Apex Pro Mod, MAKE IT 10x BETTER!!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Modding the SteelSeries Apex Pro, lets fix these stabilizers, and lets make this board 10x better!
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You did a good job with lubing those stabilizers without having to desolder the switches to get the stabilizers out. With my friend’s keyboards I’ve done this to make their stabilizers less rattly.
crazy technology
Why would you need to desolder? Hall effect switches aren't soldered on because the "actuation" happens on the board not in the switch. The switch is there just to hold the magnet that the sensor is detecting.
im not risking this on a keyboard I've wanted for so long and finally have gotten it, that sounds amazing compared to the stock but I just can't
Keyboards that have a hot swappable pcb generally makes it easier to lube but if you were to have the soldering, you have to do it before assembling or desolder
Well if you have no experience yeah makes sense, but he is experienced and he has done things like this before, but he didn't ask you to
@@TEMPOZ5127
Lol, didn't he ruin one?
@@JL-ix5io experience comes with failure and success, so even tho he might have ruined one now ur seeing the success
Just try to lube it but maybe do not do the band aid mod
Thank you sir. Friends and family thought I was ridiculous when I shared that I was bothered by the poor sound (rattle) of some of my keys. Clearly, I wasn't the only one. I must have watched 25 videos on modding custom keyboards (tape, hole mod, dialectic, lubing switches and stabilizers), but when I dissected the Apex Pro, it wasn't the same animal. Your video saved me from (unquestionably) trashing my stabilizers and the board. I followed your blueprint to the letter and now every key on the keyboard thocks. They all sound like a premium product. I am beyond happy with the space bar sound now (thock, no rattle). I purchased the products and tools on your recommendation. I did end up using Krytox, but everything, including the brand of bandaids was on point. I also bought the prism key caps which are on order. Thank you so much.
bro balls
Just finished modding my Apex Pro TKL with the methods described and really happy with the results. The stabs really had me disappointed with this keyboard and out of the box it's really a let down. Shame that Steelseries didn't lube from factory because this really makes a huge difference for such a small amount of lube and tape
Just did this to my Apex Pro TKL and it's definitely an improvement! I thought my spacebar and backspace were just gonna keep sounding cheap until I found this video. 👏
imagine paying over $200 for a keyboard and worrying it to sound or do whatever "cheap"
@@vladimirv.g.1436 If i pay for a 200 dollar keyboard (which I have, I own this keyboard) I expect every single key to sound..as you guessed it, a 200 dollar keyboard should. the space bar and backspace sound extremely cheap compared to the rest of the keyboard. so yes, I'm going to worry if I pay for 200 dollars plus shipping and I have 2 keys that sound like ass despite paying 200 for this. "imagine paying over $200 for a keyboard and worrying it to sound or do whatever cheap". that's the stupidest thing anyone has ever said.
@@notbappo2435 ?
VLADIMIR is totally right. @@notbappo2435 I wouldn't worry about how it sounds. It's how it works that win ya games not and I repeat not how it sounds ROFLMAO ... OMG It sounds a Lil cheap. LMAO people, get a life !!! It's how it works not how it sounds that's important. I use the Pro and I own 2 of them and I don't care if either one sounds like an old grass cutter as long as either PRO does what it should when I press the key down to win me games and gives me an edge over the enemy's keyboard. And after all, isn't that the bottom line on how it works NOT how it sounds. ☠
@@CutthroatMcRage so if you don't care, others shouldn't either? And you tell them to get a life? Your argument makes no sense whatsoever..
They have a life and they are doing what makes them happy. Improving an aspect of a product they didn't fully enjoy.
What are you doing on the other hand? Posting negative comments on youtube. You're the one who should get a life bud...
I personally think the band-aid mod isn’t really needed as after just living the stab there was nearly 0 rattle! Reason being the build quality is already really solid and overall the stabs don’t move around to much, so if you are scared that you’ll ruin your board just lube em, no need for band aids!
Was wondering about this, thanks for the tip!
you are lucky, because there are some of those units that got ``overlubed`` stabs and that took away the rattle
My stabs are incredibly rattle. They move a good 10 cm back and forth
what do u mean"living"?
