The reason for them not including the omnipoint switches everywhere on the keyboard is cost no one will ever use the feature on their function keys and no one wants to pay $20 for useless switches
I like Steelseries a lot. I'm also danish, so I grew up with their stuff being pushed heavily on the early Scandinavian pro gaming scene, like the Icemat, Steelpad and Qck literally 20+ years ago before they were even called Steelseries. They've innovated with mousepads, keyboards and affordable gaming headsets and definetly had their ups and downs when it comes to quality. Them cutting corners here does not come as a surprise as their products have been very hit and miss for years. I switched to Logitech a few years ago, but i've been looking at some of their stuff cause it seems to be great value as long as you don't buy the flagship keyboards.
i dont understand why you even want omnipoint switches on the rest of your keyboard. I think the reason why we dont get them on funktion keys and arrow keys are that we dont really use them. I dont use them, its just an excuse to hate on the brand and the products they release. And its not only the omnipoints or the branding that makes this keyboard expensive, its also the build quality. The rubust feeling of the keyboard is very nice and if you got it you know that it aint gonna break, and the nice features that come with the keyboard is also a reason why the price is so high. Dont hate on products you cant afford.
Personally you can mod a apex pro tkl to be almost the same as the 2023 one for a third of the price so I don’t think I’m gonna buy this keyboard personally if you already have a apex pro tkl don’t buy this one definitely not worth it in my opinion
I think you should have covered what these keyboards can do within GG. It's absolutely a true deep dive into configuring your own personal keyboard. IMO the old RGB's had a terrible rep for dying out. Love the new RGB.
@@griffsmotorthings you are saying the rgb actually died or got dimmed out on some buttons? For that price? wow.... I got a G.Skill km570 RGB I've had for almost 7 years I got for around $80 it was $100 retail and the fonts and lights are still like new on it. Only problem is the buttons got real shiny on the ones I use the most. and the space bar gets rattly sometimes. but the thing has survived alot of abuse I didn't think RGB dying on a kb was really a thing. Its a shame it wasn't that well received. the only KB G.Skill make now is a $50 65% kb, the km250 which just came out a couple weeks ago. pudding caps and kaihl reds with I think 68 keys including volume control. Its literally blowing away the competition at that price point and of course noone is even talking about it. People deserve these overpriced heaps of junk I guess.
i think its better to have the 2 different switches as the keyboard will be cheaper as im guessing the switches are more expensive that the red switches but i get your point though
Big thank you for showing that the switches are different for different keys. I had no idea and didn't see this mentioned in other reviews. That's a deal breaker for me as the switches are the whole reason I was looking at this keyboard. You saved me from making the wrong purchase. Thanks!
2:17 I my HUMBLE opinion I think it is not necessary to have a whole 84 (apex pro tkl doesn't have print screen, scroll lock and pause break button) omnipoint switches. Why do you need them for your arrow keys? Who plays using arrow keys in almost 2023, 99.99999999% of people use them only with youtube. I am even glad they put them only in the 60% area, because the price would be even higher.
tbh from you i can keep up with like quieter brands and I appreciate your channel a lot. im praying if the Viper Mini wireless comes out I can see your review cause you got no BS.
You complain about missing omnipoint whatever, but you dont explain what they are and why are they better... think about the fact that not everyone knows the subject in detail
Been waiting for this review. I recently bought the wired version, but had to return it due to the shift keys feeling as if they were rubbing against something, especially the left one. I exchanged it for another one, but haven't even opened the box, because I wanted to hear your opinion of the board. The board does feel lighter and cheaper than I thought it would. But not being a kb enthusiast, it sounded much better, and the keys feel much smoother, than the Corsair K70 tkl I use. I'm also considering the Wooting 60he instead, though I'm wary of having to pay full price up front, but having to wait a couple of months (barring unforseen setbacks) to receive the board. But yeah, this thing's going back to Best Buy tomorrow. 😄
I just bought the Apex 9 for about 175$, because I thought that the Apex Pro was too expensive. The wired version goes for around 240 dollars (my country doesn't use dollars, hence the oddly specific numbers). Was that a bad purchase? I haven't recieved it yet so I can still refund it. I am not a professional gamer and barely play shooters. Edit: appearently it is quite a lot more expensive where I live, for some reason.
