The 2022 Lexus NX 450h+ Is A Compromised Plug-In Hybrid Luxury SUV
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- We've been waiting a while for Lexus to completely redesign their second best-selling vehicle in the lineup. For 2022, the #LexusNX gets the full redesign that it needs to stay competitive with other luxury rivals. Lexus even took it up a notch with their first-ever plug-in hybrid called the #LexusNX450h +, the #NX450h + borrows the powertrain from the #RAV4Prime which means we get up to 304 HP, 36 miles of electric-only range, and 0-60 in about 6 seconds. Its the most powerful member in the #Lexus #NX family, but it does come with a few compromises that make us feel confused.
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Happy Friday everyone! We really appreciate all the big steps forward Lexus took with this redesigned Lexus NX, the PHEV model is the most powerful and quickest version in the lineup and that's impressive! However, it seems like for the two steps forward Lexus took, they also made two steps back with some of the packaging in this vehicle. Or maybe it's because the competition is just so darn good nowadays, that it's hard to ignore some of the flaws this car has. Regardless, we'll be testing the NX350 and NX350h for an extended period of time very soon and will update our reviews accordingly!
Quick question, what does the side and back of the screen look like from passenger seat? Does it stick out a lot? Also, did you guys notice it in your way or like you might hit it a lot with egress and ingress?
Want to see the 350h review. I wish Lexus kept the Nebula gray, which is better than this cloudburst gray.
The fact that you were disappointed with the nx turbo and the base engine only shows that I was right the entire time. Your disappointment is my enjoyment and celebration 😁. Now I can just sit back and laugh at you all because I warned you all the nx already disappoints before it even goes on sale. You refused to take me seriously and shut me down for telling sofyan not to drive the nx. Now we can see that I was right and you were wrong. That must be humiliating for you 😂. There are better cars worth driving and this isn’t it 😂
Seriously sofyan, consider consulting with me on whether a future Toyota or Lexus product that no one’s seen or driven is even worth looking at or doing a review on. Because chances are you’ll thank me for saving you from driving gussied up Camrys or corollas and instead driving the real deal luxury car
@@naveenthemachine agreed man. People should take you seriously but they won’t because they are just Lexus conformists stuck in the past with little to no knowledge about cars
@@naveenthemachinewhy can’t you leave him alone? Just let him review whatever car he wants, whether he’s disappointed or not
14:20 For these week-long reviews, you have the cars overnight. When you talk about ambient lighting, it's hard for us to see. Can you insert short clips of it in your driveway at night, or from a dark underground parking? Would be nice to see these since you're mentioning it as a feature
Yeah that would be nice!
No way in hell would I be spening $50-60 thousand dollars on "ambient lightening" if my own personal hard-earned money is on the line. "Pano roof," as some of these inepts keep talking about is noiser and results in potentially more rattles and sgueaks especially as a vehicle gets older. Most of these cars are not built to last so they don't care and they are only emphazing some of these features to get silly people.
Yes, headlights test too!
@@Mark-de4hj But, you're not spending 50-60k for ambient lighting, that's kind of a hyperbole, isn't it? All I'm saying is if the reviewer talks about ambient lighting (if the car has it), it would be nice to see what it looks like. I'm not arguing for or against the ambient lighting on its face as an idea. Sure more features = more potential problems, but nice features are nice and not everyone is willing to go completely barebone stripped down model in fear of something breaking.
@Richard Navrátil Forgive me, I guess having been a luxury car owner for so long I forget that things like ambient lightning is important to some. Pretty much all new vehicles, and especially luxury vehicles, are equipped with those. We are now more concerned about having 'adaptive lightening', which is considered important as a safety concern. I find it interesting that you equate not having ambient lighting to being "stripped down" though..
I cross shopped both the NX and RAV4 and the 450h is well worth the $10k premium over the RAV4 Prime. The RAV’s infotainment was out of date when it came out in 2019 and the screen quality is very low resolution. The RAV’s interior materials are noticeably consumer grade and lack the premium feel you get from the Lexus. For a car you plan to own long term its well worth spending a little more up front to enjoy the premium experience for the years to come.
That really depends on needs, I won’t put a family of kids into this 450h+ as much I would in the RAV4 Prime. Different needs but same car.
@@robertwenrenyeh what’s the difference? It is a family car. We put our 2 kids in our then brand new 2009 RX. Sure kids do bad things to cars, at the end of the day, to me it is just a car and money.
They changed that system in the 2022 model rav4
I was between those 2 choices & honestly, once you connect an IPHONE/apple CarPlay. The toyota interface is a non-issue. Don’t regret my rav4 at all.
@@OscarGonzalez27 They didn't? The 2022 Rav4 still has the exact same infotainment system.