That dielectric grease wont really be doing as much as it could if you were able to actually lube all the way around the stabilizer wire. If you're able to solder, you can always desolder the switches that are between the stabs and swap out the stabs for durock plate mounts. But if you're buying a prebuilt you probably don't wanna solder or unsolder anything lol
Hi, I've purchased the apex 9 bored which has hot swappable keys. I'm guessing that means I can lube the stabilizers properly without having to unsolder anything right?
sorry I'm not all that knowledgeable on building keyboards
@@geckomkii3916 Yes, you probably will have to remove all of the switches to get the stabilizers out without damaging anything though. Just look up any video of putting together a hotswap keyboard and do that backwards
@@sxnthwave awesome, thanks! was starting to think lubing the stabilizers were going to be a pain. but if I can do it knowing I won't be throwing money down the drain then I'm happy
Thanks techne I did the band-aid mod and this convinced me to want to also lube the stabs and get new keycaps your video tutorial was great to follow along with and helped alot
awesome! so glad I was able to help.
This definitely was a beginners guide. As a keeb enthusiast who’s soldered a couple of boards in the past and has had there hands on a lot of keebs you could definitely get MUCH better sound from this keyboard but you would need to be a little ballsy to take a part your keyboard
Agreed, you could do a lot more with the board
Like what
What do I do once I have MUCH better sound coming out of my keyboard?
@@pipipopo3687 ahegao keycaps.
you would have to take apart the keyboard, and individually lube the switches and stabs
I went from the huntsman to the apex pro but 2 months later I went back to huntsman. What I like about the razer huntsman is that the keys don't go too down as other keyboard and I really love the feel of that. It feels quicker and firmer.
The apex pro has adjustable switches so
Apex Pro has adjustable keys because theyre Hall Effect, plus they last longer too
Band aided the spacebar, just lubed the rest, worked really, really well. Night and day difference. Can you ask Steelseries for PBT keycaps that aren't pudding.
Well my Apex 7 TKL sounded absolutely horrible out of the box with rattling stabilizers especially the space bar. Surprised by how cheap it sounded for the price. Well I did every step in this video, and honestly nothing too scary if you're really gentle with the stabilizers. Now it sounds and feels amazing. Also added a bit of foam inside the board.
Gonna try this one!
That would have been the perfect transition to the introduction of The Techne gears style desk mat.
It would be super cool if you could show us more apex pro mods ^^
did this to my HyperX Alloy Origins a while back. definitely helps. But the stabs suck, modding them will improve it but even if its 50% better, its still bad.. Either way, liked and heres my comment for the algorithm
Try holee modding it (search it up)
@@ducreamious2 hard if you dont take the stabs out
@@chunkymonkeeey i frogot if the alloy is hot swap, if it is, then take the stabs out...
@@ducreamious2 yeah exactly
I had a Apex Pro TKL. I ended up returning it. It needs a detachable cable and smaller LEDs that don't limit what keycaps you can use.
Had one set of PBT that needed the some of the injection molding clipped where it was rubbing the led, fit perfectly after that.
Just the video i needed especially when i can't find any other mod vids
So, there might be a few people who can't hear the difference, I would recommend listening through good headphones with a proper equaliser setup because there is a very noticeable reduction in spring reverb, stabilizer rattle and high pitched switch rebound, great video, mate!
More thock, less click!
ugh these videos make me sooo jealous because I use a crappy half-broken membrane keyboard that's like 10 years old lol. I wish I had a better keyboard like this ): Great vid!
Bro get a job and buy one
Membrane isnt that bad i have the apex 3 and i feel like its faster than my rk61 blue switches
@@TEMPOZ5127 💀
Can you do this mod on any Steel Series mechanical keyboard? Because I have the apex 7 and I wondered if I could do it on the red switches. Thanks!
Can you mod the fnatic streak 65? Would love to see this video
You got my subscribe at "yall know I dont script"
Bought a brand new apex pro tkl then stumbled across this video did it to all the stabilizers and then as I am doing it on the enter key I accidentally popped it out sadly. Luckily I do have some soldering expereince and am going to fix it this weekend.
ohhhh man. ouch, same thing happened to me, right on the last one
I followed your guide Techne and man it made a huge fucking difference. My roommate who hated the spacebar rattle of the Apex Pro now can't even tell when I'm hitting it, so much quieter and thockier.....thanks a lot man!