The Apex Pro TKL 2023 features our Omnipoint 2.0 adjustable switches with 11x quicker response and 10x swifter actuation! It has a wider range of Adjustable Actuation points of 0.2-3.8 mm compared to the previous 0.4mm to 3.6mm. This keyboard also features Double actuation, meaning you can program two actions to a single key, depending on how you press it. Along with Quantum 2.0 Dual Wireless connection, so you can connect to devices either by ultra-fast 2.4GHz connection or Bluetooth 5.0 (available for wireless model only). There is no longer the Illumination tab in Engine when you click on your device, instead there is a blue bar at the top of the window when you click on your keyboard in Engine. For more information on how to adjust the illumination on your keyboard go HERE.
Thanks for this review. I picked up an Arctis Nova 7X headset and was looking to unify some hardware with a new keyboard and its interesting to see Steelseries still isn't giving customers what they want even though the keyboard space is getting so competitive. Guess I am skipping Steelseries for another 5 years or more, again.
@Too Much Tech. You answered your own question. The reason why those "competitive" oriented switches ( magnetic / rapid trigger ) are not present on the entirety of the keyboard is two-fold. 1 ) they are not needed and 2 ) the cost savings of not having to populate the keyboard with additional keys is passed on to the consumer. I just picked the 2023 TKL wired version up for $125 when it was on sale very briefly not long ago. BTW, more manufactures will be introducing magnetic switch based keyboards in 2024. A few videos were recently shared with me and can you say "gasket magnetic thocky volume knob" 3 x real fast? LOL. Good things coming.
1:35 Whaaaat? You'd think they'd at least put them on the arrow keys too, but I get why SteelSeries would do that. Would OmniPoint switches be useful on keys like PgUp and PgDown? Probably not right? 🤔
i got one and i think its worth the overprice as it looks and feels top drawer. this is my 4th keyboard and i know im going to keep collecting. im an illustrator and photographer and its part of my combination art and computer station. its fun and gorgeous and i dig the little oled screen.
getting the older one now because there is a massive sale on it and I would love a USB passthrough to connect my keyboard/mouse pad. I am replacing my Apex M800 as the keycaps are desintegrating.
the wired cost 240 usd here in Denmark. but im happy with mine, i opgrade it from apex 7 tkl. dont care abut sound, all gamers use headset anyway. but i think the sound is different her 10 month later, mine is quiet, or just put O ring in it if youy have ocd. After 14 days, most people dont care abut design, sound, and all that, its all abaut how it feels in a game in the end.
Yes, it's pretty much all about performance, ergonomics and build quality. Yeah, I get it, if you're spending that much money you want something that looks dapper but after a couple of days it doesn't really matter. And it's not like a Mac that was really designed by top people.
I have both the OG pro tlk feels and better looks better. Nice keyboard to have on desk. The new switches are more responsive. So from gaming POV 2023 is better but everything else OG is nicer
I dont mind that there not all OmniPoints casue you dont use those keybinds in game at all. I have a Wired Apex pro tkl from 2019 and im looking to upgrade and in all the games i have played i havnt used a single one of those switches
man completely bashed SteelSeries. And a bunch of "IMO" comments. No diving into what is good for your needs or for you just bashed the new iteration. Wont be back for future reviews lol not sure how it was a review at all.
I think the omipoint switshes is nice its very smoth, but thats the only reson to get the keyboard, dealbrekers is whey are soldred, and the keyboard is to flimsy and cheap build bout the old and whis new one. i was considerd the old version a while,,but think i buy a keychron K8 pro or Q3 insded..
Can someone pls awnser, now that u can't change your lighting on the screen can u change it on your laptop than unconnected it and connect it to your Xbox will it still have the same lighting?
@@Viggen37 yeah i have the original and am happy but it kinda sucks for the people who upgraded for the new switches only to get scammed. good thing i didn't upgrade though :)
COULDNT agree more with the reviewer. quality and design is a downgrade, should also put omnis on whole kb not just 60% area. also the software needs refinement, the rgb stuff aint so customisable as the previous version of apex pro. and FML in first 30 minutes of use, the lil oled screen on the kb got a white vertical line on screen. heyo steelseries pls recheck your quality checks, dont be like razer...