Excellent! It's great to have a Plug-in Hybrid that gets 37 in the city and has that electric motor torque for fast acceleration. 304 hp is great for a normal "family" SUV.
I don't know if I would pay close to 70k for it though
Just picked up my NX450h+ f sport and I love it. Drives so smooth and interior feels plush. Truly an experience to drive it everyday!!
heyy which dealership you got from if i may ask? and did you pay any markup ? if so how much ? I'm trying to find one :(
@@stanley20924 Woodland Hills Lexus in Southern California. “Mark up” was about 4K. Cheapest I could find in the area…
@@ugnhyme yea i've been calling every dealership. How do you like your f-sports so far? I'm deciding between luxury vs f-sports
@@ugnhyme did you get the 6.6-KW ONBOARD CHARGER,
@@stanley20924 f sport has the looks for sure. Almost similar to luxury. Mine is the black on black package with red interior f sport. Definitely stands out
LOL funny how the "hey Lexus" responds "what do you want to do?" Sounds more like "WTF do you want" LOL
Lexus must have trained "Hey Lexus" on my wife and mine conversations :)
😂 😂
The accent light next to the fog light is actually a cornering light. It turns on when you are at low speeds and have your blinkers on it turn the steering wheel a certain amount to the left or right
Similar to light assist on VW
Ummmm why premium gas??? 2 HP doesn’t justify that. Also no pano roof on the 450H is a huge missed opportunity. If anything this should offer the pano roof and not the RAV4
I'm assuming they think no one is cross-shopping this with the Toyota.
Yeah, the only redeeming point, the manual does say 91 preferred (less pefomrance and some knock risk), but min is 87. Stilly scary, but much better than mandatory.
not required and you will never notice the difference. Difference between a Rav 4 Hybrid and 350H is 20hp, that's because of the electric motors not the gasoline engine
This is the ultimate version of your "old" RAV4 prime 😜
Supposedly! But when Lexus doesn't offer the Pano roof and Mark Levinson sound system on this ultimate version, it leaves us scratching our heads 😅
@@theredline 🤯 i just used the online builder and didn't see an option for either ML or pano roof. Also weren't available for F sport variant. Looks like the luxury package was removed for the plug in 🤷♂️ best off getting the kitchen sink luxury package on the 350h and save 10k over the 450 🤦♂️
You forgot to mention that it’s also slower 😂
Its a disappointment
@@theredline Was also surprised not to see any thigh bolsters
Even if I like Redline Review, I insist viewers to watch other 5-10 reviews about Lexus NX. Others have covered more good side/characteristics of Lexus this channel did not cover. This is true for all cars and models. Do not decide to buy or reject a car based on 1 review.
Agree, there are much other better balanced UT reviewers on NX.. His values (as I think he acknowledges) are not the trade-off most Lexus buyers would make to get a few 1/10 sec on 0-60, and a little more cargo room for a really boring, old technology Rav4. Most people would never notice the 1/2 seconds slower speed.
As he noted in his last Rav4P review, he really seemed to have some 2nd thoughts of a PHEV's value, in general. He liked Rav4P only in EV as he seemed to say in this review also- too noisy. And on the Rav4P and 450h+, I agree. One you run out of that 30 miles or so in any cold weather ( and HS highway your are in the 20's), you are really just lugging around 400 lib just to have essentially a much over-specified battery hybrid drive system. Just get an EV. To me, that is the real compromise of the NX 450H. And I do agree, it is very strange to not have the ML sound and panorama roof. I ordered the 350h Luxury with ML sound and panorama roof. LOL
I just bought this car. My CarPlay doesn’t connect all the time either! I have to sometimes manually connect it or restart the screen 😑 it’s kind of annoying! But I love everything else about this car 😍
Not having the ML sound system on the top trim is a dealbreaker for me.
I just finished watching your 2022 Lexus NX 450+ On February 25, 2022. Excellent video and extremely informative. You need to be hired by Lexus corporation to teach their sales people about all the different packages that this car comes with. The sales people keep on insisting that the 450+ still comes with the panoramic moonroof and the Mark Levinson sound system. You are the first person that actually said this on any RUclips channel. And I have looked at many RUclips providers. I’m probably going to wait until 2023 NX 450 H plus comes out. Or I’ll check out the 2023 RZ450E.
Thank you so much for the great work. I will be watching your videos for now on.
Thank you, Bill.
I wish you spent more time comparing it to vehicles it actually competes with instead of pointing out similarities to the rav4
Well the nx is literally a rav4
@@naveenthemachine lol so go buy that. We all know Lexus IS Toyotas luxury brand. It would have been nice to see how this stacks up to the competition is what I’m saying.