Also you can wedge some cotton or sponge into the stabilizers to reduce the rattle even more (look up a guide). My spacebar now has literally 0 rattle. I have high end prebuilt boards that don't sound as good as the Apex Pro does now.
7:00 I like to call this moment Baldi’s basics.😁
yep long time ago. even added foam and did the tape mod.
u try lubing the Omni point switches? I want to don’t wanna risk breaking it, and how’d u add the foam, was it relatively easy? Any vid links for the foam mod and tape mod
Thanks. I did things a little differently with the band-aid (safer, I didn't slide them inside the PCB) and now my Apex Pro TKL sounds amazing! I didn't lubricate the stabilizers, and still its WOW effect!
can i ask how to do it safer?
I wish there as a apex pro tkl v2 bc that keyboard could use some more upgrades like double shot pbt keycaps and a USB type C port for the cable. 60% form factor and better stabs.
TKL is best
@@drewhummer8305 personal preference
Been seeing your videos a lot whenever I'd do research on new peripherals, but only remembered to subscribe now. My bad.
Since 2020's lockdowns and the start of my working-from-home journey, you've been the cool, supportive, tech-savvy uncle I never had. Thank you.
Techne, I have a suggestion for a product that I think has great potential as a $30 starting budget streaming mic, its called The Raleno USB Microphone on Amazon, it really has potential, when you have time you could review if you want because I know you have other stuff to review
I got the keyboard about a week ago, and I needed this video! Thanks Techne :)
Thank u for watching
@@TheTechne Np, been subbed for a while now. Keep it up :D
don't fuck it up bro, good luck
@@Dhsbsnskd just prolly gonna get the hyperx pudding keycaps, but I’m not in a rush to do so.
me: not able to buy 1 apex pro.
techne: buying 2 apex pro's everyday
me: >-
Taeha looking in the distance with his $2000 custom keyboard
@@andrewfang2754 me laughing at Taeha with my $99 keyboard and $1901 more dollars.
People spend $1000 on keyboards btw
Ok this may be improving the keyboard from a keyboard enthusiast stand point but the apex pro is made for performance and pro play. Not for typing and making it look better. That’s what other boards are for
It doesn't harm anything, it's just an extra to make your experience much pleasant, but not to gain any advantage. Keyboard's a keyboard, and people are willing to make any sort of improvements with feel. But as I said, it's just an extra; something optional.
Agreed, it doesnt hurt performance in any way, so why jot
Bro steelseries spex pro is still good feeling and good looking
@@joona8201 Gotcha, it's great pre-built. Again, It's just an extra to make it feel better
Mama already forgot that it’s a project
Techne: your friends are making fun of you for you keyboard
My friends: what is a gaming keyboard
Yeah when I tried to bandaid mod my apex pro that same thing happened to me but I didn't do anything about it but it sounded so much better with the lube also
When I tried to pull up the stabilizer on my spacebar I quickly realized that it will require way more force than I am comfortable to use to get it to move. I don't know if my unit has tighter tolerances but it felt like it would not budge a single millimeter. So I will just leave this mod for those who dare, not risking it.
Ok so I am pretty much a keeb enthusiast and maker. This was definitely a beginners guide. He did not modify the stabs correctly at all, but they managed to sound ok. He also didn’t lube the switches, foam mod it, or film the switches. Good vid tho
Hey I'm 13 I just picked up the sk61 and I don't know how to do any mod can you help ?
@@lupequintero9601 Cotton up the bottom of the case, add 1-2 layers of foam, tempest mod the pcb, holee mod and lube the stabs, lube switches.
Optional:
Get better switches if it comes with shit ones (Gateron Cap V2 Milkys is my recommendation)
Buy everglide plate mount stabs and mod them the same as the default ones (way better than the default stabs)
O ring mount the board (you probably need to order the o rings)
PE Foam mod the PCB if you can find the correct PE foam (the community doesn't know which one to get yet, so this is lowest prio imo)
@@Gr3gl_ Thank you big time I'll will tell you when I'm done im going to buy them in store rn!!
