TESTING THE SELF DEFENSE LIONSTEEL & EMERSON L.E 1 IN MAGNACUT
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- LIONSTEEL EMERSON LE1 KARAMBIT IN MAGNACUT STEEL WITH REMOVABLE FLIPPER TAB AND WAVE FEATURE, IN THIS FIRST IMPRESSIONS VIDEO I TEST THE HAWKBILL BLADE, WAVE FEATURE AND MORE. THIS IS CONSIDERED A SELF DEFENSE TOOL FOR EDC.
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One of the coolest karambits I've seen. I'd really like to get one.
Now, about the wave feature and how to grab it, that you mentioned at around 2:30. The ideal way for waving karambits is to switch the clip to the other side, as for lefties, but you still use it on your right pocket, ring up. Instead of waving it back, as a straight knife, you wave it forward, to catch the front part of your pocket.
This way, you put your index on the ring, wave it forward, and you end up with a very secure karambit grip, no need to reposition your hand.
That is exactly what I was going to say, the knife is made to be used in the reverse grip.
Yeah someone else mentioned that as well, and since I read it I have tried it thank you for the information and help, 🙏
I have the spyderco karambit and it took me a while to get use to deploying it from the front of the pocket. But it works fantastic.
Exactly, I carry my firearm on my right side.
Thanks so much for this review. I just ordered one in black aluminum! I thought about the red, but the ring will stand out more in my pocket. I would love to see some testing of this knife!
I read the comments and it seems to be a very popular knife… which completely baffles me. Especially from a self defense perspective.
I really don’t mean any disrespect, but (to me) knives like this look just like all the cheap China options I see at the truck stop. I always wonder, “who the hell carries something like that?”
I admit I bought a Gil Hibben knife when I was young. Maybe I’ve just aged out of such things. I get to keep my money in my pocket on this one lol.
To each their own, they are not my style either but I try to review for everyone
Rifle, 12gauge shotgun receivers and many many pistol frames are made of aluminum man. Aluminum is plenty strong for a knife.
True. Plenty strong, but knife enthusiasts used to spending $200 on a knife have come to expect titanium
@@dauntsix7826 yeah but for the savings it provides, well done aluminum is a great option. Like I love the Lionsteel Mito but I’m not keen on spending $350 for the titanium one. The have the aluminum versions now for like half that price.
We can live without it.
@@dauntsix7826 as they shd.
@@dauntsix7826 i prefer titanum but 7 series aluminum is lighter
Gods it’s uglier than a mud fence… not cause it’s an Emerson just all karambits are even my WE Insisor
Well! Sometimes Mike ya know it's that it isn't what it is but yeah 😆 🤣
3:09
This
This is gold
Do this for every knife review
Tell us if the knife if middle finger flickable left handed and if you can deploy it with pressure on the lockbar.
We (lefties) will appreciate it.
Hey man I have a trick for deploying wave karambits without having to reposition your grip so that you're already in the reverse grip. So, I'm going to try and explain this as good as possible.. if you are right handed, change the pocket clip to the left handed carry side but still keeping it in your right pocket, then once you've done that and you go to put it in your pocket ,the curve of the handle should be curving toward the front of your body, basically it will be sitting in your pocket backwards from what you're normally used to and instead of pulling towards the rear of your pocket, you're going to pull toward the front and because the knife is backwards ,you will already be grabbing it in the reverse grip, it's 2 times faster when deploying. I learned this because I'm left handed and I had to use alot of karambits that weren't milled out to switch the pocket clip to the other side so in my case I had to keep the clip on the right handed carry side but I put it in my left pocket. It works, give it a try and if I explained this in such a way where it's hard to understandI apologize ,it's kind of hard to express but much easier to show in person or with a video.
And one last thing, do not grab it on the normal grip with your little finger in the ring. Never!
I love your reviews but bro no disrespect, you have no idea how to use a karambit. When it deploys from the pocket you're holding it upside down. It's setup for left hand deployment, switch the clip to the other side and you'll like it more.