@@TooMuchTech from what i noticed over a small search on the internet the oled screen was a ''weak'' point since first apex pro. and this bs carried over to the 2023 model.
@@guilhermegms7557 in my opinion previous model feels a lil bit more sturdy.. more quality and design also better... not by huge margin... but new one has better keycaps if u plan to keep the stock... switches are same... cable is detachable compared to the fixed one previous version had. Which was very thick and uncomfortable. Either way u go they are good keyboards... hands down better than trash kbs from razer... i recommend them... to be honest iam fanboy of steelseries when it comes to keyboards... if new one comes.. ill definately buy...other option is the wooting one... just saying. If u feel comfortable giving 200plus euros for keyboard.. then go for it.
I got that keyboard and i totaly agree with your review. Whatcher 2-3 more reviews, but yours is absoulte honest and accurate. Its realy great keyboard, but that softwere ... the only way to fix softwere is to not instal it, or uninstal it. I was using Razer keyboard before and i have to say, that i willing to pay razer 50 dolars, just to use thayre softwere on steelseries keyboard.
@@onuridvan crazy happy bro just get it you won't notice the difference with the new one and for these that do it's just placebo lol if you're good already it doesn't matter
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I bought one on release day, nope sent it back third day because of the battery life was terrible and basically had to keep it plugged in, also it felt cheap. That day is when I unsubbed from certain hype tech guys. Thanks for being honest.
so the keyboard suks.. it resets the actuation time to 1.8 after every sleep/unsleep cycle to 1.8 you can see it on oled screen in keyboard or software if using onboard profile
I have the old apex full keyboard I’ve always used it on ps4 and 5. It works great for my first keyboard I didn’t realize how good it was when I bought it
I was looking at purchasing this keyboard because my old Apex Pro is starting to have issues but knowing that this has two types of switches is a huge downside. And the fact that it's still mostly plastic for about $200 is so disgraceful. I think I'll move away from SteelSeries now completely.
About the switches, no one uses arrow keys in modern day gaming (small percentage sure) again same with function keys, they are so high up and hardly used except mainly for mmos and such again small percentage so I am ffine having the main keyboard having only omnipoint switches
Nice review! But it looks more like an opinion on what prices Steelseries should charge for their different models and how much they should be differentiated. Which leaves me a bit confused - one complain is that a lower priced model has inferior RGB (not sure why it is part of this review), another is that this high priced model looks much like a lower priced model. So, not sure if they should differentiate less on more.
Interesting review, thanks so much for your insight😁. I felt that the steel series Apex 7 or Apex pro were my choices for a new keyboard. But after doing some research about faulty components and now that the pro isn't what it seems. Funny how theres a really good sale on Steel series keyboards in my area. I may have to rethink, any other keyboards that you would recommend? Or is the Steelseries Apex 7 still alright?
great review man. i been looking to replace my keyboard from 5 years thats starting to die/keys get stuck in sofware not hardware and yea it been a good run but i need a reccomendation from someone with knowledge about them, i dont know if a 65% or a 100% make a difference or with one to get
The reason for them not including the omnipoint switches everywhere on the keyboard is cost no one will ever use the feature on their function keys and no one wants to pay $20 for useless switches
Shouldnt even be extra $20.. with this kind of price its a crime that they did this
But the website says Omnipoint 2.0 switches by default? You cant change that.
Cost? The keyboard is already damn near $300
The wooting 60he has a full-size keyboard that comes with full analog on every switch and is only $180 for an objectively better keyboard.
@@averagejackmedia609I agree. For $300 keyboard I’m expecting omnipoint terminator quantum switches everywhere
I like Steelseries a lot. I'm also danish, so I grew up with their stuff being pushed heavily on the early Scandinavian pro gaming scene, like the Icemat, Steelpad and Qck literally 20+ years ago before they were even called Steelseries. They've innovated with mousepads, keyboards and affordable gaming headsets and definetly had their ups and downs when it comes to quality. Them cutting corners here does not come as a surprise as their products have been very hit and miss for years. I switched to Logitech a few years ago, but i've been looking at some of their stuff cause it seems to be great value as long as you don't buy the flagship keyboards.
