an advice from someone who felt bored of this game so many times, but now i’m in a good streak of month in which i played no stop and i don’t feel bored at all.
I hope this can be useful for someone who is struggling playing lately.
Peace
What about any Teams recommendations with Himeko and Dan Heng IL , I recently got Dan Heng and Himeko as well as bailu in 1.6 , Any recommendations (Only have Natasha and Bailu for Abundance) for teams? Maybe Himeko dps but I also have dr ratio but then again PF hes kinda bad sadly
-I also have E5 Guinaifen from Trying to get tingyun 😂 , At least I got her but whilst getting 6 Guinaifens 😂😂❤
with dan heng a simple one would be IL, Tingyun, and Pela + Bailu or sustain of choice (hanya/yukong are other interesting idea w/ him) Sparkle should be the best partner for him if you're lucky next banner.
Himeko is interesting, w/ pure fiction there's the funny himeko herta idea, and then MoC mono fire w/ himeko guinaifen asta is pretty fun, alongside simple hypercarry ideas with tingyun, asta, and big buffs.
you should invest abit in dan heng anyway because this game severely lack wind elements unit, it will make your beginning more easier for sure
i’ve got DHIL e0s1, tingyun e6 with bronya LC, pela e0 and bailu e1 for the first team, but i can’t get any idea for what to do for the second one. i really wanna save a lot of pulls and go for acheron e2s1 with gui e4 and linxy with hopes to pull bronya from standard warp, but that would mean i have to skip sparkle and miss out on il best partner. i’m in existential crisis rn and dunno what to do. can some1 clear up my mind pleeeease
Tbh I think you'd be a lot happier going E0 sparkle, and then going as much as you can with Acheron skipping a character that good for the sake of eidolons is a bit silly, especially when you are second guessing it.
@@atmospherevgc yeah it feels terrible to skip out on prob most busted combo in game. but i feel like acheron less then e2 is waste of money since you locked to 2 nihility, which means either no harmony or sustain unless there are coming nihility sustain in the future, but at this point it’s better to wait for rerun and just save and hope for jingliu in phase 2
yanqing carried me through jarilo and xianzhou in the early game. he’s kind of falling off now for me compared to the damage i’d like to be doing now. lost acheron 50/50 to himeko and have opted to play physical mc over her. himekos ass and i spent 5 minutes building mc and she is already better than my himeko, i’m at 68 pity on acherons banner and guaranteed so now my next worry is finding an acheron team that i have everyone for
My team for now is Clara, Sparkle, Dan Heng, and Pela. I have Natasya as my only healer, so should I replace Dan Heng? also i do also have Tingyun, should i add her in my team?
Guessing regular Dan if so yes. Which I'd look into adding a natasha or March even if they are replaceable healer / shielder (march less replaceable she has some tricky gameplay loops that go well late game) the early game comfort is nice (if the early game comfort doesnt matter to you then just running no natasha is more ideal). Tingyun is also a lot better with Clara as her buffs can stick well.
What does mlc mean ? Or maybe i'm not hearing well i'm french sorry
MoC- memory of chaos one of the endgame modes in the game. It's more focused on a few big enemies
i dont know how much i agree with this. Not much i will said but is an intersting perspective. Yukong evaluation for example for a new player i belive yukong 100% a F tiert totally, you need speed boots, speed tunning to fully feel her buff and without eidolons she is meh. Yes her buff is great but just from the fact that every other Harmony unit in the game is 90% useful in any comp i belive her being so heavy "build around me" is one of the worse baits for new players.
Yea I think the key distinction is you really have to confront her value through a dual dps comp, which honestly can make her a bit worse value tho in content like pure fiction she is quite good as one of the few strong f2p buffers especially for himeko herta or clara based comps. That said, my mistake, I think, is missing on how people associate her buff in a general moc setting cause she is strictly sizably weaker than other buffers in terms of utility and future value. That said purely as a unit I hesitate to ever call her completely bottom of the barrel, but I can see a lower evaluation, especially with MoC really still being the content you have to work through most. Which, here is what I'd consider her better comps of like ratio teams, Tingyun still just ends up about always a better unit than her unfortunately even in an imaginary based setup she should have the advantage in. That being my mistake with her placement, and honestly why she should be lower though still not bottom. Strictly cause harmony units are just that more valuable.
I just started last month but
I already got Himeko,Bronya and Himekos Light Cone but I'm still a newbie so yah XD
omg niceeee that's such a win actually
Glad i built my tingyun though she has a curse to being aggroed and always first to die.
I don't know about Kinkuey but Qingque is broken for me like I got her e6 early on and she convinced me I don't ever need Seele, her damage out scales most 5 star DPS I pulled all the while being infinitely more fun to play with ✓
the only problem in building dr ratio is that is ascension materials are "end game" so it's difficult to reach them
Surprisingly no the story for him actually unlocks after you finish Belobog.