No I'm right handed not left handed so I won't like it more, and that has nothing to do with using a Karambit that's just carrying left handed
@@NeevesKnives the karambit on the video has the deploy clip setup for left handed deployment. Put the clip on the other side to deploy right handed. They deploy tip down not tip up
@@DustinLikesJiujitsu oh I'm sorry I thought you meant flip to my other pocket, my apologies I will definitely try it out, doesn't seem the wave feature will work that way but I will try it out. I'm definitely not a Karambit pro but I'm always willing to learn
MagnaCut it the best steel in the world as far as blades go. It baffles me when manufactures use anything but MagnaCut. It’s literally the best steel on the market bar none. End of story.
I'm not very familiar with it. What makes it so good?
@@dauntsix7826 it’s a super steel that is extremely strong while not being brittle. It takes the best edge you can possibly get with metal while having the best edge retention of any steel imo. It also has the ability to have an hrc of 64.5 here a link to everything you could want to know nsm-ny.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/CPM-MagnaCut-datasheet15.pdf
it is still early for magna cut and industries can't pivot on a dime when it comes to new materials and designs. usually it takes a couple of years to get it down especially if they do an in-house heat treatment
@@The_AntiVillain crucible literally has everything any company could want in regard to heat treats. Heat treats arnt special it’s a known science. Guess you didn’t look at the link I posted in the comment above. Plus they will provide the steel to anyone who asks. Crucible is miles ahead of anyone else in the business. Magna cut is top dog as of now and will be for probably a really long time. I don’t see it getting any better any time soon. It’s relatively cheap anti corrosive not brittle has extreme hardness takes the best edge possible and has the best edge retention in the market as of right now. The fact anyone goes back and forth is silly. MagnaCut is the best of the best. End of story.
Too short of a blade for SD. That ring is also silly .This is just a fidget / edc knife
MagnaCut is the best blade steel on the market at the moment. But I don’t understand this knife at all. Rather have a fixed blade dagger for self defense. None of that goofy swinging and useless techniques that are necessary when using karambit come with a dagger. With a dagger its stab stab stab. That’s it. None of that goofyness like what you did with the bit with the t shirt. Get real and stop falling for gimmicks. Dagger and a gun are the only two things you should trust your life with. Not a karambit and goofy moves. Plus a dagger allows you to keep a little more distance and allows you to inflict more damage at the same distance.
I agree
NOPE> COOL , BUT ,,, as a grateful survivor ... of 1 knife fight, ....no, i would NOT choose this (over so MANY of Neeve's reviewed knives,) AND I own a couple that are similar to this one ; karambits. (Crkt Provoke, etc).
TBH, it DOES have the ''sportscar coolness'' factor, but TO A KNIFE FIGHT, where you only get one shot at staying alive, and seconds to draw first blood ,,,, I would sooner carry my new Samson, .... or one of my high end tactical quality Spydercos, one has a nice rough handle which is still grippy when 'wet', but I am open minded open to hear any counters to my opinions also, I will say this LIONSTEEL IS quality, and I have had good past experiences with aluminum, and I would like to see more 'fighting knives/exotic knives' Neeves reviews !
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I purchased ONE!!! Red Alum w/Black Blade. My last Karambit Folder was KaraHawk, after that I have been very choosy on the next one. This one did it for me… please a full-review will be much appreciated. Thanks!!!
There are 3 people qualified to use a karambit, two of them are Doug Marcaida clearly from this video Jared isn't number 3, lol. Tbh I hated the Karambit fad. It's a highly specialized tool requiring a lot of training. Just get a Yojimbo... if you're a Pentjak Silat Master disregard what I said and get one of these. Knife fighting has somesimple rules:
1. Don't.
2. Carry a gun.
3. The loser of a knife fight dies on the floor, the winner usually dies in the ambulance...
Final thoughts; a stupid knife for stupid people. (Unless you're Doug of course).
I agree to some extent 😆 I do think a regular blade is going to serve most people better. I definitely don't have a lot of Karambit skills, but I'm still good with a knife and that's a start, and I've been in a lot of situations so I think I'm above average at least
Don't carry something for self defense without training, knife, gun, club, baton, Taser etc they all require training. Self defense is a verb
At my age, 60,s I used to collect at army surplus, dad taught me a lot, I am out of your leauge and Mikes, thanks for info, though. To be honest, you young guys are smart.
