This is really my first time actually hearing Mary sing and idk why ppl are saying she couldn’t sing. Her voice was golden. She could have definitely sang some leads.
Those who were not leads of the group are always downplayed. Mary had a nice voice and probably would've fared well in a group with more soulful songs.
Mary went through three different stages as a lead singer: The Diana Ross Era (1962-1970): She had a low, smokey range which stood in contrast to her fellow members Diana Ross, Florence Ballard and Cindy Birdsong. It was solid voice but was still a work in progress The Jean Terrell Era (1970-1973): Mary's voice was now more mature and had an added sultry layer to it. Her confidence as a lead singer was building up as she was given more solos to do The Scherrie Payne Era (1973-1977): This is where Mary finally emerged as a fully-fledged leading vocalist. Her voice is at its peak and she's able to show both her vocal range and her versatility as a singer. This is reflected in the material that's she given and she raises to the occasion.
I had the pleasure and privilege of seeing Ms. Wilson perform in Detroit in 2012. It was such a wonderful show! I took my mom, who joined other audience members in performing “Stop in the Name of Love“ with the Supreme legend.
@@cravendubose3024 In order to have solo hits, she would have to have been pushed by Motown. It’s unfortunately not as simple as having talent. Diana Ross was the prime focus of the Supremes, so she was always chosen for lead. They didn’t care for Mary or Flo’s talent.
@@cravendubose3024 By the time The Supremes disbanded, Motown had long given up on the group (even though they had several million-selling international hits) and Mary was literally keeping it alive on her own will and passion for it. Despite numerous lineup changes, the last lineup with Scherrie Payne and Susaye Greene released their last top 40 - I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do the Walking - from the album High Energy (1976), which was one of the group's best charting albums in the 70s. However, their next and last album a few months later failed to chart on Billboard. The group disbanded in 1977 and they released solo projects in 1979. Mary's self-titled debut album and single "Red Hot" both hit the R&B charts but didn't make much impact. She was working on a second album at Motown, which as uncompleted and shelved but has since been released along with her first solo album on the Mary Wilson: Motown Anthology. Mary's second album Walk the Line was released by CEO Records in 1992 but the label went bust shortly after. More recently, Mary scored her biggest Billboard hit with a top 20 on the Dance Club Songs chart with "Time To Move On" in 2016. She revealed a few days before her death she was working on new music and re-releasing her first album along with unreleased tracks.
Slaychelle this was brilliantly done!!!! I can only imagine if Berry would have put the money, the grooming, and Motown machine behind Mary like he did Diana, she would have been a super star. Her voice is stronger, sexier, richer, and has a lot more character and honesty than Diana's, and she was by far the most naturally beautiful!......Rest in Paradise Miss Wilson.
He wasnt fucking Mary like he was fucking Diane. They say Aries are go getters, well this is a prime example of one go getter Aries, but damn did she have to run over everybody to get to the top? What about Florence, Mary & Cindy? Just maybe they wanted to get to the top too. You're not in this world all by yourself, well maybe now that Florence & Mary are deceased & Cindy is on her last leg, I guess she is still alive but never coming back to the stage again. Miss Ross, I hope you are happy now, all your competition are all gone. Enjoy the rest of your tenure here, & happy fucking birthday Fruday 3/26, 77 y.o. Too bad Mary couldnt live to see her 77th birthday. 3/6/44-2/8/21. Twenty six days short of her birthday.
@@davidbetsey2437 Diana was indeed an Aries go-getter, but that her success came at the expense of the other Supremes, I attribute to Berry. Berry was nearly fifteen years older than the Supremes and the boss. I think he could have done a lot to maintain harmony in the group if he had simply made sure that Mary and Florence, and later Cindy, had solo spots in every show. Mary said in her books that she and Florence were both happy with all of the hits they had with Diana as lead. I believe her, because even singing background in a group as huge as The Supremes still meant you were very much on top. But giving Mary and Florence chances to lead on album cuts and in live appearances would have made a huge impact on group morale. But Berry was the boss and expected everybody to fall in line, and the story of The Supremes that we know was the result.
