Cutting Helical Gears on the Horizontal Mill 4: Machining a Stub Arbor to hold a Gear Cutter

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  • Cutting Helical Gears on the Horizontal Mill 4: Machining a Stub Arbor to hold a Gear Cutter
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  • @robertlewis2
    @robertlewis2 Год назад +51

    I think this is one of the most complicated tooling setups you have ever shown on your channel; very impressive!

  • @HaraldFinster
    @HaraldFinster Год назад +20

    Deep respect for this: you do a really complex setup and create a video on the process simultaneously. A lot of multi tasking must be involved to do so. Really interesting setup.

  • @fredclark4033
    @fredclark4033 Год назад +19

    An involved set up to cut the gear, and looking forward to seeing the finished project. We'll done so far Keith.

  • @gregorywells7905
    @gregorywells7905 Год назад +9

    Hope you'll make a small run of these gears, Keith. As someone involved in old car restoration for over 50 years, I am ceratin you'll have the opportunity to sell a few of these gears in the years to come..

  • @maggs131
    @maggs131 Год назад +7

    🎶the best part of waking up is Keith Rucker in your cup🎶 ☕😀👍

    • @andywithers592
      @andywithers592 Год назад

      Likewise with a lunchtime coffee here in Switzerland.

  • @llapmsp
    @llapmsp Год назад +25

    Can't wait to see the cutting process. Really interesting so far.

  • @shannonstebbens6992
    @shannonstebbens6992 Год назад +12

    It's been interesting following your progress on this project. Looking forward to the next video to see the test cuts. This is one for the books, from the pre-casting casting of the blank to the finished product. Quite a journey! I hope we can see a future video of the engine this is made for in action.

  • @stuartschaffner9744
    @stuartschaffner9744 Год назад +6

    Well done! When this is finished, you will not only have a fancy helical gear, but you will have an important vintage mill all set up for general use on future projects.

  • @NeilABliss
    @NeilABliss Год назад +3

    This series has been on of the most complicated, yet interesting series. Looking forward to the end results.

  • @infoanorexic
    @infoanorexic Год назад +3

    This is one of those setups where it won't make sense to me until I see it in action.
    One other procedure I've yet to see is bending pipe in a way that keeps the pipe wall thickness the same as the rest of the pipe throughout the bend. Someone told me about it when I was in my early 20's, and I thought the guy was trying to "pull my leg." I didn't say it, but the man read the doubt I had and assured me that it was possible, and told me where there were examples of the work near us, still in use in old steam heat pipe work. It is/was a technique that, once they knew it, was kept as a highly guarded secret. If everyone knew it, it was less work/money for them ... and woe to the pipe fitter that dared to give the secret away. Their fate was probably worse than death.
    No telling how many "old school" tricks went undocumented, never passed on, because of that greed...

  • @msheaver
    @msheaver Год назад +6

    If it's not too late, I do hope you do video and document the practice run on the plastic blank! I love how you make the time and effort to explain why you do what you do!

  • @hobbiesrus
    @hobbiesrus Год назад +6

    That is quite the setup for one gear! This has been really interesting to watch. Thanks Keith!

  • @greggoff4990
    @greggoff4990 Год назад

    I’m just in awe of the men who made the machine and attachments.

  • @thomasconetsco361
    @thomasconetsco361 Год назад +6

    I take my hat off to ya. That was one crazy set up. The plastic test pieces is a good idea.👍🏻

  • @PhilRable
    @PhilRable Год назад +3

    Keith, like your practice run. When I was an apprentice a very, very long time ago my teacher stressed in our young guys 🎉the “6P-principle”: Prior Practice Prevents Pi## Poor Performance”. Love your videos.

  • @asharahmadarrauf
    @asharahmadarrauf Год назад

    Amazing work as always , i like how you go slow and detailed like a proper education channel spoon feeding us kids like a proffesor .. 😀😀🙏🙏

  • @azarellediaz4892
    @azarellediaz4892 Год назад +2

    Keith, this may be the most complicated setup I’ve ever seen and I can’t wait to see it in use. It’s great to see a master take the time to teach us, thank you.

  • @Scodiddly
    @Scodiddly Год назад

    “Rinse and repeat” - I always appreciate a shampoo reference from somebody who has the same haircut as me.