Very posh just a little bit too long on the handle for me or it would be perfect for a bit of Dummy dicing.. hope all is well brother have a beautiful day J/K stay safe and healthy both😘👍🏼
Flip the clip and carry it in the rear pocket. Perfect reverse grip for defensive use!
Got it 👊
Well, it definitely would not be my first choice for a self-defense pointy-stabby. 🤷♂️
BangganG!
yea man, i carry tanto + stilletto blades on my person , I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN def. not my 1st choice ! , thanks > tom !
I love this knife,; it's so out of left.field for LionSteel. Love.the flipper, hole and wave deployment, ruthless and awesome shape for a karambit; love the integral frame, color choices, coated blade options, and the substantial retention ring. And of all blades to run in Magnacut, this is just the most badass and unexpected option. The price is solid, blade size is generous for a karambit. I am so drawn to it, but I know LionSteel's track record for HRC and heat treats. I don't want to spend much more on Magnqcut outside of ideal parameters. I totally missed the ball on the RSK Magnacut Sprint Run, and they specifically shot for 63+. In this application, it is not as much of a bummer, but an XHP, S35VN, 154CM, good D2,.S90V blade, which I have karambits in, could just as well have been used. It's more in line with an s35vn blade when run at 59-60. I love the design, but you can only afford so many, and I definitely would love to see a good size tactical blade in optimum HRC/heat treat like the Ritter RSK CF Knifeworks sprint. I would really like to just see M390 and analogs, 154CM, S35VN, CPM-M4, 14C, and so on be hitting the ideal mark, and aiming for it. It would not require a major shift in difficulty; instructions and results desired are clearly documented. Would love to see a DLC/Cerakote finish option on a K390 blade, as an aside. It sucks that some excellent.models fall flat to insistance from companies deciding that low and unpotentiated bladesteel is ideal for the end user, despite the consumers blatantly and forever stating otherwise. Hopefully some Chinese friends will start using Magnacut optimally.
By the way, have you got your hands on any M398 or the Maxace Killer Whale 2.0 in ASP60? The TwoSun TS306 is kicking all manner of ass in M398. ASP60 is so scarcely used for blades, but it is up there for highest edge retention contenders. The KW 2.0 is just a top notch model itself. Would love any thoughts, and YES, TESTING!!! Much love, bro
Thanks for the review Jared. Not for me. Looks like a knife you’d see on late night tv sticking out of a log. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Agree
Times is hard, Thanks for your views, your opinions don't cost a dime, an really help, just saying,
I think an interesting argument for karambits is the versatility of strikes. With a regular knife you have forawrd, diagonal, and horizontal; meanwhile, a karambit just goes anywhere you throw it and still retains the possibility of a forward strike/sweep. Your video really helped me see that and the emerson feature of course makes the karambit the fastest draw of any knife. (but let's not kid ourselves walking around you already have it drawn if you feel unsafe and its nighttime)
Great video!
I can't imagine not being able to figure out how to deploy a karambit with the Emerson wave in a reverse grip. Don't listen to this guy. You absolutely CAN deploy it in reverse grip without "ONLY having the ring". The design is LITERALLY made to do that. This guy? Buddy, some mobility exercises might help. It's not rocket science to figure out how to deploy it effectively.
I truly wish people wouldn't try to review weapons they don't know how to use. Doing reviews JUST to do reviews is not helping anyone except yourself.
I just wish it wasn't so UGLY. I mean...let's address the elephant in the room here(pun intended). It's probably the ugliest karambit you can buy.
Great review thanks, do you still have it? Would like to know what you think after a year or so. I've heard of a few problems with the detent/pivot etc? Thanks. 👍
Where is Kara?
Making a video for you guys
@@NeevesKnives great what's the name of it
That isn't a 'self defense' knife. It's a meme. That 'ring' is its weakness. My 43 year old Buck 121 or even my kitchen knife would be preferable. My Stitch leagues more. I have the scars and years to inform me. Rather know how to play the piano. YMMV.
Looks very similar to Fox Knives karambit with a few different features.