@@rugger8136 well vs it’s competitors it doesn’t really stack up at all. 😂 literally every single rival walks all over the nx in just about every way
but it competes with the rav4 prime. He compared to volvo/audi phev in terms of interior features, engine horsepower, EV range. What did he miss?
Volvo/Audi phev models are the only two direct competitors. I guess he could have compared it to non-phev luxury vehicles, but questionable if buyers are cross shopping those.
He did it because everyone is crosshopping the Rav4 Prime and NX 450H+. This review helped me as I am crosshopping both and just don't know which one to get.
I agree that the new NX just doesn't seem all that luxurious from the inside. Aside from the large 14" screen, I think the previous gen's interior looked more premium.
Sofyan, as always, your reviews are stellar. You really make one examine a vehicle on all aspects, especially with your undeniable ability to compare your press vehicles to their competition. Essentially your reviews give me what I need most - the indisputable truth. Please continue to offer your honest opinion, which potentially saves me from making a dreadful purchase. Thank you.
In terms of the missing content, I wonder if that is due to supply chain and other factors? The 450 us built in Japan, alongside the RAV4 Prime, and I wonder if Toyota decided from a profitability standpoint, the R4P offered better returns with the panoramic roof, exhaust tips, and other content. Lexus offers additional luxuries, so maybe the offset it on certain models.
I still love that Grecian Blue F-Sport model. Such a good looking ride. And these are unlikely to be as marked up as the R4Ps are right now.
The lack of Mark Levinson and pano roof is due to the weight of the PHEV, which is already 2000kg, according to Lexus Australia.
This and the RAV4 Prime are not worth the price at all… so saying this one is 10K worth over a Prime which puts this around 61K p,us taxes is absolutely overpriced. Buzzy 4 pot, awful infotainment controls. Just for reference a X5 PHEV starts at 63.7K well equipped. Just add the lowest level $1300 plus $400 4 Zone climate package and you are good. Plus gets $7500 Fed Tax credit.
Thank you for your excellent video. We have a 2019 NX which takes premium gas and gives us low gas mileage, so were considering the plug in electric to run on battery for around town and charge at home, but the range is very limited and the price with the nicer trim too high.
Lexus said they didn’t include mark levinson premium audio and panoramic moonroof to reduce the vehicle weight! 😞 We need panoramic moonroof
I'm so torn Sofyan. Should I choose reliability over flare for my money? I love luxury, but absolutely despise having to take my vehicle to the mechanic so often.
If you want flare and reliability you can get both. It’s called the Toyota Venza
I’ve had good luck with Audi, have you considered them?
But it may only be luck.... your car could have been built on a good day ☺️ I still believe that Japanese quality is superior... but you may know something I don't.
Rav4 prime.
does anyone know when all new 5-th gen lexus rx will be available???
Why even bother waiting? The dressed up Toyota Highlander already got destroyed by the genesis gv80 before it even gets unveiled to the world. It’s that simple
So when you said the 5th gen Lexus RX you really meant to say you want a genesis gv80
I will stay with my Venza
Same.
Poor people lol
I love this interior! It looks really high end and stylish. I also love the functionality of the new infotainment system, but I hate that it's cloud based. Toyota is really pushing the always connected tech in their vehicles and that will be a deal breaker for a lot buyers, maybe including me. It depends on whether or not you can disable it if you want to.
Deal breaker for a lot of buyer? Tbh, I have not heard this from a single buyer.
@@yashduggal918 Then you're not talking to many buyers. These cloud based infotainment systems raise many privacy questions. I will say that a lot of people don't value their privacy anymore, but MANY still do, myself included. In any case, don't assume that your personal level of knowledge on this issue is any indication of overall sentiment.
Should be an easy fix. Have a USB info port for thumb drive Playlists or create proprietary drives that connect to vehicles with expansion ports. Car manufacturers should not care which streaming svc you use. But they're all in bed together to sell our information
@@kevlamar6613 That's not how it works. Many of the system's features won't work at all if you don't setup an account and stay connected. Remote start is a feature that many people love, especially in the winter, but in these newer vehicles, it only works via the infotainment system's cellular connection, not from the key fob. That's just one example of many. They withhold desirable features to coerce you into going along with their data mining.
“Toyota and Lexus in Texas” got Dr.Suess vibes
Thank you for your review. Very useful. Question: How does the car maintain AWD when there is no mechanical connection to the rear wheels, just electric motors? It's a bit confusing. (But please keep your hands on the wheel when driving)
The there are two electric motors in the rear powering the rear wheels. These are what allow for all wheel drive.