Thank you for putting this together. I love Mary's beautiful vocals. Her voice is sultry, sexy, and, at times, playful. She was always classy and gracious.
Thank You so much for showcasing most of Mary's best leads with the Supremes! This video brought back some great memories and truly made me smile. RIP Mary! WE MISS YOU!
Thank you very much! I’ve been waiting for this video ever since you posted The Original Supremes Vocal Battle! Amazing work on your part once again. I know Mary would love this video too. I’m still in shock and very sad that this beautiful, talented woman is no longer with us. Thanks again 🥰
Wow ! I never knew Ms fine & Gorgeous Mary Wilson sang lead on so many ballets. She sounds beautiful beautiful. They all had impeccable styles. Diana had a little more showmanship. Barry Gordy push her out front when she became his woman I guess. Still they were the Queens of Motown 's music. Loved me some Mary Wilson ❤😢 🙏 RIP
She had such a beautiful voice, no wonder they had a brilliant succesdful blend and wonderful mega hits. Rest in Eternal Peace Nubian Supreme Queen! 🧡U Heavenly😇.
Congratulations! There is one song missing, though: "What Do You Have to Do (To Stay on the Right Side of Love)" with Four Tops in album "The Return of the Magnificent Seven". It is a brief but beautiful lead. There is another version of "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" from the album "Motown at the Hollywood Palace" and a version of "Where Do I Go", singing lead with Cindy Birsong; and in her posthumous Motown compilation there is a longer version of "Automatically Sunshine" with additional lyrics. By the way, once Susaye Greene called to my attention that she sings harmony with Mary in "We Should Be Closer Together."
@@bosskat57There were so many great songs from the Promises Kept sessions: Tears Left Over, Still Water, Take Your Dreams Back...shame they weren’t released at the time
That sultry sexy voice. Mary brought a class and sophistication to her vocals. Gordy really should've allowed Mary and Flo more opportunities to take the lead on at least one track each on every Supremes album. It would've broadened the groups appeal and their repertoire. Diana's voice is distinctive but on many album cuts it doesn't suit the arrangement- too harsh and piercing- so many of those tracks would've been so much better with Mary or Flo. The group would also have been taken far more seriously by music critics if all 3 contributed more to the sound.
IMO Lyric Mezzo. Her voice seemed to get even richer and bolder in the 80s/90s - she has Tina Turner-esque belts on her solo song "One Night With You".
She was a contralto. She sang the bottom note. Female contraltos are most commonly called tenors. Mezzo sopranos are altos that can hit soprano notes Hence mezzo meaning middle, being the voice type in the middle, higher than tenor, lower than soprano.
@DeVante Cooley I agree with you, but I have to add that with Mary as lead, The Supremes would have sounded very similar to The Marvelettes. Berry wasn't looking for a copycat group, and placing Diana in the lead gave the Supremes a very unique and never-to-be-duplicated sound.
MS ROSS voice not suited to background vocals...MARY really comes into her own on the extended version of HE'S MY MAN ..this track was very popular in NYC gay bars 1975/6
Mary Wilson had nice voice. I think Berry Gordy should have let her and Florence Ballard have more leads on their Albums. Diana Ross had the most commercial voice and made them successful but it would have been nice if all 3 contribute to the group's sound.
What an amazing voice if it wasn't for very Gordy Diana wouldn't have gotten as far as she did don't get me wrong I love her she was one of my favorites but we all know but very Gordy had a lot to do with it but sometimes that's just the way it is she was blessed but so for the other girls they just didn't get in with Berry Gordy either way Diana Ross did as everybody knows what I'm talking about but I love you Diana Ross you are a clean also
@@wonderboyjoy This debate is so tiring...for the record Mary did have Supremes hits with her lead vocals...Floy Joy was a top 20 US million seller for instance...it was also top 10 in the UK along with Automatically Sunshine, despite decreasing support from Motown.