  • @jimcrichton8028
    @jimcrichton8028 Год назад +1

    Your ability to take a complex procedure and break it down into managable segments so that a novice engineer can understand is commendable. Always enjoy your input.

  • @ianmorris1675
    @ianmorris1675 Год назад +2

    Just getting that cutter directly over the center of the gear blank axis is going to be interesting to watch and get right.

  • @afnDavid
    @afnDavid Год назад +1

    Please stay tuned to the channel for an exciting future episode!

  • @jorgeconcheyro
    @jorgeconcheyro Год назад

    The most complex calculation was about setting a proper ratio on the gears connecting the table and the head so that when the blank turned a whole turn, the table moved a precise length. We used to call it a revolution. That was my job at tech school... :D

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Год назад +5

    Great video. I was wondering about a practise piece. Thanks again.

  • @gonecoastal4
    @gonecoastal4 Год назад

    Keith, King of the cliffhanger, Rucker. Haha. Love the content. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

  • @LanceMcGrew
    @LanceMcGrew Год назад

    25:10 was just thinking - man I'd want to practice on something like an aluminum blank before doing the final. This setup brings back memories from many years ago I machined some variable pitch plastic screws to feed plastic bottles into a filling machine.

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Год назад +1

    LOOKS GREAT KEITH

  • @rexmyers991
    @rexmyers991 Год назад

    Oh my gosh! What a set-up. A plastic practice gear is a good common sense next step. I’ll be watching for your next video.

  • @johnmorris3744
    @johnmorris3744 Год назад

    I was an unappreciative little burrhand/cnc operator many years ago. I’ll be honest, at the time it bored me to tears, but now that I’m older and (comparatively) wiser I can draw on what I learned and appreciate things like this and the fantastic amount of work and dedication that goes into them.

  • @CHICOB4261
    @CHICOB4261 Год назад

    I’m starting to feel like the “ball in the proverbial weeds” Keith you make this sound like any guy could do this as easy as changing a light bulb.

  • @jtrent3960
    @jtrent3960 Год назад

    Keith is the best on YT for manual threading hand down

  • @waynephillips2777
    @waynephillips2777 Год назад +1

    Can't wait to see you cutting plastic!

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Год назад

    KEITH, LOOKS GOOD I'M READY, GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU WHEN...

  • @jasonh3109
    @jasonh3109 Год назад

    What an awesome machine!!!! Thanks for the video Keith. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @robjchristopher
    @robjchristopher Год назад +2

    Super interesting to see you get to this stage - really looking forward to the test run and the finished product!

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 Год назад

    Amazing that this technology has become available to folks that can tell the rest of us how it worked. Today, this would all be proprietary information and would not be shown to us common folks. Thanks.

  • @ccrider5398
    @ccrider5398 Год назад

    Hopefully you'll video some of the practice? I enjoy seeing plastics machined.

  • @chuckmayerchak3071
    @chuckmayerchak3071 Год назад +2

    Look forward to all your videos. This series has been especially interesting for sure. This setup brings new meaning to the words "mill set up" You should set a vise up on that table for good measure.

  • @geargnasher9822
    @geargnasher9822 Год назад

    The mind boggles. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.

  • @TheAyrCaveShop
    @TheAyrCaveShop Год назад

    Almost there Keith ! A lot of work getting everything setup.. Absolutely with you on running a few test pieces. See you next episode...
    Thanks...Dean

  • @jimhunt5259
    @jimhunt5259 Год назад +3

    Keith I think your just teasing your never going to cut that gear!! hahaha ; - )

  • @geraldharkness8830
    @geraldharkness8830 Год назад +2

    your keeping our attention here keith! just cannot wait to see you cutting on the plastic blank/thank yo so much!

  • @nobuckle40
    @nobuckle40 Год назад +3

    This has been so cool to see. I've learned a lot. Thank you Keith.

  • @jameskaufmann7424
    @jameskaufmann7424 Год назад

    You and your machines are amazing!

  • @buckburton7318
    @buckburton7318 Год назад

    I have watched a lot of your videos over a period of several years, so far this just might be # 1. Good job, I will anxiously await the next segment.