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Yeah, from my experience and everything i hear SteelSeries has a lot of devices with connectivity issues and I'm definitely switching .
i dont understand why you even want omnipoint switches on the rest of your keyboard. I think the reason why we dont get them on funktion keys and arrow keys are that we dont really use them. I dont use them, its just an excuse to hate on the brand and the products they release. And its not only the omnipoints or the branding that makes this keyboard expensive, its also the build quality. The rubust feeling of the keyboard is very nice and if you got it you know that it aint gonna break, and the nice features that come with the keyboard is also a reason why the price is so high. Dont hate on products you cant afford.
btw u can update the firmware of the old one to get 0.2 mm actuation within steelseries gf software
Personally you can mod a apex pro tkl to be almost the same as the 2023 one for a third of the price so I don’t think I’m gonna buy this keyboard personally if you already have a apex pro tkl don’t buy this one definitely not worth it in my opinion
How can you mod the wired version can you pls let us know 🙏🏽
I think you should have covered what these keyboards can do within GG. It's absolutely a true deep dive into configuring your own personal keyboard. IMO the old RGB's had a terrible rep for dying out. Love the new RGB.
which one is brighter on rgb terms the old or new?
@@HXISE The RGB previously was low quality, so if it was brighter, it wasn't lasting long. New ones are untouchable. Go new.
@@griffsmotorthings you are saying the rgb actually died or got dimmed out on some buttons? For that price? wow.... I got a G.Skill km570 RGB I've had for almost 7 years I got for around $80 it was $100 retail and the fonts and lights are still like new on it. Only problem is the buttons got real shiny on the ones I use the most. and the space bar gets rattly sometimes. but the thing has survived alot of abuse I didn't think RGB dying on a kb was really a thing. Its a shame it wasn't that well received. the only KB G.Skill make now is a $50 65% kb, the km250 which just came out a couple weeks ago. pudding caps and kaihl reds with I think 68 keys including volume control. Its literally blowing away the competition at that price point and of course noone is even talking about it. People deserve these overpriced heaps of junk I guess.
@@cooloutac The Apex 3 model was $50. I haven't heard of any of SteelSeries having RGB issues in the last few years, especially on their $100+ models
@@griffsmotorthings ill pass tks lol
i think its better to have the 2 different switches as the keyboard will be cheaper as im guessing the switches are more expensive that the red switches but i get your point though
bro, their markup is literally ridiculous. You are paying for their namebrand lmao... don't let them fool you like that.
Big thank you for showing that the switches are different for different keys. I had no idea and didn't see this mentioned in other reviews. That's a deal breaker for me as the switches are the whole reason I was looking at this keyboard. You saved me from making the wrong purchase. Thanks!
the original version felt so much better to type with
great stuff bruh. liked your video. 2 years apex 7 user; it was so much better; quality, sound, the feel of it, damn, aint the same no more....
2:17 I my HUMBLE opinion I think it is not necessary to have a whole 84 (apex pro tkl doesn't have print screen, scroll lock and pause break button) omnipoint switches. Why do you need them for your arrow keys? Who plays using arrow keys in almost 2023, 99.99999999% of people use them only with youtube. I am even glad they put them only in the 60% area, because the price would be even higher.
This, or Logi G915 TKL, or Logi G715, or Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro TKL?
250$ !!! I could almost get geon frog tkl with that😂
That’s what I’m saying lol
That’s why you don’t go wireless💀🤡
1-) You're busy talking about RGB and looks when it's performance gaming.
2-) It's better. Compare wired to previous wired.
tbh from you i can keep up with like quieter brands and I appreciate your channel a lot. im praying if the Viper Mini wireless comes out I can see your review cause you got no BS.
You complain about missing omnipoint whatever, but you dont explain what they are and why are they better... think about the fact that not everyone knows the subject in detail
I'll be keeping my OG apex pro then. Thank you.
basically just buy the older version!