So much of what has come out since MW passed is that it was motivated by $ and the “sound” he was looking for. They went for the good instead of equity and broadness of style. Flo, with a bit more time and nurturing, would have evolved into an Ella or Sarah. When you listen to the early stuff, pre “Let me go the right way “ and “When the lovelight....” their sound was generic, indistinguishable and unimpressive. The combo of H-D-H and Diana as lead gave them their “niche sound” it unfolded as a perfect storm, to move Flo out. Still so sad about that. Grateful for their music. As you listen to again, so timeless and evocative. ❤️❤️❤️. RIP FB, MW,
I think it was so unfair and cruel how Mary and Florence were treated in that group. I heard in an interview how at one point, they were told they were no longer going to be allowed to sing leads anymore. All of the main leads were given to Diane when she was pushed to the front. In my opinion Mary and Florence had better singing voices than Diane!!! Rest in Heaven, Queen Mary!!!💜🕊👑🎶🌹🎤😇❤
Mary and Flo have no #1 hits singing lead, it was only when Diana became a lead singer that they started having #1 hits, if Mary was so talented big record labels could have been chasing after her after she left the Supremes.
@@5thdimensio284 but people always seem to leave out that when Diana was made the official lead, Berry also at the same time assigned his #1 hit-making team of HDH to the Supremes. The fans always seem to leave that out, or maybe they're just ignorant to that fact. But, it was then that the hits started topping the charts until around mid-1967 when HDH left Motown and started their own record company, Invictus. All of a sudden the Supremes with Diana on lead stopped hitting the top of the charts as frequently. Instead, acts like Freda Payne, Honey Cone, and Chairman of the Board were now taking HDH songs to the top of the charts, not Diana and the Andantes or whoever. I said all that to say; who knows what would have happened had HDH been assigned to write songs for a Flo or Mary at the beginning of their assignment with the Supremes. Nobody really knows. One must keep in mind that before HDH was assigned to the Supremes, the girls had released about 9 stinkers that bombed or didn't make the charts, and Diana was the lead on a lot of them. Please, give credit where credit is due.
@@5thdimensio284 The Supremes had several singles with Diana as lead that failed to chart before the Holland-Dozier-Holland era. When Diana left in 1970, Mary shared lead vocals on several charting Supremes singles, to name a few: Touch, Floy Joy, Automatically Sunshine and He’s My Man. 2 of those were million-sellers.
@Slaychelle but no more number ones or number one albums. I know people say it was because Berry did it deliberately, but we will never know for sure what happened and why events went the way they did.
what about "Good morning star shine" from The Hollywood Palace,. "Mas Que Nada" outtake from TCB, "Malteds" over manhattan" from On Broadway, "Broadway medley" outtake from On Broadway, "The Christmas song" (Duet version)
her voice sounded so good in the early recordings omg. I’m surprised they didn’t pick her to be the lead singer, yet I guess she didn’t appeal to the white audience as Diana did. still so heartbroken she’s gone 💔
DJ: I'm a huge fan of The Supremes and of Mary personally, and even I never knew she sang so many leads in their early repertoire. Listening here, I was surprised at how full and strong Mary's voice was on their early recordings. The thing that jumps out at me is the influence of the Diana-led Supremes on Mary's singing. Mary was a belter in the early sixties, almost like a Darlene Love with the control of a Whitney Houston. As years went on, you can hear a softening of Mary's solo style, which I think she did to fit with the softer style of the group. My guess is that Berry chose Diana to lead because of the distinctness of her voice. Mary could have easily sang lead in the Marvelettes, and I'm sure Berry wasn't looking for a copycat of them. Mary's voice was also consistent with several other popular girl groups of the early 60s. It would be Diana who gave the group an instantly recognizable sound that could never be duplicated.
