The Vampire Armand Has Been A Fraud The Whole Time
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- The Vampire Armand was nothing but an absolute total fraud for both seasons, not just season 2. I also have to address the question on if the tv show exposed Armand’s character for what he truly was or did they kind of ruin his character from the books because I always thought armand was this cool vampire, very mysterious and I needed up not really liking him after the season finale.
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I low-key think Armand is so good at gaslighting that he even gaslit himself to believe that he had no part in Louis suffering. Anyways thanks to divorce maker Daniel we now know the truth.
I really love how the show portrays actual narcissistic behavior. The vampiric seduction angle is so deeply ingrained into the genre that it's rarely interesting, so bringing it back around like this is such a breath of fresh air.
But there's something flawed with the script that didn't make sense. Armand didn't want to kill Louis as Daniel suggests as he later released him from the coffin and stayed with him for 77 years. This is a logical plot hole so makes twist rather contrived. So no gaslighting but weak writing.
@@jonfreeman9682 I don't think Armand ever wanted to kill Louis, I think it was something he thought he had to do/obligated to because of the covens rules. I think the whole betrayal was due to the fact that Armand was shackled to the coven and its way and chose what he knew rather than what he wanted.
I think that lestat saving Louis was when he realized that Louis did not have to die (thus saving him from the coffin). Mind you we saw this happen before with his first coven/cult. Where he wanted them to stop but felt like he couldn't until lestat came and did the work for him.
as for the 77 years I think he stayed because he did genuinely love Louis. and that when I say gaslit I mean he truly believed that Louis had forgiven him for the abuse (failing to save Louis, Claudia and Madeline, letting Louis suffer in San Fran, and then erasing his memories and selling him a different story). I think he was so lost in the sauce that he thought it would've all work out.
I don't really think its weak writing maybe not the strongest or maybe we don't have the whole story because the show keeps showing us how the story changes with different pov. But I do think Armand had mentally distanced himself from the things he has done to Louis. that doesn't mean he didn't love Louis nor does he it mean he didn't play a part in harming Louis. it just means he was lying to himself as mush as he was lying to Louis that their relationship was fine and healthy.
@@rifa1673 I am looking forward Lestats account on what happened. Every story has 3 sides Louis, Lestats and the truth. Armand how ever can not be trusted to tell the truth :)
The actor did AMAZING. He made me not like Armand from the beginning.
he is my favorite, Armand is such complex character and there is no villain in the story because they all are kind of fucked up louis used armand to spite lestat for 77 years he own a brothel armand was a sex slave and louis made him into his sub its a story about a punch of messed up vampires looking for love
@@alexandriett3 Louis didn't make Armand his sub. Armand controls by giving the illusion of power to others. Armand was ALWAYS in control.
@@StedeBonnetsCravat THE THING IS ARMAND ONLY KNOWS HOW TO LOVE BY GIVING HIMSELF TO OTHERS HE WAS NEVER TAUGHT OTHER WAY AND SINCE THE MOMENT LOUIS WALKED IN PARIS HE WAS FUCKING UP LEFT AND RIGHT THROWING HIS TRAUMA AT OTHERS CLAUDIA DIED BECAUSE OF HIM NOT ARMANDS HE JUST DIRECTED IT LOUIS WROTE IT
@StedeBonnetsCravat I think people misunderstood sub for no power, the sub tends to have all the power because they are the ones giving up their control and can revoke it at any time (given you have a good person to act as the dom.) Ita not an illusion of power it's just the dynamic no one has ultimate power over another being, Armand is used to that dynamic through grooming/trauma so he falls into those cycles just like Louis and Lestat. They are all he same in different ways.
He did alright. But the character was poorly written in the book and spills over into the show.
The show did a great job at showing who armand truly is to me Assad did a brilliant job as armand can't wait for season 3
It’s when you leave an upfront toxic relationship and then get into a relationship with someone who is conniving. Treat you good for a while but you find small issues. Nothing big until you realize it’s a lot. Now you wasted more time in this kind of relationship and this was Louie and armond relationship
they know all the hurt you've just been through and still do you wrong in the worst way!!
That's cause there's no perfect relationship. Lestat was flawed and so was Armand and even Louis.
He’s like the Littlefinger of the story.