Lexus is certainly missing the mark by not offering things like a panoramic sunroof or a premium sound system (?) on what is essentially the top trim of what can be currently considered a super hot compact luxury crossover market
Agree. I'm baffled by this. What do you think their thinking was in gimping this model compared to the non-hybrids?
I’m pretty sure it’s cos of weight, a panoramic sunroof on its own can add 100 to 150lbs to a car which I’m return reduces efficiency and the same goes for the premium sound system, subwoofers aren’t light at all, all that extra weight brings down the efficiency of a car that’s already so heavy
Alleged Chip shortage disguised as weight saving excuse but actually plan to lets rip off consumers and to
The sunroof itself is unbelievable. If it was a base model, ok, but this is the 450 lool. How does the RAV4 get one and this doesnt?
Cuz they know people are still going to buy it regardless of it lacking features.
A suggestion: please consider spending less time on the 0-60 testing. It's interesting info but in my opinion isn't commensurate in value with the amount of time you devote to it in your finished videos.
I love the 0-60 measurements. It shows real world acceleration tests, not on a test track with professional drivers. So yeah, it's important to me.
@@leebr2010 same I love hearing the 0-60 i don’t care how eco it is it’s interesting to know
@@brynnleahnayvieghlaykynnn6175 I do care about economy as well, real world fuel economy. So it's good that he does both.
@@leebr2010 me too I meant I don’t care how eco friendly the car is I want to know the 0-60
@@brynnleahnayvieghlaykynnn6175 as I said, it's interesting information, but it takes too big of percentage of the total run time of the video. I like the information but perhaps added down or presented in a summary format or something like that.
Thanks for the great review, I think it's a big misstep for Lexus to ask for Premium fuel for this Plug-In NX to begin with, which negates the whole point buying a plug-in car in the first place. Hopefully I will see your review of the Kia Sorento PHEV which I current own and truly enjoy driving. No premium fuel needed, lots of room, real spare tire, easy to use info system, quality real leather, pano roof (optional but at least it is available), standard 6 seaters, huge LCD cluster, Bose Sound System for my Prestige trim, 14 way driver seat with thigh extension and 10 way passenger seat with lumber adjustment, HEATED 2nd row seats, great value for the money even with market adjustments (I bet it's the same for Lexus dealers). I really want to love Lexus but they need to work harder to catch up with the Korean brands. Even the JD power is awarding Kia as number 1 in reliability this year so people cannot keep talking about Korean brands not being reliable....Oh, also the new NX does not look much different from my pre-owned 2016 NX turbo....so not much excitement when I see this new NX.
The Korean brands have already far surpassed them so for Lexus it may be too late
JD power isn’t a reputable website, automakers can buy the awards, I currently drive a Hyundai and it’s reliable but it’s most definitely not as dependable as my Lexus GS which is a lot older
@@alwaysiyi272 JD power survey are actually owners of the cars. So it doesn't lie
The best way to maintain the life and fuctionality of a modern engine is generally though a higher octane level of gasoline which have being processed for less polutants and results in a cleaner burn with less engine noise. You can use a lower octane but its generally not recommended for extended periods. Using a synthetic oil is also best in producing less gunk and buildup and can better handle heat. This is why most higher end cars go this route.
Note; I bet it would be rare for anyone seriously considering a Lexus NX and can afford it, would then end up purchasing a Kia...
@@alwaysiyi272 c
Can you tell me which reputable and provable information source you are getting this information? Or is it 'word on the streets'...?
Start at $55K. I think I would cross shop a Model Y instead of a RAV4. I'm not a Tesla fan boy, but that is a lot of money for a fancy RAV4.
I would get the Hybrid, PHEV's are pointless IMO, too many compromises.
@@naughtysauce4323 if you’re going for the hybrid why bother w the nx? Get the venza instead. That’s a way nicer vehicle
@@naveenthemachine This car would def not be for me, not even at the base engine version. I would much rather get a base RDX. My argument was that most of not all PHEV's are way too compromised to be a logical choice over ICE or a hybrid.
@@naughtysauce4323 A PHEV with a home charging setup and used for mostly local driving can be sensible - especially until widespread EV charging infrastructure catches up. But there are many situations where it really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, either. And definitely not worth paying an absurd premium over MSRP for, as some are doing with the RAV4 Prime.
Lexus Safety Sense+ 3.0 and the screen is 14". Lots of errors in your review.
This vehicle is $91,000 w tax in Canada. Too expensive for what you receive in exchange.
Great review! Would you say the 350h is better?
I've seen other reviews say that it doesn't have the panoramic sunroof bc of how heavy glass is and it would add too much weight. I test drove it today and the thing that stood out to me is how loud the cabin gets at higher speed (82/85 mph). But, I usually only drive at 78/79mph so it may not be an issue.