Berry explained it ! The name Diana Ross and the Supremes meant they could be sold as two entities ! Eg Smokey Robinson and the Miracles , Martha and the Vandellas , Gladys Knight and the Pips !
Can you imagine if Phyllis Hyman was the lead singer in the Supremes? I always thought Flo had the best voice , then Mary. Ross’s voice to me is like nails on chalk board. Jean even had better voice.
Gordy was an a-hole, he should of allowed Mary Wilson version of 'Our Day Will Come and People Who need People, Falling in Love ,You're just to good to be true,not the gospelly numbers, god but appropriate for church, not mainstream, but the more pop swing numbers she recorded they were perfection,shame on him
Florence Ballard was the strongest singer. But once Diane and Barry started dating he envision Diane to be the groups focus / lead singer because he was in love with her. He wanted his lady on top and he got his way. Dianes career as a solo artist overperformed in all aspects of music, acting, fashion tv etc.
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Such a wonderful tribute to a beautiful woman. RIP Mary Wilson.
Thank you ❤️
@@Slaychelle Good job Thank You!! SIP 🕊️❤️ Mary.MissingYou🌹🌹
"We should be Closer Together" is such a pretty song. RIP Mary
it really is. The Mary, Scherrie & Susaye album is one of The Supremes' most experimental and underappreciated albums
@@Slaychelle What are you going on about? That thing sold 11 copies max. And they bought 3 of them. Underrated my A. You mean UNHEARD OF.
Mary sounds absolutely beautiful ❤️❤️❤️ that beautiful soulful jazzy Alto ⭐⭐⭐⭐ forever and always Mary Wilson.
I have all of these on CD!! I miss Mary! She was truly The Supremes & Motown biggest cheerleader! We have to keep the Supremes alive now!
This is really my first time actually hearing Mary sing and idk why ppl are saying she couldn’t sing. Her voice was golden. She could have definitely sang some leads.
absolutely
@@cherylbanks7082I agree 💯⭐⭐❤️❤.️
Those who were not leads of the group are always downplayed. Mary had a nice voice and probably would've fared well in a group with more soulful songs.
may God rest her soul
Yup. You don't know what you've got till it's gone. Didn't realize I missed Mary so much.....
Just simply beautiful what you did in this tribute to a Supreme lady like Mary Wilson.
Thank you. 💝
Excellent!! Thanks Slaychelle
Thank you both ❤
Have always loved Mary's voice so talented!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Our sultry soulful alto Mary Wilson, Queen Supreme!! Love & Miss you Mary!!! 💛
Mary went through three different stages as a lead singer:
The Diana Ross Era (1962-1970): She had a low, smokey range which stood in contrast to her fellow members Diana Ross, Florence Ballard and Cindy Birdsong. It was solid voice but was still a work in progress
The Jean Terrell Era (1970-1973): Mary's voice was now more mature and had an added sultry layer to it. Her confidence as a lead singer was building up as she was given more solos to do
The Scherrie Payne Era (1973-1977): This is where Mary finally emerged as a fully-fledged leading vocalist. Her voice is at its peak and she's able to show both her vocal range and her versatility as a singer. This is reflected in the material that's she given and she raises to the occasion.
Perfectly said!
RIP Mary my special and fàvourite supreme
With Mary Singing Lead, They Sound Like A Soulful Singing Girl Group
WOW! MARY could sing. 💕 Love you MARY R.I.P.*
I had the pleasure and privilege of seeing Ms. Wilson perform in Detroit in 2012. It was such a wonderful show! I took my mom, who joined other audience members in performing “Stop in the Name of Love“ with the Supreme legend.
Thank you! Good to hear Mary's voice and their earlier music. Very nice music. And voice!!!
This was a joy to watch ❤️
Her voice in the early 60's was so deep, she evolved so much in the 70's.
I think her vocal prime started in 1974, right?
Thank you. Yes, she really came into her own in the mid 70s but she always had a great voice.