Ouch!! This toad stabber will ruin an attacking perp’s
day!
Ihuuuu Nice job ,parabéns 😃👏
This is a 7075 series aluminum. It not as strong as some Titanium grades for the same weight but it is still pretty good.
Ohhh this one is so cute, it's been on my wishlist first time i saw it. Kinda pricey but looks well made. Probably gonna buy it. Emerson wave is a must have on folding karambits, without it, they don't make any sense, or not much :)
this and the Incisor 2 look a lot a like. i carry my incisor 2 in back pocket with the clip on the show(?) side
Feel like Magnacut is a waste in this blade if it's for defense 14c28n would be plenty edge retention
True
On point. Bastinelli is using a lot N690.
How does this compare to the Emerson super Karambit?
Nice! I asked metal complex to review these but I don’t think he likes tactical stuff lol
No he probably just doesn't like the thousand comments telling him he's doing something wrong, which is a guarantee with these videos even if you didn't do anything wrong
That looks awesome. Definitely wanna see a test. And maybe even a quick tune up since it’s an odd blade shape and requires some different skills
YEAH I WOULD DEF HAVE TO TAKE A COUPLE WEEKS OF TRAINING AS I HAVENT REALLY CARRIED A KARAMBIT LONG ENOUGH , BUT I IMAGINE I WOULD CATCH ON PRETTY QUICKLY
Its meant for reverse grip deployment
Phone ruined the video
Or it wanted to be apart of the video
What do you think of Emerson knives?
Used to hang on an Ilsland, native, scared as shit,
Cool. I prefer my super beefy monkeys fist but frankly that thing is cool I like it more than the fox knives at least.
Why is that knife so big 😂😂
What is the best $200 or less fidget karambit that isn't gravity? Fox 599? This Lionsteel? Karahawk? Anyone got suggestion for an awesome fidget karambit?
Hmm. Bearings or washers?
Your fingers are yellow
the clip is on the wrong side
You should maybe spend some time learning about materials, will help your channel.
What does that mean? About what materials?
Got that one in black with a coated blade and it is a amazing knife.
The bigger blade also gives you a good option for the normal blade forward carry. I have a XL sized hand and it has the perfect size for my hands.
I’ve had this knife for a few months now. I’ve never had to use it for self defense (thankfully), but there are a few things I’d like to add to this video. First, you can actually top flick the knife open. It doesn’t really work all that well, but it’s still pretty cool. Second, the frame lock is really stiff (on mine, at least). It tends to hurt your thumb a bit if you open and close it a lot. Third, you can deploy it without needing to change your grip if you pull the ring with your pinky finger and keep the rest of your fingers open. Just pull up and back and then close your fingers when you clear the pocket. Fourth, the finish on the pocket clip is the same as the blade. If you get a black blade you will get a black clip. All of the other hardware is either beadblasted or tumbled, it’s kind of hard to tell, but it’s that silky steel color you see in the video. Fifth, magnacut is kinda overkill for a self defense knife. It’s a great steel, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not like you need that edge retention for a knife that’s realistically only going to be cutting through a couple feet of meat or opening boxes every once and a while doesn’t need it. Hope this helps! I’ll edit if I encounter or remember anything else.
Could I ask you sir, what Magnacut blade have you found that has an hrc 65? Or is there no such production knife and possibly the one you were speaking of is a custom?
Also, could you do a video of yourself sharpening a Karambit? I’m probably not the only guy that wants to see that. ✌️
Right index finger from inside, pull backwards on wave, straighten wrist to front to present on traditional Karambit grip. Thanks for another defensive knife review! Trending... 😁👍🗡️
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I’ve heard it’s run on 63+ heat treatment. Did you hear anything, recently about it? Be nice if you can do a longterm review & comparisons? Btw, I actually deploy it forward from pocket, allowing for direct reverse-grip, w/o adjust grip…
Karamba Karambit. !! Looks like a modified Toucan mate. Cowabunga matey.
Lee 0⁰
Bang
Just ordered one of these for just over 100 bucks. Had 61 dollars worth of points with DLT and they had it on sale for about 160. I love my Emersons and have always wanted to try something from Lionsteel, plus this looks like the new king of folding Karambits to me so this should be a fun blade!
