IBC Rainwater Harvesting System Update #1
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2013
- Update #1 on DIY IBC rainwater harvesting system. There were a number a changes including expanded the system from 550 gallons to 1100 gallons, increased down spout from 2'' to 3'', installing proper adapters, replaced bricks with center blocks, and added unions to easily remove a tank if need be. I also share a few other small fixes that I had to figure out as I went; I hope they help you on your system! I will have more updates soon, as well as other helpful videos for rainwater harvesting.
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Thank you Trenton. I've been watching and reading about this topic forever and you are the only one who goes into this great detail and solved several of my problems. You've SAVED ME hours and $$$! Thank you Thank you!
Awesome system Trenton...well planned and implemented. You're definitely ready if the grid ever gets knocked out and the SHTF.
That looks great ......I just installed a small rain gutter in Phx AZ ......I was surprised to see that I could collect 100 gallons of rain water off of a 1/4 in of rain .....
Awesome job brother. I've built above ground gardens. I feel i could use a system like this in order to feed the plants during dry seasons. Once again. Good job!
this will be my project of this summer, thanks for the push!
I like that you have more than 1 first flush pipes
Thanks for all the info on rainwater collection.
Great set up! I like the 3 way flush system.
Going in several years of operation of my similar system, and it has been very good. The plastic tank even survived a freeze incident because I pushed the limit too far - lucky.
Great to hear!
Excellent video, Thank you for your time and effort.
Really nice and professional job mate.
Great Job Ed!!!
Blake, I used gutter guard to block leaves and solids from entering the gutter system. I show a quick view of it on this video and will make a video over all the filtration. I have a total of 3 filtration stages…1st is the gutter guard, then the first flush diverter, and last I have a double lined panty hose filter to catch any remaining debris. I also have plans to shield the tanks, my plan was to build a cover that will match my fence. Basically a small fence around it and then a removable top.
Wow, that is awesome.
Great video very helpful.
Thank you for your video. Very thorough
+ThePanamanianMike 👍
Great video
nice system to set it up. keep it up
Ok I see you plastic wrapped them totes... The plastic will break down by the sun light. What we use is a Truck bed liner paint. It really is thick, durable and UV long lasting.
That's smart. Good job
very interesting
Very interesting and creative
Thank you:)
magnificent feat of backyard engineering
Lookin at doing this with about 1 to 3 dozen totes. Depending on space. Gobna double stack them as well. Using it for emergency drinking water, drought garden water and emergency fire protection for the fire pump
+KosukiFire you may want to look into the large black or green water tanks. For as much water as you will be storing this route may be much easier. They make tanks as large as 10,000 gallons. Here in Houston a 3,000 gallon tank retails for about $1300-1400.
KosukiFire Might want to look into an underground cistern system?
Very good
put sand in your bottle about 1/3 full and seal the cap. this will make the water move up straighter in the first flush
I am building a system like this with two tanks to supply water for my chickens and I started filling my tanks with water before I had everything set up only to find that there is leak at the valve where the pin goes through the gate and into the bottom of the spout. I don't know if I'm explaining this clearly enough for anyone to help but any suggestions are welcome.
Trenton,
You mentioned on your interview with ITRH to avoid the 330 gallon and to go with the 275 gallon. I was curious why you advised this.
Thank you!
They are Not as common, harder to find parts.
As to whom the water in CO belongs to, I believe it is big farming down the line. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The blocks should be setup on end. but good job.
that was the first thing I noticed....
PastorDowell why cinder blocks on end? Seems less stable than stacked one below ground level
Whats the problem with it
That is how CMUs (concrete masonry unit) are designed to be installed. The nice face is what you see when building a wall so he has them oriented in the least structurally sound direction.
Great vid!! you mention aquaponics near the end. Do you use rain water for that? If so, do you have issues with low pH effecting fish and plant health? Thanks!
+Mike D I made this system specifically for my aquaponics system. Ph is 6.8, didn't effect fish at all.
How do you install filters in the gutter system or the tank to prevent solids from building up? Also did you consider painting them and why not? My lawn is pretty visible where mine will go and so trying to think of a way to avoid seeing black garbage bag color when neighbors and cars drive by.
Blake Whitney I am not sure how I did not see this comment until now. I use gutter guard on part of the house where leafs could possibly enter. Every so often I also spray the gutters clean with the garden hose. Paint is a great ideal, on my updated videos you can see them painted. Im in luck that I have a fence between the road and my tanks, other than the fence I have not experimented with any other covers for the tanks.
how did you vent tank's thanks for the ideas
Here ya go!
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You mentioned using the two new IBCs for your toilets. I've always wondered, if you discontinue city water service, will your toilet still work if you flush them with your own water? Or is the city wise to that and block the sewer line somehow? Have you tried it?
I think it really depends on a case by case scenario... I've had water shut off on a residence and everything get flushed off through all the piping around the house just fine.
I'm new to this stuff but any worries about settlement on your house? With over 4 tons of water right next to the foundation, I wonder if that would cause foundation trouble?