@@Slaychelle so why didn't she have solo hits?
@@cravendubose3024 In order to have solo hits, she would have to have been pushed by Motown. It’s unfortunately not as simple as having talent.
Diana Ross was the prime focus of the Supremes, so she was always chosen for lead. They didn’t care for Mary or Flo’s talent.
She also said in her book, around that time, that she had begun to take singing lessons. Check out and listen to her audio book on RUclips.
@@cravendubose3024 By the time The Supremes disbanded, Motown had long given up on the group (even though they had several million-selling international hits) and Mary was literally keeping it alive on her own will and passion for it. Despite numerous lineup changes, the last lineup with Scherrie Payne and Susaye Greene released their last top 40 - I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do the Walking - from the album High Energy (1976), which was one of the group's best charting albums in the 70s. However, their next and last album a few months later failed to chart on Billboard. The group disbanded in 1977 and they released solo projects in 1979. Mary's self-titled debut album and single "Red Hot" both hit the R&B charts but didn't make much impact. She was working on a second album at Motown, which as uncompleted and shelved but has since been released along with her first solo album on the Mary Wilson: Motown Anthology.
Mary's second album Walk the Line was released by
CEO Records in 1992 but the label went bust shortly after. More recently, Mary scored her biggest Billboard hit with a top 20 on the Dance Club Songs chart with "Time To Move On" in 2016. She revealed a few days before her death she was working on new music and re-releasing her first album along with unreleased tracks.
I have always loved Our Day Will Come since I first heard it
Beautiful ❤️
Slaychelle this was brilliantly done!!!! I can only imagine if Berry would have put the money, the grooming, and Motown machine behind Mary like he did Diana, she would have been a super star. Her voice is stronger, sexier, richer, and has a lot more character and honesty than Diana's, and she was by far the most naturally beautiful!......Rest in Paradise Miss Wilson.
I agree with you about Mary, her range and Falsetto. Thanks.
He wasnt fucking Mary like he was fucking Diane. They say Aries are go getters, well this is a prime example of one go getter Aries, but damn did she have to run over everybody to get to the top? What about Florence, Mary & Cindy? Just maybe they wanted to get to the top too. You're not in this world all by yourself, well maybe now that Florence & Mary are deceased & Cindy is on her last leg, I guess she is still alive but never coming back to the stage again. Miss Ross, I hope you are happy now, all your competition are all gone. Enjoy the rest of your tenure here, & happy fucking birthday Fruday 3/26, 77 y.o. Too bad Mary couldnt live to see her 77th birthday. 3/6/44-2/8/21. Twenty six days short of her birthday.
@@davidbetsey2437 Diana was indeed an Aries go-getter, but that her success came at the expense of the other Supremes, I attribute to Berry. Berry was nearly fifteen years older than the Supremes and the boss. I think he could have done a lot to maintain harmony in the group if he had simply made sure that Mary and Florence, and later Cindy, had solo spots in every show.
Mary said in her books that she and Florence were both happy with all of the hits they had with Diana as lead. I believe her, because even singing background in a group as huge as The Supremes still meant you were very much on top. But giving Mary and Florence chances to lead on album cuts and in live appearances would have made a huge impact on group morale.
But Berry was the boss and expected everybody to fall in line, and the story of The Supremes that we know was the result.
There was no auto tune then, nothing but natural talent. RIP
💯💯💯💯 Facts !!!
Thank you for putting this together. I love Mary's beautiful vocals. Her voice is sultry, sexy, and, at times, playful. She was always classy and gracious.
LOVE LOVE, LOVE IT! Thank you for sharing this wonderful compilation of Mary's great work as a LEAD Supreme.
She will forever be loved and missed.
Love it Mary Wilson is part of it all. I'm so touched.
I love all her music beginning to now
This compilation is outstanding. Thanks for the work and effort you must have put in. Blessings.