No that's Marius. You'll see soon enough
The casting directors were geniuses casting Assad with his big doe-eyes and innocent face (Book Armand is described as having the face of an angel), which of course belies his duplicitous, sinister nature.
In the book he was 11 when made. This Armand is NOTHING like book Armand
@@joes622 He was 17, not 11.
i knew from the beginning he was up to something… ever since he came out and floated for Daniel.
When Louie threw Armand against the wall i wonder why Armand did not say anything why he did not do anything. Is it because deep down he knew it would be pointless now that the cat was out of the bag so does speak...
Armand wanted to be out of the trap of being around Louis ,but wanted to make it look like the decision was forced on him...just like the destruction of the covens ....hes addicted to the martyr feeling
I think the whole reason why Louis attacked him was to shut him up. He kept trying to talk and talk, lie and lie. The throwing against the wall was an "Enough, already!" that finally shut him up. I definitely don't think he was trying to get out of the "trap" of being around Louis. He was the one who created and maintained the trap.
@@ravenkushner Just like he did with the Children of Darkness and Theatre des Vampires. That's just how he is.
Armand is more powerful than Louis. Remember Armand can fly and can stop time and can do mind control. So with his powers he can easily overpower Louis. Daniel implies that Armand was trying to kill Louis just like Claudia and it was Lestat that saved him. This says Armand is a pretty confused guy. He doesn't even know if he wants to kill Louis or not. Armand didn't fight back because the truth is out and he doesn't want to hurt Louis. If he wanted to Armand can kill Louis but vampire life is a lonely life. Of course this whole story is bonkers too. Like that show trial Lestat never died so technically there should be no murder trial. And if anyone wants to kill Louis that would be Lestat as he's the victim he would have the most motivation to want Louis dead not Armand. So the twist that Armand wanted him dead and Lestat saves him because Lestat wanted to gift happiness to Louis to be with Armand? Huh? That's the reason Lestat gives at the end? It makes absolutely no sense. Not sure if this twist is in the book but irrespective this is a plot hole. Or logic hole.
Hé is truly an evil step mother
I love the show’s Armand and I think Assad brought so much more complexity to the character. I never liked book Armand. It was so clear that he wanted Claudia out of the way that he even says it! But he gets away with it because he says “I could not prevent it”. He plays the weak man which is honestly beneath him. Why Louis falls for it has always upset me. The show makes Armand’s actions purposeful. Assad brings it together in a toxic love that fits so perfectly! Very happy with this season.
I could definitely tell that you were pissed at Armand.
I love Armand! It was her first book I read and loved him from the beginning! His whole life was traumatic! Read his book and give you a new perspective!
what’s his book called ?
@@internetfakingg The vampire Armand
If i recall in the book, Louis tells Armand he knows he was behind the murder of Claudia and Armand denies it. There's no actual proof. This direction in the series, for me, is waaaaay worse. Spending 77 years with a man you believed, though complicit in Claudia's death, saved you only to find out that he was the one who orchestrated the whole thing?! Jeez what a mindfuck!!!
Ideally….even in the Queen of the Damned when Armand pursues Daniel he was a complete bastard…he was no different than when Lestat found him trying to read in a library after the coven left the graveyard
AWESOME ACTOR! AWESOME CHARACTER! I've only read the first 2 books....but the show, despite some changes, is excellent!
it felt like armand was trying to speed up her insanity...passively of course. BTW VAMPIRE FOLKLORE are you going to continue the episode breakdown??? please i love your channel
I've been trying to figure out why Armand would've let Louis die.
Just a thought - Armand, and the Coven, used Louis and Claudia's presence in Paris to get Lestat to come back. Then, with Louis dead, Armand could attempt to rekindle his relationship with Lestat.
He was on some if I can't have you no1 can ish😂
@@MargauxChanning Louis is the prize. I don't think he wants Lestat so much as he wants him to suffer. Louis is his quickening because of his soul, emotions, energy, and beauty. He has the spark that older vampires lost and miss. Daniel also has it in a way . The show deviated so much from the book because Armand would've never let Louis die to appease his coven. He's an obsessive stalker.
@@tanasiap8308 that sounds more like him and I know once he attempted what he did to get rid of Claudia (which the show will not tell), he had Louis to himself, so why kill him?