It annoys me to hell how he doesn't pronounce the names of the characters right
Also he didn't talk about Bailu's revive and how her talent can not only "mitigate damage" but possibly even heal more HP than what was lost
She heals a crapton amount, so much so that even if you're underleveled, you'll be able to go far if you have her built, well, all that in exchange for a cleanse
I'm confused about the limited resource thing cause if they're limited in the same way genshin are then u will still be able to get them back? Or is there just no more
You get them back that was more a use your time to the best value kind of thing. Not necessary though tbh, but does help if you want to get to the hardest content faster.
@@atmospherevgc i see i see. Thank u for clarifying it. I mostly just want to be able to go through the story.. but ur guide is very helpful still cause i didn't know someone like herta or asta is good!!
Could you maybe combine Ratio with an Acheron core to make the most of his kit and get more hits in PF? They’re already stacking tons of debuffs.
Other nihility users would outclass in that regard. Tho that concept would work with a character like topaz actually, but still just nihility stack tbh.
What about simulated universe? Feels like that's an important gamemode that should have been considered here
Tbh simulated universe has one simple tactic that will win eventually, and that's pure brute force, and its own whole line of gimmicks, because of the unique nature of blessings that only get expanded on with each expansion. So it's simply unfair to judge character off the simulated universe really when a lot of the factors are very very relative to the run, and in general other characters that are already good are still good in simulated universe, though some funny strats like Freeze with March 7th become stronger as well. Though all that together, it's just a different world where nothing has to matter depending on the paths / dice / blessings you choose. To a point that I'd say the most meaningful thing is just your micro decisions between runs.
Im waiting for nihility MC.
As someone who just started the game, this is very helpful. Thank you for this!!
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When i first started the game i thought stellaron hunters would be like archons but now i own all 3 stellaron hunters currently available and they all feel really weak to me silverwolf suffers from being single target my kafka isnt strong enough to be the sole DoT 5* on the team and Blade does like 20k on an ult compared to ratio and seele easily hitting over 100k i feel like i fucked my account a little for the forseeable future by summoning for stellaron hunters
I'm building my E2S1 Clara (why do all my lost 50/50s go to Clara?) ATM BC I feel like eidolons are gonna be needed for me to max clear MoC and Purefiction
What do you use on Blade that seems a bit odd?
Dan Henng Wind is still good tho..
For myself, i prefer playing Danheng Wind rather than Yanqing, because of how more flexible he is..
Yanqing is stuck with gepard / aventurine (after 2.1), and Tingyun (for her energy sharing)
While dan heng can use any other characters with no worries..
True I did address this a little bit talking about yanqing where he essentially has a higher ceiling, but his floor is incredibly low as a result. Which current patch we see a bit more the ceiling side of things as he has about as optimal support as he could ever get. Pela, Gepard, Ruan Mei (she can even enable no tank yanqing). Which unfortunately with that said as low off as he is he desperately needs quite a few changes for things to truly go his way.
In comparison on this Dan Heng wind has Bronya which is very nice, but there's not really enough supports that fully enable his kit yet, though I expect this might change in the future. He does have some interesting ideas with slows that aren't fully established.
@@atmospherevgc I'm thinking of building him.. but i have to build my more important team..
My thoughts on dan heng is just:
Danheng - Bronya - Silverwolf - Fuxuan
So basically Seele team but with Danheng instead..
Silverwolf basic may proc slow on enemy and that help with his ult needing slow to deal higher damage..
And fuxuan giving him crit rate as well as sustain and since her skill targetting only affects her, it doesn't interrupt danheng passive..
This seems good in mind but i dont know in practice..
Since danheng and sw gives lot of debuff, he can just use the new relic set..
Ok so I am tl 36 and just pulled Archeon, I have pela and gallagher with her in my team. Who else should I use. Currently saving for silver wolf
Guinaifen, welt >>>> Luka is the order I would think of it as. Unfortunately, you have to be caught up to get the free character selector for guinaifen, but that would be the ideal option. Otherwise, you can just fill with someone random you like for story content or another tank to make things easier early on.
Now that we have sparkle yukong is obsolete
wow just got Bronya from beginner banner
I want to like Yukong, but she feels very skill point hungry and also she forces you to pay attention to speed - to get the max benefit of her buffs, you need your dps to be just slower than her. It's too specific to be worth it IMO. I would rather run tingyun, bronya, or asta - or in 5-star huohuo or ruan mei.
That's fair, and I do have her a bit lower as well cause of it ngl. Though will say on 2nd take Bronya has the same thing, but wanting a DPS to be faster than her.
@@atmospherevgcthat's true with bronya, but it feels easier to attain somehow. besides maybe ruan mei, i feel like tingyun is actually the best support in the game over all. she is so easy to use, barely needs skill points, and provides soo much especially with the right light cone.
All very very true, and tbh I do hold Yukong low in reality it's mainly my philosophy that supports tend to have more value automatically so putting one super low even with a skill curve feels wrong.@@indigorune
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Yeah I really need to get better at that lmaoo though kinda spitting Qingque is truly great love her deserves that👑