Thank You so much for showcasing most of Mary's best leads with the Supremes! This video brought back some great memories and truly made me smile. RIP Mary! WE MISS YOU!
Mary Wilson was awesome
Thank you very much! I’ve been waiting for this video ever since you posted The Original Supremes Vocal Battle! Amazing work on your part once again. I know Mary would love this video too. I’m still in shock and very sad that this beautiful, talented woman is no longer with us. Thanks again 🥰
Thank you so, so much for putting it all together! Mary is great and she'll always be missed!
Thank you for making this ❤️
Always a pleasure ❤️
Beautiful Mary...R.I.P.
Wow ! I never knew Ms fine & Gorgeous Mary Wilson sang lead on so many ballets. She sounds beautiful beautiful. They all had impeccable styles. Diana had a little more showmanship. Barry Gordy push her out front when she became his woman I guess. Still they were the Queens of Motown 's music. Loved me some Mary Wilson ❤😢 🙏 RIP
What a great tribute to the legacy of Mary Wilson. This is so well put together. Thanks for all of the work.
Beautiful 😢
Mary is the sole lead on the live recording of "Falling in Love with Love"
Correct
She had such a beautiful voice, no wonder they had a brilliant succesdful blend and wonderful mega hits. Rest in Eternal Peace Nubian Supreme Queen! 🧡U Heavenly😇.
Amen. A wonderful sound that can't be duplicated.
Dig. Dat right on blkluv an blkpwr ashe
Mary Wilson also released two solo albums: _Mary Wilson_ (1979) and _Walk the Line_ (1992)
Nice
According to Mary's autobiography, Berry Gordy used to tell her she couldn't sing.
I don't get it. She sounds like a good singer to me.
RIP MARY💖
Wow! Beautiful! ❤❤❤
Congratulations! There is one song missing, though: "What Do You Have to Do (To Stay on the Right Side of Love)" with Four Tops in album "The Return of the Magnificent Seven". It is a brief but beautiful lead. There is another version of "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" from the album "Motown at the Hollywood Palace" and a version of "Where Do I Go", singing lead with Cindy Birsong; and in her posthumous Motown compilation there is a longer version of "Automatically Sunshine" with additional lyrics. By the way, once Susaye Greene called to my attention that she sings harmony with Mary in "We Should Be Closer Together."
Omg yes, on the second verse! Thanks for commenting Edgar
R.I.P Mary 💋
Thanks, Slaychelle!! I thought Mary totally owned Sunset, People too
I miss the great beauty. RIP Mary!
👏🏽 Brilliantly compiled. Thank you so much for putting this together. 🙏🏽
Love This 🎶🌹🕊️💖🕊️
Still have all their albums - & CD
Queen
great tribute - loved it - but don't forget about ''still water'' (love) from the ''promises kept'' sessions.
I love that one. Another one missed :(
@@Slaychelle yeah - it's my favourite of mary's supreme leads - but the song is way too short !
@@bosskat57There were so many great songs from the Promises Kept sessions: Tears Left Over, Still Water, Take Your Dreams Back...shame they weren’t released at the time
That sultry sexy voice. Mary brought a class and sophistication to her vocals. Gordy really should've allowed Mary and Flo more opportunities to take the lead on at least one track each on every Supremes album. It would've broadened the groups appeal and their repertoire. Diana's voice is distinctive but on many album cuts it doesn't suit the arrangement- too harsh and piercing- so many of those tracks would've been so much better with Mary or Flo. The group would also have been taken far more seriously by music critics if all 3 contributed more to the sound.
Amen
Touch should have been a hit. If Berry Gordy backed it up.
Nice singing voice. My favorite is Floyd joy.
Is she mezzo soprano? Lyric?
IMO Lyric Mezzo. Her voice seemed to get even richer and bolder in the 80s/90s - she has Tina Turner-esque belts on her solo song "One Night With You".
@@Slaychelle Thank you so much. I also agree with you about her belts like Tina Turner.