Nice presentation! One thing about karambits with the wave feature, if you wanna get the best out of this knife, you better train to deploy it always edge out. This way not only the knife is at the ready immediately but you get the best grip too.
I'm kinda interested in getting one of these myself but I'd have to sell my other karambits 1st.
Also you didn't mention if it was running on bearings or washers
I bought a comfortable little Kershaw from Walmart but the blade steel was so bad. Bought the 3" CJRB with the D2 steel because of your video. Very happy so far thanks a bunch. Love watching your videos and all those amazing knives.
I feel like they will come out with Ti version, like they did with the Thrill. I enjoy the shape of the thumb hole. Handle seems a bit large (for a karambit.)
My clip popped out and it won't come back in lol
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R.I.P. old blue shirt, you were a good shirt.
I liked the usage demonstrations in the video. Thank you
this looks like something Red Hood would use, very cool look
Grip it, rip it or flip it nice Karambit good video
Mine was so stiff at the deployment that I removed the Flipper and when used the Emerson Wave from My pocket, the screws blew up everywhere. I felt very dissapointed but for a piece of magnacut steel, I think I'll preserve the blade and will seek for making a custom handle for it.
That sucks mine was pretty smooth, however I wish the steel was harder
you know you should just get a hrc tester.. with all this talk about hrc in the community let's dimple the blades in reviews so nothing is left to guessing.. i would love to see every blade tested and all bs called out
I agree, one of these days I might, there has been a ton of testing already so we can go off of history to some extent
Thank you, the red looks really good.
Definitely a gas station knife imo
Test that steel, come on down!
Yes please test this i like this knife 😁
Lionsteel always makes clean designs but I can never get behind them because of the soft steel history
Understandable
Mine arrived today. I would like to see a full test. Yes it is a figet knife as well. Nicely excepted design.
executed not excepted.
Did you say it was on washers or bearings? Looks a lot smoother than those fox ones.
It's on bearings
Tare briceag
Just got mine last week!
hey jman, as a u.s. marine vet here that carries e.d.c. knives , i do not like these beucause of they are not tanto's with serration on blade , + i do not really know how to properly use them either , real gem though here , cool vid though , keep em coming , thanks > tom !
The lionsteel M4 has been my favorite fixed blade for years now.
All these self-defense knives seem to serve more of a fantasy than real life use. Honestly I think the majority of people who really use these on other people are likely the ones you need to defend against. Plus legally, you're far better off using a gun for defense than a knife. A gun is kind of passive; I squeeze the trigger here, you fall down there. A knife? You need to be up close an personal, it takes much more intent. It's harder to explain than a gun.
My brother's friend has been Boston cop for years told me "better a gun then a knife, and better shoot to kill than shoot to wound."
Of course, but not everyone can carry a gun, and in some cases it might not be the best option, everyone wants the best thing but sometimes having different tools allows atleast for options
@@SimonRiley115 😆 🤣 he's innocent but I'm sure the donations helped, you know what they say, you'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
@@SimonRiley115 I agree he shouldn’t have even been charged. It’s a farce that Baldwin hasn’t been charged for a crime. Any normal person would be rotting right now.
@@SimonRiley115 I think he's obviously traumatized but he also has a massive amount of support. I think he's going to be just fine.
I tested 2 of them, one 63 HRC - The other one 63.6 HRC. I would have liked 61/62 HRC better for the application the knife is made for. Nevertheless, very cool knife, like it a lot. I would like to add, lionsteel is a bit inconsistent, not only in heat treatment as well in their flipping mechanism, some are smooth and others not so much.
It’s a Karambit. You draw it in a traditional reverse grip. Index in ring. The clip is on the wrong side and also liner locks suck on defensive blades. Spyderco Karahawk is where it’s at for a folding defense karambit
This isn't a liner lock. It's a frame lock.
@@AN-re7vi a frame lock is simply a slightly stronger liner lock. Still an inferior lock.
@@davidsayegh1806 I never said anything regarding which locking system is better. I was just pointing out how you called it a liner lock, which would be incorrect.