@@lupequintero9601 I just used tampons for the cotton, I have a gk64 and there's little rectangles that is a pain to fill with foam so I assume the sk61 is similar
@@lupequintero9601 yes watch my mod on a reddragon k552. It is similar and all of the steps are there. The video will be up within a few days
Techne please don’t ever quit RUclips your such a inspiration
I promise :)
@@TheTechne well, if you pass then
For my Apex Pro the stabs have been pre-lubed surprisingly, so if you have ore-lubed once’s i think this mod is unnecessary as they have done a hell good job with lubing the stabs!
Yeah they defiantly weren’t pre lubed unless somebody owned it before you and did it themselves. The stabs might sound rattle free which is good but they aren’t pre lubed
The board I had was new I believe newer models of the Apex pro have some lube applied on it through the factory, I am not 100% sure but I believe that’s what they’ve done!
I probably wouldn’t do the band aid mod, but perhaps one day I’ll lube my Apex pro TKL 2023. Also I’m definitely going to buy the Prism caps sooner or later.
I ended up desoldering the keys, and replaced the stab with aftermarket stabs. Bandaid mod can help so much.
I feel like the bandaid mod isnt worth the risk especially for unexpirienced people. Its basically just for the bottom out and with the possibility of having a whacky solder thats gonna break with the slightest motion yeah... dont think so. Personally i even like a harder bottom out. Lube on the other hand is basically riskfree (you literally just put a brush in 10 spots per key) and the result makes a huge difference with most of the rattle removed.
That bandaid trick helped so much on my space bar thank you
the music has improved so much since you had 10k subs 👏🏾
It's an easy fix for your ruined apex pro you got to desolder the 4 RGB pin from the PCB then you can pull the "OmniPoint Switch" it's a hot swap PCB for the omni point switch (but bicuze the LEDs sit on the switch and the leds 4 pins is soldier to the PCB you cant pull the switch)
Then you can remove the stabs take them apart and reinstall them it's a plate mounted stabs
will just do the lube and change the key caps to white and black pudding key caps, band aid mod is too risky cuz i just got this beast of a keyboard.
you can also lube the switches. It makes it sound and feel even better.
No, dont lube the apex pro
It will block the lasers in the apex pro and it wont work
@@grab8119 nah its not a laser. its a magnet and it doesn't disturb it. i lubed it like a month ago still working fine.
sounds really good as well
@@brianchao2444 k be careful, if u mess up it can break tho
de soldering that board is a living hell it took me week
i always wondered how much you can push with the mods in this keyboard and why nobody took the risk, see your sacrifice the keyboard it make me move
6:58 he took the hat off :O
"so, you just bought your apex pro" perfect
Naaaaah, he stole it
Might have to ditch the huntsman TE and get the apex
It’s not worth it really
@@Straightfacts4 thanks for your opinion 👍
Now I've got the apex 9 mini I can finally compare it to the razor huntsman mini there both really high in keyboard but if where talk stoke the apex win the huntsman could sound much better but it takes so long to get the switches out and you can't get new ones for it for the apex mini win
Well done on those stabs for not fully taking them out they sound good I could only notice some ticking on the right and left shift which is probably from unbalanced wires still great job though
Nice, thank You. Now can you find a way to fix the damn cable! Thiccccc boi needs to be slimmed down, since you have the spare? 👏
Make it a duct tape mod and you'll have a winner :)
I did this with mine a few months ago and finally have it the way I want it. Good job
Just followed these steps and it made the rattle go away! Amazing tutorial, sub'd. Thank you so much!!!
i feel for 230euro keyboard they should be already be that good that you don't need to think to make it better...
This keyboard is perfect. Period!
he is so funny. Makes my day better.
Bro if they make a 60 percent with Omni point switches it would sell out fast.