  • @timmienorrie
    @timmienorrie Год назад

    Loving every episode of this series.

  • @melshea2276
    @melshea2276 Год назад +2

    Good Morning!😊

  • @thewarlordscalling6537
    @thewarlordscalling6537 Год назад

    Thanks Keith.

  • @thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180

    Really enjoying this video series Keith, thanks!

  • @MrChevelle83
    @MrChevelle83 Год назад +1

    you knew better than to break tradition without facing first!! LOL fine work Keith, and what an awesome setup to cut that gear!!

  • @noberet
    @noberet Год назад

    Every day is arbor day on Keith's channel!

  • @johnhiggins9838
    @johnhiggins9838 Год назад +2

    Great video & results!

  • @jimmymac15
    @jimmymac15 Год назад +1

    Great presentation

  • @Paul-FrancisB
    @Paul-FrancisB Год назад +1

    Good morning everyone, time for a coffee ☕

  • @geneard639
    @geneard639 Год назад

    Welcome to the next level! You have selected, 'Expert Level'. ...I can't wait for the next exciting episode!

  • @mrfarmall-vk4gw
    @mrfarmall-vk4gw Год назад

    Can't wait to see this all in action, nice job👍

  • @chadgdry3938
    @chadgdry3938 Год назад

    that is an amazing tool. Thanks for showing it to us

  • @phlodel
    @phlodel Год назад

    I am really looking forward to seeing this setup work.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @wrstew1272
    @wrstew1272 Год назад +1

    Hopefully the “ client “ isn’t paying setup time for the gear, cause it would be quite expensive! Now you know that I am kidding, eh? The series of what you went through in order to cut a practice has been quite informative. Most of what you record is off the beaten path, old school how to figure out teaching, for which I really appreciate. Can’t wait to see the finished gear. You could show it installed and meshing correctly in a follow up provided the end user is half the quality of mechanic as you are a machinist!

  • @markmonroe7330
    @markmonroe7330 Год назад

    Excellent video. Many thanks,

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung Год назад

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 Год назад

    Great video Keith, keep'um coming..

  • @fredcreer1929
    @fredcreer1929 Год назад

    What no chips!.
    That’s a mental anguish claim, right there.
    After all that a practice is the only way to go. Great work.

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney4097 Год назад

    Wow Keith, this makes my head spin but very interesting.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnleake708
    @johnleake708 Год назад

    thanks for sharing with us I know it takes alot of time to film and narrate the video.

  • @SgtCude59
    @SgtCude59 Год назад

    Another great video . I never got to use the gear box on the end of table place I worked at didn’t have it 😢 I’m excited to see all this working together keep up the good work.

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578

    Thanks for sharing interesting

  • @madjack3314
    @madjack3314 Год назад +1

    Looks like you got it. Thanks

  • @randyjones9188
    @randyjones9188 Год назад

    Keith, when I make stub shaft arbors I put in a woodruff key instead of a short key they stay in place better..

  • @currentbatches6205
    @currentbatches6205 Год назад

    15:52 and 16:10 - Hope the overages balance out.
    17:47 - Keith learns the difference between radius and diameter!

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed👍👀

  • @williamdavis7094
    @williamdavis7094 Год назад

    thank you I really appreciate it

  • @Boyracer73
    @Boyracer73 Год назад

    This is relevant to my interests 😊

  • @garymucher4082
    @garymucher4082 Год назад +1

    No better words than making a dummy gear black and practice. If you are anything like me, I'd make a few practice plastic gear blanks. But that is the common sense idea to do first... Thumbs Up!

  • @YZoxK52m
    @YZoxK52m Год назад

    Once this gear is done it would be fun to see it installed and maybe running in the antique car

  • @railfan439
    @railfan439 Год назад

    Tune in again for the next thrilling episode of, AS THE GEAR TURNS. Sounds like a Saturday morning children's show. Remember Big John and Sparky? Commander Cody and Cadet Happy? Now we have Keith Rucker and Kerney Trecker to keep us kiddies entertained. Thanks for the video. See you at the Bar-Z. Jon

  • @natwooding9394
    @natwooding9394 Год назад

    Now that you are (hopefully) set up to do operations like this, it will be interesting to see how many more similar projects come to your door.