She was an honest to goodness alto in the original Supremes.
@@d.singler-kron9034 she probably sang the alto part in the group, but She's no alto.
She was a contralto. She sang the bottom note. Female contraltos are most commonly called tenors. Mezzo sopranos are altos that can hit soprano notes
Hence mezzo meaning middle, being the voice type in the middle, higher than tenor, lower than soprano.
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Doesn’t make sense why they chose to have Diana the only lead singer when they didn’t start out that way and they all could sing.
I'll tell you why. She was the high soprano. And she had a universal sound, as opposed to churchy and soulful
@DeVante Cooley I agree with you, but I have to add that with Mary as lead, The Supremes would have sounded very similar to The Marvelettes. Berry wasn't looking for a copycat group, and placing Diana in the lead gave the Supremes a very unique and never-to-be-duplicated sound.
Because her voice sounds nice to radio. Florence and Mary’s voice sounds like the traditional gospel soulful singers.
MS ROSS voice not suited to background vocals...MARY really comes into her own on
the extended version of HE'S MY MAN ..this track was very popular in NYC gay bars 1975/6
There was a motive behind it of course. They should have all been able to sing lead.
I wonder if they will also be releasing The Supreme Mary Wilson album?
Mary Wilson had nice voice. I think Berry Gordy should have let her and Florence Ballard have more leads on their Albums. Diana Ross had the most commercial voice and made them successful but it would have been nice if all 3 contribute to the group's sound.
What an amazing voice if it wasn't for very Gordy Diana wouldn't have gotten as far as she did don't get me wrong I love her she was one of my favorites but we all know but very Gordy had a lot to do with it but sometimes that's just the way it is she was blessed but so for the other girls they just didn't get in with Berry Gordy either way Diana Ross did as everybody knows what I'm talking about but I love you Diana Ross you are a clean also
@@wonderboyjoy This debate is so tiring...for the record Mary did have Supremes hits with her lead vocals...Floy Joy was a top 20 US million seller for instance...it was also top 10 in the UK along with Automatically Sunshine, despite decreasing support from Motown.
So much of what has come out since MW passed is that it was motivated by $ and the “sound” he was looking for. They went for the good instead of equity and broadness of style. Flo, with a bit more time and nurturing, would have evolved into an Ella or Sarah. When you listen to the early stuff, pre “Let me go the right way “ and “When the lovelight....” their sound was generic, indistinguishable and unimpressive. The combo of H-D-H and Diana as lead gave them their “niche sound” it unfolded as a perfect storm, to move Flo out. Still so sad about that. Grateful for their music. As you listen to again, so timeless and evocative. ❤️❤️❤️. RIP FB, MW,
I think it was so unfair and cruel how Mary and Florence were treated in that group. I heard in an interview how at one point, they were told they were no longer going to be allowed to sing leads anymore. All of the main leads were given to Diane when she was pushed to the front. In my opinion Mary and Florence had better singing voices than Diane!!! Rest in Heaven, Queen Mary!!!💜🕊👑🎶🌹🎤😇❤
Mary and Flo have no #1 hits singing lead, it was only when Diana became a lead singer that they started having #1 hits, if Mary was so talented big record labels could have been chasing after her after she left the Supremes.
@@5thdimensio284 but people always seem to leave out that when Diana was made the official lead, Berry also at the same time assigned his #1 hit-making team of HDH to the Supremes. The fans always seem to leave that out, or maybe they're just ignorant to that fact. But, it was then that the hits started topping the charts until around mid-1967 when HDH left Motown and started their own record company, Invictus. All of a sudden the Supremes with Diana on lead stopped hitting the top of the charts as frequently. Instead, acts like Freda Payne, Honey Cone, and Chairman of the Board were now taking HDH songs to the top of the charts, not Diana and the Andantes or whoever. I said all that to say; who knows what would have happened had HDH been assigned to write songs for a Flo or Mary at the beginning of their assignment with the Supremes. Nobody really knows. One must keep in mind that before HDH was assigned to the Supremes, the girls had released about 9 stinkers that bombed or didn't make the charts, and Diana was the lead on a lot of them. Please, give credit where credit is due.