My believe is that Armand was either banking on Lestat saving Louis, or letting Louis die to punish Lestat for abandoning him. If Louis dies, he finally gets his revenge for Lestat leaving him. If Lestat does save Louis, he knows Louis would still hate him for Claudia's death. It's a win-win for him
Great video so far! I love how deep you go into the mythos
I love how he's so hot & mysterious one episode and then he starts to fall apart & then the man is laid bare, kind of like when life has a habit of laying us bare in our weakest moments. Or maybe when we are laid bare we feel we are at our weakest... 🤔 Either way... They should have just stripped him bare for the entire show... 😛 sorry... different kind of bare. 🤭
"Its not gonna happen" haha!!
absolutely not gonna happen lol
I'm binging your Anne Rice videos. I've read all the books and watched the movie & the series multiple times now. Thank you for continuing to compare all sources and for your corrections & explanations. I love your indignity here at Armand's BS! Bravo!
Thank you for always simplifying everything I’ve been a fan of everything vampires!!! I’ve seen things in a whole new way with your perspective 🎉
“For those of you telling me to remake it, it’s not gonna happen” 😂😭 pop off king, I appreciate all the work you put into your videos.
my favorite part is when you compare differences from the book to the show!
Armand was the ultimate villain. Your voice betrays your character attachment with Armand. You are among the many. Arrrrggghhhhh that Armand needs to face the fire. Louis needs to be single for a couple of millelums because, dang! His instincts are zero to nothing.
If Armand was strong enough to throw a vampire around, then Louis would not have been able to physically overpower him in Dubai. His power has always been his mind gift and his ability to tell stories and fantasies to justify his behaviour, even to himself.
Armand absolutely is strong enough to throw another vampire around. He could've easily punched Louis through the wall if he wanted to. Armand didn't want to. Despite what a lot of the comments here are saying, Armand does care about Louis. It's just that by the time he realized how much he cared, he'd already destroyed any real chance at a relationship. When Louis throws him into the wall, he knows it's over, so he lets him go.
@@gildatheplant Sure, show Armand may be stronger, he is however different from book Armand. Book Armand is easily overpowered when he is attacked physically ie Roman Coven and by fledgeling Lestat at the Tuilere's when Armand was 300 years old (and both were turned by children of the Millennia and Marius was presumably stronger than Magnus having had Akasha's blood, so there really is no reason Lestat should have been able to overpower Armand but he did). The only time we see Armand defeating someone physically in the books (from my memory) it was when he threw Lestat from Magnus's tower, but Lestat had been burned and drained of blood and Armand was controlling him psychically. Armand probably has the strongest mind gift out of the known vampires. This is how he fights. And if he truly cared about Louis, he would not have murdered Claudia and Madeline. Louis was something that Armand thought belonged to Lestat and he coveted him, as one would an object. Although to be fair show Lestat also treats Louis as an object "I gave you to Armand".
2:51 He doesn't FORCE Lestat to help him dissolve his coven, he MANIPULATES Lestat into doing so. He FORCES him to come to the coven by taking Nicki so that he CAN dissolve the coven. It's an incredibly important detail and distinction, it shows who Armand is.
2:56 There is no bargain to dissolve the coven in return for teaching him a gift as you imply. It was Lestat tricking Armand into thinking they love each other and will be companions for the rest of their lives and once Lestat had what he wanted, he left. Not sure you actually understood the show...
3:07 The coven members scattered, lost their minds or killed themselves. The ones you see in the crowd were curated and gathered by Lestat as a gift to Armand to open his theater.
5:47 Armand didn't ASK Louis to tell him about Lestat when the time was right. He kept nudging and nudging MANIPULATIVELY to get Louis to admit it and when he couldn't take it anymore, he nudged a little harder and Louis had to outright say it.
You really really didn't understand MOST of the manipulation Armand did...
In the show, if he wanted Louis so much, why was he willing to let him die?
Louis became expendable once Armand decided to choose the coven over him. The coven was a safe bet. Louis was a wild card. Cold-blooded motherf***er.
He wasn't. SMH.
@bellabunnell3174 the video maker said so, so I was asking. In truth, it appears in the show that Armand was willing to let Louis die, it was indeed Lestat that saved him controlling the audience. So, why did Armamd remain with him? Was it apathy? In the book he has a nice dose of it! Events just flash over him.