I want a 65%
The band-aid mod sounds too risky for me, but if I only lube the stabs, will that improve the sound too?
yeah a little bit but it wont remove the rattle
Techne is a closet hip hop artist
i actually unsoldered my spacebar key and lubed the switch and it still works
"Techne"cally it is a custom board with the adjustable switches and rgb lighting
would you recommend the apex pro cause its pretty expensiv, you also could give a bit more to buy the corsair k100 or razer analog, or is the apex pro still better?
after using the apex pro ITS INCREDIBLE, the keyboard sounds decent in the non stabilizer parts, as long as you use the prism caps. Always use the prism caps, lubbing the board is a great idea as well. Wouldn't risk the band aid mod though.
in short, sound: Base caps = switches, ok, stabs, bad. Prism caps = switches, great, stabs, ok. With stab loob = switches, great, stabs, great
@@masonmasterz6906 okay thanks
Can you do a full review on Gamakay K87 RGB keyboard? Thanks, Btw Nice video very helpful and informative.
my space bar did the rubber band mod perfectly but my left shit stabs wont fit the rubber band and i dont want to force it so i left it, but GOD DAM DOES THE SPACE BAR SOUND HELLA GOOD its like an actually good mod that works fine, love the mod a lot.
"Just a little better" TITLE:
HoW tO mAkE iT 10 tImEs BeTtEr
it was 100x better :)
I like the apex pro 2023, but I hate the fact that it doesnt have onboard RBG memory when on bluetooth
Hello,
I tried this with the stabilizers and the band Aids. I pulled one of the stabilizer to much out and it popped out. When I understand correct, it is unfixable, but maybe you meant something else, my English is not so well.
So what I wanted to tell, in my case i managed to fix it. It was not easy, but is is fixable, the keyboard is not unusable!!!
(I don't had to open the keyboard)
Can you lube the switches on the broken one? No one tried that before.
I think that would be a bad idea since it is a very precise opto-mechanical switch. This means that if anything blocks the laser beam that shoots under the switch, the switch just wont actuate...
Very nice camera angles 👌
Thanks man
to lube switches i’d recommend using krytox 205g0
not going to do the band aid part but will do the rest I suppose
when i first used a steelseries keyboard its moto thingy for glory i though it was from a book i read lol
Don't put o-rings on if you use rapid trigger, 0.2 and they don't register right.. believe me I just tock all off righting and stuff were okay but play CS and cod it didn't work!!!!!!!
i lubed the switches and it makes it better
its $47 because the prismacaps are 30 plus 17 for grease and g lube.
Wait I just noticed you have the same glasses as me
Love the intro beat in the background
best sounding apex in a while
Also Techne I have a additional question, can you spray lube the omnipoint switches?
Don’t spray lube anything, it will always ruin a couple switches.
(Except if you have the fake korean spray lube)
never sprayed any switches before, but I honestly love the feel and sound of the stock apex switches
Yeah true I think the apex pros switches are very smooth and sound great stock which is a real plus for this keyboard, but the stabs not so much!
I'm not going to do this lol but I am going to buy one of these for my birthday in a few weeks, keycaps too 😁
I got an Apex pro, came broken with the OLED screen and every time my pc would boot up with it would crash my pc when I would unplug it and try a different keyboard it would be fine. Steelseries wouldn't take it back
idk about og apex pro but i do know the apex pro 2023 is better than the apex 7. but is it needed on the apex new versions?
7:00 i have never seen you before and did not expect you to have no hair. It kinda scared me how much it changes ur look. U look funny on both perspectives tho.
On my 2023 version I didnt notice any difference between the stabilised keys and the others.
you dont need to spend to spend hours lubing the switches, just use tape on the pcb
Think I’ll just try the key caps ty!
If he didnt lube the switched then why does it seem the keys withought stabilisers sound better? Or is that justme
An inter dental brush is the best tool to lube stabs.
did the same mod to my Blackwidow V3 TKL, man these new stabs on gaming keyboards suck ass
apex pro mini hotswapable switches + and a switchable cable 😻
Even though I have an SK64 with every modification out there on mine. I still want an apex pro. I'm not rich, so not soon lol (gonna have to save for it)
id take sk64 anyday over apex pro
i will try this
the pattern of the rhyme was ABBA
I bought this keyboard to replace my huntsman mini and the keys are so bad compared to razers and way louder than my red switches from razed. I really like the screen and I also like the slightly faster actuation. But honestly I think huntsman mini red switches is better for the money
They feel dry though
Dont have an apex pro probably not going to get one but still watched
sounds like a pro