  • @johnfriend240
    @johnfriend240 Год назад +1

    Eye opener for guys that think gears are too expensive! Don't forget the gear keyway orientation to the gear teeth, as the camshaft to key orientation is already established.

  • @Dudleymiddleton
    @Dudleymiddleton Год назад

    Yes - very wise to do a dummy run with plastic. Tom Lipton has a video called "dogmeat helical milling" where he uses a stepper motor to do the lead attachment bit - a bit higher tech alternative I suppose - but nothing beats the old school way!

  • @scottvolage1752
    @scottvolage1752 Год назад +2

    Good Morning Folks.

  • @aserta
    @aserta Год назад

    24:11 An achievement picture. Lots of work had to be done to reach this, parts hunting, parts making. Great moment.

  • @ianbutler1983
    @ianbutler1983 Год назад +5

    I have cut threads on a lathe and watched it dozens of times, but it still fascinates me.

  • @WilliamTMusil
    @WilliamTMusil Год назад

    Hiya Keith

  • @JasDarc
    @JasDarc Год назад

    So much manufacturing tech is now computer driven, great to see a man and machine approach is still viable. There may well come a time in the not-so-distant future when these dying skills are needed by humankind.

  • @ydonl
    @ydonl Год назад

    Testing is good.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Год назад

    It's a process...🙂Interesting stuff... :-)

  • @phillipyannone3195
    @phillipyannone3195 Год назад

    Almost there…😊

  • @john2256
    @john2256 Год назад +1

    You might make more than 1 gear to sell and pay for everything. Good job!

  • @adrianstephens56
    @adrianstephens56 Год назад +1

    Nice work. Love the precision the DRO gives. I notice the threads appeared to have chatter in them. Does this matter? In fact, could it be a good thing?

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 Год назад

    When it's all together like this, this setup looks beautiful.
    The geometry is no longer only in your mind, you can actually see it.
    So my one question is, why not a Woodruff Key to drive the cutter?

  • @98grand5point9
    @98grand5point9 Год назад +1

    Very interesting content. I'm confused though. Won't the teeth be curved? I've only seen these types of gears cut with a fly cutter in other videos.

  • @geckoproductions4128
    @geckoproductions4128 Год назад

    you're just showing off your 4-jaw scroll chuck!

  • @MHolt3573
    @MHolt3573 Год назад

    Was that a Snap On wrench I seen. I thought you was old school Craftsman tool guy.

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow5312 Год назад

    Good idea, practice makes perfect. :o)

  • @michaelwade9348
    @michaelwade9348 Год назад

    Alot of steps for one process...who knew!

  • @metrovick5417
    @metrovick5417 Год назад +2

    Really enjoying this, always wondered how gears are done. One thing: How do you centre the cutter on the work?

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Год назад

      That’s what I’ve been wondering. The cutter and gear are at 45 degrees with each so it will be interesting to see how that’s done.

  • @larrycleeton
    @larrycleeton Год назад

    I really appreciate the complicated setup and adapters needed for doing this old school. Seems appropriate for a restoration part. What kind of modern machine could knock this out easily? A 4 axis mill?

    • @TheJohndeere466
      @TheJohndeere466 Год назад

      Gear hobber, 20 minute job. This is my barber colman #12 gear hobber
      ruclips.net/video/d3fFn2LsS0s/видео.html

  • @TheJohndeere466
    @TheJohndeere466 Год назад

    According to the numbers on your digital readout, you made the diameter of that arbor .020 too small. 1.250 + .500 for the diameter of the edge finder is 1.750. You were getting 1.730. If that arbor is too small it will cause the gear cutter to run out and If that gear cutter runs out, it will do all the cutting with only one tooth.

  • @Richard-hm2pj
    @Richard-hm2pj Год назад +3

    Just exactly how much are you charging for this car part? If it’s less than $5000, you are cheating yourself considering the time and effort I have seen you put in. Well done, you don’t give up easily.

  • @ericpaul4575
    @ericpaul4575 Год назад

    14:40 Wow, there is a lot of chatter on the threads that were cut. I wonder if there is excess play in the spindle bearings on the lathe.