@@FraBra88 Armand was willing to let Louis die because he wasn't convinced Louis actually cared about him, which in fairness to Armand, Louis really wasn't clear about. At times Louis acted like he cared, at other times he was cold (because Louis was still very much in love with Lestat, which Armand was aware of). Armand had known some members of his coven for 200 years, even if he didn't love them, he thought he knew where he stood with them. Louis made it clear he hated the coven, so the coven hated him, and Armand was stuck in the middle. The sad thing is, if Armand had befriended Claudia, got her on his side, he likely could've won Louis over. Instead he saw her as competition, and things fell apart.
@@gildatheplant makes sense for show Armand
I can’t believe he was going to let him die it really shows how much lestat loved him ❤ armond is a total jerk
That's the thing, I don't like the direction the series went with this. Armond always had the objective to attain Louis' affection and attention, at least within the books. Armond going out of his way to spend years controlling and loving a man he was willing to let die makes no sense, whatsoever. He had Louis, there was no point in what he was doing. He could have left the coven and lived his unlife relatively unbothered. I was too clear if axing the coven was the main goal, but him just leaving would have had better results.
I agree with you. I think the show needed to get Armand out of the way definitively and without question so that the main Lestat-Louis relationship could be preserved. I think that's also why I never saw any Jacob-Assad interviews by themselves. In my opinion, they never wanted to let that relationship have any validity so that it didn't compete with the stars. I get it, but it did make Armand's actions more baffling than in the book, in which Armand was devoted to Louis.
@@ravenkushner Yep, which is very disappointing. These guys are writers, this is their art. And they're ok with letting this shit hit a screen?!
This series (television wise) is a mixed bag. Great cinematography, good writing here and there, and great performances/characterizations. But man! There were some bad decisions from aspects of Louis that were removed which are strong indicators to what we know draws others of his kind to him. His humanity. Instead now, the only thing I can tell him apart from every other person is that his ass is super melodramatic which makes him hard to swallow at times. Claudia's dilemma/agony is a little less believable due to the age presented in the series. Neither actresses play a convincing child. They seem like they are in the latter, if not mid point of their teen years. Claudia could easily excuse herself as a young adult.
Then there's some of the wokeness in there. At least, I was detecting it.
I would try to speak on what's wrong narratively but it's been awhile since I've seen the prior seasons. So, I'll dip on that for now.
@@dranixrush3306""Wokeness". Sit down. You misunderstood pretty much everything. For VERY obvious reasons, Claudia had to be made older om the show. Armand wanted her out of the way. She's an abomination in the vampire world. I could go on and on about your misinterpretations, but frankly, it's exhausting explaining to narrow-minded and unlearned readers/viewers.
@@RockChick63174Armand knows how to mess with people. He tried to break Claudia’s spirit with the bait and switch act he did. Tricking her, making her think she would have a serious role in the theatre troupe but made her play a babydoll character, having to play into the thing she absolutely hated he thought she would self exit in no time. But when she didn’t he went full scorched earth on both Claudia and Louis, and used the Troupe as the scapegoat.
He didn't have Louis though. Louis made it clear, intentionally or not, that he wasn't really in love with Armand. That he was still pining for Lestat (who Armand knew was still alive). Armand bent rules for Louis, upsetting the rest of his Coven, yet Louis couldn't even bring himself to call Armand his companion in front of them. Obviously Armand went way too far, but Louis knowingly made the situation worse. And not just with Armand, he did it with Claudia too. None of these characters are truly worse than the others.
Do a video on my boy Michael Corvin. Please include his role in Underworld Endless War.
Maybe do a video on the love story between Michael Corvin and Selene.
VF, not sure if you're going to see this, but I think I worked it out. The writers NEEDED to do this for Armand with Louis because they aged up Daniel. Don't forget that QOTD reveals Daniel suffers over 10 years of being "the Devil's Minion" before he's turned. With this being the second interview and Daniel's 70s experience being "only" a few days (and then wiped away), they needed a substitute to really drive home how he comes across in QOTD.
Armand is a top tier player of holding grudges and being vindictive. And Louis was silly enough to fall for it.
Question: Do all vampires have to join the coven?
Im disappointed with that. Doesn't fit the narrative of Ann Rice. The Armand from the books is a much more multi-layered character.
We don't find out how multilayered he is until later books. In IWTV he was the villain. We're only on the first book and we've already been given waaaaay more info and characterization from the other books. Be patient.
I hope he gets what is coming to him and louie goes back to lestat.