Thanks for keeping it real and not being a sellout like most reviewers are :-)
Never lol, appreciate it my man
@@TooMuchTech hi please do recommend the best gaming kb
Been waiting for this review. I recently bought the wired version, but had to return it due to the shift keys feeling as if they were rubbing against something, especially the left one. I exchanged it for another one, but haven't even opened the box, because I wanted to hear your opinion of the board. The board does feel lighter and cheaper than I thought it would. But not being a kb enthusiast, it sounded much better, and the keys feel much smoother, than the Corsair K70 tkl I use.
I'm also considering the Wooting 60he instead, though I'm wary of having to pay full price up front, but having to wait a couple of months (barring unforseen setbacks) to receive the board.
But yeah, this thing's going back to Best Buy tomorrow. 😄
I couldn’t agree more lol, hopefully once the wooting catches up with demand, it’ll be in stock
0:34 you mean usb c for wireless version right? Not the wired version
I just bought the Apex 9 for about 175$, because I thought that the Apex Pro was too expensive. The wired version goes for around 240 dollars (my country doesn't use dollars, hence the oddly specific numbers). Was that a bad purchase? I haven't recieved it yet so I can still refund it. I am not a professional gamer and barely play shooters.
Edit: appearently it is quite a lot more expensive where I live, for some reason.
can someone tell me what is the differences between the 2023 version and the older one? (2019 I think it was)
The Apex Pro TKL 2023 features our Omnipoint 2.0 adjustable switches with 11x quicker response and 10x swifter actuation!
It has a wider range of Adjustable Actuation points of 0.2-3.8 mm compared to the previous 0.4mm to 3.6mm.
This keyboard also features Double actuation, meaning you can program two actions to a single key, depending on how you press it.
Along with Quantum 2.0 Dual Wireless connection, so you can connect to devices either by ultra-fast 2.4GHz connection or Bluetooth 5.0 (available for wireless model only).
There is no longer the Illumination tab in Engine when you click on your device, instead there is a blue bar at the top of the window when you click on your keyboard in Engine. For more information on how to adjust the illumination on your keyboard go HERE.
I'm sorry but the sound on the Apex Pro TKL 2023 sounds really good still. Even if it's different it still sounds creamy.
Thanks for this review.
I picked up an Arctis Nova 7X headset and was looking to unify some hardware with a new keyboard and its interesting to see Steelseries still isn't giving customers what they want even though the keyboard space is getting so competitive. Guess I am skipping Steelseries for another 5 years or more, again.
@Too Much Tech. You answered your own question. The reason why those "competitive" oriented switches ( magnetic / rapid trigger ) are not present on the entirety of the keyboard is two-fold. 1 ) they are not needed and 2 ) the cost savings of not having to populate the keyboard with additional keys is passed on to the consumer. I just picked the 2023 TKL wired version up for $125 when it was on sale very briefly not long ago. BTW, more manufactures will be introducing magnetic switch based keyboards in 2024. A few videos were recently shared with me and can you say "gasket magnetic thocky volume knob" 3 x real fast? LOL. Good things coming.
Would still like it on my esc so I can max out the actuation distance and the arrows
1:35 Whaaaat? You'd think they'd at least put them on the arrow keys too, but I get why SteelSeries would do that. Would OmniPoint switches be useful on keys like PgUp and PgDown? Probably not right? 🤔
i completely agree with u, i feel like the whooting is far worth imo
i got one and i think its worth the overprice as it looks and feels top drawer. this is my 4th keyboard and i know im going to keep collecting. im an illustrator and photographer and its part of my combination art and computer station. its fun and gorgeous and i dig the little oled screen.
getting the older one now because there is a massive sale on it and I would love a USB passthrough to connect my keyboard/mouse pad. I am replacing my Apex M800 as the keycaps are desintegrating.
How much did you get it for
@@arya9509 I bought it for $240 AUD on Amazon during black Friday
the wired cost 240 usd here in Denmark. but im happy with mine, i opgrade it from apex 7 tkl. dont care abut sound, all gamers use headset anyway. but i think the sound is different her 10 month later, mine is quiet, or just put O ring in it if youy have ocd. After 14 days, most people dont care abut design, sound, and all that, its all abaut how it feels in a game in the end.