Good note on the loudness. Do you have other comparisons cars that you think are quieter? Just want to get an idea cuz I know loudness is subjective lol thinking of getting this car but don’t want the loudness
Last gen interior looked more premium than this. Only the infotainment is an improvement, IMO.
I agree the last gen had leather stitched dashboard and door panels this one looks cheap and plasticky.
I am hoping you can clarify something for me about the RAV4. I test drove the PRIME yesterday and am thinking the salesperson did not know the vehicle as well as you. They told me the EV mode would not operate at highway speeds. I had been particularly excited by the vehicle as I work less than 20 miles from home and thought I would be able to drive back and forth to work ( which includes some highway miles) on the battery power alone. But, after test driving, I doubted that.
Got the Toyota rav 4 hybrid xse cause this hasn’t come out yet & after seeing this review, I don’t feel like I was missing out on much.
Premium GAS! Why Lexus, why would you do this???!!!! I am now driving a 2021 RX F series 3 (my 6th Lexus over the years) and seriously looking at this PHEV, I just canceled my scheduled test drive.
A dealer was asking me for 10k more for this. I pick up a RX350 than feel way more better
…..Glad you LOVE this car...........I own the 2022 450h+ F sport..Note the Heads Up display on the windshield W/14” Crystal clear display on both, alone makes the Lexus better........Mine is In Atomic Silver Glows in the Sun Light with Lil" grey metal flake" and same Circut Red interior.. but with Electric battery...Has 306 Horse power 0 to 60 in 5.6 sec (Via Road and track at drag strip!.) This model DOES- NOT have a TURBO...But rather, a Naturally aspirated / Carb...........(important because it is well known that TURBOS stress engines)...simply said: see euro cars shop time!....this car combines the Elec Batt and engine to achieve *89 miles per Gallon in Hybred mode with HIGH torq, And VERY quick out of the hole...Jus' blew the doors off a 735i beemer...albeit for only a block ...( I am no dummy a V* will eventually pass many cars in the long dist. (in all fairness) ......However, who cares the thrill is initial take off and tickets are for high speed & SPEED...Kill's! My car has Red Calipers against Powder coated Gloss spoke Black mags and All red "F" Sport Badges........ FAR better built than euro's (mine built in Japan) sadly, new releases are now being made in Canada! Like USA Union shops...no one gets fired for a hang over and bad work??? maybe)..... However, Lexus is Far more reliable...Far better Re-Sale that Euro beemers or mercedes Check Engine Light Gucci headache) .......indeed mine has Gone UP in price...Not many cars you can find Like that!... IF YOU CAN FIND ONE ANYWHERE do grab it!......"econ 101".....Has (3) elec. motors gett'n 0 to 60 in 5.6 sec (road and track) HIGH torque QUICK out of Hole!......Never do I use gas..... gett'n 43 miles per 120 Volt charge (real world driving my experience.) and NEVER USE GAS....and almost Silent operation in elec....So do your research......as this is Far better than any European beemer or mercedes that are depreciating the moment you drive off the lot BIG TIME! And are un- reliable offering to say nothing of the GAS HOG unproven G 70, & RDX not worth mentioning. Z Best of the BEST F Sport 450h+ ! ….One more thing, Jus' a heads up!......My wife drives the RX 2020 model...Consider putting Michelins on your NX 450h+ F Sport......Far and away EVEN a much smoother ride Much better ride than the HARD Run Flat Bridgestones that come stock. Carry a Batt. quality inflator ( DeWalt 20V MAX Corded/Cordless Air Inflator ) and string tar impregnated rope insert-er and Do-Not wait for AAA.
Need to update your info on Fuel Type.
From the 450h+ Owner's Manual:
Fuel Type: 91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher
[recomended]
87 (Research Octane Number 91) or higher
[minimum]
I sat down with a Lexus salesman and we discussed about this nx packages and Model spec. We were both scratching our head too because there are no real Luxury option in the PHEV nx such as premium sound system and panoroof. Then I ended up order the 350 hybrid with Executive package instead, not to mention, if I do highway drive more than local commute, the 350h consume a bit less gas than the Plug in Hybrid, moreover the 350h accepts ***REGULAR GAS*** as minimum fuel requirement.
I read they also recommend premium fuel for the hybrid.
@@gianniclaud you can go to lexus website and search for drivers manual pdf for the 350h
@@gianniclaud I copied this from the Owner's Manuals for Nx 350h 2022.
91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher [recomended]
87 (Research Octane Number 91) or higher [minimum]
Recommended 91 and 87 for minimum. It means that you can also put 87 too, it won't create any knocking or problems to the engine. But you won't get the same level of performance as the 91 or higher.