Question about Armand's name pronunciation. I'm so confused. Is "D" in the end of the name pronounced or not? So many people and even actor in the show say it differently. I think "d" isn't verbal but I need confirmation
I assume so. Since it is pronounced in Armadeo. It’s also a very soft D.
Armand literally was acting like one of the servants in season 1, I didn’t trust him the moment he realized himself to Daniel as a 500 year old vampire. Any words that came out of his mouth in season 2 was in his direction, not Louis so Daniel wouldn’t find out about his lies.
armand always knew Louie existed
Proud to belong in the "I Always Hated Armand" club from when I started reading the series back in 1997.
Louis' life is a total mess because three psycho vampires couldn't stop obsessing over him
Lol, you know the books, right?
Did the show do that good of a job with the misdirect??
I called bullshit everytime they tried to make him look like a good guy lol i was banking on a twist
He's too handsome to be a fraud.
This show is amazing. All the characters are true evil in their own way. Armand was duplicitous but he did save/ spare Luis‘ life more than once. First, when they accepted Claudia into the coven, Armand was about to set Luis on fire… but he spared him. Then, he released Luis out of his banishment (slow death by starving) from the coffin. Lestat allowed Claudia and Madeleine to be burned but did save Luis from immediate death by the sun, so that he would be banished into the iron coffin. Armand saved him by letting him out. Years later, crazy Luis, who obviously suffered trauma from Claudia’s death (which neither Armand nor Lestat! prevented although they both could have!!!) went into the sun. But again, our favorite beige pillow Armand prevented it. Without Armand, there would be no Luis! Armand is a monster, but so is Luis, and so is most definitely Lestat!
There's serious plot holes in the writing.
What I'm confused with and I'll ask this question on several channels, and no one can really seem to give me an answer as to why Armond rescued Louis from the crypt? He could have left Louis there to die, since he was going to let Louis burn on the stage. I'm not understanding why Armond brother to go back and save Louis, or was that Lestat too? I really need clear answers.
He knew Louis would take his revenge on the coven, so Armand would be free to do what he wanted. Especially with Santiago now being their leader. Basically his plan was to save his self from the covens wrath by getting rid of Louis and claudia. When Louis was saved, I think he realized that Louis would get revenge against the coven, thereby saving himself again but also freedom.
@@daciamr1
That makes perfect sense, I was really trying to understand what his reasoning for saving Louis if he was planning to let him die. I was even wondering if Lestat was going to come up with a way to try and save Louis, because it seemed crazy to save him from burning only to let him die a slow death. Maybe Armand contacted Lestat just like he did in 73 and Lestat may have been the one one. Just like Lestat helped Armand get free from the coven before. I still think Lestat had more to do with getting Louis free. Because Armand kept telling Louis to leave not to stay. It would be crazy if we get another flash back and see that Lestat had more to do with saving him. And Armand changed that memory in his mind too. Because Armand sure knew where to find Lestat. Sorry this is so long but this shows just how powerful Lestat really is even in a weakened state Armand and Louis together were not strong enough to take him on. They both lit fire in there hands but didn't even try him.
@@lenorawilson2326 And who knows all of what is or is not true. Everyone has different views and interactions. I feel like they all have just learned to bend to whatever helps them survive. I can't wait to see Armand let "loose" next season 😍 😆
The little gremlin. How dare he?
There was something about Armand that I didn’t like and that was trusting him.🤦🏻♀️
Read the book, it's better. In the book they are not lovers. But, it good Armand is really really good and not wanting everybody to know what he did. They put two books together like Queen of the Dam.
They're companions pretty much from Claudia's death to the modern era. The only (major) difference is that rather than their relationship ending through violence, it's through apathy. Louis just stops caring about anything and it drives Armand away.
Can you please do another twilight video 🙏
I feel bad for Armand. That bum Louis took advantage of him like he does with everyone. I just wish i had ancient blood in me. 😂
@@ravenkushner It was a joke. If anything... Armand took advantage of Louis. You seem like a good person so ill leave it at that. I thought it was clear...
Say what you want about Lestat but at least he waa honest 😂
I like the show but does disney own amc
Nope. It's not disney owned and is its own company. They also own other things.
was a decent book . the movies lost the plot after interview . i wnat lestat made well it wa sthe best. wolfkiller
Covert narcissist - Armand
You misspelled "phaag".