Yes, it's pretty much all about performance, ergonomics and build quality. Yeah, I get it, if you're spending that much money you want something that looks dapper but after a couple of days it doesn't really matter. And it's not like a Mac that was really designed by top people.
How big is the input lag when playing with wireless keyboards instead of wired versions?
Like is it noticable?
no
2 ms wired 3.2 ms wireless
I have both the OG pro tlk feels and better looks better. Nice keyboard to have on desk. The new switches are more responsive. So from gaming POV 2023 is better but everything else OG is nicer
I dont mind that there not all OmniPoints casue you dont use those keybinds in game at all. I have a Wired Apex pro tkl from 2019 and im looking to upgrade and in all the games i have played i havnt used a single one of those switches
man completely bashed SteelSeries. And a bunch of "IMO" comments. No diving into what is good for your needs or for you just bashed the new iteration. Wont be back for future reviews lol not sure how it was a review at all.
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Bought this keyboard for 150 euro pretty good deal because I didn’t liked the apex pro mini. So this was my best option anyway
I think the omipoint switshes is nice its very smoth, but thats the only reson to get the keyboard, dealbrekers is whey are soldred, and the keyboard is to flimsy and cheap build bout the old and whis new one. i was considerd the old version a while,,but think i buy a keychron K8 pro or Q3 insded..
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Can someone pls awnser, now that u can't change your lighting on the screen can u change it on your laptop than unconnected it and connect it to your Xbox will it still have the same lighting?
If you save it as a preset
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Very bad review, to picky. There’s obviously going to be corners cut and things not how you might want but it’s all down to them making more money!
now the original tkl has a firmware update that allows for the new 0.2 actuation and the multiple actions thing per key 😑
Isn't that good ?
@@Viggen37 yeah i have the original and am happy but it kinda sucks for the people who upgraded for the new switches only to get scammed. good thing i didn't upgrade though :)
@@kwantis1 Your statement is very true
Where do I do this update ? I can update the 2019 tkl to 0.2mm ur saying ?
@@xtulliox it’s a firmware update in the steel series gg app
i also can’t believe anyone on this planet actually pays more than 100 for a KEYBOARD
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I'm new to the pc gaming so ima just read comments and eat popcorn but I'm definitely not ready to spend 200 on a keyboard
COULDNT agree more with the reviewer. quality and design is a downgrade, should also put omnis on whole kb not just 60% area. also the software needs refinement, the rgb stuff aint so customisable as the previous version of apex pro. and FML in first 30 minutes of use, the lil oled screen on the kb got a white vertical line on screen. heyo steelseries pls recheck your quality checks, dont be like razer...
Dang they got the OLED screens bad too? Down bad
@@TooMuchTech from what i noticed over a small search on the internet the oled screen was a ''weak'' point since first apex pro. and this bs carried over to the 2023 model.
Update one year later.. rgb stuff is super customisable and software is fixed. Many firmware and software updates made as it should be from day 1.
Do you think is woth to buy the Apex PRO 2023?
@@guilhermegms7557 in my opinion previous model feels a lil bit more sturdy.. more quality and design also better... not by huge margin... but new one has better keycaps if u plan to keep the stock... switches are same... cable is detachable compared to the fixed one previous version had. Which was very thick and uncomfortable. Either way u go they are good keyboards... hands down better than trash kbs from razer... i recommend them... to be honest iam fanboy of steelseries when it comes to keyboards... if new one comes.. ill definately buy...other option is the wooting one... just saying. If u feel comfortable giving 200plus euros for keyboard.. then go for it.
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I got that keyboard and i totaly agree with your review. Whatcher 2-3 more reviews, but yours is absoulte honest and accurate. Its realy great keyboard, but that softwere ... the only way to fix softwere is to not instal it, or uninstal it. I was using Razer keyboard before and i have to say, that i willing to pay razer 50 dolars, just to use thayre softwere on steelseries keyboard.
@Elysian No they didn't? Not on mine at least, I just have the brightness option. And the rbg just looks worse than the last apex pro aswell.
Is this new 2023 keyboard faster than the 2019 apex pro?