Chris: Good question, If your worry is that the tanks will settle and lean onto the brick or house foundation I do not anticipate this to be a problem. I have placed the tanks a few inches away from the wall where I can monitor if there was ever any problem. If there was I could easily remove the tanks and sturdy up the tanks foundation. Does this answer your question?
trenton kaminski Good point. I guess if it's not connected to the house, then there wouldn't be any settling OF the house would there? I have a spot that's perfect for my IBC barrels to be placed, but I'm worried the actual house will settle in that location..... thought?
I would place the tanks away from the structure by a few inches, if the house does settle then you will see this happen slowly over time and can reset your tanks to the appropriate location.
Chris Mccollum I absolutely agree, and your weight estimate is correct. That is a lot of pressure on a basement wall which as they may typically be built, should probably fail anyway (no cores filled as the Masonry Institute (?) cautions). If doing one tank, at least put it at a corner - not at the worst place (in the middle) if possible. Also there is, I believe, an approximate 45 degree pressure line the soil gives; anything below the line sees the pressure, not above. Therefore, you can judge better distance from a wall. (This is where footer drains should not lie if this is taken into account.). If this is slab-on-grade, fine, but he doesn't have any room and certainly doesn't want to hear this news. Flooded soil alone WILL break walls, this is why I had to get my water diversion under control -the wall did crack. When people start getting into bigger installations, the limits are approached.
Do you have to vent this type of system? I have having trouble understanding, it seems sometimes venting is required and other times it is not. I am putting plans together for a community garden. I am bottom filling 3 IBC totes very similar to the system you have. I was under the impression I needed to vent each barrel to allow room for air to escape but I do not see that you have venting on your. Could you help me understand this please??
Caps are loose to allow venting.
Do you get freezing temps? I live in new England where we get some cold winters well below freezing for many days even weeks at a time. would this concept still work?
Maybe, with the freezing temps you may need to bury a tank.
If I might inquire about the issue of certain plastics not being used for storage of anything involving human consumption [and naturally other life]. Take it your storage for such water either in these totes or any other collection media is free of such concerns?
+Steven DeRosa All totes and storage containers I use are approved by the FDA for human consumption.
Blake what, if any, are the dangers related to virus's. I think your system is amazing and I appreciate you sharing your information. I only ask about virus's because I saw a video from a vendor that sells tank ceramic filters (like Berkey) and he indicated that no ceramic system could filter virus. His advice was to boil water to make it potable? No idea if this is true, hence my question. You never indicated that you were drinking this water, so I was not sure. Thanks again and great job on your project.
There is a uv light for any viruses.
+Bkip Me I do use it for drinking but I also have a uv light for viruses.
those tanks fill from the bottom?how do you overcome the gravity from of the water that builds in the tank to fill them
They fill from the top
What is the water temperature coming out of the tanks in the summertime?
Not sure...maybe in the 80's
Where do you purchase the IBC Rainwater Harvesting totes Trenton?
Hi Nanine Locke I purchased ours from craigslist. You should be able to find a used food grade tote for around $100
I have 2 330 gallon IBC that I am hooking up to a drip irrigation system but have to use a pump because of gravity issues with the raised garden beds. The problem I have is when the pump turns off I have a siphoning issue. The water wants to continue to flow. Does anyone know of a way I can put something in line to stop this?
Nathan Hadler without seeing it, it is hard to say exactly what could be wrong. But it may be as simple as raising your pump up a little or placing a check valve some where. Like I said it's hard to say without seeing it.
I saw someone use a clamp under cap to tighten instead of creating gasket. Seems easier?
By all means if it looks easier I would go with that.
How did you move the filled containers to the back?
+talkdtwo they were empty when I moved them.
IBC Totes don't you ever use screw on... You will now have a super tough time to take it apart when needed. Use 2" Banjo couplers instead they do work a lot better, once you start to use them you will love it.
Google tote containers, go to a place that sells them and has accessories, and you'll find that they have lids that have a threaded hole for pvc pipe in them. Then I would suggest you use that "t" fitting you have on the first container, and use it on top of all your containers for filling, and the last one in line would have the overflow. That both vents and fills your containers at the same time. Also, your first flush system, if you took the amount of water it holds and went up on the roof, would if clear all the debris off the roof, and carry it down and out the gutter?
Does this system generate enough pressure to run some drip irrigation lines?
Yes and easily with the pressure tank now
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junk can clog that hose bib. down is where the junk would accrue. recommend switching it back around. nice system though.
What do you add to your water to keep it fresher and stay algae free?
Block the sunlight and it will not grow algae. That is all I do.
Great, thank!!!
Did you pull the tanks from cage and wrap them in plastic? Never saw totes wrapped in plastic before. I always wondered if I would have to cover them somehow.
Yes exactly what I did.
How is the black sheeting holding up since you’ve wrapped your tanks? Any Rips or tears from Harvey?
Where is a good place to get a used tote? I don't want chemicals.
How'd that black plastic work out against the UV?