@@5thdimensio284 The Supremes had several singles with Diana as lead that failed to chart before the Holland-Dozier-Holland era. When Diana left in 1970, Mary shared lead vocals on several charting Supremes singles, to name a few: Touch, Floy Joy, Automatically Sunshine and He’s My Man. 2 of those were million-sellers.
@@5thdimensio284 I imagine dating the boss also had its perks. 😉
@Slaychelle but no more number ones or number one albums. I know people say it was because Berry did it deliberately, but we will never know for sure what happened and why events went the way they did.
what about "Good morning star shine" from The Hollywood Palace,. "Mas Que Nada" outtake from TCB, "Malteds" over manhattan" from On Broadway, "Broadway medley" outtake from On Broadway, "The Christmas song" (Duet version)
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her voice sounded so good in the early recordings omg. I’m surprised they didn’t pick her to be the lead singer, yet I guess she didn’t appeal to the white audience as Diana did. still so heartbroken she’s gone 💔
Was Diana dating Mr. Gordy at that time when she was made to lead the group?
@@bubaby7867 don’t think so
DJ: I'm a huge fan of The Supremes and of Mary personally, and even I never knew she sang so many leads in their early repertoire. Listening here, I was surprised at how full and strong Mary's voice was on their early recordings.
The thing that jumps out at me is the influence of the Diana-led Supremes on Mary's singing. Mary was a belter in the early sixties, almost like a Darlene Love with the control of a Whitney Houston. As years went on, you can hear a softening of Mary's solo style, which I think she did to fit with the softer style of the group.
My guess is that Berry chose Diana to lead because of the distinctness of her voice. Mary could have easily sang lead in the Marvelettes, and I'm sure Berry wasn't looking for a copycat of them. Mary's voice was also consistent with several other popular girl groups of the early 60s. It would be Diana who gave the group an instantly recognizable sound that could never be duplicated.
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Actually Flo could sing too!!
You also forget long gone lover
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Berry explained it ! The name Diana Ross and the Supremes meant they could be sold as two entities ! Eg Smokey Robinson and the Miracles , Martha and the Vandellas , Gladys Knight and the Pips !
I've always liked Mary's voice...but it didn't matter; Berry could only see Diana!
Very nice but I would also include NathayJones and Give up (but don’t give out)
Mary was a much better singer than Barry EVER gave her credit for. It was ultimately a missed opportunity, and she suffered for it.
Can you imagine if Phyllis Hyman was the lead singer in the Supremes?
I always thought Flo had the best voice , then Mary. Ross’s voice to me is like nails on chalk board. Jean even had better voice.
Gordy was an a-hole, he should of allowed Mary Wilson version of 'Our Day Will Come and People Who need People, Falling in Love ,You're just to good to be true,not the gospelly numbers, god but appropriate for church, not mainstream, but the more pop swing numbers she recorded they were perfection,shame on him
IMO she sings a lot better than #DianaRoss.☝🏽😌
Stop lying to yourself and others.
Florence Ballard was the strongest singer. But once Diane and Barry started dating he envision Diane to be the groups focus / lead singer because he was in love with her. He wanted his lady on top and he got his way. Dianes career as a solo artist overperformed in all aspects of music, acting, fashion tv etc.
@@Eriq7001 I think you people blame Diana Ross for everything, you think she responsible for the bad weather in TEXAS?
@DeVante Cooley RIGHT!....... :-)
I think Mary sings good in the 1970s
Take diana voice out and just do the background
You'll have nothing!!!!!
We loved Mary but truth be told she ruined many a song
On the Farewell album you can hear Diana gasp in disgust at Mary's screeching vocals
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