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The wooting is definitely better but i have to wait months to get it...
And it's waaay more expensive
@@cehaem2 no its not i have both the wooting was £165 for the 60he the steelseries was £159 both were bought new
$250usd and you don't even get a full set of switches.. yeah. Thats a instant no buy for me.
What a ripoff
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I bought the old 2019 tkl version for 139 dollars, in my country the new 2023 costs around 220. So getting the old one was good? Best for value?
Are you happy with the 2019 tkl version bro
@@onuridvan crazy happy bro just get it you won't notice the difference with the new one and for these that do it's just placebo lol if you're good already it doesn't matter
@@Anonymous-ov8vr thank you so much bro
@@onuridvan no worries bro
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I bought one on release day, nope sent it back third day because of the battery life was terrible and basically had to keep it plugged in, also it felt cheap. That day is when I unsubbed from certain hype tech guys. Thanks for being honest.
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so the keyboard suks.. it resets the actuation time to 1.8 after every sleep/unsleep cycle to 1.8 you can see it on oled screen in keyboard or software if using onboard profile
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I have the old apex full keyboard I’ve always used it on ps4 and 5. It works great for my first keyboard I didn’t realize how good it was when I bought it
i mean i hear what ur saying but this made me cringe bad
what exactly made you cringe lmao?😂
Wtf is the Wooding keyboard and why is there no link to it in the video description? I can't found a keyboard with the name wooding.
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Ive always randomly found your videos over the years, thank you for your honesty with your reviews! Its a very rare trait to have🎉
I was looking at purchasing this keyboard because my old Apex Pro is starting to have issues but knowing that this has two types of switches is a huge downside. And the fact that it's still mostly plastic for about $200 is so disgraceful. I think I'll move away from SteelSeries now completely.
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If your that ad about the switches switch them your self!
About the switches, no one uses arrow keys in modern day gaming (small percentage sure) again same with function keys, they are so high up and hardly used except mainly for mmos and such again small percentage so I am ffine having the main keyboard having only omnipoint switches
On amazon they lowered the Price to $189
Nice review! But it looks more like an opinion on what prices Steelseries should charge for their different models and how much they should be differentiated. Which leaves me a bit confused - one complain is that a lower priced model has inferior RGB (not sure why it is part of this review), another is that this high priced model looks much like a lower priced model. So, not sure if they should differentiate less on more.
I bought the Apex pro Tkl for 120 dollars, no joke. It was on Black friday so why not.
My friend gave me his 2 keyboards and his pc one of the keyboard was a razer mini purple switch and an apex pro tkl
After using the keyboard for six months, whenever I increase the sensitivity to
Interesting review, thanks so much for your insight😁. I felt that the steel series Apex 7 or Apex pro were my choices for a new keyboard. But after doing some research about faulty components and now that the pro isn't what it seems. Funny how theres a really good sale on Steel series keyboards in my area. I may have to rethink, any other keyboards that you would recommend? Or is the Steelseries Apex 7 still alright?
Are the key caps the same as the apex pro on the older version
No
Nice video! I prefer the tenkeyless layout more, do you think that the wooting is that much better that i should go for that?
wooting is wireless and another youtuber showed the difference in actuation is literally 5ms between this steelseries and woot, so ymmv
@@goofsaddggkle7351it’s not 5ms difference, it’s less then a ms
take it apart and mod it for sound.
you are buying a case, switches and keycaps.
great review man. i been looking to replace my keyboard from 5 years thats starting to die/keys get stuck in sofware not hardware and yea it been a good run but i need a reccomendation from someone with knowledge about them, i dont know if a 65% or a 100% make a difference or with one to get
What kind of board are you looking for specifically? Hit me up on twitter, shoot me a DM @TechKile
@@TooMuchTech i saw another review you had on the tkl and went with that one, btw yt just gived me the notification just now
Steelseries Apex Pro TKL Wireless 2022, in the description you put the link for the mini on this one
I got this one after two years on the OG Apex Pro wanting a keyboard with a smaller form factor and I'm just not impressed.
I found mine at 10$ at a resale shop
It's basically the same thing, except -- it's just price raised due to inflation.
That’s what they would like you to think yes🙃