+Joshua Reynolds last a few years then starts falling apart. I have covers now.
Hey dude, how did you stop a vacuum in the 2nd and 3rd tank?
Not sure what you mean. Are you wondering how it vents?
Trenton Kaminski yeah exactly. 😉
i would like to do your entire set up could you direct me where to start
I would start by watching step 1
for a gasket on your fill tube, use a toilet wax seal. they are 3" and the wax will allow for several seals if you need to remove it. They can be bought in 1" thick and 2" they are also easy to cut down if you need less than an inch, or simply synch it down and the wax will squeeze out of the sides.
why are the blocks on there sides? all the strength in cinder blocks is top to bottom.
Thank you!
What are the 3 drop pipes for?
First flush dirverter
try a cool aid jar
Do you have a French drain around the house?
I don't thin so.
Good luck.👍
Just don't let your local government know, they'll arrest you for it. But nice system though I would like to have one like that.
Im near Houston, Texas. To my advantage Texas has rainwater harvesting laws in place that protect your right to collect rainwater.
Trenton Kaminski I just think it's crazy that in some places it is illegal to collect rain water.
Trenton Kaminski Yes Texas does! As a matter of fact, since we're in a part of the nation that is routinely in drought conditions, the State of Texas encourages the harvesting of rainwater to ease the use of precious water in our lakes and reservoirs. In certain situations, the purchase of materials that will be used for harvesting rainwater here in Texas, are tax free...
where do you get the totes? who has $200.00 for 1 tote. might aswell just use the city water.
Perspective
Here is a 900 gallon home water collection system I built this summer: kharkovski.blogspot.com/2014/07/rain-water-collection-system.html - perhaps other people can use this to build theirs in under $300. I have not figured out the filtering system yet
Thank you Roman Kharkovski
Dude... the direction of your fittings on your lower pipe doesn't matter... either direction won't change flow or pressure... basic plumbing. If the water came out at 100 mph, maybe but you have a hose for outflow.
+George Adams I have to disagree with you. Of course the water would flow and thy system would work if the fitting were turned the opposite direction. To build correctly you would want to have the adapters installed like the video. In this case it is a fairly simple system and doesn't make that much of a difference. In more complex builds it is important to install in the direction of your water flow. If water flows both ways you can install a T that does not have a specific flow direction.
These plumbing drain fittings are designed for maximum flow... the flow in the system you have barely flows and is way oversized for the purpose. Its like comparing a flash flood to taking a pee... LOL! Otherwise it looks great!
I got fined for holding rain water. So I could filter it and drink it myself. Police said no. Here is a ticket for breaking the law. As I have no water permit. 1,500 $ the next day three or four officers I was told Stoll the whole thing. Wow. Rainwater is the best to drink, just have to have a water permit ,I guess.
Good luck. !!
Ed2016 Boomer Which state do you live in?
+Ed2016 Boomer where the hell do you live. if this is the kind of local gov. you need to get out now. if shtf..it will get way worse.
Ed2016 Boomer Put it undergrd in a cistern ,hide it!
Thank you for the videos! You've inspired me to do my own setup, which is not as good as yours but it's a work in progress that I will adjust over time. Here's my video: ruclips.net/video/Bi4T015fi2k/видео.html
Thanks again!
+Guy With Blue Glasses 👍
Excellent series, but poor instruction. A detailed exact named parts list would help, links to those parts even better (but not necessary).
Some but not all videos have links to parts. Like step 2, regarding adapters, there are links to the adapters.
The water supply end of this system is WAY! over sized. Using a big pipe does not equal lots of water. Most houses have a 3/4 inch supply line from the water meter to the house. I am willing to bet that his house was built with 3/4 inch pipes. It looks to me like he is using a 2 inch pipe on the supply end of the system. This is a waste. I suggest using one inch flexible pex pipe to tie the tanks to the house. Truth is that if the house is plumbed with 3/4 inch pipes that is all that you would need from the tanks. Larger pipes are not going to give you more water. In some areas houses are plumbed with 1/2 inch pipe. If so you could simply use garden hose fittings to connect to the house. (On the other hand, you would use 2 inch pipes if you wanted to supply four houses at the same time.) Also stacking one tank over the other is not going to give you much pressure at all. You would need to stack tanks 100 feet in the air to equal normal house pressure. Instead Home Depot sells a 110 volt shallow well pump with a pressure sensor. Whenever water is being used in the house it will automatically turn on and turn off when there is no demand for water.
Thanks for watching Robert Erickson this video only covers rainwater harvesting and not filtering and purifying water to enter the home. This video may interest you, ruclips.net/video/YpKayMx-edQ/видео.html
The 3 inch pipe is to collect rainwater off the roof not to send water to the home, with over 1250 sq feet of roof area 1 inch or rain will produce over 700 gallon of water. Here in Houston an inch of rain can fall in 20 minutes, your going to need a large pipe to harvest all of the water in that amount of time.
You're goofy!!
Just buy a cistern and burry it.