@@GuuiYae oh good to know… thank you!
I think I’m gonna order one over a Venza. I just hope I can find one with a pano roof and ML Audio. Shame there’s no F-Sport available for the 350h.
Man, the prices on these new vehicles 🤦🏾♂ (and yes, I know it's a Lexus. I'm looking for a BEV or PHEV and these prices are crazy all around)
You cannot find a RAV4 at MSRP but my Lexus dealer will sell this at MSRP so it’s a better deal.
Also it would be nice if you talk about the suspension and ride quality on this compared to the RAV4 since you talk about throughout the whole video
You can negotiate and I found a few for msrp. Rav is still better for the price. Runs on 87 unlike this more cargo. More range ev and in general. Has ac button on key etc
I'm waiting for them to make an SUV with a 100 mile battery range + gas.
Is the vehicle slow after it runs out of battery charge?
Since the drivetrains of the Lexus NX 450h+ is the same as the Toyota Rav4 Prime, why shouldn't it be ok to use the same regular grade gas that the Toyota uses?
And also I just traded in my 2019 nx300 for the NEW NX250 BLACK WITH RED INTERIOR 😌
If it's the same engine.... why premium gas? 🤔
2 hp 😂
@@jsdhillon6134 Right lol and yet it's still slower but costs more to fuel.
@@Stressless2023 I think if they just made it 20-30hp more, they would've saved themselves from a lot of confusion
Because Lexus
It’s a bit too expensive compared to the other NX and RX trims. It only makes sense to buy this if you can mostly electric commute over 10 years, or if you just like spending money for the top level trim.
My wife just got a 2022 NX and I am not crazy about it. She keeps a car 10+ years so this is the right car for her but I am really not impressed. Oh and it is a pain to switch from the Lexus UI back to CarPlay and back to Lexus UI. The passenger (teenage daughter) can't change the radio while in CarPlay mode. a Track forward and back (radio preset advance) would have been great next to the volume button.
Why not get her into a venza or rav4 limited? Both have a better laid out UI and more hard buttons. Going from CarPlay to the Toyota UI is so much easier. You just press the HOME button and boom you’re in the Toyota main menu
Thanks for sharing real ownership experience.
That whole infotainment stack from screen to center console trim looks horrible and will age badly.
The seats are *NOT* leather. Why does he keep saying "all leather" seats? Genuine leather seats are not available on the 2022 or 2023 Lexus NX 450h+.
I have the rav4 prime and won't even want this haha
Lexus For Life✊️
Biggest pro is the fact that this is a mature PHEV system that Toyota it's been perfecting over the last 2 decades. Nah I won't touch anything in Volvo, friends had problems with electrical system.
I am planning on cross shopping this and the new Kia Sportage 2023 PHEV(yes, I feel like Hyundai/Kia is at the same level as Lexus these days). I would love to have a comparison of the two in terms of quality, true MPG, and value.
I agree Hyundai kia are better these days than lexus
However everyone else on here will laugh at you for saying a brand with fire recalls is better than lexus
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!!!!
Sofyan, can you please review 2022 Audi q5 phev with a bigger battery pack? I am debating between Lexus NX 450h+ and Audi q5 phev.
Get the Audi Q5. It’s a better car in just about every way. Reliability isn’t relevant since it’s a luxury car. It has a few miles less range but it’s faster more dynamic more luxurious
Do the electric battery charge themselves?
Not sure that comparing this to the Rav4 Prime is a good comparison in terms of "what car should you buy" because Rav4 Prime is impossible to get. If it's a question of "what PHEV should you buy" you can get this, or you can get a non-Toyota model.
This vehicle costs too much for how compromised it is.
"Compromised" 👌👌 the best definition for Toyota products
Every Toyota? Camry venza LC ES is500 RC F?
@@naveenthemachine they all are inferior to their competitors. Camry to Accord. Venza to 2023 Sportage and current Tucson hybrids and PHEVs. LC to 4 series and IS500 to M340I. Toyota is the only brand you cant name one single model that is the best in their category. Always compromised in one way or another. Only brand loyalist would buy Toyota for the "expectation" of future reliability. Otherwise they are always behind in tech and performance. And now in price.
@@kizo172 I found no compromises with my Camry XSE v6. Has plenty of Tech, rides and handles great, the v6 has good power and it’s very smooth
@@naveenthemachine 😂😂😆😆🤣🤣
Your Camry is definitely compromised. You just don’t want to say it. What an apologist
@Ki Zo you’re 100% right. My accord is an infinitely better car than any Toyota Camry or Lexus ES and with a tune a better car than the IS almost matching the bmw 3 series.
@@naveenthemachine great car congrats. But compromises show when you compare it to other cars with 300hp which come with AWD and actually can put that much power into traction. I test drove ES350 the other day when my NX was in the shop. They way the front wheels were spinning and traction control flashing light and cutting power was not even funny. But guess what. King of compromise has put AWD in the engine that is so underpowered that doesnt need extra traction. Toyota has put AWD in 2.5 I4 with 200hp !
Is that manufactured in usa or japan?
head up display is standard on both 450h+ models
Why no pano ruff in the plug in hybrid?
The car has significantly less cargo space and interior room versus the rav4. Why would you buy an SUV if you don't have a ton of cargo space?
Also, run flats? Ugh.
My ford car play doesn’t boot up sometimes even connected by wire.
How was the windshield wide range on windows?
10000 more expensive than a rav4 prime (never mind dealers wanting 10-15k on top of that, out of their f'n minds if you asked me), bigger in exterior yet smaller inside, heavier, slower, less efficient overall, mentioned before but less cargo space, like this is a complete disaster. no one should buy this honestly.
It's a shame Honda Clarity plugin with 48 miles on pure electric is discontinued. It was ahead of it's time.
Love this dudes reviews
They expect a buyer to pay $10k to $15k more for a more efficient vehicle, and then turn around, because of the premium gas requirement, pay all your gas efficiency savings to big oil.
Lexus had such a huge opportunity with the NX redesign and they really did this instead. What a disappointment.
See my original comment. You just helped it
Great review
I'm in Az and I was told by two different dealerships that the 450h+ is only going to be available in Cali, Oregon and I'm not 100% sure but maybe also Washington. He said I couldn't even order one and they don't know how long this is going to last.
It's only being sold in 11 states. They are the zero emission vehicle states. (You can Google which ones they are) The Hyundai group's phevs are also only sold in those 11 states.
It's a bunch of crap!!! Plenty of people all over want phevs.
It’s a lie. They tell you that because they have 100 nx350 they want to sell you. I bought one literally in the same city after a neighboring dealership told me it’s only available in California.
I'm getting sick and tired of All reviewers, all the other car company's knocking Lexus,Ah they've should've done this ,they've should've changed that😡
If you know the Lexus moto if it ain't broke don't fix it! Lexus is in a league of there own. Luxury and "Reliability". There built to last unlike the german cars that fall apart after a few years. Those cars you should only lease. Lexus you can own to last forever. AND futher more in any part of the world ,whether it's Artic climate or Desert heat, you'll find a Toyota running perfectly fine...(mic drop 🎤)...p.s.Even James Bond drove a Toyota in No Time To Die! You see it's even good enough for Bond,JAMES Bond. 😏
Sofyan, it’s not kinda a NX!!! It is a NX!!! 😆 I died!!!
Does this come in 7 seat?
I prefer the subtle ambient light to the German cars. Theirs is overdone IMO, especially Mercedes. I like that Lexus does it a bit differently. I like PHEVs when they are plugged in and driven in EV mode most of the time. I think Lexus just needs to make more of them along with Toyota RAV 4 Prime.
Got one on order maybe get by July.
A lot more cabin sound and air seals. No place for cabin air to escape when you close door; so soft close would fix that.
6.09 in the wet easily translates to 5.6 or so in the dry. 6.09 vs 6.0 is a round error.
0-60 under 6 seconds for the fastest NX on sale is not great. That kind of time is totally okay for a Toyota but for a Lexus that much pricier?
You can't have Navigation without subscription???
I love everything about this vehicle except that it’s slower.. As the luxury version it should be faster
I thought the 450h was only offered in California. Maybe I'm wrong.
I hope Toyota makes more models with DIRECT 4.
One of the worse and bias reviews I have seen in a while. You obviously do not understand the mission of Lexus. Their mission is not to compete with the competition for fastest or greatest but to offer a great all-around product. You keep going on about your "pano roof". Panoramic roofs generally compromise in-cabin noise levels especially over time as the vehicle ages, and is not necessarily an upgrade per se, but your continuous mention denotes your level of competence for this kind of a forum. Maybe its a Millennial thing but if I were Lexus I would never sent a vehicle to someone who is incapable of even understanding its mission.
You seem to operate on the spectrum that gaudy, loud and in-your-face appearances and functionality translates into quality. You cannot appreciate that less is more. People who buy Lexus wants the reliablity and quality without the gaudiness. They appreciate conservative styling. Obviously, having "carplay" does not make a person (or a car) more attractive, does it?
This generation of people seem to always be "annoyed" and "unimpresssed" and things are "plain" and "boring" Its painfully uncomfortable watching you speed test the vehicle. You might have heard, "only boring people gets bored"..?
Quality, comfort, luxury, reliability, resale, and more than anyone can ask in a modern functional vehicle is what Lexus shoppers want. Throw in the excellent dealership experience and its worth much more that the "competition" you keep waxing about. A person looking for the Lexus badge is not interested in a Rave4 or worse, the Hyundai experience with your GV whatever.
He’s not entirely wrong. The nx is just a dressed up rav4. It also gets very expensive. In the luxury space the Rdx gv70 or even a cx5 make for a m compelling case than the nx. The nx is far from a poor built car. It’s built very well. But just being built well and reliable isn’t enough. If you want that why not get a Toyota and save the cash?
The gv70 shows that it’s less about the brand but more about the vehicle
@@naveenthemachine In your limited experience that might be true. Talk to me when you are able to personally experience any of these vehicles you so seem quick to yak about and also when your own hard earn money is on the line. Its so easy in these types of forums for folks to stand aside and spill their nonsense without any personal experience!
Yeah, someone at Lexus should have seen his sad face on the Oct review of the 350T in his pedal-to-metal test, before they sent him that one to review also. LOL. That is going to be fun. LOL. I am sure he is a nice guy and I was probably was the same in I bought my Audi and BMW in my late 20s/eary 30s. Needles to say, my proprities are totally changed after that period. I only hit the floorboard now in an emergency manner- never for the experience anymore. I like cars that start in the am and not to much time at a dealers shop. . Just running fast and "nicer interiors with lights' is so less important now. LOL
@@naveenthemachine in genral I agree, but if you just bought a base NX (in the upper 30k- low 40k) vs a upper trim Rav4, the NX would have some things that might be worth the slight premium. But still cheaper than any German car however you slice it. And been there and done that already, so the NX seems like a good relative value. IMHO
No pano roof is a deal breaker for many people, last year I went with an RDX for it, and its turbo charged engine which in 2021 models is quite superior to the Lexus NX. The new NX finally upped the HP, but no Panoramic roof? That’s a feature that should be standard on luxury SUVs.
Also the NX didn’t feel as roomy as many of its competitors. Sofyan did a good job in pointing out the strength and weaknesses of the vehicle.
This or 4xe?
Cloud /OTA Nav takes a minute to beam all your local info to the NXh.
Much better than Tesla Y or any EV under 100k
Premium fuel? Doesn’t that negate any fuel savings? Also, why?
It doesn’t have a turbo, so I agree that there’s no reason for premium gas only
Nice new kicks, Sofyan!!! 👍
Prime with luxury and more weight (2 more HP = Wow!)
Its really a seven thousand dollar difference. You can put a diamond and gold roof on a vehicle and make it 10 million dollars more. It has better leather, a HUD, more safety tech, better screens, bigger more premium wheels and etc etc. As an owner of 2 RAV4 Primes, the demand for that vehicle is also higher. Selling for well over sticker price. It is very difficult to lease a hybrid in any configuration. Besides these two vehicles, I'd never buy a car. Leasing is 10 times better. The exception was these, that I can sell now for more than I paid. Improved gas savings with a Lexus for about seven thousand more is funny to me. The RAV4 to save money on fuel is funny to me. You are spending way more for fuel costs you will recover in about 10 years. The 7500 rebate is applicable in some areas for people like me to throw more money on the pile of money, that I already hav. That's funny. Leasing , the 7500 is not applicable. So, leases get damaged by tax rebates and demand increases monthly costs. The only thing that helps is keeping its value after 36 or 39 months and maintenance savings.
I mean it´s a good premium SUV but I think it´s a little bit to expensive for a Compact SUV.
Tbh I wouldn’t call this premium. The interior is barely nicer than a rav4 limited
Yeah at over $60k this seems priced too ambitiously to me, especially considering all the compromises and requiring premium fuel.
@@Stressless2023 and a 2022 premium car must have as a option a pano roof and a very good sound system and heated seats in the rear, maybe ventilated seats, this car is not really on a luxury brand standard but it´s reliable.
@@alengreen589 you can get all those minus ventilated rear seats in a rav4 for less lol
@@naveenthemachine yes thats sad for a Lexus.
I don’t understand why they would omit their top features on their top model, namely Mark Levinsom audio ad pano roof. Is this a supply issue?
Interior material quality seems so cheap
So you recommend the Rav4 prime? I love your review as I am cross shopping Rav4 Prime and 450h+.
The interior of a Nissan Rogue Platinum blows the NX away!!!
Agreed. Imo Even a Camry XSE interior blows the nx away
Great Review.
Mazda CX-5 loaded 40k! That's a lot of fuel. If you want the pano roof wait for the CX50. Mazda= minimalist class!